the government has the authority to inhibit free speech any time they declare martial law.
Also through a judge! Judges can impose gag orders, thus restricting speech
Why don't they require judge's order for this? The debate seems to be -- what if some official comes over and says they really honestly think shutting down is a good idea. Is the debating which random officials get that power?
Don't we have judges to serve as an impartial observer?
we all could come up with scenarios where it might save lives to cut off service.
Who decides?
If it has to come from a government official - then "never" is the only answer
If this is coming from a judge (you know, like warrants... an impartial 3rd party), then it's probably ok.
My bad, but I think Ron Paul had been saying the same things (abolish TSA, etc). He's been ignored for many years now. So we are up to 2 politicians who believe in abolishing TSA?
Snow Leopard (10.6) was upgrade-only (and $29) IIRC;
Hah! Clearly you haven't been doing upgrades recently. Snow Leopard very much required Lion (10.5). Lion is available as an upgrade of Tiger (10.4) for which you also had to pay $30 or so.
The best part is that Lion upgrade was not available as a downloadable upgrade, so you had to buy a disk or go into Apple store, before you had the honor to pay for the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade.
I would love to. But if anyone besides a small following was listening to Ron Paul, US might have repealed PATRIOT act and even bombed fewer countries with drones.
Was he able to do the job well? Does it REALLY matter? If he got away with it that long I say good for him, if his employers aren't smart enough or care enough
They are now saying (in TFA) that this does not diminish his wonderful abilities to lead the company. They are not firing him! Is Yahoo HR informed that a relevant degree is now optional when they filter resumes?
I am happy with either direction:
a) Fire him and apologize for oversight
b) Keep him and announce that Yahoo believes that degrees don't mean much
Next they'll turn off the power... In the interest of the greater good...
Why is this moderated funny? If you assume that "imminent harm" (decided upon without a judge, I am pretty sure) is a good enough reason to kill cell phones.... then anything goes
Sleeping gas to keep people out of critical areas, puncturing tires or jamming doors to keep people from panicked driving. Driving a car is a privilege too.
temporary disruption of cell phone service, under extreme circumstances where harm and destruction are imminent, is a necessary tool to protect passengers
Even if we accept that premise - who decides if "harm and destruction" is imminent? Oh, that's right, BART decides that. A completely unbiased reviewer, they are.
Democrats are better overall on other kinds of civil liberties (especially compared to the theocratic wing of the Republican Party)
I believe this is an understatement. What you mean is that Democrats appear better on civil liberties because Republican party is populated with totally mad, raving lunatics that are fully detached from reality even compared to your average congressman. That doesn't say much about Democrats, I don't think they could go worse than Republicans on gay or women rights even if they tried.
The president himself was not happy with this provision and pushed back.
No, no a "threat" of a veto does not constitute pushback. A veto constitutes pushback. If he wasn't willing to fight this, then he gets no credit for opposing it.
Plus, Obama's main concern was that he wanted the White House to have unconstrained power. That is, he was not opposing the detention itself, he was opposing the rule that may have ignored Presidential discretion to detain someone.
I know a lot of people who pay for Hulu and would probably pay more.
Are any of them at least waiting for the Advertisement-Free account to become an option before they'd be willing to pay more?
I would happily pay for a streaming account membership, but I am not going to do so if that account comes with ads. Why are people ok with paying a membership fee and watching an ad sequence every 7 minutes into their show??
So what? Based on experience, the veto threat would probably be satisfied by an explicit exception disallowing the monitoring of the president or any of his aides. The article may say he cares about people's rights, but available data of his actions up-to-today makes it very unlikely.
Because the TSA isn't about security, it is about making people feel secure
That may be the justification for its existence (look, they are protecting us!), but I think TSA is about the contractors who got to sell those damn X-Ray machines. Several times, too.
First they sold a batch that was deemed unsafe even by TSA (well after they were deployed) and now they are being phased out by another batch which hasn't been properly tested either
I guess soon the current machines will be declared not-quite safe or not efficient and then some contractors will be selling more. I mean seriously, those machines cost 200-300K, but no one tested them for safety or verified that they work as intended!
Let your people know that you're watching and they'll need to answer for this.
But what are you going to do? At best, you can throw your support behind an opponent (assuming you don't despise him or her more than the incumbent). And that threat can only be executed when the next election rolls around - could be many months away
There should be a way to recall a politician right now.
I contacted my congressman to express my opposition. Anyone else?
Ha!
I'd be more impressed if anyone actually heard back something other than a canned letter "thank you for your support of CISPA" (regardless of the fact that your opinion was against it)
What I am to do next? What we sorely, sorely need is a standardized mechanism to recall and/or black-list (can't run for X months) a politician. As long as Y people from the constituency express their support for the penalty. The guarantee of politician's remaining term makes them complacent. In a year or two current issues will be long forgotten.
Unless you have a very terrible bank and/or don't bother checking your account ever, this isn't exactly a big deal. I just went through this a few weeks ago, when yonder random payment processor got owned hardcore.
Problem is they don't have to. The behavior will vary bank to bank, and running into such issue is how you learn. A bank might also say "sorry, the money is gone - transfer credentials were legitimate". And there will be nothing you can do.
