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  1. Re:I can decipher it! on "Stolen" SCO Linux Code Snippets Leaked · · Score: 1

    Transliterated? Very strange. I tried my signature in the Mounce
    font, and a lot of the punctuation comes out as diacritical marks
    on the previous character. For example, where you see "map{my",
    the curley brace comes out as a rough breathing and accute accent,
    which looks pretty odd over the pi -- not to mention, the y comes
    out as a psi, so you end up with something that _if_ it could be
    pronounced would be roughly "maHPmps". On the other hand, what
    follows ("($a,$b)") comes out very nicely if you imagine someone
    using alpha and beta as variable names.

  2. Re:I can decipher it! on "Stolen" SCO Linux Code Snippets Leaked · · Score: 1

    Heh. +1 Funny, but actually even transliteration isn't quite that
    straightforward, much less translation. If you take English and
    write it in a Greek-transliterative font, you get gibberish, which
    often isn't even pronounceable. Symbol is even worse, because some
    of the symbols aren't Greek letters or aren't even letters at all.

  3. Re:I can decipher it! on "Stolen" SCO Linux Code Snippets Leaked · · Score: 1

    You will note, however, that the Symbol font only uses the Greek
    letters as symbols; it does not have provisions for diacritical
    marks, for example, or Greek punctuation (e.g., the ? glyph does
    not look like a semicolon) as any real transliterative font (Graeca,
    Mounce) would do.

    And I *can* read Greek (albeit not quickly, and not modern Greek).

  4. Re:oh no! on "Stolen" SCO Linux Code Snippets Leaked · · Score: 1

    > In that case, shouldn't SGI be suing SCO for ... ???

    Not for profit. (Hello? Turnip? Blood?) However, they could sue
    them for assorted things (vague intellectual property violations
    come to mind) in an attempt to boost their stock price.

  5. Re:oh no! on "Stolen" SCO Linux Code Snippets Leaked · · Score: 1

    The linked usenet article seems to indicate (though not being a C programmer it's hard to be certain) that the one bit of code (the one with the comment about allocating size units) was in BSD in 1984 and may have been changed at that time to fix a bug.

    The other one (with the mutex and the assert) I don't know about, but you can speculate about whether it may have been in BSD also.

  6. Re:Which is why... on Samba 3.0.0RC1 Released · · Score: 1

    > I don't see how the fact that Windows doesn't ship with
    > Apache is relevant.

    I was trying to be nice. Allow me to rephrase so as to be more
    clear: "Doesn't ship with any web server software that isn't
    so infamous no sane sysadmin would permit it on his network".

    > I'm also curious as to what constitutes a "decent" command
    > shell or text editor for you.

    A decent command shell is one that's good enough you can easily
    do all your file management from it, so that you don't need a
    GUI file manager. One critical feature of a decent command shell
    is the ability to put the output of one command on the command
    line of another command, but there are other key features.

    A decent text editor? Of course I mean Emacs, but I can make a
    *lengthy* list of important features that are present in twenty
    or thirty major text editors but absent in the ones that ship
    with Windows. The ones that ship with Windows don't even have
    basic macro capabilities, for crying out loud.

    > There is also a secure shell included- terminal services.

    I thought terminal services was a thinclient server? Maybe I
    was confused about that.

  7. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    > why is there no grounds for pronouncing it as linnux?

    Because it's neither etymologically nor phonetically correct.

    > Lin is sometime prononced with a short i in English. Lint,
    > linear, lingo, liberty...

    Lint is pronounced with a short i because it's phonetically correct
    that way. Lingo also is pronounced phonetically (rhymes with Ringo).
    Liberty is pronounced the way it is because it comes from French.
    (Compare with the pronunciation of Xouvert.) (Liberty's English
    pronunciation has drifted a bit from the French, but it's much closer
    to the French than it is to what would be phonetic in English.)

    Linear is an interesting study. Etymologically, it comes from the
    Latin (wherein linea means line). It's pronounced that way, then,
    because the phonetic rendering in English is hard or impossible for
    most native speakers of the language to pronounce. The i and the e
    would both be long, and the a silent, thus: "line ear" -- easy to
    pronounce as two separate words, but when you run them together the
    dipthong gets mangled and comes out as two syllables. Also, some
    people have difficulty pronouncing the English long I in that
    combination. Anyway, the long and short of it is that people did
    not like saying it that way, so they used the Latin pronunciation,
    or something closer to it.

  8. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    Just spell it out. "ess ell a ess aych dee oh tee dot oh are gee."

  9. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    I prefer the other approach (speaking quickly): "Okay, I'm resetting
    your password. Your new password is capital Q period lowercase d
    forward slash seven tilde lowercase b uppercase I right curly brace
    exclamation mark zero uppercase N lowercase v backquote. Try to
    remember it this time, okay?"

