Not only that but the basic system utilities are what's important.
If something breaks (and it will) knowing to use vi to edit your configuration is a bit much (knowing *how* to use vi is a whole other issue).
In Windows we have names like Notepad, Paint, Imaging, Calculator, WordPad, Backup, Clipboard Viewer, Disk Defragmenter, etc. These are simple, descriptive names and as attached as we seem (??) to be they are a nightmare for new users.
I think it's the responsibility of the OS to make sure uncooperative hardware/software is dealt with appropriately. I realize that doing so isn't easy...
Well this applies to all operating systems and at least as far I know isn't just realistic today.
I agree this would be nice, but Linus can't fix my NVidia drivers or replace the capacitors on my motherboard.
If your system has that much trouble, send it back to Dell. You want hardware and software support for your system, thats where you'll get it.
While the author may find XP stable enough, I've gotten it to spontaneously reboot itself more times than I care to count.
I appreciate your frustration but I think the author is right. Your reboots could be caused by a number of problems, not necissarily the fault of Microsoft.
I think its important that we dont just blindly bash MS or we lose focus. XP does seem to be more stable and this is a good thing for those who are stuck (or happy) using it.
I've been using Linux for about 4 years now and I *do* experience crashes. Usually lockups associated with my graphics card (closed source NVidia drivers), but it could be my hardware.
A lot a variables in a working computer and its easy to blame Microsoft. But we don't really gain anything, especially if its unfounded.
Has anyone every really compared existing mp3 players (under Linux)? I've been using Splay for a couple of years now and it seems to have a much nicer sound. I think I read about it in the Linux journal. Any one else?
Close. I think actually the next best think is the bootable Gentoo. Of course Americas Army is a nice bone thrown in there too.
Got to have emerge. Besided srpms fail, a lot. Still easier to use make by hand and thats just not as satisfying (but still more fun then double-click-install:-).
I *like* decentralized server. I know this is getting tuffer (especially with MMRPG's) but I really preffer them. Of course theres the cost (subscriptions) but what I really like is the community, and Mods!
I'll be pretty sad if I see more and more games switch over to this model.
I mean its fun running your own server and a great way to participate (I ran a Tribes 2 War2003 modded server for about a year).
Funny thing is, I'm seeing more 'legitimate' media talking about Linux then ever. The more they yell the more respected business journals will end up printing conversion stories with every bodies new favorite underdog.
I bet this all make for some pretty funny board meetings.
Sometimes corporations act in purposes cross to the public good. The robber barons of this century are going to be the technology ogopolies. When a company take the position of manipulating public policy to limit or stifle the availability of technology in order to increase its profitability there should be public outcry.
One of the rights the GPL gives that never gets enough attention from people arguing like you is the freedom not to use it.
Don't like the license? Don't use it. Whats important is that the projects that are released under the GPL will be available for your children and your children's children to read and learn from, and maybe even develop.
Now repeat after me.
I will not post trolls on Slashdot.
I will not post trolls on Slashdot.
I will not post trolls on Slashdot. ...
In case anyone hasn't already been beaten over the head by this, the two licenses are very different and serve different circumstances and individuals. There is no right or wrong here, just two great licenses.
Summary:
GPL=Free software must remain always free. BSD=Free software should be free even to not to be free.
Correct license? Whichever you prefer or suits your project better.
Other alternatives? Sure, but trolls don't care.;-)
I couldn't remember where I'd read about the Novell/UC Berkley licensing issue, here it is in the FreeBSD handbook (an amazingly thorough book!). A little history.
Linux is taking heat because it is threatening "the established power structures". If the BSD's had been able to go open first they would probably be in this type of situation today themselves, but I wouldn't be sitting here and teasing you about it.;-)
The above poster is dead on. SMTP doesn't need to be replaced, that would be a waste of energy. But provide a better alternative and we will naturally migrate towards it.
I mean imagine we where talking about DSL. If you had your choice between AOL dial-up or a highspeed connection for about the same cost and convenience which would you choose?
See if you can still get a copy of Tribes 2. I've wasted SO MUCH time with this one I finally had to resign from the clan I created.
Mod communities are the bomb. I played War2003 non-stop. Nice thing is if you come in without knowing how to play it, its fine because a lot of people are still "discovering" the mod.
Actually if they where going to do that they would have done it very differently. This is more likely a case of smart people being stupid, which happens in a threatened corporate structure.
I've been active long enough on the internet (as I'm sure most of you have) to know what types of irrational fears non-technical people are succeptable to; viruses, backdoor programs, big brother type monitoring and control.
