Trump is a textbook fascist. And you would know that, if you'd ever opened a fucking textbook
No, No, No, No. You are doing it wrong. Now repeat after me. Trump is not Satan. Trump is not the boogie man. Trump isn't going to take away my birthday. Trump isn't going to rape my goat and steal my chickens.
Keep saying that over and over till it sinks in.
Now then once it sinks in go back and actually read what you typed. While you read it, think to yourself "Damn that really makes me look like a paranoid fuck." Continue to think that way then add. "I really shouldn't look like a paranoid fuck, all it does is make me sound like a idiot and scare the chickens."
Oh bullshit. It is not. You snowflakes need to get your shit together and stop thinking that Trump is the big boogie man out to destroy the planet.
You lost an election. Deal with it. It won't be the last. At worst Trump is going to be a bad president and that is it.
Now repeat after me. Trump isn't Satan. Trump isn't going to start a nuclear war. Trump isn't going to blow up the planet. Trump isn't going to rape me and my dog. Keep repeating till it sinks in.
Please explain where I said something stupid and demonstrably wrong? If I was being condescending or pissy to you, then you would know it. Just so you will know, now I'm going to be condescending to you.
You're wrong, period. You can apparently read 12th amendment but you don't seem to understand what you read.
Now then. I'm not going to be condescending from here.
What you said would only be correct if all the states had the same number of votes in the electorate college. But even with the electoral college a vote California still heavy out weighs one Rhode Island because California still has so many votes.
People seem to think that Trump won in a landslide against Clinton. Actually he barely eked by. The numbers look impressive but if he had lost those swing states he would have easily lost. The reason for this is the overwelming number of votes California and New York have.
Actually, eliminating the EC will make California votes count exactly as much as the rest of the country. 1 vote in California will equal 1 vote from Rhode Island or Alaska
Do they no longer teach political science in schools any more? Okay, I'm really getting tired of explaining to you but I will one more time.
We don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic. If you don't know the difference I would suggest that you learn. While you are researching democracy, make sure you learn the history of them and why they don't work.
Contrary to popular belief the people do not elect the president. The states elect the president. They do that through the electoral college. The popular vote doesn't mean squat outside the state where it is taken. The only purpose of the popular vote is tell the states electors who the population prefers for president.
An No, eliminating the electoral college will not make a vote in Rhode Island the same as one in California. It will completely eliminate Rhode Islands vote. As in the votes in Rhode Island will not mean squat due to California's overwhelming population.
If you're thinking I was using a minefield metaphor to imply Trump was considerably worse, then no. A bullet and a minefield will both kill you, the latter merely makes the chances of an open casket funeral somewhat lower
I believe then that I owe you an apology. Looks like I misinterpreted your point of view. To this my dear, you have my sincere apology. Please not that while this may seem to be sarcastic I am being sincere in this case.
I hope they are not filing the serial numbers off the M$ office interface and bolting it to Libreoffice. The current interact that libreoffice has is one of the reasons I like it.
I share concerns about the Greens, though I suspect that a lot of it is just pandering to try and snag people too left for the Democrats
No doubt in my mind that Jill Stein and the Greens where a shill for the Democrats this time around. When Stein pushed for all those recounts in those states that wouldn't have benefited nobody but Clinton. No matter how many times they counted those votes they would never have dug up enough to give the Greens one single electoral vote.
Johnson is about a fucking stupid choice as you can make
No, not really. I don't believe anyone seriously though Johnson would win. Not even Gary Johnson. But when you vote for a third party what you are doing is increasing the visibility of that party. We are playing the long game here, hoping that sometime down the road we will have more than the big two.
With that in mind the actual candidate is irrelevant.
Start your post off with a whine, finish it with the cheese
Okay snowflake, I'm going to end this sad conversation with a sad individual, that being you, with these facts.
First fact, You're a god damn moron.
Second fact. Everything that I have said here is 100% true and it doesn't matter if you like it or not. The world doesn't work like you think it does snowflake. Once you are outside your little "safe zone" you're going to find out how it really works.
