It's right in the name of the company. It's shocking how many people whine about IBM 'software' or 'hardware' like either is a primary focus of the company.
It is sort of ironic that Linux people seem to favor a reverse-engineered Microsoft "protocol" that's not written down anywhere over a mature documented protocol that was born on Unix. I use NFS lots of places on my home network. It's the easiest way there is to install NetBSD on a machine with just a floppy diskette.
I was sort of wondering about the '300 boxes' order myself.
Is Microsoft allowed to choose how big the boxes are? It seems almost like the old days when I would be writing an english paper. I'd write a bunch, then start fiddling with the margins and font size to try to get it up to the requisite 6 pages in length.
Those were the days.... 9 pin dot matrix printers and Windows bitmap fonts....
Actually, if you look back in history, the free software types, hackers and geeks were fiercly opposed to Apple's look-n-feel lawsuits. Apple tried to monopolize the concept. They ran some of the competitors out of the market, i.e. the GEM desktop. Microsoft stood up to them and established the legal precedent by which people now copy Microsoft elements. Yes, Microsoft paid the legal bill that prevents them from suing people who 'clone' the Windows graphical look and feel.
I know it would be risky to try to point out Microsoft as a 'good guy' in any context here, but they've generally adopted a corporate strategy of winning in the marketplace, not the courtroom. The Lindows lawsuit is unusual for them.
I am pretty sure that they will not want to go down in the history books as the first nation to land a corpse on Mars.
They can clean that up when they re-write the history books. Like the Soviets did with their 'first dog in space' instance, where the dog was cooked like a turkey in a microwave far sooner than the propaganda claimed.
Ummm, Sun's 64 bit architecture is mature enough now that I bought a first generation 64 bit Ultra 1 on eBay this past year for $60. I don't think Sun is going to be bowled over by the newcomers to the 64 bit market.
You'd never mistake an MS operating system for a Linux system, for example.
Actually, if you install the Interix POSIX subsystem on a Windows NT machine, it is a branded UNIX box. It has shells, and all the POSIX goodies all the way down to the layer where it talks to the NT kernal layer.
Interix used to be an independent product from Softway Systems, who licensed the NT source to produce their POSIX subsystem. It was bought by Microsoft who are slowly killing it off.
Since certification would involve some sort of source control and an inevitable source freeze, the company holding the frozen source and the binaries certified from it would have a significant upper hand.
No, no certification body is EVER going to certify 'Linux the moving target' and it's a ridiculous idea to think they would.
Anyone who has worked in high reliability software knows there's a source freeze and a formal release process. The code is tested as part of the certification process.
You're still arrogant and condescending for that title. And you're throwing around big expensive seven dollar words like freedom that have wildly different meanings in the many contexts they're used in.
It's okay, though. We all diddle around here under our psuedonyms and none of this matters much at all.
but the core ideas are exactly as they were back in 1976 when I used UNIX on a PDP-11.
Yes, and shoving all communications through a 'TTY' interface and adopting an ancient 'Time-Sharing' model for multi-user systems is archaic and dated. It might still be 'the best we have' but it positive reeks of legacy, and not legacy that's by any means the best method for use in modern software.
I like old stuff. I think old computers are cool and I restore them as a hobby.
Definitely not as a vocation, though.
Andy Tannenbaum was right way back in the early 90's. No amount of 'backfill' in the form of legacy croft obscures the truth that we live in a very kludged world.
It isn't clear what 'The Way Forward (tm)' is yet, and it's a real shame that Microsoft is even in the running.
No, it's safe to say that the 'Unix' in OS X is just held captive, a slave to the shiny colorful closed source that Apple threw on top of it. Sure, geeks can go down into the cellar to visit it, and it even does a lot of real work down there, but an OS X machine is no more a Unix box than an NT machine running Interix.
Do they include progman.exe in Windows XP? I'm never (or rather, not for a Looooong time) going to have XP on a system I own, but progman.exe is available all the way up to Windows 2000 for those who like the old Windows 3 interface. Use 'run' off the Start menu and type in 'progman' if you don't believe me. I don't know exactly how to disable explorer at startup on a W2K system, (I have several small win32 'ps' and 'kill' utils that work wonders, but that's after a system is up and running) but it was trivial to replace explorer.exe with progman.exe in the Windows 9x era.
