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Latest Animatrix Short Released
martyn s writes "The latest animatrix short, The Second Renaissance, Part 2 is finally out. This short is the continuation of The Second Renaissance Part 1. Taken together, these shorts document how, in the matrix universe, 'Man was the architect of his own demise.'"
And here's the
BitTorrent link.
I love the idea of these shorts. Kudos to the license holders for doing these.
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They were the contractors he hired after he'd finished his blueprints!
I liken the recent rebirth, revelations, and renaissance of trolling on Slashdot to the soon-to-be-classic epic battle between Neo (played by actor Keanu Reeves) and the rogue virus Agent Smith (portrayed by the esteemed actor Hugo Weaving).
In this climactic and feverishly pitched battle, a rejuvenated Agent Smith confronts Neo. Neo (cmdr taco) has increased his power (anti troll filters) exponentially. Agent Smith (troll) has since developed the ability to infect the "shells" of others, a process which he uses to effectively multiply. At the outset of the battle, Agent Smith attempts to first infect Neo and spread into his "system". The troll filters prove amiable, and Neo easily repels this clever initial attack. Undaunted, the troll (Agent Smith) seeks to gain assistance from those in his surrounding environment. With the most excellent and well placed of trollings, Agent Smith captures the hearts and minds of many others, effectively creating an army in his own image (Trollkore, CLIT, You Fail It, IN SOVIET RUSSIA, etc).
This new army of Agent Smiths pour down upon Neo in a glorious wave of absurdity, brutal character attacks, vulgar ASCII imagery, and unprecedented and unusual tales of sexual escapades. The ensuing melee is a remarkable epic of good vs. evil, as the many trolls continue to pour down upon cmdr taco, seeking to defeat him with an avalanche of numbers. The outcome to this bitter rivalry has yet to be seen.
Which is where we find ourselves tonight gentlemen.
This is a war, and we are soldiers.
Why are we using BitTorrent to spare AOL's bandwidth?!?!?!? We never use BitTorrent to spare the poor guy who builds a lego robot or whatever and hosts his site on his DSL and then gets slashdotted. Sometimes Slashdot editors can just be so dumb...
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If you went along earlier today there would have been the pages accessible to download Part 2, except all of the links pointed to the first episode! I think a professional site could do a bit better than that. As some of you may have discovered after downloading a hundred megabyte file. :)
wget -c http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.m ov
For those of you who keep getting dropped or get half finished downloads...
PepperHacks - Hacking the Pepper Pad
...Still waiting for Terminator 3.... (please, god, let this movie not suck, because I will surely kill myself)
Just finished watching it, and I'm a smidge disappointed. I thought the first half set up an excellent backstory, but here, it's just "We attacked them, we lost, we're a power source," without any kind of expansion. It feels like this half just ended the story without trying to make any details beyond what we've gleaned from the first movie. Wasn't there a first Matrix that crashed and burned due to the people not able to accept it as reality? Was there any debate at all over how long the Dark Storm would last, unless they had some way to clear it afterwards? When did the AI develop the spidery robots?
While I think the Animatrix project has been pretty damn good, I think this one has fallen way short of expectations.
Those direct links are for the FIRST episode (hence the "Episode1" in the URL). And post the sizes next to the links, these are HUGE (e.g. 140 MB). Better yet, just link to the page, it's really well done and quick.
One simple rule for its versus it's
The latest animatrix short, The Second Renaissance, Part 2 is finally out. This short is the continuation of The Second Renaissance Part 1.
Thanks for clearing that up for me...I was wonder what part was before part 2
"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
But, with all the illegal stuff also going around, im sure that the **AA's will be going after bittorrent as well!
Because it needs a centralised server (the tracker), it will be easier to knock out!
I dunno, man, I feel like I'm being preached to, again. Like:
Clean out the fridge before you eat something moldy which will make you sick.
Driving an SUV supports terrorism
Ordering french fries supports evil regimes which have WMD
If you don't pick up your room it'll lead to communist world domination.
Technology advances faster than our ability to manage it, eventually it will manage you if you don't watch out.
Some year, first the Matrix 2, then T3... What's the message here? Fear technology? Screw that.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
The "direct links" are wrong, they point to the episode 1. Here are the correct ones:b online/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/2R2_640_dl.zip: //progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/2R2_480_dl.zip: //progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/2R2_320_dl.zip
http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/w
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I can't wait for the "So, now we like the MPAA now?" posts! +5 for sure.
