I've always thought it strange that the kernel is in the portage tree. I understand that certain packages depend on certain kernels, but I usually just download the kernel and install like I always did.
It becomes impossible for ANYBODY to distribute GPL'd code.
Nope. If I wrote some code under the GPL, and then some court says the GPL is invalid, would I sue anyone for using it? Why would any author of GPL code sue anyone for using their code according to the terms? No court can force me to sue anyone. So if someone claims the GPL is "invalid", we just go about our business and ignore them. The GPL is more brilliant than most people realize-- it transcends the lameness of SCO and others. The GPL is freedom, dude.
OTOH, it appears a fraction of a desktop Linux distro is worth $700 whereas a full-fledged Win2K3 server costs just $500. Goes to show how much superior Linux is, compared to Windoze.
O.k., I'm wrong. However, that link you gave seems to indicate that Linux is the sole owner of the mark. Also, the story I remember is that the inventor of the word "Linux" turned the trademark over to Linus. Contrary evidence?
unfortunatly, no matter how we feel about this, they are doing it legally.
Umm, no. They can't distribute other people's copyrighted code, and this includes Linux. If someone inserted unauthorized code in Windows, would the copyright holder get to own Windows???? The only way SCO can distribute Linux is under the GPL.
Or, since he's from Maine, he could send the money to a friend there who could buy the stuff for him and ship it to Hungary. He could give the friend a reasonable tip as well. I guess this won't work if he wants to buy lots and lots of stuff on the web. Maybe try Ebay?
I am attempting to find out the following: what international agreements govern spectrum management;...
Ummm, instead of trying to use strong-arm tactics to get what you want, why not just play nice and try to get the rules changed from within? You do live there. Even better if you're a citizen there.
O.k., since this little hand-sized thing is overpriced, does anyone know if there is a reasonably-priced (200-300 USD) 1U-sized box that just comes with, say, a motherboard and Via C3? I've got spare RAM and quiet hard drives lying around. Just looking for the bare-bones, small, quiet system.
It's truly amazing that you were able to write these thoughtful comments up so quickly after this story was posted. NOT! Now I think I understand what "troll" menas. Maybe you copied this from somewhere else, but I'll respond to one comment nevertheless.
Sooner or later, the widespread distribution of near-perfect digital copies will destroy the market for commercial recordings, and make the production of the very product consumers seem so eager to pirate impossible.
So, they can just go back to publishing on vinyl. They can also raise the prices even more, and justify this (i.e. whine) by saying the prices are higher because it costs more to produce a vinyl album than a CD. Win-win for the RIAA. Not that I even care...
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In a discussion I was reading that mentioned this article, it was mentioned that there was a misspelled word in the comments of some allegedly copied code. If true, then one could just strip the comments from the Linux source, and do a spell check in the appropriate language. I forgot where I was this. Can somebody verify?
Or better yet, Ian Taylor can just tell us the name of the file.:)
Then let me rephrase: all GNU projects have freely available source code. I don't think "open source" is commonly used as a technical term, in the same sense "free software" is.
Would projects that compete with GNU/ projects receive any funds?
Don't forget that in addition to funding its own projects such as emacs and gcc, it indirectly funds all other software projects which rely on GNU tools, such as the Linux kernel, and a staggering host of others (open- and closed-sourced). A reasonable person may conclude that donating to FSF is good bang for the buck.
Oh, and KDE does have its own funding machine, which is rather successful, isn't it? Why does FSF need to send them cash?
Your criticism on this website is confused because you miss the point. By the way, you may want to check some of your historical facts, and especially the conclusions you make. Wouldn't want anyone to call your website "fiction."
Probably one of the most interesting things about the site you mention is the Paypal button for donations. This is fascinating. I suspect you are the author of the website, but hey, I'm lazy, so I apologize for not giving "any thought to research".
I hope you don't represent the Firebird SQL group, because that long list of examples you gave is kinda weak. 1. I can see mozilla users ending up at firebird.sourceforge.net looking for information on mozilla-firebird.
And so? It's not like people looking for Firebird SQL will end up going to mozilla.org. This example is something that should worry the Mozilla group, but guess what, it doesn't. Maybe you should thank the Mozilla community for giving Firebird SQL the free publicity.
2. I can see much confusion between news and list names : see... After a year of two of posts to these, that will seriously muck up google searches for "firebird" and "download" for instance, as well as firebird (and moz) getting user requests for browers/databases in both our general newslists.
