"Most people don't know what is legal and what isn't when it comes to copyright."
I don't believe this. What I do believe is that people like to remain ignorant as a way of avoiding responsibility. Deep down, the mom of that 12 year old knew it was too good to be true, but probably avoided thinking about it.
Yes, but how about the last 100? *BSD related also? I thought not.
GET REAL! Kazza should take some of the HEAT.
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Linux, Windows, and other OS are not designed almost spacifically to trade copyrighted material. Kazaa is, and there is the difference.
Since the primary purpose of Kazaa is to tarde pirated music, it stands to reason that perhaps Kazaa should take some of the legal heat. And please, spare everyone the lame argument that Kazaa is "just" a generic file trading app. You know, I know, the world knows that these types of applications are used for ONE thing, trafficing in pirated music and other copyrighted entertainment (as well as wherez).
When you start talking like an adult then *I'll* listen to you. What's the "we'll" thing you mention? You and who else do you represent as a spokesperson? And what's with the "STFU"? Tell you what "bro", I *would* like fries with my sandwich, and yes, please "supersize" my drink.
Not everyone lives in the city. Some of us reside in rural parts still too far for DSL, and even though Comcast serves me, they don't offer high speed out here (65 miles northeast of Seattle).
Re:Big problem: Press Access.
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I don't think we are bugging the right people. Perens and Raymond are preaching to the converted. The only place I have seen their remarks is in Linux pubs and *hard core* IT pubs. Darl makes the Seattle Times and PI every time he opens his trap.
Big problem: Press Access.
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One of the biggest problems with this response to the SCO FUD campaign is that while SCO enjoys excellent access to the mainstream press, both IT press and popular press, the Open Source community responses do not. So, no one out there really hears the Open Source side. This is one good reason that McBride et al keep releasing all this patently absurd hogwash; they know the press will bite, and ignore the other side.
Check out what Verizon has to say about it "The top lawyer for Verizon Communications Inc. (search), William Barr, charged earlier Tuesday during a Senate hearing that music lawyers had resorted to a "campaign against 12-year-old girls" rather than trying to help consumers turn to legal sources for songs online. Verizon's Internet subsidiary is engaged in a protracted legal fight against the RIAA over copyright subpoenas sent Verizon customers."
I have 35 domains at Register, never had a problem. I never pay full price. I think the last one I bagged at $12 a year. I'm sure there are cheaper, but really, $12, I could not care any less.
This is an absolutely silly lawsuit. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that clogs up our legal system and makes the courts unavailable to anyone but the moneyed class. Honestly, this guy could have pointed his domain where ever he wanted or nowhere at all. Register's user interface allows you to modify any part of your domain record, on-line and in real time.
Well, I tend to agree with the parent. eBooks just don't cut it. Nothing beats having *paper* reference material open *next* to your terminal when you're trying to work through something, and nothing beats sitting down in a nice soft chair, turning the pages of a paperback or perhaps some classic volume.
eBooks is one of those technologies looking for a purpose that does not exist.
Man, with a bootleg copy of Visual Studio and Visual Basic for Dummies, I can can write mission critical enterprise level three tier stuff all day long!
There is no such thing as "White Hat" hacking. Hacking is hacking, and when you break into someones network, you are breaking the law.
"OH, I saw you front door was secured with a cheap lock, so I thought I'd come in and drink all your beer and try on all your clean underpants. By the way, I ate all your pizza."
Yeh, those "white hats", all they want is "secure networks"!
Ethics??? Ethics never stopped Slashdotters from downloading copyrighted material, God forbid that the copyright owner have some say in the matter.
Oh, I know this will get me the *flamebait* mod, but honestly, is the only reason that Slashers seem to have no problem with walking all over someone elses copyright because it's a BIG corporation? Ya sure! Not money out of YOUR pocket.
If it was, you might think differently.
Yes, yes, yes. But copyright law is not a simple as two sentences that sound logical. No law is. SCO does have a few lawyers, and obviously, they think they can argue this point to their benefit.
GPL this, and GPL that...
Remember, SCO has said that they intend on floating the idea the the GPL is invalid. So, in SCO's mind, the GPL does not amount to a hill of beans.
Perhaps this is good, because at the end of this bullshit, the legal status of the GPL will be established one way or the other.
As for "competing products" not being able to read these secured documents, well that's the whole point right?
Um, no it is not. The point that unauthorized users shouldn't be able to read the documents. Competing products should be able to read them, provided they know the required keys and can access the DRM server. This requires that MS documents the encryption format. Just as GnuPG etc do.
This may be your point, but perhaps it is not Microsoft's point?
"Most people don't know what is legal and what isn't when it comes to copyright."
I don't believe this. What I do believe is that people like to remain ignorant as a way of avoiding responsibility. Deep down, the mom of that 12 year old knew it was too good to be true, but probably avoided thinking about it.
Yes, but how about the last 100? *BSD related also? I thought not.