Third fact. Like all snowflakes when you can't compete with the facts you decide to attack the messenger. Well little snowflake that doesn't work with me. I'm an asshole and I know it, in fact everyone on this board knows it. I personally don't give a flaming fuck what you think about me.
Funny. Doesn't seem like we landed in a mine field. Just today the Dow is about to crack 20K. You know Trump hasn't been sworn in yet but seems to be doing more for the economy than Obama ever did. Looks like world leaders are beating a path to his door too.
None of this would have happened if the hag had been elected. Provided a house didn't fall on her.
So snowflake, you see a mine field where the rest of the world see opportunity. And no, snowflake, opportunity isn't a bad thing.
And is he a malevolent force, a false prophet working only to advance his own megalomania and the interests of the plutocracy?
Or is he actually motivated to help the common man, however flawed his strategy may be?
The rest would gladly form a new conservative state or two
This has been my observation when I was living in California. You basically have two states there, a north and a south. The northern half would gladly part with the nutty south.
I think that him pointing out that Cali singlehandedly swung the election in favor of Clinton by 4M votes counts as knowing that.
California did no such thing. What California did was swing the election in California by 4 million votes, give or take. Honestly that 4 million number doesn't mean squat outside of California.
You mean conjecture and assertion. But it's simple, to leave, you pass a law. Done. What's complicated is not having a way, but how it is done
blah blah blah blah
What do we have here? Another foolish snowflake that thinks they know how the world works but doesn't have a fucking clue. Who is also to much of a god damn coward to log in with an account.
Well fool let me explain this to you. That 2 trillion dollar economy is only there because you are connected to the US. Once you break free that 2 trillion dollar economy won't be worth squat. What you will be stuck with is the 700B dollar debit with no way to pay it back. Yes, that is how it will work.
Now you want to talk about trade. You only have trade when you have something to trade. California will have nothing but a large debit with no way to pay it. There will be trade but not enough to support the large population of California. Yes, that is how it will work.
Debit doesn't make what you have worthless? The is a god damn stupid statement because that is exactly what it does. You take what you have and subtract what you owe. And what you have after the exit is nothing.
Now then, where does most of the industry base come from? Well a lot of it comes from contracts with the US government. Well after California exits then those contracts are all worthless. Then what will happen fool? Mostly likely those industries will relocate to places inside the US so they can continue those contracts.
Whoops, there goes the economy. So much for that 2 trillion dollar number.
Of course you have a lot of other industries there? Well not really. To support the infrastructure California will have to raise taxes. Once the taxes go up, the industries will move out. Yes, moron that is how it will happen.
Now then about that water. No you don't get to keep that when you exit. You see, moron, treaties are between nations. And the only treaty that deals with water for California is the treaty between Mexico and the US. Note the key words there, between Mexico and the US. Not between Mexico and California. Once you exit that water goes to the US not California. Yes, that is how it will work.
As for the Colorado River agreement, that is agreement between states taking water from that river. Do you see the key word there idiot? States, not countries, states. That is exactly what you will be after the exit, your own country. That agreement will be null and void.
Will it be renegotiated? Probably not because there are states that already think California takes more than their fair share. If for some reason it is renegotiated then it becomes a treaty and those take years to work out. An if it does come to pass its doubtful that you will be given the same level of water you get now.
Now you want to talk about labor. You really are a god damn moron aren't you? Yes, you have the labor force but you don't have the infrastructure to support them. Namely water. So you have all these people that can grow the food, but you don't have the water to grow it with. With out water to grow the food you get a lot of starving Californians. Now do you see idiot?
Oh of course you could think you are entitled to the water like most of California thinks it is. But that isn't how the world works.
Still think my claims are totally baseless? Well to bad dumbass because they are not. Here is the simple fact idiot. California doesn't have the god damn resources to survive on it own and maintain the population it has with the standard of living that its used too. And that is a god damn fact.
Now you can stay in fucking denial all you want too but those are god damn facts. Deal with it.
But we might as well be honest. California isn't going any fucking where. You are going to stay apart of the United States weather little snowflakes like you like it or not. Period. Deal with it.
