While a specific cop might obtain information through an illegal wire tap, and not be able to use that information, he could "mention" or "suggest" that another cop should "pay attention" to that person, without mentioning why or where the suspicion arouse.
This was the case in NY recently, where units were tipped off to suspected drug dealers by other officers participating in illegal wire taps. With this scenerio, it is hard to prove the "Poison Tree" because no one is aware of the wire tapping except the officer who dropped the hint.
When, and if the defendant learns of the wire tap, they have to prove that all the evidence that has been gathered legally by the tipped-off officer was a result of a wire tap the other officer made.
As you can imagine, this is a difficult thing to prove in court, especially since the officer who is participating in the illegal wire tapping is smart enough not to write down is suggestion on paper.
I think that we should all change our X servers to Y severs, thus side stepping the patent all together... [And if they try to patent that, then we still have A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W & Z to go through before it becomes a problem again.
I get the "All circuits are busy" message also in Queens, NY (718). Growing up I always thought the phone companyies had a 100% connection rate, but I guess that was just marketing....
Why should the Government have the right to snoop? I find the line of reasoning that they need the ability to monitor email & documents to enforce laws to be a bit distrubing. If the government is allowed to see anything it wants, should we not demand to see everything the Government does? Full disclosure only works if it is enforced on both sides. And please don't use the "national security" argument. I think that it is an illusion. "National security" is a key word for keeping something a secret because it gives the "Government" an "Advantage." This "Advantage" does not always translate into an "Advantage" to the citizens of that country. And frankly, I'm getting tired of my government's attempts to keep its advantage at my expense.
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While a specific cop might obtain information through an illegal wire tap, and not be able to use that information, he could "mention" or "suggest" that another cop should "pay attention" to that person, without mentioning why or where the suspicion arouse.
This was the case in NY recently, where units were tipped off to suspected drug dealers by other officers participating in illegal wire taps. With this scenerio, it is hard to prove the "Poison Tree" because no one is aware of the wire tapping except the officer who dropped the hint.
When, and if the defendant learns of the wire tap, they have to prove that all the evidence that has been gathered legally by the tipped-off officer was a result of a wire tap the other officer made.
As you can imagine, this is a difficult thing to prove in court, especially since the officer who is participating in the illegal wire tapping is smart enough not to write down is suggestion on paper.
I think that we should all change our X servers to Y severs, thus side stepping the patent all together... [And if they try to patent that, then we still have A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W & Z to go through before it becomes a problem again.
I get the "All circuits are busy" message also in Queens, NY (718). Growing up I always thought the phone companyies had a 100% connection rate, but I guess that was just marketing....
Why should the Government have the right to snoop? I find the line of reasoning that they need the ability to monitor email & documents to enforce laws to be a bit distrubing. If the government is allowed to see anything it wants, should we not demand to see everything the Government does? Full disclosure only works if it is enforced on both sides. And please don't use the "national security" argument. I think that it is an illusion. "National security" is a key word for keeping something a secret because it gives the "Government" an "Advantage." This "Advantage" does not always translate into an "Advantage" to the citizens of that country. And frankly, I'm getting tired of my government's attempts to keep its advantage at my expense.
Eric Bronnimann
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