So how much money did Bush request in the budget for all this securing and rebuilding and equal-opportunity educating? None. And it's not because Congress ignored the White House's request -- the administration simply failed to include funds for reconstruction or humanitarian aid.
Noone criticizing the US warmongers in the White House said Iraq was peaceful, there would have been no need to send weapons inspectors to Iraq if it were, but the rest of your statement I can agree to;)
First of all it's not the Americans who wage war but the gang around Baby Bush that is the current US administration.
Secondly the head of the gang Mr. Bush was a very weak president until 9/11/2001 -- he probably could have avoided the events of 9/11 if he had wanted to, they weren't at all that surprising, but that's another story.
Like any president before who got elected with a small margin -- and noone ever had a margin as close as Baby Bush, he even got elected with less votes -- he couldn't expect to survive more than one period unless he could produce some extrordinary success. That's what is the main reason for this war.
You can be sure about that. The Bush gang has already openly admitted that they won't stop if Saddam gets killed but they will invade Iraq anyway.
But quite probably they will *claim* the war is over as soon as possible even if military actions go on, like they still do in Afghanistan. This is because the propaganda effect is the most important reason for this war to be waged by the US.
The only problem is, this "war" was started 12 years ago, by Saddam
This is a very comfortable but equally lame excuse.
Fact is this war is started by the US president George Bush as a criminal act against a sovereign state. He comes away with that only because there is noone to hold him responsible.
heh, when did I complain about Europeans not supporting the war?
Don't be silly it's obvious this wasn't meant personally.
they have had 12 years, after all
12 years? First of all they achieved a lot in the beginning and secondly there were no attempts to achieve anything in the last 4 years and then some weeks of weapons inspections which are abandoned as soon as they start to show results -- this argument, countlessly repeated by the US administration, is just ridiculous.
Taken into account how Bush mocked the weapons inspectors it shows they were just thought as a means to trick the UN into backing the war Bush urgently needs to boost his popularity.
if the "rest of the world" doesn't care for us, perhaps we shouldn't deal with them anymore
ROTFLBTC you're taking the symptom for the cause. It's just that a lot of people in the world don't like the arrogance they are treated with by the US administration.
it doesn't seem like the U.S. is really all that bad
that was what could be said about Germany prior to 1933 and the proclamation of the "Ermächtigungsgesetz", something like the "Patiot Act".
What US citizens should remember is that Germany *was* democratic *before* 1933, that the democracy was abolished by more or less democratically elected people and that these people seized power step by step. One of this steps was the Ermächtigungsgesetz, another one the attack of a sovereign state which was disguised as self defence.
I just hope the people of the USA use the options of their constitution to avoid such escalation of power as long as they still can.
Lucky you knowing my motivations better than myself.
I for one consider this moderation exceptionally appropriate.
So how much money did Bush request in the budget for all this securing and rebuilding and equal-opportunity educating? None. And it's not because Congress ignored the White House's request -- the administration simply failed to include funds for reconstruction or humanitarian aid.
He expects Old Europe to clean up the mess.
Ooops, seems you swapped two words, shouldn't it read
"USA is doing this only to free the oppressed oil, nobody cares about the people..."?
But hey, Iraq is peaceful and we're just bullies.
;)
Noone criticizing the US warmongers in the White House said Iraq was peaceful, there would have been no need to send weapons inspectors to Iraq if it were, but the rest of your statement I can agree to
Will it ever end ?
...
Probably, when Baby Bush deploys *his* weapons of mass destruction on.
G. W. Bush, 2003
No, wait.
That was Adolf Hitler in 1933.
That's not surprising when you know the Bush family had very close relations to the Nazis during WW2
So why then did you read this story? There are plenty of other storieas on /.
And BTW in times like these the only news for anyone are those of this evil US attack on world peace.
Why are you Americans doing all this?
First of all it's not the Americans who wage war but the gang around Baby Bush that is the current US administration.
Secondly the head of the gang Mr. Bush was a very weak president until 9/11/2001 -- he probably could have avoided the events of 9/11 if he had wanted to, they weren't at all that surprising, but that's another story.
Like any president before who got elected with a small margin -- and noone ever had a margin as close as Baby Bush, he even got elected with less votes -- he couldn't expect to survive more than one period unless he could produce some extrordinary success. That's what is the main reason for this war.
Where is the evidence thatthey have? I didn't see any 'til now except some US propaganda.
-John Stuart Mills-
words from a long gone century -- but there seem to be forces leading a powerful state that want to turn the clock back to that time.
That's what what the menu bar looked like when I just opened it:
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Though this is a troll this one must be fed:
Bush didn't win the vote, he got elected.
Bush doesn't have morals, he has moralism.
Bush doesn't have class, Blair has.
You can be sure about that. The Bush gang has already openly admitted that they won't stop if Saddam gets killed but they will invade Iraq anyway.
But quite probably they will *claim* the war is over as soon as possible even if military actions go on, like they still do in Afghanistan. This is because the propaganda effect is the most important reason for this war to be waged by the US.
Reality TV? That is an antagonism!
It's not the media it's your president who is fixated on war.
Tell me who came up with that "war on terrorism" talking?
We are not targetting civillians
I bet they don't care if you targetted them or not when you hit them
I bet that's about the same they tell you in Israel about american women standing in front of bulldozers.
The only problem is, this "war" was started 12 years ago, by Saddam
This is a very comfortable but equally lame excuse.
Fact is this war is started by the US president George Bush as a criminal act against a sovereign state. He comes away with that only because there is noone to hold him responsible.
Hey, someone is speaking sense at last ... and instantly it get's modded Flamebait
OK, I just thought that was his third forename, I'll call him by his second then: Herbert
Could someone please explain to Mr Bush that he is in Washington ruling a super power state and not in Hollywood making movies.
Why does this remind me of the Soviet Union when they came to "help" their neighbour states?
Better the Pentagon use it for something constructive
...
If you consider propagating lies like "Iraqi Scud-Attacks on Kuweit" constructive
heh, when did I complain about Europeans not supporting the war?
Don't be silly it's obvious this wasn't meant personally.
they have had 12 years, after all
12 years? First of all they achieved a lot in the beginning and secondly there were no attempts to achieve anything in the last 4 years and then some weeks of weapons inspections which are abandoned as soon as they start to show results -- this argument, countlessly repeated by the US administration, is just ridiculous.
Taken into account how Bush mocked the weapons inspectors it shows they were just thought as a means to trick the UN into backing the war Bush urgently needs to boost his popularity.
if the "rest of the world" doesn't care for us, perhaps we shouldn't deal with them anymore
ROTFLBTC
you're taking the symptom for the cause. It's just that a lot of people in the world don't like the arrogance they are treated with by the US administration.
and love being left the hell alone,
So then why do you complain about Old Europeans not supporting your wars?
When it comes to clean up the mess you prepare it seems the rest of the world is very welcome to you.
seems to hate Bush
Not hate but despise and he makes it hard not to.
it doesn't seem like the U.S. is really all that bad
that was what could be said about Germany prior to 1933 and the proclamation of the "Ermächtigungsgesetz", something like the "Patiot Act".
What US citizens should remember is that Germany *was* democratic *before* 1933, that the democracy was abolished by more or less democratically elected people and that these people seized power step by step.
One of this steps was the Ermächtigungsgesetz, another one the attack of a sovereign state which was disguised as self defence.
I just hope the people of the USA use the options of their constitution to avoid such escalation of power as long as they still can.