These types of threats will only get the attention of technical people, law analysts a few reporters and some script kids.
I get a bit of a kick out of it, I mean how many fights can they afford right now? This is one group of people (you; technical people) I'd not want to fight with like that. So bring on the popcorn!
This is one of those threads (the original news post) that really tries my patience. But there always seems to be one post like yours to make up for it.
Sorry, I should have made that more clear. It handles the dependancies automatically (like with Debian's apt-get), so you don't do any searching.
Just configure urpmi with Easy Urpmi (hint: cut and paste works in the console, just middle click to paste) and any application you try to install will bring up a dependancy dialog. It's sweet (and just what we needed).
Last thing I can think of that I left off, rpmdrake also includes complete descriptions of the packages (so its like having a local copy of freshmeat with everything set up for *your* system) including Name, Version, Size a Summary a Description the Source (Tex, PLF, contrib, main, etc) and the included files, which is great if your browsing!
I feel like a broken record lately..sorry. But your describing Mandrake and their urpmi/rpmdrake set. I agree, dependencies are a huge pain but a properly setup Mandrake box will handle those with rpmdrake (a gui frontend) which includes a really good index (by group, name, source, etc).
Think of Mandrake as Sid with less crashing and almost everything else you just asked for.
Just don't forget to configure urpmi with Easy Urpmi with all available sources first off (Nvidia drivers, Macromedia plugins, all sorts of good stuff!) so you can get those apps! (and remove the Mandrake Mplayer and replace with the PLF..wink, wink)
There are plenty of distros out there that do these types of things. Problem is they are distros like Mandrake or Lindows and they usually get a lot of flack in the community for being so newbie, which of course no one who is new to the Linux scene really wants to be called anyway (I mean, your a computer science major, right?) so they install Redhat or Debian.
FWIW Mandrake is a power user distro, but you get to choose when and where. That kicks ass.
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Not only that but the basic system utilities are what's important.
;-)
If something breaks (and it will) knowing to use vi to edit your configuration is a bit much (knowing *how* to use vi is a whole other issue).
In Windows we have names like Notepad, Paint, Imaging, Calculator, WordPad, Backup, Clipboard Viewer, Disk Defragmenter, etc. These are simple, descriptive names and as attached as we seem (??) to be they are a nightmare for new users.
Even symbolic links would do.
I think it's the responsibility of the OS to make sure uncooperative hardware/software is dealt with appropriately. I realize that doing so isn't easy...
Well this applies to all operating systems and at least as far I know isn't just realistic today.
I agree this would be nice, but Linus can't fix my NVidia drivers or replace the capacitors on my motherboard.
If your system has that much trouble, send it back to Dell. You want hardware and software support for your system, thats where you'll get it.
While the author may find XP stable enough, I've gotten it to spontaneously reboot itself more times than I care to count.
I appreciate your frustration but I think the author is right. Your reboots could be caused by a number of problems, not necissarily the fault of Microsoft.
I think its important that we dont just blindly bash MS or we lose focus. XP does seem to be more stable and this is a good thing for those who are stuck (or happy) using it.
I've been using Linux for about 4 years now and I *do* experience crashes. Usually lockups associated with my graphics card (closed source NVidia drivers), but it could be my hardware.
A lot a variables in a working computer and its easy to blame Microsoft. But we don't really gain anything, especially if its unfounded.
Has anyone every really compared existing mp3 players (under Linux)? I've been using Splay for a couple of years now and it seems to have a much nicer sound. I think I read about it in the Linux journal. Any one else?
If the MPAA won't let him sell tickets at a fair price (his price), wouldn't that be price fixing?
That could make for and interesting news story.
I just read a great post about the same subject (right above yours).
Link
Close. I think actually the next best think is the bootable Gentoo. Of course Americas Army is a nice bone thrown in there too.
Got to have emerge. Besided srpms fail, a lot. Still easier to use make by hand and thats just not as satisfying (but still more fun then double-click-install:-).
Gentoo Games
I *like* decentralized server. I know this is getting tuffer (especially with MMRPG's) but I really preffer them. Of course theres the cost (subscriptions) but what I really like is the community, and Mods!
I'll be pretty sad if I see more and more games switch over to this model.
I mean its fun running your own server and a great way to participate (I ran a Tribes 2 War2003 modded server for about a year).
Funny thing is, I'm seeing more 'legitimate' media talking about Linux then ever. The more they yell the more respected business journals will end up printing conversion stories with every bodies new favorite underdog.