When he first started I figured too, that this was just something else to cross off his bucket list. But now that its over I've been listening to his after election speeches I'm of the mind to give him a chance. Not like we have a choice now anyway.
Everyone is entailed to their option, even one as wrong as yours. So yes, it worked. Just because you and the rest of you crybaby snowflakes say it didn't doesn't make it so. It worked so get over it.
No. Much, much better than that. He's high farce entertainment.
And I think the headline is inaccurate, Trump wasn't so much voted in for President, it's that Clinton was rejected. They could have nominated Bozo the Clown and won, but they put a fix in, expecting a coronation.
Perfect. I've had this exact same conversation on other boards. If they had fielded any one else the would have won hands down.
Humm, Calexit. Lets look at that for a moment shall we? For the sake of argument lets say there was a way for California to exit the United States. Lets look at some numbers and fact about this.
California is over 700B dollars in debit. You think that debit is going vanish when California exits? Nope, you will still owe it but now you won't have the credit and backing of a large economy of the US behind you. You will be a small player on a world stage, deeply in debit with no creditors. Taht money will be due.
Did you know that California is the most populated state in the country? I believe I read some where that california has 10 times the population that its own internal resources, like water and food, can support. In fact California imports a great deal of its water from surrounding states and Mexico. When California leaves the US you don't get to take the water with you. You will have to pay for that water. Except, there is one problem, well actually 700 billion problems.
Then there is food. Its true that Californa grows a shit ton of food but the only way you can do that is because you import so much water. No water, no food, lots of starving people in California. You will have to pay for your food. Whoops, there is that debit again.
With out the water, and the food all those industries that are there now will depart for greener pastures. An I've been to California, its not that green there now. Once those industries start to leave there goes the economy.
I'm not even going to bring up things like earthquake, forest fires, and mud slides that California suffers from.
THAT thinking right there is the reason you lost the election. You thought he was a imbecile but he clearly isn't. He owns a very large business empire and had a successful tv series. These are are far from the acts of a 'imbecile." An now he will be the next president of the United States
There is no stopping him; Trump will soon be president. And I for one welcome our new orange overlord. Iâ(TM)d like to remind him that as a trusted slashdot personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in his underground cheeto dust cave hotels.
Excellent. Good to see someone isn't taking this to seriously.
Horsehocky. Despite what the whitehouse is preaching there is no evidence of the Russian government having anything to do with rigging the election. All the evidence of the DNC rigging trying to rig the election came from Wikileaks. Which probably got all their information from inside sources.
There are not going to be any oil executive running the government. There might be one in a cabinet position, that isn't a done deal yet, but that is far from running the government. But if the price we have to pay to keep Hillary out of the whitehouse then it will be well worth the price.
There will be no global war because of Trump, that is BS and you know it. As for a loss of the current national health care, then good. Because its garbage. Besides we are not a socialist country anyway.
As for spiraling national debit, we are already in hock up to our eyeballs, mostly thanks to obama. He increased the national debit by more than all 43 presidents before him combined. As for respect on the world stage seems to me with Trump we are already seeing a increase in that respect. Hard not to with all the damage obama did to our respect.
I cast my lot for Johnson too. My decision process seemed to follow yours too. But that being said even with Trump being elected I don't think it will be as bad as people think it will be. I think if anything good does come out of this it will be a recognition of what 3rd party candidate have to offer. An you don't have to vote for the big two.
I have to agree with you. I didn't vote for Hillary because of her attitude. To me it seem like she thought she was entitled to the office. She didn't campaign like Trump did she just seem to coast through the election process.
The DNC itself is also to blame. I honestly feel if they had fielded any one but her, Bernie for one, then we would have a orange overlord to worry about.
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Trump is a textbook fascist. And you would know that, if you'd ever opened a fucking textbook
No, No, No, No. You are doing it wrong. Now repeat after me. Trump is not Satan. Trump is not the boogie man. Trump isn't going to take away my birthday. Trump isn't going to rape my goat and steal my chickens.
