Oh, and I think that this could be a solution to your problem. Write your driver, compile it as a binary with your compiler that allows the use of it's libraries with proprietary products. Then write some interfacing code that probably has to be compiled with the kernel and makes things loadable as a module. Make the interfacing code free (GPL). The binary part with your valuable (?) driver code doesn't contain any GPL code for sure and interoperability with the kernel can be maintained by modifying the code layer inbetween the two.
Cisco does this with their VPN-Client. You get a tarball with some source code for interfacing with the kernel and a binary part. You have to have your kernel sources installed in order to compile the whole thing as a module. If you then load the module you get a warning about the kernel being "tainted", meaning that there's some software with a different license.
If you want to go to google.com choose www.google.com/en from the bottom of your local google and you won't get redirected. The redirection is meant as a help, because it gives you the possibility to restrict your search with one click to your country or to your language. This isn't censorship.
Nice trolling. You've omitted my "probably". It's not my theory.
My point is, that you might be as wrong as you see the others. You simply won't be able to proof anything anyhow without a time-machine that can visit different "futures/pasts/presents".
*Cough* If you click on the link on google.at on the link google.com you can go to google.com directly. But google.com normally returns you to your local google because it has settings like "Results from Austria only" and the like.
Using similar methods, the Club of Rome predicted in the early 1970s that the world would run out of oil by 1992. They and others also predicted that the West would be hopelessly overpopulated by... right around now.
Probably we would have run out of oil and would be overpopulated (aren't we?) by now without the warning voices back in the 1970s. You won't be able to look at the world without the influence of these predictions. At least here in Europe cars use much less fuel than back in the seventies due to legislations passed after these predictions. And people have put a lot of energy in finding new sources of oil. Probably more time and money than without people warning of shortages. In the end these researchers were just succesful in preventing what they have predicted, weren't they?
I don't want an email program, a news reader, an HTML editor, a chat program or an IM client with my browser.
MailNews, Composer, the IRC-client, Debugger and Inspector are modules which you can install after installing only the browser. They're xpis. Just download the bare installer (mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz or the equivalent, 256 KB as of today) and choose to install *only* the browser. This will simply download the xpi for the browser. If you want to browse secure sites, install the personal security manager along with it.
Phoenix is more a new version of just the browser part regarding the customizeability of the UI and a few rewritten features.
Copyright was designed to give the creators of some kind of intellectual property a reasonable amount of time to profit from their creation (...)
No, the copyright (America and GB) and the "droit d'auteur" (continental Europe) were in the beginning designed to give the state control over the published material and to build up monopolies for profit. After the french and american revolution the laws were explicitly changed to the benefit of the whole society. The society benefits if there is a lot of published work. The privileges given to the authors were only meant to ensure that there is someone who does publish. If they in the end profit or go bankrupt isn't of interest to the public as long as people still publish. The goal is to maximize the overall profit for the public and never ever for the author or the rights industry. Naturally the authors can profit from this system, but that's not it's aim.
I would be very interested in your decisions regarding all the other parts of your open source development environment. Could you give us a summary of the tools you plan to use?
I'd be happy to help you with the Requirements Management System. Unfortunetaly all I've ever used for this are plain text files...
When reading "PDA" I've thought about what a PDA would have to be able to do for me. Well, an SSH client would be enough. I could read an write mails on my server, manage my text-based calendar and administer my server. But why a PDA with SSH and a cellular phone to transmit the data? Why not just a cellular phone? They can handle mail, pictures, online-games already. SSH should be relatively trivial to add. Does anyone know of such a thing?
Yes, please correct my spelling and grammar mistakes, I'd like to improve my English.
A week ago I've downloaded the 1.1 mozilla rpm from SuSE's ftp-server. It came with enigmail included as well. So this seems to get a standard part of more distros. This is a good thing.
Fuel cells from Sulzer Hexis are being deployed in households now:
Today Sulzer Hexis stands at the threshold from a research and development team to a production and distribution company. At the end of 2001 a three-year international field test was successfully completed. The production and commissioning phase of a pre-series of fuel cell systems HXS 1000 PREMIERE started in December 2001. This natural gas fuelled system covers the entire heat requirements as well as the basic electricity needs of a single-family home (operating parallel to the grid). The systems obtained CE certification in December 2001 and the first four units were already delivered in the same year. These are being tested within the framework of a pre-series phase lasting approximately three years in co-operation with energy utilities and installers, mainly in Switzerland, Germany and Austria.Sulzer Hexis
I don't believe that click-wrap is necessary for the GPL except probably for the warranty part:
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, (...).
That a product is free doesn't mean that it's allowed to cause dataloss or the like. You could be liable for damages if the license wasn't explicitly accepted by the user. Well, you even could be liable with her/his agreement as different countries have very different rules on product liability.
Yes, please comment on my spelling and writing style, I'd like to get better...
Well, there's nothing to compile, it's only a straitforward script. Read the README file for info on what you need.