They're always interesting to me. I know some think that type of post is stupid crap, but I'm actually part of post-backlash-"hate the RIAA/MPAA" posts. They're kind of kitsch and retro.
Just wait till some crappy band steals your nic.
I can understand on one level creating a huge number of categories if it's to show off one's nifty icons, but why have both "Media" and "Movies" if their both going to have the same picture?
(At article heading on top of this page.)
Already have the svcd with this episode. Thanks, tho.
http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.m ov (640x272) / progressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixmedfinal_dl. mov (480x204) / progressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixsmfinal_dl.m ov (320x136)
http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline
http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline
You guys know the full DVD release is already on the news groups right?...
The CG in the "Last stand of the oberon" or something is crazy...
Anyway.. search for it.. youll find it.
Please note Tubgirl link in parent. You naughty boy.
I think those links are wrong, I only tried the large one. Here's some new links -
Large 640x272 - 138 MB
Medium 480x204 - 87 MB
Small 320x136 - 31 MB
Or you can go here.
The entire series of 9 short CG-Animatrion/Japanese Anime films will soon be available on DVD. Depending on your MPAA stance (and what day of the week it is) follow the white rabbit via one of the links below to pre-order your copy.
Official web site
Amazon US: available 3 June
Amazon UK: available 2 June
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
has been out for days on bittorent sites. it's shown up as a 2 SVCD set & as an XViD... mayhaps you boys would be interested in that?
Never saw this one coming... :^)
You are in a maze of twisted little posts, all alike.
I think these were the worst shorts of those that I've seen online and in the theaters. The plotline, while interesting, is overly simplistic with the nice, sweet, never-harming robots simply wanting their own state while the cruel, evil humans only want to enslave them. It glosses over issues such as the previous human occupiers of the new robot state, or human sympathizers (geeks?) and the real problems with granting sentient-status to the machines. I realize it's just a short, and that it's told from the perspective on another computer (the Zion archive...?), but I still felt that it was a (very) poor-man's Metropolis. If you did enjoy it, please pick up Metropolis and check it out, you'll probably love it.
The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.
What exactly is the reason behind trying to compress already compressed audio and video files again? The size reduction, if you happen to get one, is negligable and it tends to make the file slightly bigger from what I've seen. I've never really understood this.
"Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
a bittorent site specifically for slashdot victims.
go to
BitTorrent Files for Slashdot Effect Victims
The.Animatrix.DVDRip.XViD.READ.NFO-DVL among others, anyways i enjoyed the animation, but am not a big fan of anime
You might not get much compression, but at least you'll know that that 140 meg file you just hauled down isn't corrupt three-quarters of the way through.
damn... I've been reloading animatrix web page since May first all the time, and when I take for 5 minutes, the short is released... anyway, Thanks all of u for the mirrors at bit torrent, now, if someone has The Final Flight of the Osiris would be great :)
It's advisable to download this using Freenet, rather than BitTorrent, as Freenet has a more robust, permanent network, and has many hundreds of nodes that might have never seen this file, but will automatically begin to share it, if it becomes popular.
;)
;)
That means faster download speeds. The RedHat 9 ISO files were downloading at over 120KB/sec on Freenet.
There is also the advantage that the link does not go down, when the people close their download windows
You can Download a copy of Freenet here, and donate Here
I had just uploaded it, but apparently the direct links in the story were wrong, so I've re-uploaded Episode 1 of the Animatrix. I'll try to provide a freenet link again soon, but I suspect it will be too late for most people
-Colin
Colin Davis
select the text, middle click in a consol to paste it, and remove the spaces because the filter sucks ass.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
http://torrentse.cx/download.p hp?file=Animatrix.Xvid.fixedaudio.avi.torrent
htt p://torrentse.cx/download.php?file=The.Animatrix.S TV.DVDRip.SVCD-TCF.torrent
1. The Second rennisance is by far the best (two) of the clips. All of the others were mediocre.
2. Refering to the nuclear war between ZEROONE and humanity, TSR says: "The Machines were unaffected by the radiation" What about the EMPs that nukes generate?
hmmm how long have you been waiting to crack out that gem?
At least the 3 ones I have don't. The image looks fine and the sound sounds fine, but according to mplayer the sound codec takes an awful lot of CPU time, and I get a really horrible loss of sync between audio and video. Video goes something like two times slower than it should.