Linux, Windows, and other OS are not designed almost spacifically to trade copyrighted material. Kazaa is, and there is the difference.
Since the primary purpose of Kazaa is to tarde pirated music, it stands to reason that perhaps Kazaa should take some of the legal heat. And please, spare everyone the lame argument that Kazaa is "just" a generic file trading app. You know, I know, the world knows that these types of applications are used for ONE thing, trafficing in pirated music and other copyrighted entertainment (as well as wherez).
Ouch. Don't use those long words! My head hurts...
Companies *are not* required to keep resumes.
When you start talking like an adult then *I'll* listen to you. What's the "we'll" thing you mention? You and who else do you represent as a spokesperson? And what's with the "STFU"? Tell you what "bro", I *would* like fries with my sandwich, and yes, please "supersize" my drink.
Oh, you know... inbreed and shoot dogs, knock over mailboxes with baseball bats... That sort of thing... Oh, and read Slashdot all day.
Not everyone lives in the city. Some of us reside in rural parts still too far for DSL, and even though Comcast serves me, they don't offer high speed out here (65 miles northeast of Seattle).
I don't think we are bugging the right people. Perens and Raymond are preaching to the converted. The only place I have seen their remarks is in Linux pubs and *hard core* IT pubs. Darl makes the Seattle Times and PI every time he opens his trap.
One of the biggest problems with this response to the SCO FUD campaign is that while SCO enjoys excellent access to the mainstream press, both IT press and popular press, the Open Source community responses do not. So, no one out there really hears the Open Source side. This is one good reason that McBride et al keep releasing all this patently absurd hogwash; they know the press will bite, and ignore the other side.
Check out what Verizon has to say about it "The top lawyer for Verizon Communications Inc. (search), William Barr, charged earlier Tuesday during a Senate hearing that music lawyers had resorted to a "campaign against 12-year-old girls" rather than trying to help consumers turn to legal sources for songs online. Verizon's Internet subsidiary is engaged in a protracted legal fight against the RIAA over copyright subpoenas sent Verizon customers."
I have 35 domains at Register, never had a problem. I never pay full price. I think the last one I bagged at $12 a year. I'm sure there are cheaper, but really, $12, I could not care any less.
This is an absolutely silly lawsuit. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that clogs up our legal system and makes the courts unavailable to anyone but the moneyed class. Honestly, this guy could have pointed his domain where ever he wanted or nowhere at all. Register's user interface allows you to modify any part of your domain record, on-line and in real time.
Well, I tend to agree with the parent. eBooks just don't cut it. Nothing beats having *paper* reference material open *next* to your terminal when you're trying to work through something, and nothing beats sitting down in a nice soft chair, turning the pages of a paperback or perhaps some classic volume.
eBooks is one of those technologies looking for a purpose that does not exist.
Man, with a bootleg copy of Visual Studio and Visual Basic for Dummies, I can can write mission critical enterprise level three tier stuff all day long!
Of course the parent is modded "Flamebait" as even though it represents a credible argument, it runs contrary to the Slashdot party line.
This is how Slashdot mods deal with issues they can't argue away. Just mod it "flamebait" and ignore...
Who said anything about checking it? What about carry-on?
I've got an old Sinclair Z80 I've been thinking about using as a web server...
There is no such thing as "White Hat" hacking. Hacking is hacking, and when you break into someones network, you are breaking the law.
"OH, I saw you front door was secured with a cheap lock, so I thought I'd come in and drink all your beer and try on all your clean underpants. By the way, I ate all your pizza."
Yeh, those "white hats", all they want is "secure networks"!
Ethics??? Ethics never stopped Slashdotters from downloading copyrighted material, God forbid that the copyright owner have some say in the matter. Oh, I know this will get me the *flamebait* mod, but honestly, is the only reason that Slashers seem to have no problem with walking all over someone elses copyright because it's a BIG corporation? Ya sure! Not money out of YOUR pocket. If it was, you might think differently.
I'm sorry, I was scratching my ass. What was that you said?
Yes, yes, yes. But copyright law is not a simple as two sentences that sound logical. No law is. SCO does have a few lawyers, and obviously, they think they can argue this point to their benefit.
GPL this, and GPL that... Remember, SCO has said that they intend on floating the idea the the GPL is invalid. So, in SCO's mind, the GPL does not amount to a hill of beans. Perhaps this is good, because at the end of this bullshit, the legal status of the GPL will be established one way or the other.
Politely ask sales drones to resend stuff in a non-Doc/Excel/Powerpoint/Viso format.
Pure fantasy.
As for "competing products" not being able to read these secured documents, well that's the whole point right?
Um, no it is not. The point that unauthorized users shouldn't be able to read the documents. Competing products should be able to read them, provided they know the required keys and can access the DRM server. This requires that MS documents the encryption format. Just as GnuPG etc do.
This may be your point, but perhaps it is not Microsoft's point?