Oh, well, here is the list from the README:
- An rpm based Linux system
- Graphviz (http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/)
- psutils
- Ghostscript (http://gnu-gs.sourceforge.net/)
- gawk
- Python
Strange, I get a correct looking rpmgraph.dot file when running the programm but neato refuses to make a ps-file:
warning, language ps2 not recognized
If I change ps2 to ps in the Makefile, all I get is a zero byte ps-file. Well, there's probably something missing on my system, I should have a look at the rpmgraph. Oh, wait...
Yes, Taco is complaining about the spam he receives. And that's his right. Even if he doesn't have to pay for it on a per minute basis he'll still have to pay for the bandwidth in the end somehow. Be it because his provider has higher costs or his employer has to pay for it. And you have to be an "abject moron" because you obviously didn't read for example my reply. It tells you why it is bad to simply throw away spam the way Spamassassin does.
There are several reasons why this isn't a solution:
(1) It doesn't get rid of spam, it simply trashes it, you still have to give away your (and all your downstream providers) bandwidth for it.
(2) And no, it won't discourage spammers because they'll sell less. You as a uber-geek wouldn't buy anything advertised via spam anyway.
(3) It leaves the non-geeks out in the spam-rain. Some of them will even buy things advertised via spam. (Yes, there are desperate people who do want to get out of depth, loose weight or get laid and be it for selling their soul, some of them do fall for that spam-crap)
(4) It'll make you ignorant of the actual dimension of the problem. Once you don't see it anymore, after a few days you'll forget to look at the statistics you get from your spam-incinerator.
Hm, I'm sure there were at least five things I wanted to point out. Have to do a memcheck.
Yes, please correct my spelling and comment on my style. It's some time ago an English teacher has done that.
Ok, I correct myself, there seems to be active and passive imaging... I'd say you'd have to be careful with these Rays as they could warm you up quite a bit...
These waves get emitted by the objects themselves. Contrary to X-Rays you don't need a "light" source to image things. So it's harmless, yes. I mean, they want to watch stars with that thingy too. That would take it's time to send a signal there first and then receiving it's reflection...
I'm giving away CDs with the latest stable Mozilla and OpenOffice versions away for quite some time now. I'm always including the Linux and the Windows version and the appropriate spellchecker. This works quite well. My girlfriends parents have a new PC with XP and Word preinstalled. They're using OpenOffice now for spreadsheets and drawings. They still use Netscape 6.2 though.
Be careful to choose the right moment to convince them and take the time helping them installing things. Give a short introduction and they'll find out the rest themselves. In a few years they'll be doing the same with others... OSS takes it's time, the source is ours, it won't run away.
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Oh, and I think that this could be a solution to your problem. Write your driver, compile it as a binary with your compiler that allows the use of it's libraries with proprietary products. Then write some interfacing code that probably has to be compiled with the kernel and makes things loadable as a module. Make the interfacing code free (GPL). The binary part with your valuable (?) driver code doesn't contain any GPL code for sure and interoperability with the kernel can be maintained by modifying the code layer inbetween the two.
...as long as they're loadable modules...
Cisco does this with their VPN-Client. You get a tarball with some source code for interfacing with the kernel and a binary part. You have to have your kernel sources installed in order to compile the whole thing as a module. If you then load the module you get a warning about the kernel being "tainted", meaning that there's some software with a different license.
If you want to go to google.com choose www.google.com/en from the bottom of your local google and you won't get redirected. The redirection is meant as a help, because it gives you the possibility to restrict your search with one click to your country or to your language. This isn't censorship.
Nice trolling. You've omitted my "probably". It's not my theory. My point is, that you might be as wrong as you see the others. You simply won't be able to proof anything anyhow without a time-machine that can visit different "futures/pasts/presents".
*Cough* If you click on the link on google.at on the link google.com you can go to google.com directly. But google.com normally returns you to your local google because it has settings like "Results from Austria only" and the like.
Using similar methods, the Club of Rome predicted in the early 1970s that the world would run out of oil by 1992. They and others also predicted that the West would be hopelessly overpopulated by... right around now.
Probably we would have run out of oil and would be overpopulated (aren't we?) by now without the warning voices back in the 1970s. You won't be able to look at the world without the influence of these predictions. At least here in Europe cars use much less fuel than back in the seventies due to legislations passed after these predictions. And people have put a lot of energy in finding new sources of oil. Probably more time and money than without people warning of shortages. In the end these researchers were just succesful in preventing what they have predicted, weren't they?
I don't want an email program, a news reader, an HTML editor, a chat program or an IM client with my browser.
MailNews, Composer, the IRC-client, Debugger and Inspector are modules which you can install after installing only the browser. They're xpis. Just download the bare installer (mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz or the equivalent, 256 KB as of today) and choose to install *only* the browser. This will simply download the xpi for the browser. If you want to browse secure sites, install the personal security manager along with it.
Phoenix is more a new version of just the browser part regarding the customizeability of the UI and a few rewritten features.
No, the copyright (America and GB) and the "droit d'auteur" (continental Europe) were in the beginning designed to give the state control over the published material and to build up monopolies for profit. After the french and american revolution the laws were explicitly changed to the benefit of the whole society. The society benefits if there is a lot of published work. The privileges given to the authors were only meant to ensure that there is someone who does publish. If they in the end profit or go bankrupt isn't of interest to the public as long as people still publish.