I bet this all make for some pretty funny board meetings.
Sometimes corporations act in purposes cross to the public good. The robber barons of this century are going to be the technology ogopolies. When a company take the position of manipulating public policy to limit or stifle the availability of technology in order to increase its profitability there should be public outcry.
One of the rights the GPL gives that never gets enough attention from people arguing like you is the freedom not to use it.
Don't like the license? Don't use it. Whats important is that the projects that are released under the GPL will be available for your children and your children's children to read and learn from, and maybe even develop.
That's freedom.
Now repeat after me.
...
;-)
I will not post trolls on Slashdot.
I will not post trolls on Slashdot.
I will not post trolls on Slashdot.
In case anyone hasn't already been beaten over the head by this, the two licenses are very different and serve different circumstances and individuals. There is no right or wrong here, just two great licenses.
Summary:
GPL=Free software must remain always free.
BSD=Free software should be free even to not to be free.
Correct license? Whichever you prefer or suits your project better.
Other alternatives? Sure, but trolls don't care.
But I don't know about your statement that "It's better than any alternatives I've seen..." it just sounds like you haven't seen many alternatives.
Maybe you'd be surprized how much Microsoft could learn?
I couldn't remember where I'd read about the Novell/UC Berkley licensing issue, here it is in the FreeBSD handbook (an amazingly thorough book!). A little history.
Why? Are they immune to this sort of harassment?
;-)
Linux is taking heat because it is threatening "the established power structures". If the BSD's had been able to go open first they would probably be in this type of situation today themselves, but I wouldn't be sitting here and teasing you about it.
If you need to be told it's obviously not for you (:I don't understand either:).
As much as I care about this sort of t..h....zzzz.
The above poster is dead on. SMTP doesn't need to be replaced, that would be a waste of energy. But provide a better alternative and we will naturally migrate towards it.
I mean imagine we where talking about DSL. If you had your choice between AOL dial-up or a highspeed connection for about the same cost and convenience which would you choose?
Nope, seem to be working just fine.
See if you can still get a copy of Tribes 2. I've wasted SO MUCH time with this one I finally had to resign from the clan I created.
Mod communities are the bomb. I played War2003 non-stop. Nice thing is if you come in without knowing how to play it, its fine because a lot of people are still "discovering" the mod.
Actually if they where going to do that they would have done it very differently. This is more likely a case of smart people being stupid, which happens in a threatened corporate structure.
I've been active long enough on the internet (as I'm sure most of you have) to know what types of irrational fears non-technical people are succeptable to; viruses, backdoor programs, big brother type monitoring and control.
These types of threats will only get the attention of technical people, law analysts a few reporters and some script kids.
I get a bit of a kick out of it, I mean how many fights can they afford right now? This is one group of people (you; technical people) I'd not want to fight with like that. So bring on the popcorn!
This is one of those threads (the original news post) that really tries my patience. But there always seems to be one post like yours to make up for it.
Sorry, I should have made that more clear. It handles the dependancies automatically (like with Debian's apt-get), so you don't do any searching.
Just configure urpmi with Easy Urpmi (hint: cut and paste works in the console, just middle click to paste) and any application you try to install will bring up a dependancy dialog. It's sweet (and just what we needed).
Last thing I can think of that I left off, rpmdrake also includes complete descriptions of the packages (so its like having a local copy of freshmeat with everything set up for *your* system) including Name, Version, Size a Summary a Description the Source (Tex, PLF, contrib, main, etc) and the included files, which is great if your browsing!
I feel like a broken record lately..sorry. But your describing Mandrake and their urpmi/rpmdrake set. I agree, dependencies are a huge pain but a properly setup Mandrake box will handle those with rpmdrake (a gui frontend) which includes a really good index (by group, name, source, etc).
Think of Mandrake as Sid with less crashing and almost everything else you just asked for. Just don't forget to configure urpmi with Easy Urpmi with all available sources first off (Nvidia drivers, Macromedia plugins, all sorts of good stuff!) so you can get those apps! (and remove the Mandrake Mplayer and replace with the PLF..wink, wink)
There are plenty of distros out there that do these types of things. Problem is they are distros like Mandrake or Lindows and they usually get a lot of flack in the community for being so newbie, which of course no one who is new to the Linux scene really wants to be called anyway (I mean, your a computer science major, right?) so they install Redhat or Debian.
FWIW Mandrake is a power user distro, but you get to choose when and where. That kicks ass.