Keep saying that over and over till it sinks in.
Now then once it sinks in go back and actually read what you typed. While you read it, think to yourself "Damn that really makes me look like a paranoid fuck." Continue to think that way then add. "I really shouldn't look like a paranoid fuck, all it does is make me sound like a idiot and scare the chickens."
Do you have that? Good.
Oh bullshit. It is not. You snowflakes need to get your shit together and stop thinking that Trump is the big boogie man out to destroy the planet.
You lost an election. Deal with it. It won't be the last. At worst Trump is going to be a bad president and that is it.
Now repeat after me. Trump isn't Satan. Trump isn't going to start a nuclear war. Trump isn't going to blow up the planet. Trump isn't going to rape me and my dog. Keep repeating till it sinks in.
Please explain where I said something stupid and demonstrably wrong? If I was being condescending or pissy to you, then you would know it. Just so you will know, now I'm going to be condescending to you.
You're wrong, period. You can apparently read 12th amendment but you don't seem to understand what you read.
Now then. I'm not going to be condescending from here.
What you said would only be correct if all the states had the same number of votes in the electorate college. But even with the electoral college a vote California still heavy out weighs one Rhode Island because California still has so many votes.
People seem to think that Trump won in a landslide against Clinton. Actually he barely eked by. The numbers look impressive but if he had lost those swing states he would have easily lost. The reason for this is the overwelming number of votes California and New York have.
Actually, eliminating the EC will make California votes count exactly as much as the rest of the country. 1 vote in California will equal 1 vote from Rhode Island or Alaska
Do they no longer teach political science in schools any more? Okay, I'm really getting tired of explaining to you but I will one more time.
We don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic. If you don't know the difference I would suggest that you learn. While you are researching democracy, make sure you learn the history of them and why they don't work.
Contrary to popular belief the people do not elect the president. The states elect the president. They do that through the electoral college. The popular vote doesn't mean squat outside the state where it is taken. The only purpose of the popular vote is tell the states electors who the population prefers for president.
An No, eliminating the electoral college will not make a vote in Rhode Island the same as one in California. It will completely eliminate Rhode Islands vote. As in the votes in Rhode Island will not mean squat due to California's overwhelming population.
If you're thinking I was using a minefield metaphor to imply Trump was considerably worse, then no. A bullet and a minefield will both kill you, the latter merely makes the chances of an open casket funeral somewhat lower
I believe then that I owe you an apology. Looks like I misinterpreted your point of view. To this my dear, you have my sincere apology. Please not that while this may seem to be sarcastic I am being sincere in this case.
I hope they are not filing the serial numbers off the M$ office interface and bolting it to Libreoffice. The current interact that libreoffice has is one of the reasons I like it.
I share concerns about the Greens, though I suspect that a lot of it is just pandering to try and snag people too left for the Democrats
No doubt in my mind that Jill Stein and the Greens where a shill for the Democrats this time around. When Stein pushed for all those recounts in those states that wouldn't have benefited nobody but Clinton. No matter how many times they counted those votes they would never have dug up enough to give the Greens one single electoral vote.
Johnson is about a fucking stupid choice as you can make
No, not really. I don't believe anyone seriously though Johnson would win. Not even Gary Johnson. But when you vote for a third party what you are doing is increasing the visibility of that party. We are playing the long game here, hoping that sometime down the road we will have more than the big two.
With that in mind the actual candidate is irrelevant.
. If you think it takes smarts to headline a successful TV series, then I'd like you to explain where Snooki has been hiding her vast intelligence.
I don't watch much TV but he is listed as a producer on whatever that TV show he was running. So in this case it probably does.
Who or what the hell is "Snooki?" Told you I don't watch much TV.
Start your post off with a whine, finish it with the cheese
Okay snowflake, I'm going to end this sad conversation with a sad individual, that being you, with these facts.
First fact, You're a god damn moron.
Second fact. Everything that I have said here is 100% true and it doesn't matter if you like it or not. The world doesn't work like you think it does snowflake. Once you are outside your little "safe zone" you're going to find out how it really works.