I can play other movies just fine, with a CPU usage of under 10%, but these ones keep my CPU at maxium. I suppose that an Athlon MP 2000+ should be enough to decode these ones, right?
When I first went to the Animatrix site, the download links were exactly as posted in the article, which are for the Part 1 not Part 2. Checking in a half-hour later, the links on the site were what they should be.
Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
They still don't explain how a human in itself can generate more energy than it costs to maintain that very same human alive and well in the Matrix.
That is a major plot hole for me, and I hoped they would use the possibility here to explain it in greater detail. But noo. Just a tiny bit of plot that amounts to 'the war started, we darkened the sky, then we lost and got put in the Matrix'.
(Since this is anime, they could have gone wacky with this. For example, say that humans posess a unique ability to harvest immense amounts metaphysical energy, and that the Matrix somehow taps this energy. Much better than the 'new form of fusion' crap explanation.)
..I've seen all of them [thanks to the wonders of technology] and found the two mentioned [2nd ren] very dissapointing. The rest of the series turn into pulsating factals with colours that look like a bad trip.
..as an incidental, for anyone who saw XMEN2 - did you notice that the screen was flickering morethan normal? was it just me, or is this that new anti-cam thing? If i thought about it my eyes started running uncontrollably!
However, look out for 'beyond', and the one about the P.I - it's very good.
I've never gotten the quicktime thing to work. The audio is always st-stu-stuttering.
Sure, it's a great idea, but it has a lot of implications. For example, commercial sites rely on their banner ads to generate revenue. If I cache one of their pages, this will mess with their statistics, and mess with their banner ads. In other words, this will piss them off.
Of course, most of the time, the commercial sites that actually have income from banner ads easily withstand the Slashdot Effect. So perhaps we could draw the line at sites that don't have ads. They are, after all, much more likely to buckle under the pressure of all those unexpected hits. But what happens if I cache the site, and they update themselves? Once again, I'm transmitting data that I shouldn't be, only this time my cache is out of date!
I could try asking permission, but do you want to wait 6 hours for a cool breaking story while we wait for permission to link someone?
So the quick answer is: "Sure, caching would be neat." It would make things a lot easier when servers go down, but it's a complicated issue that would need to be thought through in great detail before being implemented.
Better button up your asshole, 'cuz Slashdot is coming to town, and we don't need no steenkin' mirrors!
BOOM!
NSDF
So for the second time I waste 45 minutes trying to figure out how the fuck to install this thing on Redhat.
This time I figured it out. Here's how to do it:
Go to the bittorrent page.
download the "cvs_alikins" rpms
If you install just this, then btdownloadcurses will download, but it's pretty broken.
to get btdownloadgui to work go to:
http://www.wxpython.org/download.php
and follow the instructions under the "Linux RPMs" sections (do rpm -q python2 to figure out which python2 you have. I have 2.2)
The INSTALL.unix.txt installed by the BitTorrent package should give you enough info to get it working with your browser.
This applies to 7.3. It probably also applies to 8 and 9, but YMMV.
Beyond the sci-fi and action elements of the Matrix it's neat how they are working more of the religios and philisophical elements into the canon ... quite a bit of it going on in this short ... the Boddhavista sitting on the lotus, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. That being said, I was expecting this episode to be a bit more cynical (if that can be imagined, it's pretty dark already) ... I always thought it would be a mind bender to learn that the humans voluntarily hooked themselves up to the Matrix because living that way would be preferrable to the burned out wasteland they created through war.
I started getting it off bittorent then cancelled cause I was only getting like 30k, now I am getting 120k off the main link. The main link stood through the last slashdotting when the last animatrix movie came out, I don't think they will go down this time
History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it - Sir Winston Churchill
You do know that these shorts come from a commercial DVD ie. posting them on the internet is illegal. Only four of the shorts were released freelly on the net, so to get the other five or so you have to buy the DVD.
--- No, english is not my mother tongue.
Please note that this is the same filename as the mov for Second Renaissance - Part 1, so be careful when copying or moving to your Animatrix archive. I'm wget'ing the zipped version.
I use QuickPlayer 6.1 on Wine to watch the Animatrix movies... MPlayer and Xine play the sound ahead by a few seconds. I tried fiddling with the audio delay, but no go. What do you guys use (on Linux)?
emerge /usr/portage/net-p2p/bittorrent/bittorrent-3.2.1.e build.
Every day, more people see the light that is gentoo!
