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DeCSS Author Arrested
TyFoN sent us a link to a CNN story where you can read that the author of DeCSS was arrested for violating copyright law. If anyone can find something in English, I'd really appreciate it... the usual translation engines seem to be less then enchanted with norwegian. Update: here's an English version of said story.
This is truly a sad day.
"Being alive is a crock of shit." --Kilgore Trout
Am I wrong or is this simply a pseudo-repeat of the article 2 or 3 ones down which is from the guy's mouth.... or is this the actual author this time? Why is this article not psoed on the english CNN?
...by the actual guy arrested?
I think it is here
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was he/she arrested in his/her native country or here is the US?
His father was arrested because he owns the site on which DeCSS was posted. A mobile phone and two computers were also taken.
Matt Thompson - Actuality - Insert product here.
The article has a reader feedback poll. Could someone make a stab at translating it, I want to know which way to vote.
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Open mind, insert foot.
Could anyone give me a URL to a good translator please. I would really like to read this article.
Well, things are starting to get a bit out of hand. Before I mumble on about real issues I would like to ask a question. What is the best way to protect your personal possessions from theft, 1) Buy good locks for your doors and windows, or 2) Leave the door open and sue anyone who steals anything.
This is no longer about Jon Johansen, or the cracking of DeCSS, this is about Abuse of privilege. In any country the legal system is paid for by the people and is there to protect the people and other legal entities (including corporations). The legal system is not there to replace adequate safe guards, do we complain when prisoners start law suits at the publics expense because they got the wrong kind of peanut butter? Do we complain when able-bodied people call an ambulance to take them for a checkup? The answer to this is yes (I hope) because it's abuse of the system. In the same way we should protest that entities like the MPAA think they can throw their weight around at the public's expense due to little more then their own failings, yes I know they pay for their own lawyers but the courts etc. all come from the taxpayer.
The issues surrounding the right to access legal acquired information etc. have been covered in other posts, but I would like to bring to people's attention another abuse of the CSS system. The CSS system is there to protect against piracy and to enforce the region coding system. I am angered by the abuse of the region coding system, a DVD disk costs about twice as much in the UK as it does in the US, and quite often does not have as many added extras (interviews, clips etc..). The region coding system forces us to buy often inferior products at always exaggerated prices. Naturally a booming market in imported DVD's and 'chipped' players sprung up but the MPAA lobbied the British government into a large scale crackdown of the 'Grey imports'. Once again taxpayer money wasted in support of big business screwing over the overage joe.
For these reasons I will continue to host a mirror at http://www.exaflop.org and urge other mirror owners to email me and pass on their URLs to aid in the construction of a larger list of mirrors. The MPAA and it's members need to learn three lessons, 1) Attempting to control legal use of a legally purchased product is futile, 2) They cannot continue to abuse privilege, 3) There is no putting of the baby back into the womb once it has been born.
Yes, behold the power of greedy corparte america and its deep pockets and lawyers with no conscience.
/ k.d / earth trickle / Monkeys vs. Robots Films /
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
Ok, what i'm gonna propose
is to organize a meeting in norway,
the maxmimum number of person should come,
to discuss what we can do,
and do it...
I'm personnaly living in france,
and i'm ready to come.
... we need to face the consequences. Oh well, just another techno-martyr.
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I was always under the impression that Norway did not do this kind of stuff. They seemed (do they still?) to have a very open stance on crypto and other such issues and have been rated highly by people who monitor 'internet rights' as I could no-so-eloquently put it.
This seems to be an about turn over what Norway has been doing in the past, which AFAIK has been almost nothing to regulate computer and internet use.
One wonders how much pressure the Norwegian Government has received to do this, if any at all, and if they have, then from who? The US Government? The MPAA?
Folks, the first article was about his house being raided by the pigs. This article is about his actual arrest. Although I can't read Norwegian, the Slashdot header seems to indicate that Jon is currently imprisoned for writing code.
Well here's a Norwegian to English online dictionary to get y'all started:s h/
http://dictionaries.travlang.com/NorwegianEngli
I just heard on Norwegian radio news that Jon will not be held economically responsible, which must be a great relief. As for the Norwegian CNN article, it doesn't hold much more new information. It does though, as most other Norwegian media today, "point out" that the main use of DeCSS is to copy DVD discs illegally (of course it never mentions the price of blank DVD disks, the price of burners, and the size of the actual movies).
