It's hopeless. Copying is taking. It's called 'taking a copy' sometimes. Sometimes used in phrases like 'take a photograph of that chair.'
It doesn't matter if the original still exists. In a digital world where copies can be digitally perfect, what you do when you 'take' an unauthorized copy is you dilute the value of the original, and authorized copies. If I do a bit of work that is output as a digital bitstream (music, text, or a picture, for instance) and I assign a value to the work (which I am entitled to do unless you're gonna impose a socialist value system on me), I get to decide how and where it is disseminated.
'md' in MS-DOS is shorthand for mkdir. The 'mkdir' command also works.
If you want to see awkward and unintuitive, look at the CP/M that DOS copied. There wasn't a built-in dir command, which meant that you could have floppies on a single floppy CP/M system that you couldn't list the directory of (if they didn't have the binary program on them to run.) And the copy command was called 'pip' and had arcane syntax.
Just like real estate 'property' (i.e. land), or commercial 'property' (that big Sharp Copying Machine by the break room) depend on social constructs to be considered property, intellectal 'property' depends on social constructs. All three are 'property' and all three can be stolen.
I swear, all the intellectual handwaving that goes on these days by people who can't grasp the concept of copyright is staggering.
And all over the 'right' to listen to crappy tunes and imbibe in drivel mass market 'culture.' It's really a pitiful thing.
Actually, most Linux/Unix features seem more 'sophistcated'. It is better planned, not laid out for purely commercial reasons. But because it depends not on public acceptance, but rather the whims of the narrow elite who wield it, it has difficult achiving mass appeal.
The fact that it can be freely copied isn't going to 'save' Linux. Looking on the title page to my copy of 'J.V. Stalin- Works Volume 7, 1925' I don't see a copyright there either. Just 'Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow, 1954'. No copyright.
It's some some of the usual stuff dragged over here to Slashdot from C.O.L.A.*
This kind of 'testimonial' (testify, brotha!) is their meat and potatoes over there in the nutty regions of the net. Yes, there are places online where people flame and rant about Linux and their love/hate relationships with Micro$oft that make this website seem calm!
You can steal things that have no monetary value at all. You could, for instance, steal our dog's rawhide bone. It would still be stealing, even though it has little or no value.
This notion people have that it's not possible to steal something unless it can be assigned a dollar value reeks of ignorance.
the turning of SCO into something like an IP brokerage firm
Sounds a lot like what Ray Noorda did when he bought DR-DOS solely to have the right to sue evile Micro$oft. Of course that was part of the good fight against Microsoft. Yay Noorda!!!
Because of the lawsuit your company has filed against IBM, we have decided not to purchase this software
Umm, SCO isn't really a sterling example of a successful business at this point in time, but: Do you seriously think they should worry about doing business with a little bitty entity that's gonna get all shrill and boycotty because of political ideology regarding IP rights?
how do you expect companies to purchase products from you without fear of a future lawsuit against another company for IP infringement?
Your company was planning to steal SCO code and inject it into an OSS project?
how is suing the largest and wealthiest company working with Linux fundamental to your strategy?
I am not an expert regarding this case by any means, but it should be obvious that SCO is suing IBM, and not some other party to Linux, because IBM is the entity that supposedly put the infracting code into the Linux source tree. I mean.... duh!
I recommend you try some dry lubricant on that shift key, bucko. It's sticking for entire words and phrases. You might also want to look at the screen while you're typing, and remember to review your comments before submitting.
And: you're not a Republican. Did the DNC fax say this is the week to claim you're a Republican and claim Ashcroft is a Nazi??
there are roughly 1200 people who have in fact 'disappeared' from the U.S. who are believed to have been removed by INS or DOJ in the past year and a half.
Believed by whom? By crackpots on a conspiracy theory newsgroup, and some leftist organization that needed bullet points on a fundraising brochure to scare the liberals into donating??
Amazingly so, in the countries where this 'disappear' stuff does happen, there aren't big forums like slashdot and 'alternative' news organizations allowed to spread the alarm. So we really don't have to worry until all the ranting goes silent.