I hope we're not taking the premise of The Matrix too seriously. After all, in the description of the state of the real world Morpheus gives, we're told that the AIs are using humans for energy "with a form of fusion." Psst, if you fusion of any kind, you sure don't need humans to generate energy, since they'll poop out more energy than they provide!
The Matrix is great fun, but taking it as a serious piece of science fiction, and providing further rationalization of the backstory, is like taking cartoons featuring Yosemite Sam as serious Westerns. It's entertaining, but not in that way.
Watch out for spoilers -- there's a multi-page section discussing the plot which is well-marked with warnings.
Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
It appears as though the 480 wide movie and the zip file from the official website are both corrupted.
I've always wondered this, so I'll ask here.
Neo's powers only work within the Matrix right? And they have had the Matrix crash before right? (They mention it in the first when Smith was interrogating Morpheus- and at the end when the green code stops) So why not just debug whatever it is that gives Neo his power in the Matrix and recompile?
Or just do away with the whole program. They didn't always have a programming running, they could just force people at this point...kind of like a UPS system, not as good, but works!
Et voila, they win, no?
the dvdrip is already out..
NFO #1
NFO #2
NFO #3
Time to watch Final flight of the Osiris again, I think..
-r
SF should not be taken literally, after all it's F for fiction. However, The Matrix has many interesting philosophical points and it's a lot more than just technofetishist action. It makes you think about things from different angles than what we're used to in our boring, 9 to 5 working lives. (and that's for the fortunate ones who have a job. *sigh*)
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
That makes abolutly _no_ sense. Entropy makes it very unlikely that getting energy from people would be more efficient than converting the stuff they're using to feed the people directly into energy, especially given the "along with a kind of fusion" remark in the first movie. Even if that weren't true, _cows_ would be a much better source of energy, they're 100% herbivores and thus more efficient, and the machines wouldn't need to bother with the matrix at all for cows.
The only reasonable explanation is that Morpheus doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He assumes the people are being used as a power source because he's not up on his basic physics, in actuality the people are being used as processors for tasks that the human brain is well suited for but the machine style AI can't handle efficiently.
Unfortunatly with the Second Renaisance Part 2, we need to expand the circle of people who have no clue what they're talking about and include the archivist, or whatever the narator is, in the group.
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I look at it this way. Morpheous says the humans are baterries. Basically they are feeding the humans energy, but not getting it all back right away. Battery.
Meh.
Ok, WTF IS THAT? a chick with diahrea shitting on her own face? it that REAL? OMG!
If I ran a website with over 700,000 daily technically-minded readers, I'd happily take cash from the bittorrent guys twho want to beef up their network with my drone army.
I'm a girl too! See naked chicks in my journal!
> fucktard
Is that somthing like a Woman's Period blood mixed with mustard? Can I just have some Grey Poupon?
For those of you who love the donkey as much as I do, here are the links to the share-reactor's Animatrix-DVD releases:
/.ed, here is the direct link to the Xvid-File:
... :)
Get the wohle DVD here (Xvid) or here (SVCD)!
And for not letting the weak Sharereactor-Servers get
Animatrix_(2003).DVL.ShareReactor.avi
But for some strange reason, you have to apply a fix mentioned on the SR-page, after your download has been finished.
I love to see "The final flight of the Osiris" again without having to pay for Dreamcatcher
We know you liked it... And please notice that her vaginal hair is censored, of all things! In Japan, you aren't allowed to show vaginal hair, but you can show the anus. Yucka Yucka!
Weird...even though I grabbed them straight from the source for the pages for the second part, they point to the first part. Whatever...use the other links people posted.
http://matrix.ugo.com/zionswitchboard/messageview. cfm?catid=39&threadid=8247
We *should* be seing more people release any series of videos complete within the Tape_Archive (tar) format. It is an easy way of keeping things together in 1 file and if wanted the user can simply compres that one file (tar). This makes any codec somewhat strange to have built-in compression as compression algorithms (such as zip, bzip, lzip, gzip, etc) change often. Now we have flac, s3tc, and various other algorithms specialized for video and audio data built-in to the codec. Perhaps they should start distributing video and audio data seperatly, for advantages of any compression algorithm to be applied to any data set inter-changably.
:)
C'mon moderators, please redeam SlashdotTroll with some Positive Karma; I ned to be fed.
