im in australia, and do you think i am all for the concept of the government taking it into their own hands for censorship? NO, i am of the firm belief that if people may be offended by such material they can either
a) not go to the damn site again in the future
b) install a program such as net nanny to prevent reoccurances in the future.
sure there are whinging weanies, but that doesnt give them the right to *possibly* have my right (as a conscenting adult) to look at whatever i want, when i so choose taken away from ME.
i help a friend out with their computer when they need help, they wanted netnanny installed, so i put it on, im happy, they are happy, its _THEIR_ choice and im quite happy to comply with the Software installation.
But when the government decides to take things a further step and decides that i am no longer competent to decide for myself what i can and cannot look at. Thats when I think things have gone too far, as a Sydney university Student (whose name escapes me at this point) pointed out, he runs a bot that automatically archives news in regards to a particualr scientific field to do with past history. as he said, it touches on Incest, raping, pillaging, and another couple of nasties. and his archive will almost certainly be adversely affected.
What about sex ed? shall the neophytes have those pages removed from/blocked from australia? hell, why dont we just go the whole 9 yards and block first aid sites because they may "expose" parts of the body that shouldnt be shown to any "decent human being" unneccesesarily. What about those short story sites (which seem to get the focus of the attention), and those slightly *blue* webcams that appear ever so profusely around the net, shall jennycam, narucam, stefcam or sulisvision or any one of the other webcams/lifecams be blocked simply because of the *POTENTIAL* for something possibly nasty to occur on that page and be seen by a australians eyes? im a consenting adult, i emphasise, I have the right to view what i want at my own discretion.
for god sake, shall the "National Library" or any other library in australia be forced to close a "online catalog" because it may have "sexual references" the encyclopedias, the novels, the medical textbooks, when will it STOP?
Mighten it be easier to just kill the satelite links, destroy the computer systems, go back to a horse and carriage and live two hundred years behind the times because of a few Politicians who "care" for your well being.
i said it before, i'll say it again, if the parents wish a child to NOT be exposed to the potential of "the net" and all its nasties, Either watch over their shoulder like a hawk, install net nanny, or more simply, "Hide the fucking MODEM" (oops i swore, am i going to get in trouble with the government?)
I do weekend / help desk work for a small ISP nearby, they are going to be pretty damn screwed if they have to go through and do so much extra work on the filtering. The censorship is going to ruin many a (so far) small and thriving business in a harsh competing environment as the extra work involved if they have to impliment a "compulsory" filter list and block sites not on request but demand. Net commerce is yet another curly question, what shall happen to that?
Did they ever consider what shall happen to the people that rely on these "naughty" sites for income? i mean c'mon filtering is one thing, but demanding 24 hour compliance for the site be removed? and the isp is NOT required to notify the owner of said site as to the actions enforced by the government on them? they cant even defend themselves directly, only a general complaint can be made, and not in defence to the accusation either.
Im proud to live here in Australia. and the turn of the Millenium was supposed to be a damn enjoyable event, so far a helluva shine has been taken off it already.
(there are some things i think shouldnt be on the net, but you take the good with the bad i spose, unfortunately trying to get rid of the bad has turned into a bad entity of its own)
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>Could this be the case here? I mean, what kind of idiots
>have you got running things down there? Or do I not want to know?
all i can say to this is "Ignorance is bliss"
Just talked with my parents,
it was my 4th word apparently
Salut Python
(great minds think alike 'eh?)
hehehe
a tad over reactive, but i still stand by my opinion on the censorship issue
lets see what a mess they make of it
and how they plan to fix it.
ok
put me on the list, get me OUTTA here, NZ will be MORE than adequate!
im in australia, and do you think i am all for the
concept of the government taking it into their own hands for censorship? NO, i am of the firm belief that if people may be offended by such material they can either
a) not go to the damn site again in the future
b) install a program such as net nanny to prevent reoccurances in the future.
sure there are whinging weanies, but that doesnt give them the right to *possibly* have my right (as a conscenting adult) to look at whatever i want, when i so choose taken away from ME.
i help a friend out with their computer when they need help, they wanted netnanny installed, so i put it on, im happy, they are happy, its _THEIR_ choice and im quite happy to comply with the Software installation.
But when the government decides to take things a further step and decides that i am no longer competent to decide for myself what i can and cannot look at. Thats when I think things have gone too far, as a Sydney university Student (whose name escapes me at this point) pointed out, he runs a bot that automatically archives news in regards to a particualr scientific field to do with past history. as he said, it touches on Incest, raping, pillaging, and another couple of nasties. and his archive will almost certainly be adversely affected.
What about sex ed? shall the neophytes have those pages removed from/blocked from australia? hell, why dont we just go the whole 9 yards and block first aid sites because they may "expose" parts of the body that shouldnt be shown to any "decent human being" unneccesesarily. What about those short story sites (which seem to get the focus of the attention), and those slightly *blue* webcams that appear ever so profusely around the net, shall jennycam, narucam, stefcam or sulisvision or any one of the other webcams/lifecams be blocked simply because of the *POTENTIAL* for something possibly nasty to occur on that page and be seen by a australians eyes? im a consenting adult, i emphasise, I have the right to view what i want at my own discretion.
for god sake, shall the "National Library" or any other library in australia be forced to close a "online catalog" because it may have "sexual references" the encyclopedias, the novels, the medical textbooks, when will it STOP?
Mighten it be easier to just kill the satelite links, destroy the computer systems, go back to a horse and carriage and live two hundred years behind the times because of a few Politicians who "care" for your well being.
i said it before, i'll say it again, if the parents wish a child to NOT be exposed to the potential of "the net" and all its nasties, Either watch over their shoulder like a hawk, install net nanny, or more simply, "Hide the fucking MODEM"
(oops i swore, am i going to get in trouble with the government?)
I do weekend / help desk work for a small ISP nearby, they are going to be pretty damn screwed if they have to go through and do so much extra work on the filtering. The censorship is going to ruin many a (so far) small and thriving business in a harsh competing environment as the extra work involved if they have to impliment a "compulsory" filter list and block sites not on request but demand. Net commerce is yet another curly question, what shall happen to that?
Did they ever consider what shall happen to the people that rely on these "naughty" sites for income? i mean c'mon filtering is one thing, but demanding 24 hour compliance for the site be removed? and the isp is NOT required to notify the owner of said site as to the actions enforced by the government on them? they cant even defend themselves directly, only a general complaint can be made, and not in defence to the accusation either.
Im proud to live here in Australia. and the turn of the Millenium was supposed to be a damn enjoyable event, so far a helluva shine has been taken off it already.
(there are some things i think shouldnt be on the net, but you take the good with the bad i spose, unfortunately trying to get rid of the bad has turned into a bad entity of its own)
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