The goal is to maximize the overall profit for the public and never ever for the author or the rights industry. Naturally the authors can profit from this system, but that's not it's aim.
Dear scphantm
I would be very interested in your decisions regarding all the other parts of your open source development environment. Could you give us a summary of the tools you plan to use?
I'd be happy to help you with the Requirements Management System. Unfortunetaly all I've ever used for this are plain text files...
Well, substituting vowels isn't a big problem regarding understandability. To say it with Steven Pinker: YXX CXN RXXD WXRDS WXTHXXT VXWXELS.
Well, I do have a TI-85 and a serial connector cable. But I can't find an SSH client for it and the keyboard probably wouldn't be that comfortable...
When reading "PDA" I've thought about what a PDA would have to be able to do for me. Well, an SSH client would be enough. I could read an write mails on my server, manage my text-based calendar and administer my server. But why a PDA with SSH and a cellular phone to transmit the data? Why not just a cellular phone? They can handle mail, pictures, online-games already. SSH should be relatively trivial to add. Does anyone know of such a thing?
Yes, please correct my spelling and grammar mistakes, I'd like to improve my English.
A week ago I've downloaded the 1.1 mozilla rpm from SuSE's ftp-server. It came with enigmail included as well. So this seems to get a standard part of more distros. This is a good thing.
Fuel cells from Sulzer Hexis are being deployed in households now: Today Sulzer Hexis stands at the threshold from a research and development team to a production and distribution company. At the end of 2001 a three-year international field test was successfully completed. The production and commissioning phase of a pre-series of fuel cell systems HXS 1000 PREMIERE started in December 2001. This natural gas fuelled system covers the entire heat requirements as well as the basic electricity needs of a single-family home (operating parallel to the grid). The systems obtained CE certification in December 2001 and the first four units were already delivered in the same year. These are being tested within the framework of a pre-series phase lasting approximately three years in co-operation with energy utilities and installers, mainly in Switzerland, Germany and Austria. Sulzer Hexis
I don't believe that click-wrap is necessary for the GPL except probably for the warranty part:
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY
FOR THE PROGRAM, (...).
That a product is free doesn't mean that it's allowed to cause dataloss or the like. You could be liable for damages if the license wasn't explicitly accepted by the user. Well, you even could be liable with her/his agreement as different countries have very different rules on product liability.
Yes, please comment on my spelling and writing style, I'd like to get better...
em, it's *no* RPM, it's a tarball...
Well, there's nothing to compile, it's only a straitforward script. Read the README file for info on what you need. Oh, well, here is the list from the README: - An rpm based Linux system - Graphviz (http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/) - psutils - Ghostscript (http://gnu-gs.sourceforge.net/) - gawk - Python
Strange, I get a correct looking rpmgraph.dot file when running the programm but neato refuses to make a ps-file: warning, language ps2 not recognized If I change ps2 to ps in the Makefile, all I get is a zero byte ps-file. Well, there's probably something missing on my system, I should have a look at the rpmgraph. Oh, wait...
Yes, Taco is complaining about the spam he receives. And that's his right. Even if he doesn't have to pay for it on a per minute basis he'll still have to pay for the bandwidth in the end somehow. Be it because his provider has higher costs or his employer has to pay for it. And you have to be an "abject moron" because you obviously didn't read for example my reply. It tells you why it is bad to simply throw away spam the way Spamassassin does.
(1) It doesn't get rid of spam, it simply trashes it, you still have to give away your (and all your downstream providers) bandwidth for it.
(2) And no, it won't discourage spammers because they'll sell less. You as a uber-geek wouldn't buy anything advertised via spam anyway.
(3) It leaves the non-geeks out in the spam-rain. Some of them will even buy things advertised via spam. (Yes, there are desperate people who do want to get out of depth, loose weight or get laid and be it for selling their soul, some of them do fall for that spam-crap)
(4) It'll make you ignorant of the actual dimension of the problem. Once you don't see it anymore, after a few days you'll forget to look at the statistics you get from your spam-incinerator.
Hm, I'm sure there were at least five things I wanted to point out. Have to do a memcheck.
Yes, please correct my spelling and comment on my style. It's some time ago an English teacher has done that.
Ok, I correct myself, there seems to be active and passive imaging... I'd say you'd have to be careful with these Rays as they could warm you up quite a bit...
These waves get emitted by the objects themselves. Contrary to X-Rays you don't need a "light" source to image things. So it's harmless, yes. I mean, they want to watch stars with that thingy too. That would take it's time to send a signal there first and then receiving it's reflection...
I'm giving away CDs with the latest stable Mozilla and OpenOffice versions away for quite some time now. I'm always including the Linux and the Windows version and the appropriate spellchecker. This works quite well. My girlfriends parents have a new PC with XP and Word preinstalled. They're using OpenOffice now for spreadsheets and drawings. They still use Netscape 6.2 though. Be careful to choose the right moment to convince them and take the time helping them installing things. Give a short introduction and they'll find out the rest themselves. In a few years they'll be doing the same with others... OSS takes it's time, the source is ours, it won't run away.