Funny you mention that. I used to work at a Red Roof Inn in Columbus, OH, and godhead stayed there. I ended up jamming with the lead guitar player. He plays some mean blues but, as a band, you are right they do suck. I actually asked him why he was playing in this shitty band, and he said it was only for the money.
Just like driving a car:
(D) to go forward
(R) to go backward
As usual, no way to watch this in Linux.
/usr/lib/win32/qtmlClient.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/qtmlClient.dll :( /roam/dm/.mplayer/codecs.conf from etc/codecs.conf
Take for expample MPlayer's complaint:
Opening video decoder: [qtvideo] Quicktime Video decoder
Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: qtmlClient.dll,
invalid qt DLL!
VDecoder init failed
*** Try to upgrade
*** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html!
DOCS/codecs.html said, a bunch of confusing stuff, mainly "go to our website and get more confused". Why can't video people ever write stuff in english?
"Hi, my name is Foobar, and I can't seem to get Bit Torrent working under linux!"
.torrent.
I had the same problem, so what I do is just run the python scripts directly to make them download the
Run this in your Bit Torrent dir:
btdownloadheadless.py --display_interval 5 --url http://www.url.org/file.torrent
Not the best solution out there, but one that works for me.
I am a filthy pirate.
Hi,
I'm on a Windows machine running Quicktime 6.2. How do I view the movie fullscreen?
The full screen option seems to be disabled. Why?
AC
Since the first movie, I hoped they were going to explain the machines keeping the humans around and using them as a form energy with a twist on Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics.
If the machines were bound by laws similar to the three laws of robotics, which forces them to keep the human race alive, the Matrix offers a good way to control humans and maintain those laws.
The powerplant can be seen from an efficiancy standpoint. The humans are consuming energy in their use of the Matrix, why not try to reclaim some of that energy to run the system?
The machines then run primarally from other energy sources, such as geothermal, tidal, and wind.
Many have complained about the perpetuation of the battery story. For me, it's a real serious blow to see it confirmed.
I always wondered to myself, "how could people who could write such a cool movie put in something as stupid as the battery story? If so, how did it get past everybody who saw the script or rushes?"
It made no sense. Small as it may seem, it takes the movie down several notches in my book, and the book of anybody with an education.
So I started thinking to myself -- maybe they aren't so stupid. Maybe Morpheus is LYING. Maybe Morpheus has been lied to, and we'll get a cool story of the reason behind the lie.
But no, if these animated shorts are canon, neither of these are true. Sure, movies have bad science all the time but the best movies in part make their mark either by not having the bad science, or by there being an obvious dramatic reason for the bad science. Sure, spaceships don't whoosh, but we accept it because it's fun and more dramatic in a space opera. Sure, you can't go FTL but you can't have interstellar SF that's dramatic without it.
But this battery thing has no excuse. It's as interchangeable with any other reason you might come up with for the humans to be kept alive. It doesn't affect the plot, all we need to care is that they are being kept alive and there is some reason.
Like the Hyperion reason, or a core bit of Asimovian twisted-first-law programming forcing them to keep the Humans alive and happy, with the Matrix being the makes-sense-only-to-the-AIs result. That would make more sense, and in fact be far more tragic than the battery story.
Grrrrrr.
Has it been over a year since you last donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Do they not have spellcheckers in the Matrix universe?
so how old is the "new" matrix? like the one that Neo woke up from?
in "detective story" we can see that the matrix is some quasi-futuristic environment, and trinity is a part of it. does that mean that she lived through the upload of the new, contemporary matrix?
If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
Glowurm writes: "I am not new to Anime, but am not a completely junkie fan either. I have my favorites, and enjoy a few here and there while recognizing the contribution of certain films to the genre. For instance, while I understand the value of Akira, it seemed primitive to me, as the artwork was oddly stylized and rough."
"I've enjoyed 'Urotsokidoji,' 'Lain,' and a number of other series, but have found few that rival the epic, apocalyptic feeling of 'The Animatrix' which is also felt in films such as 'Terminator 2.' What else, in anime, fills these shoes?"
What are the machines doing with all of the power? Where is the explaination for that? Why haven't they cleaned up the world? If we instilled in them our spirit why don't they move out into space? Where are they getting all of the raw materials to make these vastly hugh creatures? How's that for some questions?