(You just get a vestigal Windows Program Manager if you type the raw progman.exe command. You can manually build your groups and individual icons into the groups just like the olden days, though.)
Spam is an excellent way to data mine the tards who can be ripped off. So are those low-budget commercials on TV and telemarketing in general. A list of the 1% of the population most gullible is an EXTREMELY valuable thing to an experienced scammer.
I regularly attend a local 'real in-person' auction here that is held weekly and buy stuff that I resell on eBay. There have been a few instances where 'estates' have been liquidated where it's clear it was a dim old biddy who the scam marketeers had gotten to. Usually there are multiple boxes of that kind of shoddy merchandise crap that such businesses deal in. Cheap plastic do-dads, those 'miracle whatever' products you see on television. Often the items being sold in the estate sale are new and in the box. Sometimes it's obvious it had been going on for years.
Let's face it, it's sort of a generation-inheritance thing. Foolish old biddies whose husband handled all the finances are very, VERY gullible when widowed. The next generation at random, unless there are direct descendants looking after their parents, are bound to extract all that wealth. The only losers are we in the general tax base, who lose out on all that estate tax income that's been drained out.
Why should anybody care that someone was swindled out of 8.4 milli-pounds? That would be, like, 0.084 pounds, right? I get cheated out of that much if a gumball machine is jammed and doesn't dispense. It doesn't make the front page at Slashdot.
I own a Blue & White PowerMac... After doing a lot of research, I discovered that my PCI slots are basically useless. I can't put in a sound card,
Ummm, I don't have a history of being a pro-Apple person, but even *I* know that the high end PCI sound cards generally plug into a Mac or a PC and with the right software do a hell of a good job of sound editing. I just downloaded and archived all the latest drivers for my Delta 66 sound card last week and MacOS is well supported.
If you mean you can't go into CompUSA and buy commodity-crap sound cards and schlepp 'em into your Mac, that might be a different story.
Yes. You're so right. When there's an intruder in the Strategic Air Command system spawning processes to do all sorts of damage, it's highly essential that the admin chasing after him have the source code for the 3C905B ethernet driver ready at hand to thwart him with.
In actuality, a much more closed system, that isn't based on a time-sharing model would be far better. It's ridiculous to have every system everywhere implemented as multi-user. There's some merit to the people who run, say, an HTTPD on an old Macintosh, where there's no 'console' access at all unless you're sitting at the screen of the machine. Any intruder to that system needs a bolt cutter to gain access and it's very apparent what he's doing because he has to sit at the keyboard.
If Boeing distributes GPL'd code to the US Army it also must give any third party the source if they ask for it.
Well, they have to give it to any third party who receives the written offer, which was distributed with the binaries, which were given only to the US Army. So the Army can say 'well, this third party over here should get a copy of the source.... I think we'll take you up on your written offer.'
The fact that the source code, and the binaries exist does not mean that 'third parties' have received, or ever will receive, the written offer.
Written offers, you see, have to be written on something.
Naw. The DOD will take one tarball of Linux source code, test the hell out of it, make changes as necessary, and be on their merry way. You don't REALLY think that after testing the hell out of it they're going to pass their patches back out into the public codebase, then pull in the Linux source again and have to test the hell out of it again, do you?
They'll regression test the changes they make to what they started with, which will at that point they will have man-years of testing on, and roll foward. The DOD fork of Linux won't ever make it back onto the main 'branch.'
When I was 11ish, I met the first guy that programmed--
You weren't a very mature 11 year old, it seems. The first 'guy' that programmed was Ada Lovelace. Any boy even partway into puberty wouldn't mistake her for a 'guy' judging from the pictures in the historical record....
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IBM makes Machines to support business.
It's right in the name of the company. It's shocking how many people whine about IBM 'software' or 'hardware' like either is a primary focus of the company.
It is sort of ironic that Linux people seem to favor a reverse-engineered Microsoft "protocol" that's not written down anywhere over a mature documented protocol that was born on Unix. I use NFS lots of places on my home network. It's the easiest way there is to install NetBSD on a machine with just a floppy diskette.
