In practise it could be espionage, but so is Echelon and they are getting away with it. What really concerns me is that when the USA do this, the rest of the world may follow this takes of wisdom.
I also wonder if they are not breaking any human rights if they go forward with this, maybe a lawyer or someone connected to human rights could explain it to me.
The difference is that knowledge in today's world is power, spiderman isn't.
I don't mind paying to see a movie, but if i have to start paying to have information that should be publicly avaiable to any researcher then we are limiting the brains that could contribute to better development.
Hell... thinking about it, that's maybe why there are so many spell checking errors in slashdot, you probably have to pay to have access to spellchecking information.
This ain't no script kiddie. This is a guy who knows too much and it's making a living out of this, or maybe it's hungry at the world because he doesn't have a job.
This is problably the same guy who owned OpenBSD site, OpenSSL site, dsniff site and maybe other we don't know yet.
The admins of the sites I mention should be (and i think they are) responsible and capable people. Maybe a kiddie could own one of those machines because of a stupid error (it happens to all of us) but i doubt that all the admins did the same error.
They should be able to do more than the US government did...
If we were talking about an EU based company, yes they could do several things, beeing MS an American company there isn't much to do.
Of course they could always say: "If you want to sell Windows in Europe you have to get rid of that IE, that Media Player, that Outlook and every crappy software you bundle with Windows."
What has WINE got to do with it? Wine does not run various Win32-based applications.
WineX on the other hand let's you run WarCraft, I don't know about M$ Office, I didn't find the time to test it, I had more, erm... interesting things to do? *g*
I don't have any Pope in my office right now, at least i hope not... if he go tells my boss i'm reading slashdot instead of doing real work i am totally screwed!
Let the Pope have the rest of his life, he has plenty to worry about with all those priests abusing children.
BTW, why would anyone cared about the Pope? Don't people have people more important to worry about? Like... themselfes, their fathers, their children?
Redistibuting this document in the USA may be a criminal offence under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act with punishment including jail sentences. Attempting to test these holes in the USA, even with the permission of the system owner may be an offence. Discussing this document with a US citizen may be an offence.
Ok ladies and gentleman... talking about this stuff eh? Sign your name below, you're all under arrest!
It's not that revenues are not big for Linux that is the problem... you wouldn't even expect them to be great. The problem is:
According to market research firm IDC, Linux sales declined nearly 5 percent in 2001 to $80 million, but are expected to grow to a $280 million market in 2006.
Meanwhile, Windows sales climbed 11 percent to more than $10 billion last year, according to IDC analyst Al Gillen.
Now... are we getting worried? Are we just loosing the battle because there is more bandwidth? Weird... isn't there more ways not to buy M$ products too?
Better we should all think about this...
Of course we can still not give a shit about this and keep looking at our ego... after all, we are all so great aren't we?
Will it become illegal to install SP3 for W2K and have a firewall that blocks Windows Update?
Hey Microsoft... you've been shooting yourself so many times in the foot for over a year... just get the gun and blow your head off... do us all a favor !
Why does the community has to be a pain in the ass?
Well... that's problably the same reason that users are a pain in the ass to admins... you don't know why... they just are, still i love to be a sys admin:)
Unless you owe me money and don't pay me cause you're dead... i don't see it how it is my problem... i hope you don't spend my tax money for *your* funeral or something, then i would be pissed:P
It is not my government. I am not an US citizen, why should i trust it?
They want control? Let them control the.US domain name, let the rest be regulated by the Internet itself, if we don't find a good way to do that, well, let it be like it is.
Slashdot Mirror
People can still buy stuff from walmart... is it graffiti now?
I also wonder if they are not breaking any human rights if they go forward with this, maybe a lawyer or someone connected to human rights could explain it to me.
It's not a reason not to have one of course.
Geez...
I don't mind paying to see a movie, but if i have to start paying to have information that should be publicly avaiable to any researcher then we are limiting the brains that could contribute to better development. Hell... thinking about it, that's maybe why there are so many spell checking errors in slashdot, you probably have to pay to have access to spellchecking information.
Normally a md5 checksum is stored in a different server... or at least it should be,
This is problably the same guy who owned OpenBSD site, OpenSSL site, dsniff site and maybe other we don't know yet.
The admins of the sites I mention should be (and i think they are) responsible and capable people. Maybe a kiddie could own one of those machines because of a stupid error (it happens to all of us) but i doubt that all the admins did the same error.
What do you mean "draw the line"? I have the patent for that, if you want to draw a line start opening your wallet.
If I had to buy a browser you can bet I wouldn't buy IE. Open Source would win!
If we were talking about an EU based company, yes they could do several things, beeing MS an American company there isn't much to do.
Of course they could always say: "If you want to sell Windows in Europe you have to get rid of that IE, that Media Player, that Outlook and every crappy software you bundle with Windows."
WineX on the other hand let's you run WarCraft, I don't know about M$ Office, I didn't find the time to test it, I had more, erm... interesting things to do?
*g*
If they are in business it's because there is (you guessed it) profit. I know the times are hard for investment, but it doesn't make it impossible.
I don't have any Pope in my office right now, at least i hope not... if he go tells my boss i'm reading slashdot instead of doing real work i am totally screwed!
Let the Pope have the rest of his life, he has plenty to worry about with all those priests abusing children.
BTW, why would anyone cared about the Pope? Don't people have people more important to worry about? Like... themselfes, their fathers, their children?
I feel mislead!
Digital Millenium Copyright Act with punishment including jail sentences.
Attempting to test these holes in the USA, even with the permission of the
system owner may be an offence. Discussing this document with a US citizen
may be an offence.
Ok ladies and gentleman... talking about this stuff eh? Sign your name below, you're all under arrest!
According to market research firm IDC, Linux sales declined nearly 5 percent in 2001 to $80 million, but are expected to grow to a $280 million market in 2006.
Meanwhile, Windows sales climbed 11 percent to more than $10 billion last year, according to IDC analyst Al Gillen.
Now
Better we should all think about this...
Of course we can still not give a shit about this and keep looking at our ego... after all, we are all so great aren't we?
Hey Microsoft... you've been shooting yourself so many times in the foot for over a year... just get the gun and blow your head off... do us all a favor !
Bugtraq is not the only one in the world you know?
eheh, sorry, reading the article and replying a post at the same time is not a good thing :)
Well... that's problably the same reason that users are a pain in the ass to admins... you don't know why... they just are, still i love to be a sys admin :)
Wear the damn t-shirt... the good thing about freedom is that you are free to be an idiot.
They want control? Let them control the .US domain name, let the rest be regulated by the Internet itself, if we don't find a good way to do that, well, let it be like it is.