After reading a particular article in the Matrix philosophy section, I've gotten a little less annoyed with the bio-electric power, because they put more emphasis on telling a story and seeding discussion. --although I still occasionally get knee-jerk desires to yell out, "OMG that's so BS," at the "bioelectric" energy plot-hole/saver(?). One possiblity: The machines, following the "essence of the second renaissance", chose to "bless all forms of intelligence" and preserve humanity for ethical[?] reasons and subsequently did something useful with the human "flesh" the machines had demanded from the people at the United Nations HQ(?) --sounds like a Computer Lifeform's Burden argued for by the human rights faction of the artificial intelligence collective =D[1]
Maybe he film producers are well aware that people don't generate power, but they're trying to show that people are always getting used for power today (politically) and in the future (elecrically [electronically]?) Human-brains-as-computing-source plot device wasn't used, emphasizing that the machines could do all the processing "needed", relegating humans to --exceedingly-- menial power generating duties, a form of role reversal showing how far man had fallen from their earlier thought-of-as superior position.
After all, having "long studied man's, simple, protein based based" bodies, the machines could have engineered blocks of cancer-like bioelectric flesh superior in most ways to the human-power-cells for their power duties because the blocks reproduce, come in adjustable shapes, and are very very unlikely to rebel [al la Neo] ;) ) But, they'd be boring, they'd kill the "save the enslaved masses" plot, and wouldn't be as ironic *heh*
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[1]All quotes occur near the section where a machine intelligence is meeting with human leaders in Second Renaissance Part 2 before the building blows up like Neo Tokyo in Akira
If you watch the trailer for the entire series only the second renaissance one explain any history. The other seven are all just unrelated stories in the matrix world. However buying the dvd would be worth it so you don't have to pay money to see the Animatrices that come before shitty movies like Dreamcatcher. All the ones that will be released on the internet have been, the other five will be shorts before movies, as was Flight of the Osiris, which was the CG one before Dreamcatcher.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal, Clerks
...because of you!
I wonder why the file has a different size than the one I had, and why it has a timestamp of May 1 09:59 instead of Feb 4 18:00.
Oh well, I wish they would call the files animatrix1.mov animatrix2.mov animatrix3.mov animatrix4.mov instead of some "final_dl" bullshit.
Is it just my bad memory or in the movie doesn't morpheus say something along the lines of "we don't know who started the war...." to neo when he is explaining the matrix. However in the second renaissance it implies humans started the war and if it's taken from a Zion archive why didn't morpheus know about it? and why doesn't this animatrix explain the prefect matrix that humans didn't accept?
...in the latest episode, "Second Renaissance II", we plucky humans drop nuclear weapons on "Zero One"; however, the machines survive as they aren't prone to the effects of radiation.
Be that as it may, but nukes tend to throw out a lot of heat; but even still, this is not my point... AFAIK they also emit a massive EMP discharge, which
I sure hope someone was fired for that one ;)
Christopher Harrison
It might be that the robots have some sort of artifact in their programming they can't get rid of, that keeps them from committing genocide. They can't let the humans starve, but the energy cost to feed them is too much to keep their own civilization running as well... Unless they recapture as much of that energy as possible...
Assuming there's an answer to that, I didn't really anticipate the machines capturing full-grown human beings and placing them in the Matrix. This may be more of just a mistaken assumption on my part, but I always figured that the machines wouldn't even bother trying to insert humans used to the real world into the Matrix- that they would readily reject the simulation. If someone like Neo, who had been born inside the Matrix and had no idea of what the actual state of the world was until he woke up in a vat of pink goo, could exist in the Matrix (prior to being set free) and feel that there was something wrong with reality ("splinter in your mind"), then surely at least some adult humans who had lived in the bombed out hell of the real world, who had watched as the machines took over, who writhed and screamed as the machines drilled a dozen holes into their bodies, would perhaps have a difficult time accepting the sunny new version of "reality" that confronted them. Especially since, according to the film, Matrix ver. 1.0 wasn't terribly believable anyway.
I guess I just figured that if the robots have that swank artifical womb technology, they could just extract gametes from captured humans and use those to produce embryos, which at the appropriate size are hooked up to the powerplant. Given that a few captured humans could each provide enough gametes to potentially produce thousands of offspring, it would be possible to breed numerous large crops from a relatively small pool of humans, with plenty of sperm and ova tucked away in cold storage just in case of crop failure (which of course happened, according to the film). Attempting to place adult humans in the Matrix as the first generation would not only be difficult, it would be totally unnecessary. A better use for the humans that were captured (once an appropriate amount of genetic material was gathered) would be simply to liquefy them and feed them to their progeny. Admittedly, the idea of forcing captured humans into the Matrix does have the whole humiliation and subjugation thing working for it.