:)
I also completely understand it if "outsiders" get the idea that most Linux users are ruthless piracy freaks, after reading all the mindless articles around.
Jon is even on the front page of the largest (I think) norwegian tabloid paper today. Our "economic crime" police division (ØKOKRIM) shows it's pathetic servile attitude in doing anything that the mighty Americans tell them to. One can only hope that this tragic case opens the eyes of people to what a fight for people's rights it really is!
A norwegian Linux related page runs a petition for Jon, and it seems to be going really well. The wheels are in motion!
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
The article in question says just about the same as the VG story already translated in the previous /. article. Here's a translation of the poll, asking "Should cracking protection codes be punishable?"
"Ja, det er derfor kodene er der" = "Yes, that's why the codes are there"
"Nei, mediegigantene overbeskytter seg" = "No, the media giants are being overly protective"
"Bare hvis det utnyttes kommersielt" = "Only if it's used commercially".
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"It's natural to expect there might be people doing stupid things with computers." - Michael Vatis, NIPC/FBI
of the movie Rollerball with James Caan.
In that movie, corporations ran entire cities/countries. They were the government.
The more stories like this, the more that the movie is somewhat prophetic.
Jon and his father have not been arrested. They've "simply" had charges placed on them. Even if Norway is probably the closest Europe comes to communism, we still don't arrest people without a fair trial (except for temporary periods, which often lasts for months or years.. humm... I'll probably be shot by government droids now :)
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
I thought the agreement was that he would be immune from prosecution as long as he stopped developing DeCSS? Did I miss something?
Who am I?
Why am here?
Where is the chocolate?
What is your Slash Rating?
I'll be wearing mine proudly come next casual day :-).
And I think it's time to add links to those Court documents pointed-out here recently :-).
This shouldn't have been posted as a new separate story, it's really just an update to the original "Jon Johansen Indicted..." one IMHO.
Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
Thought exists only as an abstraction
CNet: Court blocks online publishing of DVD decryption tool... yes.. a truly sad day.
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
I, for one, didn't read the other article and found this post useful. Since I don't have time to read everyt article I don't see where an occasional cross/repost is harmful (barring spam-level proportions)
Ok so this guy is being prosecuted in Norway, but this action no doubt was prompted to influence the case(s) in the US.
If it is decided that DECSS is illegal due to being illegally reversed engineered, the reason being the person doing the reverse engineering clicked on a licence agreement, well will it not effect the whole of the shrink wrap software industry.
How does company A get thier software to write the file format of company B. Well by reverse engineering it of course. This is one example, but there must be hundreds of precidents of reverse engineering of software and hardware with the standard shrink wrap licence.
So does this mean for example Microsoft can be sued by the makers of Word Perfect as to use the software they must have clicked on the licence agreement first. Or Microsoft can then sue anyone that tries to write software that can write thier file formats, or interface to thier protocols.
It makes you wonder, doesn't it, replace the words DECSS and the two parties names by any large company and any peice of software and you can see the simularity.
Maybe the software industry will realise this and rally behind us.
Or maybe they would like to see application barriers to entry being backed by the legal system. In the short term this is great for the corporations but in the long term it will hurt them and also the consumer looses out totally.
Ice Tiger
"Because we are not employing at entry level, offshoring will kill our industry stone dead."
If I woke up as CmdrTaco and found this news I would post it too before having seen that it was already posted during the night. Its an emotional issue, probably the most important one ever to have the Linux and Slashdot communities at the center. This fight is about our right to be who we are, and persecution 16 year old - for no other reason then that he and his friends were smarter than a multi-billion dollar industry - must never be forgotten.
The article from Norwegian CNN looks like the same one that was linked from the last thread from Norwegian newspaper VG. Someone posted a translation here. It is a pretty good article, and includes Jon correction that DeCSS is not "a crack that allows copying of DVDs", but "a crack that allows _playing_ of DVDs". We have to continue to spread that message whenever we talk the press. This is not, and was never, about piracy.
This does mean war people, and it is just the beginning. The Information society _cannot_ both preserve the flows of information and enforce the appropriation of it, and as long as industry and government continues to kling to this contradiction, the costs to freedom will be without limit. As of yet, these are only a few paranoid associations who have not yet been actually threatened to the life: and yet they are ready to take it to the level of abusing the rights of a 16 year old. When the shit truly hits the fan, everything we love here stands to be lost.