I was sort of wondering about the '300 boxes' order myself.
Is Microsoft allowed to choose how big the boxes are? It seems almost like the old days when I would be writing an english paper. I'd write a bunch, then start fiddling with the margins and font size to try to get it up to the requisite 6 pages in length.
Those were the days.... 9 pin dot matrix printers and Windows bitmap fonts....
Why should the trademark name 'Apple' have been approved?
Why should any non-proper noun be allowed to be a trademark??
Actually, if you look back in history, the free software types, hackers and geeks were fiercly opposed to Apple's look-n-feel lawsuits. Apple tried to monopolize the concept. They ran some of the competitors out of the market, i.e. the GEM desktop. Microsoft stood up to them and established the legal precedent by which people now copy Microsoft elements. Yes, Microsoft paid the legal bill that prevents them from suing people who 'clone' the Windows graphical look and feel.
I know it would be risky to try to point out Microsoft as a 'good guy' in any context here, but they've generally adopted a corporate strategy of winning in the marketplace, not the courtroom. The Lindows lawsuit is unusual for them.
Emacs is.
I think there's an online term, 'flameboy', for people all rough and tough and huffy and ready to do war in their online personalities.
It's also doubtless the research of abnormal psychologists trying to find a cure.
I am pretty sure that they will not want to go down in the history books as the first nation to land a corpse on Mars.
They can clean that up when they re-write the history books. Like the Soviets did with their 'first dog in space' instance, where the dog was cooked like a turkey in a microwave far sooner than the propaganda claimed.
Ummm, Sun's 64 bit architecture is mature enough now that I bought a first generation 64 bit Ultra 1 on eBay this past year for $60. I don't think Sun is going to be bowled over by the newcomers to the 64 bit market.
You'd never mistake an MS operating system for a Linux system, for example.
Actually, if you install the Interix POSIX subsystem on a Windows NT machine, it is a branded UNIX box. It has shells, and all the POSIX goodies all the way down to the layer where it talks to the NT kernal layer.
Interix used to be an independent product from Softway Systems, who licensed the NT source to produce their POSIX subsystem. It was bought by Microsoft who are slowly killing it off.
No. Solaris is a branded UNIX. They filed the paperwork.
Linux is a kinda-sorta knockoff. Nobody even knows if it would be possible to file the paperwork. (who would pay, etc....)
Since certification would involve some sort of source control and an inevitable source freeze, the company holding the frozen source and the binaries certified from it would have a significant upper hand.
No, no certification body is EVER going to certify 'Linux the moving target' and it's a ridiculous idea to think they would.
Anyone who has worked in high reliability software knows there's a source freeze and a formal release process. The code is tested as part of the certification process.
You're still arrogant and condescending for that title. And you're throwing around big expensive seven dollar words like freedom that have wildly different meanings in the many contexts they're used in.
It's okay, though. We all diddle around here under our psuedonyms and none of this matters much at all.
but the core ideas are exactly as they were back in 1976 when I used UNIX on a PDP-11.
Yes, and shoving all communications through a 'TTY' interface and adopting an ancient 'Time-Sharing' model for multi-user systems is archaic and dated. It might still be 'the best we have' but it positive reeks of legacy, and not legacy that's by any means the best method for use in modern software.
I like old stuff. I think old computers are cool and I restore them as a hobby.
Definitely not as a vocation, though.
Andy Tannenbaum was right way back in the early 90's. No amount of 'backfill' in the form of legacy croft obscures the truth that we live in a very kludged world.
It isn't clear what 'The Way Forward (tm)' is yet, and it's a real shame that Microsoft is even in the running.
Nobody considers OS X a 'UNIX' except a few zealots, and Apple marketing when it'll fits the image they're trying to give off any particular week.
No, it's safe to say that the 'Unix' in OS X is just held captive, a slave to the shiny colorful closed source that Apple threw on top of it. Sure, geeks can go down into the cellar to visit it, and it even does a lot of real work down there, but an OS X machine is no more a Unix box than an NT machine running Interix.