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There's no sun light no more. Robots ain't so good with making food into energy. Humans seem to do that just fine. Robots are putting the human's intestines and junk to work converting foot->heat->electricity
Not so much a battery as a generator running on non-renewable energy.
I don't think that this is as good as the first. The biggest flaw is saying the robots where not effected by heat or radiation from our nukes. Well BFD! The EM pulse from all those nukes would have a large effect, but that is not even mentioned. I mean they made a whoe James Bond movie about it people!
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All military hardware today is shielded against EMP. I would think sentient robots 200 years from now would also be aware of their own weaknesses and be shielded as well.
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Did anyone else feel really depressed after watching this? Machines taking over earth and all. Heheh...
This is the most intelligent perspective I've seen.
In this episode of the Animatrix, humanity tries to A-bomb the machines into submission. Since we already know that the machines can be disabled with an electromagnetic pulse, why didn't humanity just detonate an A-bomb in the upper atmosphere, a la Goldeneye (an effect based in science, I assure you), and thusly disable the machines without having to resort to blocking out the sun? After all, that would be just as harmful to humanity as it would be to machines.
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>That is a major plot hole for me,
No, the energy stuff is called a McGuffin. A Mcguffin is anything in a movie that keeps the plot going. For instance a super-secret agent chasing down a beautiful super-model who is also a super secret agent because she's carrying the microfilm. What's on the microfilm? It doesn't matter.
So the writers needed a reason to keep the Matrix going, or the machines would just kill the humans and be done with it. Other acceptable alternatives would be to examine their strange minds, keep them in a zoo, morally against genocide, etc. Who cares? Energy works just as well.
A plot hole happens when parts of the movie are so badly edited that an event happens which doesnt fit in with the rest of the linear story. Or more rarely when the story was just bad to begin with.
> They still don't explain how a human in itself can generate more energy than it costs to maintain that very same human alive and well in the Matrix.
You forgot to add your Professor Frink noise after the end of that sentence.
Try these for Quicktime: (register in control panel or during install)
Name: Steve Jobs
Company: Apple
KRDP-9WG6-N4L9-8UZK-CORE
or
Name: Steve Jobs
Company: Apple
LDAU-NDCN-6D86-WRLU-5678
or
Name: Quicktime User
Company:Quicktime User
UDUR-GGCZ-NRAP-UR4D-5678
QuickTime v6.0 Name: Quicktime User (win):UDUR-GGCZ-NRAP-UR4D-5678 (mac):Z684-9ZDD-U86D-KCGC-B760
i dunno about this file as i'm a 56k-er but the previous files all work with Xine and the QT6 codecs available from the mplayer web site, extract them to /usr/lib/win32 and away you go - quite easy really ;-)
Isn't this how The Transformers were created. Thier creators, the Quintessons created simple robot servants. The servants were then later modifed to become a work force of both soldier and worker. Later, these machines became sentient and demanded rights. These machines then overthrew their creators and were the masters of their down destiny. The Transformers were not greater or more important than thier creators.
Thank you. Following those instructions got me video, but the audio still doesn't work, and I have to run with either no sound (mplayer -audiofile /dev/null) or crash on the 1st frame. Do you know the magic files to download for the audio portion?
Perhaps some kind of head-to-head comparison would be interesting.
faad2 is the audio codec, there are debs if your a debian person available.
Most of the reasons for everything in the matrix are obfuscated. It's all part of how the machines control people. It seems to me that the reason that people in the matrix can sometimes alter it is because most of the computational power used to generate the dreamworld is the brainpower of the people trapped in it. Notice how Trinity asks for a program to be loaded into her brain by her operator. Little things like spoons can be passed from one mind to another, but an agent program is so big that it takes a whole human brain. The reverse is also true. Human minds connected to the matrix have some of their thoughts computed outside of their bodies. Thats why they only need the strong network link when they are entering, and leaving. Most of the time they don't need their physical brain all that much, because they can borrow little bits here and there. They do need a home base though to keep track of everything. Sort of like a file allocation table. If you have your conciousness fragmented all over a network you need something to glue it togeather. Additionaly humans aren't hurt by EMP, so humans are a good place to backup code. Of course I could be seeing things the the authors didn't indend in an effort to make sense of it all.