America is supposed to be the Home of the Free and Land of the Brave. At least it was until the last few years.
What's really frightening is that with maroons like you running around saying things like that, you make it easy for people to get used to the idea of our freedom diminishing.
Then another election will come, Democrats will come to power, and the bureaucrats in the Federal government will be emboldened to actually do all those things again, like last time they were in power, that will amount to a decline in freedom.
Want freedom? You want less government. It's really that simple.
If he's lucky he'll get better "support" than the kind that left Kevin locked up for five years.
You mean maybe he'll hire a qualified attorney and listen to him, unlike Kevin, who played legal fuck-around and got his own trial date pushed back, in effect imprisioning himself for an extra year or so before his trial through his own legal idiocy?
There is No Such Thing as a 'popular vote' for President of the United States. We are a country composed of 50 seperate states, each of which tabulates a total. There is no 'official' Popular Vote total taken. All that amounts to is a bunch of journalists running around tabulating the popular vote totals for each state.
Not that it matters. You types would be smug and gleeful if the near 50/50 election had gone your way. And we'd be stuck with an algore in the White House. Remember when that survellience plane got shot down by the Chinese? Gore probably would have surrended the whole fleet to China with remorse.
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Actually, my VT-220 terminal doesn't have an escape key on it's keyboard. It sorta pisses me off.
The defintion of FUD comes to mind here.
And it's not that tragic that SCO is now being exposed to a FUD campaign. But that's what it boils down to being in the end.
It's hopeless. Copying is taking. It's called 'taking a copy' sometimes. Sometimes used in phrases like 'take a photograph of that chair.'
It doesn't matter if the original still exists. In a digital world where copies can be digitally perfect, what you do when you 'take' an unauthorized copy is you dilute the value of the original, and authorized copies. If I do a bit of work that is output as a digital bitstream (music, text, or a picture, for instance) and I assign a value to the work (which I am entitled to do unless you're gonna impose a socialist value system on me), I get to decide how and where it is disseminated.
That's just how it works. Deal with it.
Wave your hand around some more.
It looks more like flatfish from COLA.
Does Rex Ballard ever come here?
'md' in MS-DOS is shorthand for mkdir. The 'mkdir' command also works.
If you want to see awkward and unintuitive, look at the CP/M that DOS copied. There wasn't a built-in dir command, which meant that you could have floppies on a single floppy CP/M system that you couldn't list the directory of (if they didn't have the binary program on them to run.) And the copy command was called 'pip' and had arcane syntax.
It's a COLA troll. I never thought a COLA troll, particularly a pro-M$ (Micros~1!!!(hee!!)) one, would make the front page of Slashdot.
Desperate for banner impressions, Malda? It shows.
Just like real estate 'property' (i.e. land), or commercial 'property' (that big Sharp Copying Machine by the break room) depend on social constructs to be considered property, intellectal 'property' depends on social constructs. All three are 'property' and all three can be stolen.
I swear, all the intellectual handwaving that goes on these days by people who can't grasp the concept of copyright is staggering.
And all over the 'right' to listen to crappy tunes and imbibe in drivel mass market 'culture.' It's really a pitiful thing.
Actually, most Linux/Unix features seem more 'sophistcated'. It is better planned, not laid out for purely commercial reasons. But because it depends not on public acceptance, but rather the whims of the narrow elite who wield it, it has difficult achiving mass appeal.
The fact that it can be freely copied isn't going to 'save' Linux. Looking on the title page to my copy of 'J.V. Stalin- Works Volume 7, 1925' I don't see a copyright there either. Just 'Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow, 1954'. No copyright.
It's some some of the usual stuff dragged over here to Slashdot from C.O.L.A.*
This kind of 'testimonial' (testify, brotha!) is their meat and potatoes over there in the nutty regions of the net. Yes, there are places online where people flame and rant about Linux and their love/hate relationships with Micro$oft that make this website seem calm!
(* the comp.os.linux.advocacy newsgroup)
Actually, the rules are set up by our government, which we've elected.
You can steal things that have no monetary value at all. You could, for instance, steal our dog's rawhide bone. It would still be stealing, even though it has little or no value.