  10. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    There are two ways it makes sense to pronounce it. Either you say
    it the original way (the way Linus does), or you anglicise it (with
    an English long I). Either of these makes sense; the former, because
    it's the correct pronunciation etymologically, and the latter because
    it's correct phonetically in English.

    The one that doesn't make sense is the one with an English short i,
    as if it were "linnux". There's no grounds for that one.

  11. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    > Finnish as a written language is pretty young, only a couple
    > of hundred years. Therefore it has the convenient property
    > of words being written exactly as spoken (or vice versa, depends
    > on how you look at it), because the guy who invented it was
    > smart enough to do it like that.

    Songo also has this property.

  12. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    > Is the pronunciation a rooter or a rowter.

    Neither. It's pronounced router, just like route with er on the
    end. It would be rooter if it rooted, or rowter if it rowted
    (sounding like row, presumably), but since it routes, it's
    pronounced router, with the ou pronounced as in ouch and trounce.

    That's actually fairly straightforward. The tricky ones are the
    oo words. Root, rooster, and roof are particularly troublesome:
    does the oo pronounce as in book and look, or as in spook and
    Hoover? (I prefer the latter, but it is arguable, and there are inconsistencies: for example, root beer is always pronounced with
    the oo as in book and look, even by people who pronounce tree
    roots with the oo as in spook and Hoover.)

    I'm sure I've cleared up all confusion in this matter. HTH.HAND.

  13. Re:That's nice, but... on XFree86 Fork Gets a Name, Website · · Score: 1

    I pronounce the g in gnu, but I don't put a vowel between the g
    and the n like the other poster indicated; I just pronounce it
    the way it's spelled. You learn to pull such stunts after a
    couple of semesters of greek. I can pronounce psychiatry too.
    I still have trouble trilling my Rs. I was never able to do that
    at _all_, after two semesters of Spanish and much frustration,
    until my college roommate showed me the pronunciation section of
    his Klingon-English/English-Klingon dictionary. The instructions
    on how to pronounce the Klingon gh were very detailed (and very
    different from the pathetic instruction Spanish teachers give you
    on trilling), and with practice I found that not only can I
    pronounce the gh (a highly funky phoneme), but by a similar
    technique I can trill an rr. (Then I discovered that it's
    possible to trill other letters too... l, w, o, ... actually,
    these are a bit easier than r, which still gives me trouble.)

  14. Re:it's true on Linux will have 20% desktop market share by 2008? · · Score: 1

    > win32 is win32 is win32

    This is naive. You can make it work if you're writing card games
    and such like, but the sorts of games that the other poster meant
    sometimes have to be a little more intimate with the system and
    rely on lower-level OS functionality than the Win32 API. Not most
    of the code of the game, mind you, but enough that it does matter.

    Of course, once new systems stopped shipping with Win98SE and Me,
    all the game developers instantly saw the light, and they had
    several months to get their act together before the number of
    new WinXP systems grew enough to be deeply significant to their
    pocketbooks.

    However, prior to the big release of XP, NT had nowhere near a
    20% market share on the desktop.

    20% desktop share for Linux? Sounds optimistic to me, but 2008
    is still several years away, and an aweful lot can happen in that
    amount of time, so who knows. Idle speculation. Time will tell.

  15. Re:Which is why... on Samba 3.0.0RC1 Released · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > when a Windows server can be had that can do it out of the
    > box with very little administration

    That would represent a very radical change in Microsoft policy.

    Don't get me wrong, NT has some things going for it, but "doing
    it all out of the box" isn't one of them. All that stuff is
    *available*, of course, and once you install it you have a
    pretty decent system, but it's not included OOTB. The reason
    for this goes directly back to Microsoft policy: the OOTB system
    is a base platform with basic functionality, suitable for the
    majority of users who have simple expectations. The minority
    who need features can obtain them separately. (Time was when
    they obtained them separately from third-party software vendors.
    These days with a few exceptions it's mostly either direct from
    MS or ports of OSS stuff free from the net. But the principle
    is the same.)

    Out of the box, Windows systems are junk. You have to download
    and install a couple of gigabytes of software to make a Windows
    system useful. They don't ship with Apache, or a decent Java
    vm, no python, no decent command shell, no decent text editor,
    no secure shell server (critical for most servers, especially
    headless servers), ... They don't even ship with Perl, for crying
    out loud. *Every* OS ships with Perl -- well, pretty much every
    non-handheld OS that matters, except Windows and VMS.

    After you download and install a couple of gigs of software,
    then your Windows system starts to become useful.