Credit cards, on the other hand, provide chargeback as one of the services (often by screwing the vendor always assuming their fault, but that's another story and doesn't typically concern the buyer).
Seriously, you had me sold at having to remove my shoes at check-in.
I don't know where you are from outside of US, but in some ways, UK is actually worse. You can't even opt out of the x-ray scan machines in UK, and that's much worse than having to remove shoes (at least of those of us who don't plan to step into any x-ray machines unless their medical diagnosis required it).
And for some reason, every European country picked up that shit with tiny bottles, even though mixing such explosives apparently requires a chem lab rather than plane lavatory.
I have to be stripped naked and groped in order to get on the airplane
Actually, in US, it is still the choice between the two. Scanned OR groped. In London, if you are chosen to be scanned, groping is not an alternative (from what I understand). I will not be flying from London in foreseeable future.
I know this is a naive question, but should they perhaps be forcing the companies to do something and fining them instead of "evaluating"? Are they done now?
Congress seems to act like a cheer-leading squad, with all those non-binding resolutions and evaluations.
A service that's no longer required.... The real problem is that while innovation is hard, distribution is not anymore.
That's not entirely true.
Perhaps distribution is easy, but promotion is still expensive (perhaps more so now). You may argue that people should be playing locally, but to achieve global fame one needs very, very expensive promotion.
You would probably refer me to a number of self-published successes (like Louis CK)? Well, for some reason every one of those self-publishing successes was first made famous by the very media companies that you are claiming to be irrelevant
P.S. Yes, media companies are keeping too much, but there is still at least one service they do provide. Whether you think it is worth it, is another question.
It was hey we'll sign contract, here's money order, oh crap we sent you too much, can you send the difference back. Lost $500,
I think banks should be held responsible for that one.
I never got the money order to see, but from what I understand banks deposit the money order and credit it (not like a check that gets verified first) and then, 2 weeks later, the money is yanked from your account, because money order is fake.
If you bring cash, bank will test it. If you deposit a check, it will get confirmed before money is available. Why are money orders different??
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the government has the authority to inhibit free speech any time they declare martial law.
Also through a judge! Judges can impose gag orders, thus restricting speech
Why don't they require judge's order for this? The debate seems to be -- what if some official comes over and says they really honestly think shutting down is a good idea. Is the debating which random officials get that power?
Don't we have judges to serve as an impartial observer?
we all could come up with scenarios where it might save lives to cut off service.
Who decides?
If it has to come from a government official - then "never" is the only answer
If this is coming from a judge (you know, like warrants... an impartial 3rd party), then it's probably ok.
My bad, but I think Ron Paul had been saying the same things (abolish TSA, etc). He's been ignored for many years now. So we are up to 2 politicians who believe in abolishing TSA?
Snow Leopard (10.6) was upgrade-only (and $29) IIRC;
Hah! Clearly you haven't been doing upgrades recently. Snow Leopard very much required Lion (10.5). Lion is available as an upgrade of Tiger (10.4) for which you also had to pay $30 or so.
The best part is that Lion upgrade was not available as a downloadable upgrade, so you had to buy a disk or go into Apple store, before you had the honor to pay for the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade.
I would love to.
But if anyone besides a small following was listening to Ron Paul, US might have repealed PATRIOT act and even bombed fewer countries with drones.
Was he able to do the job well? Does it REALLY matter? If he got away with it that long I say good for him, if his employers aren't smart enough or care enough
They are now saying (in TFA) that this does not diminish his wonderful abilities to lead the company. They are not firing him! Is Yahoo HR informed that a relevant degree is now optional when they filter resumes?
I am happy with either direction:
a) Fire him and apologize for oversight
b) Keep him and announce that Yahoo believes that degrees don't mean much
But you can't have it both ways.
OMG! Think of the Medical Devices!
Ok, that's a little far-fetched.
How about temporarily booting all parked cars in the vicinity? For everyone's safety, of course.
turning off the data in underground public transportation seriously does not seem like that big of a deal to me.
What about a total jamming of all wireless communication in the area? (which may or may not include medical devices). Where do you draw the line?
Next they'll turn off the power ... In the interest of the greater good...
Why is this moderated funny? If you assume that "imminent harm" (decided upon without a judge, I am pretty sure) is a good enough reason to kill cell phones.... then anything goes
Sleeping gas to keep people out of critical areas, puncturing tires or jamming doors to keep people from panicked driving. Driving a car is a privilege too.
temporary disruption of cell phone service, under extreme circumstances where harm and destruction are imminent, is a necessary tool to protect passengers
Even if we accept that premise - who decides if "harm and destruction" is imminent? Oh, that's right, BART decides that. A completely unbiased reviewer, they are.
Democrats are better overall on other kinds of civil liberties (especially compared to the theocratic wing of the Republican Party)
I believe this is an understatement. What you mean is that Democrats appear better on civil liberties because Republican party is populated with totally mad, raving lunatics that are fully detached from reality even compared to your average congressman. That doesn't say much about Democrats, I don't think they could go worse than Republicans on gay or women rights even if they tried.