Alas, any popular software named "Firebird" would give you the same problem. I know you don't think that you're the first software project named "Firebird", and I bet you're not even the first database named "Firebird". To whine about this now, after having chosen a very popular word used to sell many different types of products, is ridiculous. You may not be concerned that the category "software" is considered (common usage) a more broad category than one such as "automobile" (so a Mitsubishi Firebird is illegal, for instance), but you threw all your credibility out the door when, instead of coming up with an original name (a highly trivial task), you chose a generic name everybody and his cousin would consider using.
3. I can see package confusion occuring on most linux distributions - install which firebird rpm? 4. Security releases for "Firebird" are likely to overlapping on searches by product name.
please. 5. My (limited) exposure to legal issues, was that just being another software product is cause enough to create user confusion. So Im supprised at their legal advice (but am not a lawyer).
Are you saying there was no other software product name "Firebird" when you started using it three years ago? If so, I'd be interested in hearing about how you checked.
6. Web applications often include browsers and databases. Scripting languages often support both , so what will something like PHP with Firebird support mean.
The same thing "PHP with Mozilla support" or "C++ with Mozilla support" means. Nothing.
7. I don't want to spend the rest of my life explaining to people that Firebird (our project) is not a web browser.
So what? You can't even come up with an honest scenario where confusion is likely. People who use SQL databases aren't as inept as you think.
This is a highly desirable state, both for the programmer themself...
Actually, "themself" is not an American English word. If by chance you find it in some unabridged American English dictionary, it nevertheless looks as incorrect (to an American reader) as the word "hisself".
This is offtopic. Since you mentioned OEone, I looked at the website demo. Their calendar looks nice. Does anyone know of a stand-alone GUI calendar program for GNU/Linux that doesn't require installing most of the Gnome or KDE libraries, or any other massive libraries? (I use fluxbox on a laptop)
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I've always thought it strange that the kernel is in the portage tree. I understand that certain packages depend on certain kernels, but I usually just download the kernel and install like I always did.
It becomes impossible for ANYBODY to distribute GPL'd code.
Nope. If I wrote some code under the GPL, and then some court says the GPL is invalid, would I sue anyone for using it? Why would any author of GPL code sue anyone for using their code according to the terms? No court can force me to sue anyone. So if someone claims the GPL is "invalid", we just go about our business and ignore them. The GPL is more brilliant than most people realize-- it transcends the lameness of SCO and others. The GPL is freedom, dude.
Care to give details/references?
OTOH, it appears a fraction of a desktop Linux distro is worth $700 whereas a full-fledged Win2K3 server costs just $500. Goes to show how much superior Linux is, compared to Windoze.
Glad somebody finally said this...
O.k., I'm wrong. However, that link you gave seems to indicate that Linux is the sole owner of the mark. Also, the story I remember is that the inventor of the word "Linux" turned the trademark over to Linus. Contrary evidence?
Linus has never really enforced the trademark, so it's probably way to late to get started now.
unfortunatly, no matter how we feel about this, they are doing it legally.
Umm, no. They can't distribute other people's copyrighted code, and this includes Linux. If someone inserted unauthorized code in Windows, would the copyright holder get to own Windows???? The only way SCO can distribute Linux is under the GPL.
Where did you get the 55% statstic from?
Or, since he's from Maine, he could send the money to a friend there who could buy the stuff for him and ship it to Hungary. He could give the friend a reasonable tip as well. I guess this won't work if he wants to buy lots and lots of stuff on the web. Maybe try Ebay?
I am attempting to find out the following: what international agreements govern spectrum management;...
Ummm, instead of trying to use strong-arm tactics to get what you want, why not just play nice and try to get the rules changed from within? You do live there. Even better if you're a citizen there.
O.k., since this little hand-sized thing is overpriced, does anyone know if there is a reasonably-priced (200-300 USD) 1U-sized box that just comes with, say, a motherboard and Via C3? I've got spare RAM and quiet hard drives lying around. Just looking for the bare-bones, small, quiet system.
It's truly amazing that you were able to write these thoughtful comments up so quickly after this story was posted. NOT! Now I think I understand what "troll" menas. Maybe you copied this from somewhere else, but I'll respond to one comment nevertheless.
Sooner or later, the widespread distribution of near-perfect digital copies will destroy the market for commercial recordings, and make the production of the very product consumers seem so eager to pirate impossible.