Do they include progman.exe in Windows XP? I'm never (or rather, not for a Looooong time) going to have XP on a system I own, but progman.exe is available all the way up to Windows 2000 for those who like the old Windows 3 interface. Use 'run' off the Start menu and type in 'progman' if you don't believe me. I don't know exactly how to disable explorer at startup on a W2K system, (I have several small win32 'ps' and 'kill' utils that work wonders, but that's after a system is up and running) but it was trivial to replace explorer.exe with progman.exe in the Windows 9x era.
(You just get a vestigal Windows Program Manager if you type the raw progman.exe command. You can manually build your groups and individual icons into the groups just like the olden days, though.)
Spam is an excellent way to data mine the tards who can be ripped off. So are those low-budget commercials on TV and telemarketing in general. A list of the 1% of the population most gullible is an EXTREMELY valuable thing to an experienced scammer.
I regularly attend a local 'real in-person' auction here that is held weekly and buy stuff that I resell on eBay. There have been a few instances where 'estates' have been liquidated where it's clear it was a dim old biddy who the scam marketeers had gotten to. Usually there are multiple boxes of that kind of shoddy merchandise crap that such businesses deal in. Cheap plastic do-dads, those 'miracle whatever' products you see on television. Often the items being sold in the estate sale are new and in the box. Sometimes it's obvious it had been going on for years.
Let's face it, it's sort of a generation-inheritance thing. Foolish old biddies whose husband handled all the finances are very, VERY gullible when widowed. The next generation at random, unless there are direct descendants looking after their parents, are bound to extract all that wealth. The only losers are we in the general tax base, who lose out on all that estate tax income that's been drained out.
DAMN, I am being cynical this morning....
Does anybody know where I can find a link to that famous song from Handel's Messiah? It's my favorite song from that particular work.
The words start out:
"Oh we like sheep, have gone astray....."
Why should anybody care that someone was swindled out of 8.4 milli-pounds? That would be, like, 0.084 pounds, right? I get cheated out of that much if a gumball machine is jammed and doesn't dispense. It doesn't make the front page at Slashdot.
I own a Blue & White PowerMac... After doing a lot of research, I discovered that my PCI slots are basically useless. I can't put in a sound card,
Ummm, I don't have a history of being a pro-Apple person, but even *I* know that the high end PCI sound cards generally plug into a Mac or a PC and with the right software do a hell of a good job of sound editing. I just downloaded and archived all the latest drivers for my Delta 66 sound card last week and MacOS is well supported.
If you mean you can't go into CompUSA and buy commodity-crap sound cards and schlepp 'em into your Mac, that might be a different story.
Yes. You're so right. When there's an intruder in the Strategic Air Command system spawning processes to do all sorts of damage, it's highly essential that the admin chasing after him have the source code for the 3C905B ethernet driver ready at hand to thwart him with.
In actuality, a much more closed system, that isn't based on a time-sharing model would be far better. It's ridiculous to have every system everywhere implemented as multi-user. There's some merit to the people who run, say, an HTTPD on an old Macintosh, where there's no 'console' access at all unless you're sitting at the screen of the machine. Any intruder to that system needs a bolt cutter to gain access and it's very apparent what he's doing because he has to sit at the keyboard.
If Boeing distributes GPL'd code to the US Army it also must give any third party the source if they ask for it.
Well, they have to give it to any third party who receives the written offer, which was distributed with the binaries, which were given only to the US Army. So the Army can say 'well, this third party over here should get a copy of the source.... I think we'll take you up on your written offer.'
The fact that the source code, and the binaries exist does not mean that 'third parties' have received, or ever will receive, the written offer.
Written offers, you see, have to be written on something.
Naw. The DOD will take one tarball of Linux source code, test the hell out of it, make changes as necessary, and be on their merry way. You don't REALLY think that after testing the hell out of it they're going to pass their patches back out into the public codebase, then pull in the Linux source again and have to test the hell out of it again, do you?
They'll regression test the changes they make to what they started with, which will at that point they will have man-years of testing on, and roll foward. The DOD fork of Linux won't ever make it back onto the main 'branch.'
When I was 11ish, I met the first guy that programmed--
You weren't a very mature 11 year old, it seems. The first 'guy' that programmed was Ada Lovelace. Any boy even partway into puberty wouldn't mistake her for a 'guy' judging from the pictures in the historical record....