I graduated Jan 2002 with CS degree from a big university in Boston area, (let's not mention the name), and moved to San Jose area around Jan 2002 and haven't been able to find the lowest job in the IT food chain jobs. The recession sucks. Damn it.
I personally think Certs are for "many" people who want short cuts, and therefore are very much interested in having IT jobs with a lot of money but really doesn't have a clue about computing. Many of them just don't have any real interests in computer technologies but only in the dollar signs. I just got pissed off at these people and the H1B people because I worked so damn hard in college to learn as much as possible the in's and out's of computer technologies and can't even find a job. By the way, I had a summer internship with a big name company, a couple of IT jobs at my school, and took almost all of the graduate classes for graduate students while I was still an undergrad. I graduated with way above 3.0 GPA both on my major or accummulated. I do use a variety of OS systems, and write this while in my Linux box (I find it really funny that some CS students don't ever even bother to try Linux/Unix and they consider themselves CS people. They miss out.) . I am not like one of those monkey coders. I do know how to program and know my shit. I know more than the average CS graduated BA students at my school and other schools. Not only that, I've tried to acquire or at least become familiar with a variety of skills because I read the damn good book "The Pragmatic Programmer". I have true interests in computer technologies and have invested tons of money to buy so many O'Reiley books and other technical books beside my school textbooks. I have spent so many hours to set up/play with this and that.
Anyway, I haven't even bothered to look for jobs for the last month or so, it is just pointless. The hiring managers are blinded deaf illiterate suckers. The HR people are unbelievable dummies and have no idea of what the people they are hiring doing. I just don't understand why companies place hiring decisions on these HR people while they can't even tell the differences between C and C++. I agree with some of the comments in this thread of messages. I believe the companies are better off to hire people who are passionate about computer technologies because they will live and breathe with them. These people in the long run will make excellent contributions to the companies' growths, but make sure hire the ones who know their shits, and don't base on the Certs. With or without Certs, these passionate for computer technologies people will always come out on top on their respective computing fields.
Peace out to the unemployed recent CS graduate students. Sorry for ranting.
Last but not least, I virtually don't have any contacts or connections here, how do I even ever find a job in my field? I just don't want to go to work for no brainer jobs.
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I graduated Jan 2002 with CS degree from a big university in Boston area, (let's not mention the name), and moved to San Jose area around Jan 2002 and haven't been able to find the lowest job in the IT food chain jobs. The recession sucks. Damn it.
I personally think Certs are for "many" people who want short cuts, and therefore are very much interested in having IT jobs with a lot of money but really doesn't have a clue about computing. Many of them just don't have any real interests in computer technologies but only in the dollar signs. I just got pissed off at these people and the H1B people because I worked so damn hard in college to learn as much as possible the in's and out's of computer technologies and can't even find a job. By the way, I had a summer internship with a big name company, a couple of IT jobs at my school, and took almost all of the graduate classes for graduate students while I was still an undergrad. I graduated with way above 3.0 GPA both on my major or accummulated. I do use a variety of OS systems, and write this while in my Linux box (I find it really funny that some CS students don't ever even bother to try Linux/Unix and they consider themselves CS people. They miss out.) . I am not like one of those monkey coders. I do know how to program and know my shit. I know more than the average CS graduated BA students at my school and other schools. Not only that, I've tried to acquire or at least become familiar with a variety of skills because I read the damn good book "The Pragmatic Programmer". I have true interests in computer technologies and have invested tons of money to buy so many O'Reiley books and other technical books beside my school textbooks. I have spent so many hours to set up/play with this and that.
Anyway, I haven't even bothered to look for jobs for the last month or so, it is just pointless. The hiring managers are blinded deaf illiterate suckers. The HR people are unbelievable dummies and have no idea of what the people they are hiring doing. I just don't understand why companies place hiring decisions on these HR people while they can't even tell the differences between C and C++. I agree with some of the comments in this thread of messages. I believe the companies are better off to hire people who are passionate about computer technologies because they will live and breathe with them. These people in the long run will make excellent contributions to the companies' growths, but make sure hire the ones who know their shits, and don't base on the Certs. With or without Certs, these passionate for computer technologies people will always come out on top on their respective computing fields.
Peace out to the unemployed recent CS graduate students. Sorry for ranting.
Last but not least, I virtually don't have any contacts or connections here, how do I even ever find a job in my field? I just don't want to go to work for no brainer jobs.