    Most Linux distros have the reverse problem -- three or four
    competing implementations of almost everything, with notable
    singleton exceptions like (oooh, back to topic) Samba, and
    ten or twelve competing implementations of some things, even
    more of certain key things (shells, window managers, ...).

    Samba IMO could use a competitor (that runs on something besides
    Windows). Just one competitor, though, not four or five or six.
    Preferably one written in a VHLL, and written in a more modular
    and flexible fashion so it can do things like support for multiple
    network/transport layers for compatibility with systems that are
    configured not to route NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

  16. Re:Changes to Auth system on Samba 3.0.0RC1 Released · · Score: 1

    > BTW I like the right tool for the problem beleive it or
    > not clusters of Linux boxes dont work for any problem yet.

    Of course not. For some problems you need BSD ;-)

  17. Re:Enterprise != Free (Of Course Not) on The Increasing Cost of Red Hat Linux? · · Score: 1

    > You don't learn in the classroom

    Depends what you put into it, and of course on what kind of learning
    we're talking about. Obviously, college won't teach you as much
    about the business world as the equivalent amount of time spent
    _in_ the business world, but the purpose of a classical education
    is not job training, at least not directly. (It does help, but
    that's not the primary immediate goal.)

    College is (or was, at one time) designed to teach you how to think,
    teach you how to study, and expose you to a broad variety of topics.
    Will all of that help you in your first month on the job? A little.
    (You also learn other things that will help you more...) But the
    key thing you take away from college is the ability to learn more
    efficiently, so that the time you spend on the job (or anywhere
    else) subsequently will teach you more than it otherwise would
    have. Have I learned more technology in three years working in
    IT than I did in four years minoring in computer science? Yes,
    of course. Would I have learned as much, even assuming I had
    landed my current job, if I hadn't had the college background?
    I rather doubt it.

    Of course, just as with anything, you to a large extent get out
    of college what you put into it, so this works better for some
    folks than for others.

  18. FAT32 is still your best option at this time on Filesystems For Removable Disks? · · Score: 1

    Microsoft supports FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, and NTFS. NTFS is in many
    ways superior to FAT, but Linux support for NTFS is still limited
    to read-only unless you want to use highly experimental write support
    that is officially labelled DANGEROUS (i.e., more bleeding edge than
    code that is merely EXPERIMENTAL) and guaranteed to corrupt the
    filesystem. Then there's the issue of NTFS support in OS X; I'm
    not aware of any options there. Also, if you need to access it
    from Win9x/Me, those versions don't support NTFS either.

    The ideal of course would be a journaling filesystem like Reiser.
    But Windows doesn't support those, last I knew.

    Now, if you're willing to forego native support by some OSes, there
    are third-party apps to bring support to Windows and/or Mac for
    various filesystems that aren't supported natively. Explore2fs and
    the like. These are a kludge and a pain to use, and they don't
    integrate with the OS much less with apps, but they do (mostly)
    work. But when you go down that path you lose most of the nicer
    advantages of those filesystems. The real advantage of these apps
    is for multiboot systems, so that if you happen to be booted into
    the other OS and somebody on usenet asks how you got foo to work,
    you can pull your config file off the other filesystem and look.
    It's not really practical to use this as a regular filesystem.

    FAT32 may suck, but it's supported by everything. Go with it.
    If you need to store things FAT32 can't store directly (symlinks,
    permissions, other attributes...), wrap them up in a ZIP archive.

  19. Re:Wouldn't you need an expensive switch? on Surviving Slashdotting with a Small Server · · Score: 1

    > As for broadband...I dunno where you're from
    From the internet. Oh, you mean physically? Galion, Ohio.

    > around here residential broadband is generally 1.5mbit+ down,
    > and 512kbit+ up
    The 1.5 down is as good as T1. 512 up isn't quite, but it's
    still way better than what I could get here.

    > You should move
    Well, I'm going to colocate a server very soon; that'll help.
    For client stuff, in a pinch I can go in to work during my off
    time and use the T1. At home, I've adapted pretty well to my
    shared 33.6 dialup. wget rocks. Also, Mozilla's tabbed browsing
    lets me queue pages and continue reading the first page while
    they are retrieved. (Very nice for slashdot; scroll down the
    main page middle-clicking the interesting links, and by the time
    I get to the bottom the first story has loaded.) The new
    prefetching is nice too. The thing that really hurts is all the
    spam I get. Filtering helps with the time I have to spend
    _reading_ my mail, but it still takes thirty minutes to _download_
    it all. I do something else while I wait for it, but it's annoying.

  20. Re:finally, a valid excuse on Chimera Twins Story · · Score: 1

    > I think it's safe to say that the majority of users have winamp,
    > realplayer, or quicktime.