The president himself was not happy with this provision and pushed back.
No, no a "threat" of a veto does not constitute pushback. A veto constitutes pushback. If he wasn't willing to fight this, then he gets no credit for opposing it.
Plus, Obama's main concern was that he wanted the White House to have unconstrained power. That is, he was not opposing the detention itself, he was opposing the rule that may have ignored Presidential discretion to detain someone.
I know a lot of people who pay for Hulu and would probably pay more.
Are any of them at least waiting for the Advertisement-Free account to become an option before they'd be willing to pay more?
I would happily pay for a streaming account membership, but I am not going to do so if that account comes with ads. Why are people ok with paying a membership fee and watching an ad sequence every 7 minutes into their show??
Obama has issued a veto threat.
So what? Based on experience, the veto threat would probably be satisfied by an explicit exception disallowing the monitoring of the president or any of his aides. The article may say he cares about people's rights, but available data of his actions up-to-today makes it very unlikely.
Because the TSA isn't about security, it is about making people feel secure
That may be the justification for its existence (look, they are protecting us!), but I think TSA is about the contractors who got to sell those damn X-Ray machines. Several times, too.
First they sold a batch that was deemed unsafe even by TSA (well after they were deployed) and now they are being phased out by another batch which hasn't been properly tested either
I guess soon the current machines will be declared not-quite safe or not efficient and then some contractors will be selling more. I mean seriously, those machines cost 200-300K, but no one tested them for safety or verified that they work as intended!
Let your people know that you're watching and they'll need to answer for this.
But what are you going to do? At best, you can throw your support behind an opponent (assuming you don't despise him or her more than the incumbent). And that threat can only be executed when the next election rolls around - could be many months away
There should be a way to recall a politician right now.
I contacted my congressman to express my opposition. Anyone else?
Ha!
I'd be more impressed if anyone actually heard back something other than a canned letter "thank you for your support of CISPA" (regardless of the fact that your opinion was against it)
What I am to do next? What we sorely, sorely need is a standardized mechanism to recall and/or black-list (can't run for X months) a politician. As long as Y people from the constituency express their support for the penalty. The guarantee of politician's remaining term makes them complacent. In a year or two current issues will be long forgotten.
Unless you have a very terrible bank and/or don't bother checking your account ever, this isn't exactly a big deal. I just went through this a few weeks ago, when yonder random payment processor got owned hardcore.
Problem is they don't have to. The behavior will vary bank to bank, and running into such issue is how you learn. A bank might also say "sorry, the money is gone - transfer credentials were legitimate". And there will be nothing you can do.
Credit cards, on the other hand, provide chargeback as one of the services (often by screwing the vendor always assuming their fault, but that's another story and doesn't typically concern the buyer).
Or you dump 1/10th of that money ($100 million) into creating your own app that does the exact same thing and is tied to Facebook.
They eliminated a competitor and (more or less) bought their user-base
The actual code isn't worth nearly as much.
Seriously, you had me sold at having to remove my shoes at check-in.
I don't know where you are from outside of US, but in some ways, UK is actually worse. You can't even opt out of the x-ray scan machines in UK, and that's much worse than having to remove shoes (at least of those of us who don't plan to step into any x-ray machines unless their medical diagnosis required it).
And for some reason, every European country picked up that shit with tiny bottles, even though mixing such explosives apparently requires a chem lab rather than plane lavatory.
I have to be stripped naked and groped in order to get on the airplane
Actually, in US, it is still the choice between the two. Scanned OR groped.
In London, if you are chosen to be scanned, groping is not an alternative (from what I understand). I will not be flying from London in foreseeable future.
I know this is a naive question, but should they perhaps be forcing the companies to do something and fining them instead of "evaluating"? Are they done now?
Congress seems to act like a cheer-leading squad, with all those non-binding resolutions and evaluations.
A service that's no longer required. ... The real problem is that while innovation is hard, distribution is not anymore.
That's not entirely true.
Perhaps distribution is easy, but promotion is still expensive (perhaps more so now). You may argue that people should be playing locally, but to achieve global fame one needs very, very expensive promotion.
You would probably refer me to a number of self-published successes (like Louis CK)? Well, for some reason every one of those self-publishing successes was first made famous by the very media companies that you are claiming to be irrelevant
P.S. Yes, media companies are keeping too much, but there is still at least one service they do provide. Whether you think it is worth it, is another question.
It was hey we'll sign contract, here's money order, oh crap we sent you too much, can you send the difference back. Lost $500,
I think banks should be held responsible for that one.
I never got the money order to see, but from what I understand banks deposit the money order and credit it (not like a check that gets verified first) and then, 2 weeks later, the money is yanked from your account, because money order is fake.
If you bring cash, bank will test it. If you deposit a check, it will get confirmed before money is available. Why are money orders different??
When Microsoft cuts the chord on XP
Oh, what do you know, TFA says "chord" too
Ok, in that case someone should write summaries, instead of always lifting 2 paragraphs from TFA verbatim.
And I've never seen heyday spelled as "hey-day". Just doesn't look right.