So, they can just go back to publishing on vinyl. They can also raise the prices even more, and justify this (i.e. whine) by saying the prices are higher because it costs more to produce a vinyl album than a CD. Win-win for the RIAA. Not that I even care...
In a discussion I was reading that mentioned this article, it was mentioned that there was a misspelled word in the comments of some allegedly copied code. If true, then one could just strip the comments from the Linux source, and do a spell check in the appropriate language. I forgot where I was this. Can somebody verify?
:)
Or better yet, Ian Taylor can just tell us the name of the file.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 7000 shares at $3.06 per share is just $21420. Maybe he just cashed in to buy a new Lexus?
Then let me rephrase: all GNU projects have freely available source code. I don't think "open source" is commonly used as a technical term, in the same sense "free software" is.
Does the FSF fund any "open source" projects?
Aren't all GNU projects open source?
Would projects that compete with GNU/ projects receive any funds?
Don't forget that in addition to funding its own projects such as emacs and gcc, it indirectly funds all other software projects which rely on GNU tools, such as the Linux kernel, and a staggering host of others (open- and closed-sourced). A reasonable person may conclude that donating to FSF is good bang for the buck.
Oh, and KDE does have its own funding machine, which is rather successful, isn't it? Why does FSF need to send them cash?
Your criticism on this website is confused because you miss the point. By the way, you may want to check some of your historical facts, and especially the conclusions you make. Wouldn't want anyone to call your website "fiction."
Probably one of the most interesting things about the site you mention is the Paypal button for donations. This is fascinating. I suspect you are the author of the website, but hey, I'm lazy, so I apologize for not giving "any thought to research".
Maybe we should all just switch to GNU Hurd :)
Are you implying that FirebirdSQL invented the word "firebird"?
From what I've heard, Mozilla changed the name knowing FULL WELL there was another piece of software with the name.
I'm not saying this isn't true, but I would like to know if it is. Can you give any evidence?
I hope you don't represent the Firebird SQL group, because that long list of examples you gave is kinda weak.
1. I can see mozilla users ending up at firebird.sourceforge.net looking for information on mozilla-firebird.
And so? It's not like people looking for Firebird SQL will end up going to mozilla.org. This example is something that should worry the Mozilla group, but guess what, it doesn't. Maybe you should thank the Mozilla community for giving Firebird SQL the free publicity.
2. I can see much confusion between news and list names : see
After a year of two of posts to these, that will seriously muck up google searches for "firebird" and "download" for instance, as well as firebird (and moz) getting user requests for browers/databases in both our general newslists.
Alas, any popular software named "Firebird" would give you the same problem. I know you don't think that you're the first software project named "Firebird", and I bet you're not even the first database named "Firebird". To whine about this now, after having chosen a very popular word used to sell many different types of products, is ridiculous. You may not be concerned that the category "software" is considered (common usage) a more broad category than one such as "automobile" (so a Mitsubishi Firebird is illegal, for instance), but you threw all your credibility out the door when, instead of coming up with an original name (a highly trivial task), you chose a generic name everybody and his cousin would consider using.
3. I can see package confusion occuring on most linux distributions - install which firebird rpm?
4. Security releases for "Firebird" are likely to overlapping on searches by product name.
please.
5. My (limited) exposure to legal issues, was that just being another software product is cause enough to create user confusion. So Im supprised at their legal advice (but am not a lawyer).
Are you saying there was no other software product name "Firebird" when you started using it three years ago? If so, I'd be interested in hearing about how you checked.
6. Web applications often include browsers and databases. Scripting languages often support both , so what will something like PHP with Firebird support mean.
The same thing "PHP with Mozilla support" or "C++ with Mozilla support" means. Nothing.
7. I don't want to spend the rest of my life explaining to people that Firebird (our project) is not a web browser.
So what? You can't even come up with an honest scenario where confusion is likely. People who use SQL databases aren't as inept as you think.
This is a highly desirable state, both for the programmer themself...
Actually, "themself" is not an American English word. If by chance you find it in some unabridged American English dictionary, it nevertheless looks as incorrect (to an American reader) as the word "hisself".
This is offtopic. Since you mentioned OEone, I looked at the website demo. Their calendar looks nice. Does anyone know of a stand-alone GUI calendar program for GNU/Linux that doesn't require installing most of the Gnome or KDE libraries, or any other massive libraries? (I use fluxbox on a laptop)
SO maybe Amazon thought of this one already...