Third fact. Like all snowflakes when you can't compete with the facts you decide to attack the messenger. Well little snowflake that doesn't work with me. I'm an asshole and I know it, in fact everyone on this board knows it. I personally don't give a flaming fuck what you think about me.
Good night and thank you for playing.
Funny. Doesn't seem like we landed in a mine field. Just today the Dow is about to crack 20K. You know Trump hasn't been sworn in yet but seems to be doing more for the economy than Obama ever did. Looks like world leaders are beating a path to his door too.
None of this would have happened if the hag had been elected. Provided a house didn't fall on her.
So snowflake, you see a mine field where the rest of the world see opportunity. And no, snowflake, opportunity isn't a bad thing.
And is he a malevolent force, a false prophet working only to advance his own megalomania and the interests of the plutocracy? Or is he actually motivated to help the common man, however flawed his strategy may be?
Hope for the last, be prepared for the first.
The rest would gladly form a new conservative state or two
This has been my observation when I was living in California. You basically have two states there, a north and a south. The northern half would gladly part with the nutty south.
I think that him pointing out that Cali singlehandedly swung the election in favor of Clinton by 4M votes counts as knowing that.
California did no such thing. What California did was swing the election in California by 4 million votes, give or take. Honestly that 4 million number doesn't mean squat outside of California.
You mean conjecture and assertion. But it's simple, to leave, you pass a law. Done. What's complicated is not having a way, but how it is done blah blah blah blah
What do we have here? Another foolish snowflake that thinks they know how the world works but doesn't have a fucking clue. Who is also to much of a god damn coward to log in with an account.
Well fool let me explain this to you. That 2 trillion dollar economy is only there because you are connected to the US. Once you break free that 2 trillion dollar economy won't be worth squat. What you will be stuck with is the 700B dollar debit with no way to pay it back. Yes, that is how it will work.
Now you want to talk about trade. You only have trade when you have something to trade. California will have nothing but a large debit with no way to pay it. There will be trade but not enough to support the large population of California. Yes, that is how it will work.
Debit doesn't make what you have worthless? The is a god damn stupid statement because that is exactly what it does. You take what you have and subtract what you owe. And what you have after the exit is nothing.
Now then, where does most of the industry base come from? Well a lot of it comes from contracts with the US government. Well after California exits then those contracts are all worthless. Then what will happen fool? Mostly likely those industries will relocate to places inside the US so they can continue those contracts.
Whoops, there goes the economy. So much for that 2 trillion dollar number.
Of course you have a lot of other industries there? Well not really. To support the infrastructure California will have to raise taxes. Once the taxes go up, the industries will move out. Yes, moron that is how it will happen.
Now then about that water. No you don't get to keep that when you exit. You see, moron, treaties are between nations. And the only treaty that deals with water for California is the treaty between Mexico and the US. Note the key words there, between Mexico and the US. Not between Mexico and California. Once you exit that water goes to the US not California. Yes, that is how it will work.
As for the Colorado River agreement, that is agreement between states taking water from that river. Do you see the key word there idiot? States, not countries, states. That is exactly what you will be after the exit, your own country. That agreement will be null and void.
Will it be renegotiated? Probably not because there are states that already think California takes more than their fair share. If for some reason it is renegotiated then it becomes a treaty and those take years to work out. An if it does come to pass its doubtful that you will be given the same level of water you get now.
Now you want to talk about labor. You really are a god damn moron aren't you? Yes, you have the labor force but you don't have the infrastructure to support them. Namely water. So you have all these people that can grow the food, but you don't have the water to grow it with. With out water to grow the food you get a lot of starving Californians. Now do you see idiot?
Oh of course you could think you are entitled to the water like most of California thinks it is. But that isn't how the world works.
Still think my claims are totally baseless? Well to bad dumbass because they are not. Here is the simple fact idiot. California doesn't have the god damn resources to survive on it own and maintain the population it has with the standard of living that its used too. And that is a god damn fact.
Now you can stay in fucking denial all you want too but those are god damn facts. Deal with it.
