It sounds like a good idea for a moment, before you think about it. First of all, most web content is offered as free with no warranties or guarantees of anything. You surf at your own risk. Second, a person may go through hundreds of web sites in a day, and tens or hundreds of thousands of people may hit your site. Third, most people with any sense have some form of antivirus on their computers, and those that do not are either asking for it and they know it, or wouldn't know what to do if they did get a virus. In reality, virus protection is the responsibility of the user. True, it is absolutely insane that people have unprotected web sites out there, but since the web is a public forum, there is really no way to say who does what without limiting the "for all people" part of it. The web is a beautiful thing because it is open to everyone, regardless.
I don't know. The reason I wrote my comment was due to observation. I was outside the computer science department at a local junior college and overheard a discussion.. one kid was asking another kid where he could get an os for the computer he had just pieced together. The knowledeable kid suggested Linux...free and cool and it's against the evil empire Microsoft. Well, as far as I know, they went away and loaded Linux. If it happens once, how many times does it happen? I just remember back when I was in college and having this exact same discussion about Mac and Windows, and I proved my point by making a set of disks and handing them the guy arguing with me and said "do that with a mac". Of course, he could not.
Microsoft, the (one time) king of software, believes it's own BS. The fact of the matter is, whatever the kids (high school and college) use is where the industry is going. Forget TCO and stuff like this. Back in the days of Windows 3.1, you could easily make the installation disks, and give them to your school mates and buddies, and so all the local kids had a copy. Sure, Apple was in the schools, but kids couldn't afford Apple (Macintosh) OS, so people stayed with Microsoft. Well, hello XP and such, where each and every user has to register.. kids can't get their hands on it and pass it around and such anymore. Enter Linux...:)
In my opinion, Linux is going to win because kids can get it cheap, College students can get it cheap, and it is the kids that drives the next wave of OS's, not the price or TCO.
I agree. Plus, everyone knows that when a "brave new product" is released, there is a great deal of waffling over what will become the standard. Any hardware manufacturer dumping out a product must assume that there will be iterations of improvement/compromise/standardization with the market before a true "Standard" is coined. Perfect example of this was the 56K modem standard.. what was it, X2, KFlex... V.92?
Really simply, it is like taking a 2 lane highway, and making it into a 4 lane highway (or in this case, a 32 lane highway and making it into a 64). The basic result is that assuming the same clock speed, (or keeping with our highway analogy, driving speed) you can get twice the rate of info processed at the same time.
Aye, but is there a significant heat buildup of a 100% loaded CPU versus an unloaded variety? In other words, what is the overall percentage of change. It isn't much, and proper cooling will certainly accomodate 100% load. If your cooling is so close to critical anyway, then running any intense app or game will send you into thermal woes and instablity, including seti or any other distributed computing app. So I stay with my original post that it is negligant at best, and more than likely none at all.
There are no gears in a CPU, so physical wear and tear is not possible. I guess if you consider wearing out the little electrons...
And since a processor is constantly working at full speed, what difference does it make if it is sitting idle, or running some application. When your CPU is doing nothing, it sits around churning out no ops.
I kind of enjoyed responding to this, good chuckle factor.
In a dark alley in slashdot world the two gangs prepared to rumble
This is all highly amusing, yet somehow terribly tedious and silly. If you like Mac, go get a Mac. I like PC. I like AMD. I'll go get an AMD PC. The whole faux west side story rumble between the rival chip gangs, spouting somebody else's benchmarks and the beating of chests in a valiant but altogether vain effort to change each other's opinions, charging off like Charlemagne in a beaney....Is all this really going somewhere?
-We'll convert the heritics if we have to kill every last one of them
Let's face it.. Mac users and PC users are fundamentally different kinds of users, just as Mac's and PC's are fundamentally different kinds of Computers. Apple stopped being in the hard-core geek world back when they stopped making the Apple 2GS. Since then, Apple has been in the foo-foo world of grapic arts and tabulating scores on second grader's papers. Apple's software suite is limited to these sort of applications, too.
I just think it is funny that Mac, having been a "touchy-feely anti-geek" sorta platform where everything works in a single click (mainly because there is only one button on the mouse) and mr. bluebird and happy help bubble live a quiet, happy life on a quiet, happy appliance of a computer, starts stomping around trying to look all powerful and geekish because their new 64 bit processor is so amazingly fast--
Who cares?
Am I going to buy a Mac, ever, for any reason, ever? (even if it is fast)
No.
Mac is for touch-feely grapic artists and school teachers. Mac is an appliance. It is not a computer.
'Nuff said.