    I don't think that's a safe assumption at all. 84.3% of users don't
    have *anything* that wasn't either preinstalled when they bought the
    computer or automatically installed when they inserted the disk the
    ISP sent them in the Connection Kit. QT comes preinstalled on Mac,
    which gives it 4.7% share or so. Real and Winamp are AFAIK only
    used by people who install things. So, 4.7% for Mac users, plus
    the 15.7% who install things, but there's some overlap there, so
    only about 19.2% of users have any of these things installed.

    OTOH, among slashdot readers the percentages are very different,
    since 98.4% of slashdot readers install software (and indeed
    almost 70% are not afraid to install entire operating systems).
    So among slashdot readers it is very likely that the majority
    are using one or another of the above-listed applications.
    (That said, I don't have or want any of them... I have timidity
    and xmms and what else do I need?)

    Additionally, it is worth considering that 84.3% of users in
    the US are still on dialup (though, again, the number is lower
    on slashdot), which makes downloading audio news stories a
    somewhat less exciting proposition.

    Of course, 98.675% of all statistics are made up.

  21. Re:There goes my number-one excuse on Chimera Twins Story · · Score: 1

    It used to be called schizophrenia. Then it was called multiple
    personality disorder. Then it was dissociative disorder. I'm not
    sure what they're calling it these days.

  22. Re:Hmm on Chimera Twins Story · · Score: 1

    Much more likely, it could mean the same father impregnated two eggs
    at the same time, but it should be noted that one of the resulting
    sets of DNA might have a Y chromosome, and the other might not. The
    implications of this possibility are left as an exercise to the reader.

  23. Re:Wouldn't you need an expensive switch? on Surviving Slashdotting with a Small Server · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > After that, your cheap ide disk might have a hard time

    You do realise, don't you, that a cheap IDE disk can handle
    more throughput than a T3 line or a 10/100 switch? Refer to
    the speed chart below.

    Although, if you don't have adequate cooling, making it do so
    continually for a few hours could have a detrimental impact on
    its lifespan. But a university department server is probably
    in an air-conditioned building, which makes adequate cooling
    fairly easy, because ambient temperature stays low no matter
    how much heat you blow out the back of the box. So you slap
    a cooler on the HD and add one case fan and you're set, yes?

    Speed Chart:
    CPU, RAM, HD, Ethernet/T3, T1, Dialup, Keyboard
    Each step is _at least_ an order of magnitude slower than the
    previous step on the chart. Thus, if your bottleneck is the
    T3 line, even the cheapest IDE hard drive can easily keep up.
    Removable drives are well slower than the HD, but I don't know
    how they compare to the networking technologies. Residential
    broadband is generally not better than T1 and often is closer
    to dialup. (Dialup at "56k" gets real speeds up to 45kbps; T1
    is about 1500kbps, so 128 or even 256kbps is closer to dialup
    than it is to T1. 512kbps is (geometrically) closer to the T1,
    however, and so can be classified as true broadband.)

  24. Re:Wouldn't you need an expensive switch? on Surviving Slashdotting with a Small Server · · Score: 1

    > I find it hard to believe that a cheap dual channel switch
    > for 2 pc's could handle the slashdot effect.

    You're on crack. A simple 100BaseT fast ethernet switch (which
    will run you $50 or so) running in full duplex mode can handle as
    much traffic as 66 T1 lines -- that's more traffic than one T3
    line can carry. The slashdot effect is a lot of bandwidth, but
    it's not _that_ much bandwidth. (LAN technology carries much more
    bandwidth for the buck than WAN technology; the reason it's cheaper
    is mostly because it doesn't have to handle the long distances.)

    The real danger of the slashdot effect is to people on narrow pipes
    (Cable/DSL -- or of course dialup) or with bandwidth caps, or to
    sites that carry ginormous bandwidth-intensive downloads with heavy
    geek appeal (ISO images anyone? What about a 500MB computer-
    generated animation of Darl McBride getting spanked?), or to sites
    with server-side active content that does something that consumes
    a lot of resources (such as database queries). Static HTML (and a
    few GIFs and sanely-sized PNGs) served over a university connection
    (probably T3 or better) isn't in any really serious danger.

  25. Re:Just the facts, ma'am on Meet Martin Taylor Of Microsoft's Open Source Test Lab · · Score: 1

    Netscape 4, right? Yeah, it sucks. Netscape 7 is much better.

    I also found that all internet-related apps crash many times as
    often as usual if you are running instant messaging software. I
    discovered this when I first experimented with ICQ, and Pegasus
    Mail started crashing. (Pegasus Mail, normally, does not crash.)
    I uninstalled ICQ, and Pegasus magically was healed.