But we might as well be honest. California isn't going any fucking where. You are going to stay apart of the United States weather little snowflakes like you like it or not. Period. Deal with it.
When he first started I figured too, that this was just something else to cross off his bucket list. But now that its over I've been listening to his after election speeches I'm of the mind to give him a chance. Not like we have a choice now anyway.
Everyone is entailed to their option, even one as wrong as yours. So yes, it worked. Just because you and the rest of you crybaby snowflakes say it didn't doesn't make it so. It worked so get over it.
No. Much, much better than that. He's high farce entertainment. And I think the headline is inaccurate, Trump wasn't so much voted in for President, it's that Clinton was rejected. They could have nominated Bozo the Clown and won, but they put a fix in, expecting a coronation.
Perfect. I've had this exact same conversation on other boards. If they had fielded any one else the would have won hands down.
You are not alone. That is pretty much how I see it too. But beware, some people don't think i'm good company.
Humm, Calexit. Lets look at that for a moment shall we? For the sake of argument lets say there was a way for California to exit the United States. Lets look at some numbers and fact about this.
California is over 700B dollars in debit. You think that debit is going vanish when California exits? Nope, you will still owe it but now you won't have the credit and backing of a large economy of the US behind you. You will be a small player on a world stage, deeply in debit with no creditors. Taht money will be due.
Did you know that California is the most populated state in the country? I believe I read some where that california has 10 times the population that its own internal resources, like water and food, can support. In fact California imports a great deal of its water from surrounding states and Mexico. When California leaves the US you don't get to take the water with you. You will have to pay for that water. Except, there is one problem, well actually 700 billion problems.
Then there is food. Its true that Californa grows a shit ton of food but the only way you can do that is because you import so much water. No water, no food, lots of starving people in California. You will have to pay for your food. Whoops, there is that debit again.
With out the water, and the food all those industries that are there now will depart for greener pastures. An I've been to California, its not that green there now. Once those industries start to leave there goes the economy.
I'm not even going to bring up things like earthquake, forest fires, and mud slides that California suffers from.
Still want to leave?
Trump is a dangerous imbecile
THAT thinking right there is the reason you lost the election. You thought he was a imbecile but he clearly isn't. He owns a very large business empire and had a successful tv series. These are are far from the acts of a 'imbecile." An now he will be the next president of the United States
Trump is many things but a imbecile he is not.
There is no stopping him; Trump will soon be president. And I for one welcome our new orange overlord. Iâ(TM)d like to remind him that as a trusted slashdot personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in his underground cheeto dust cave hotels.
Excellent. Good to see someone isn't taking this to seriously.
You know what I hate
Horsehocky. Despite what the whitehouse is preaching there is no evidence of the Russian government having anything to do with rigging the election. All the evidence of the DNC rigging trying to rig the election came from Wikileaks. Which probably got all their information from inside sources.
There are not going to be any oil executive running the government. There might be one in a cabinet position, that isn't a done deal yet, but that is far from running the government. But if the price we have to pay to keep Hillary out of the whitehouse then it will be well worth the price.
There will be no global war because of Trump, that is BS and you know it. As for a loss of the current national health care, then good. Because its garbage. Besides we are not a socialist country anyway.
As for spiraling national debit, we are already in hock up to our eyeballs, mostly thanks to obama. He increased the national debit by more than all 43 presidents before him combined. As for respect on the world stage seems to me with Trump we are already seeing a increase in that respect. Hard not to with all the damage obama did to our respect.
I cast my lot for Johnson too. My decision process seemed to follow yours too. But that being said even with Trump being elected I don't think it will be as bad as people think it will be. I think if anything good does come out of this it will be a recognition of what 3rd party candidate have to offer. An you don't have to vote for the big two.
I have to agree with you. I didn't vote for Hillary because of her attitude. To me it seem like she thought she was entitled to the office. She didn't campaign like Trump did she just seem to coast through the election process.
The DNC itself is also to blame. I honestly feel if they had fielded any one but her, Bernie for one, then we would have a orange overlord to worry about.