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It sounds like a good idea for a moment, before you think about it. First of all, most web content is offered as free with no warranties or guarantees of anything. You surf at your own risk. Second, a person may go through hundreds of web sites in a day, and tens or hundreds of thousands of people may hit your site. Third, most people with any sense have some form of antivirus on their computers, and those that do not are either asking for it and they know it, or wouldn't know what to do if they did get a virus. In reality, virus protection is the responsibility of the user. True, it is absolutely insane that people have unprotected web sites out there, but since the web is a public forum, there is really no way to say who does what without limiting the "for all people" part of it. The web is a beautiful thing because it is open to everyone, regardless.
I don't know. The reason I wrote my comment was due to observation. I was outside the computer science department at a local junior college and overheard a discussion.. one kid was asking another kid where he could get an os for the computer he had just pieced together. The knowledeable kid suggested Linux...free and cool and it's against the evil empire Microsoft. Well, as far as I know, they went away and loaded Linux. If it happens once, how many times does it happen? I just remember back when I was in college and having this exact same discussion about Mac and Windows, and I proved my point by making a set of disks and handing them the guy arguing with me and said "do that with a mac". Of course, he could not.
Microsoft, the (one time) king of software, believes it's own BS. The fact of the matter is, whatever the kids (high school and college) use is where the industry is going. Forget TCO and stuff like this. Back in the days of Windows 3.1, you could easily make the installation disks, and give them to your school mates and buddies, and so all the local kids had a copy. Sure, Apple was in the schools, but kids couldn't afford Apple (Macintosh) OS, so people stayed with Microsoft. Well, hello XP and such, where each and every user has to register.. kids can't get their hands on it and pass it around and such anymore. Enter Linux... :)
In my opinion, Linux is going to win because kids can get it cheap, College students can get it cheap, and it is the kids that drives the next wave of OS's, not the price or TCO.
I agree. Plus, everyone knows that when a "brave new product" is released, there is a great deal of waffling over what will become the standard. Any hardware manufacturer dumping out a product must assume that there will be iterations of improvement/compromise/standardization with the market before a true "Standard" is coined. Perfect example of this was the 56K modem standard.. what was it, X2, KFlex... V.92?
Really simply, it is like taking a 2 lane highway, and making it into a 4 lane highway (or in this case, a 32 lane highway and making it into a 64). The basic result is that assuming the same clock speed, (or keeping with our highway analogy, driving speed) you can get twice the rate of info processed at the same time.
Aye, but is there a significant heat buildup of a 100% loaded CPU versus an unloaded variety? In other words, what is the overall percentage of change. It isn't much, and proper cooling will certainly accomodate 100% load. If your cooling is so close to critical anyway, then running any intense app or game will send you into thermal woes and instablity, including seti or any other distributed computing app. So I stay with my original post that it is negligant at best, and more than likely none at all.
I keep expecting Alan Funt to pop up on this one.
There are no gears in a CPU, so physical wear and tear is not possible. I guess if you consider wearing out the little electrons...
And since a processor is constantly working at full speed, what difference does it make if it is sitting idle, or running some application. When your CPU is doing nothing, it sits around churning out no ops.
I kind of enjoyed responding to this, good chuckle factor.
In a dark alley in slashdot world the two gangs prepared to rumble
This is all highly amusing, yet somehow terribly tedious and silly. If you like Mac, go get a Mac. I like PC. I like AMD. I'll go get an AMD PC. The whole faux west side story rumble between the rival chip gangs, spouting somebody else's benchmarks and the beating of chests in a valiant but altogether vain effort to change each other's opinions, charging off like Charlemagne in a beaney....Is all this really going somewhere?
-We'll convert the heritics if we have to kill every last one of them
Let's face it.. Mac users and PC users are fundamentally different kinds of users, just as Mac's and PC's are fundamentally different kinds of Computers. Apple stopped being in the hard-core geek world back when they stopped making the Apple 2GS. Since then, Apple has been in the foo-foo world of grapic arts and tabulating scores on second grader's papers. Apple's software suite is limited to these sort of applications, too. I just think it is funny that Mac, having been a "touchy-feely anti-geek" sorta platform where everything works in a single click (mainly because there is only one button on the mouse) and mr. bluebird and happy help bubble live a quiet, happy life on a quiet, happy appliance of a computer, starts stomping around trying to look all powerful and geekish because their new 64 bit processor is so amazingly fast-- Who cares? Am I going to buy a Mac, ever, for any reason, ever? (even if it is fast) No. Mac is for touch-feely grapic artists and school teachers. Mac is an appliance. It is not a computer. 'Nuff said.