This notion people have that it's not possible to steal something unless it can be assigned a dollar value reeks of ignorance.
the turning of SCO into something like an IP brokerage firm
Sounds a lot like what Ray Noorda did when he bought DR-DOS solely to have the right to sue evile Micro$oft. Of course that was part of the good fight against Microsoft. Yay Noorda!!!
Because of the lawsuit your company has filed against IBM, we have decided not to purchase this software
Umm, SCO isn't really a sterling example of a successful business at this point in time, but: Do you seriously think they should worry about doing business with a little bitty entity that's gonna get all shrill and boycotty because of political ideology regarding IP rights?
how do you expect companies to purchase products from you without fear of a future lawsuit against another company for IP infringement?
Your company was planning to steal SCO code and inject it into an OSS project?
Naw. When the ranting starts is time to start sending in the donations in envelopes.
Quicklike now! The copier in the main office doesn't have all the features we'd like it to, and we need new rubber tree plants in the ACLU lobby!
how is suing the largest and wealthiest company working with Linux fundamental to your strategy?
I am not an expert regarding this case by any means, but it should be obvious that SCO is suing IBM, and not some other party to Linux, because IBM is the entity that supposedly put the infracting code into the Linux source tree. I mean.... duh!
Shockingly, none of that appears to have happened in this instance.
Unless this discussion topic, the rant site in his honor, and the news articles are a figment of my imagaination....
Why is the ACLU quiting the Washington Post as hard evidence. The Washington Post should be citing ACLU figures, not the reverse.
Or is this again one of those cases where they cite each other?
It's pretty offensive that you're equating Jews with terrorists.
I suppose the saying could be redone with 'burglar' instead of Jew, too.
I recommend you try some dry lubricant on that shift key, bucko. It's sticking for entire words and phrases. You might also want to look at the screen while you're typing, and remember to review your comments before submitting.
And: you're not a Republican. Did the DNC fax say this is the week to claim you're a Republican and claim Ashcroft is a Nazi??
Well, some would say that pretty much anybody trapped in a dead end WalMart job is a 'detainee' of sorts.
there are roughly 1200 people who have in fact 'disappeared' from the U.S. who are believed to have been removed by INS or DOJ in the past year and a half.
Believed by whom? By crackpots on a conspiracy theory newsgroup, and some leftist organization that needed bullet points on a fundraising brochure to scare the liberals into donating??
Amazingly so, in the countries where this 'disappear' stuff does happen, there aren't big forums like slashdot and 'alternative' news organizations allowed to spread the alarm. So we really don't have to worry until all the ranting goes silent.
America is supposed to be the Home of the Free and Land of the Brave. At least it was until the last few years.
What's really frightening is that with maroons like you running around saying things like that, you make it easy for people to get used to the idea of our freedom diminishing.
Then another election will come, Democrats will come to power, and the bureaucrats in the Federal government will be emboldened to actually do all those things again, like last time they were in power, that will amount to a decline in freedom.
Want freedom? You want less government. It's really that simple.
If he's lucky he'll get better "support" than the kind that left Kevin locked up for five years.
You mean maybe he'll hire a qualified attorney and listen to him, unlike Kevin, who played legal fuck-around and got his own trial date pushed back, in effect imprisioning himself for an extra year or so before his trial through his own legal idiocy?
I think you're using that other definition of hacker again. The one that people like ESR wish you wouldn't.
Mitnick was a deceitful little smarm. One of those credit card hustlers, just with a little more intelligence than the average deceptive creep.
He was never a part of the classic 'hackers community' that did things like, oh, bring up the BSDs, etc.
There is No Such Thing as a 'popular vote' for President of the United States. We are a country composed of 50 seperate states, each of which tabulates a total. There is no 'official' Popular Vote total taken. All that amounts to is a bunch of journalists running around tabulating the popular vote totals for each state.
Not that it matters. You types would be smug and gleeful if the near 50/50 election had gone your way. And we'd be stuck with an algore in the White House. Remember when that survellience plane got shot down by the Chinese? Gore probably would have surrended the whole fleet to China with remorse.