I'm very afraid that when the overhyped overpriced Internet companies of today cannot live up to the growth and revenue they have promised, we will become the scapegoats. If your information company is loosing money, blame piracy and try to get the punishments lifted. If your Internet company is loosing money, blame cacheing, deep linking, and the use of Agents until it becomes illegal to link to a page on the WWW without permission (a violation of the very idea behind the media, not to speak of Freedom). If your tech company isn't making money, try to increase the already outdated patent laws beyond any possible rhyme and reason.
Can they win? Of course not. The genie is out of the bottle, and now that we have had glimpse of Freedom, we will never be giving up. The question is how much damage they can do to the world on the way down, and the answer is frightening.
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We cannot reason ourselves out of our basic irrationality. All we can do is learn the art of being irrational in a reasonable way.
The poll on the right asks: "Do you think that it ought to be a criminal offence to crack protection codes?" The options are: (1) "Yes, that's why they're there." (2) "No, the media giants are over-protecting themselves." (3) "Only if it is exploited commercially."
The police has confiscated two of his computers and his cellular phone, and he has given his passwords to the police.
We really need to fight this!
They have money. Poor hackers can't compete with that. However, we do have the knowledge of a million hackers worldwide. The MPAA will face a script kiddie attack like they have never seen.
How does the legal system work ?
Would a defense fund be a good or a bad thing ?
Could the eff here affect the outcome of legislation by helping Jon in Norway ?
For all you Kevin Mitnick lovers out there, it looks like you have a new cause. Free Yon!
Yeah, I know, go ahead and flame me.
Beware TPB
The Question:
Should it be punishable to break
copy protection?
the voting options:
1. Yes, it should be punishable
2. No, the mediagigants are overprotective
3. Only if used commercially
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(Disclaimer: I'm Swedish so I might have gotten the exact wording wrong)
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I have thus far held off on buying a DVD drive for my system because it would be next to useless on it. In the environment that makes this whole decss flap possible, I've decided that the only real way to avoid trouble is just to never buy any product that incorporates copy protection of this nature. If the industry wants to offer me the choice of watching it in Windows or not at all, I'll choose not at all, thanks, and go with content created by independent authors posted on the Internet. I will never buy an encrypted DVD or DVD-CD, I will never buy a DVD device and because I question the morality of anyone who could work for a group like the RIAA in the face of shit like this, I will never hire anyone who worked for them.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
No offense to Norwegian readers, but don't the Norwegian authorities regret their collaboration/alliance with Nazi Germany?
Haven't they learnt from history that individuals are not supposed to be supressed? The UN & EC (member?) Charter of Rights, an probably the Norwegian constitution all guarantee freedom of speech.
It is highly contentious that anti-cracking laws (if they even apply) could override freedom-of-speech. And dangerous too.
I will hope the Norwegian authorities treat him decently (after a 6 hour interrogation?) and release him on his own recognizance. Charitably, I will hope they are just doing this for a test-case.
-- Robert
arrested? for breaking the law??? HOW DARE THEY!!!!
Oh come off it already. Karma is not the dick measuring contest you think it is, despite your best efforts. I'm not sure if you know this, but other users can't even see your karma. The only people that "fish" for karma are the morons that troll around pointing it out, as well. So either post things of substance or don't post at all.
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I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
AC comes to the rescue again....
The translator is here.
original article: http://www.cnn.no/TEKNOLOGI/IT/0001/25/5838915.htm l
CNN NORWAY -- 16-year lod Jon Johansen broke the codes which protect DVD-disks. Now mediagiants like Sony, Warner and Disney want to punish the norwegian. Monday he spent 7 hours in police questioning.
"We have filed charges against Jon and Per Johansen on behalf of MPA and DVD CCA", confirms lawyer Espen Tøndel from Simons Musæus to Verdens Gang.
Motion Picture Association (MPA) is the organisation representing the interests of USA's seven largest movie producers: Walt Disney, Sony Pictures, MGM, Paramount Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Universal Studio and Warner Bros.
DVD CCA controlls and protects copyrights on DVD products.
Jon and his father are charged with violating copyrights and penalcodes [sic!] after the 16-year old participated in an international ring that developed and distributed the program DeCSS. The program makes it possible to copy DVD movies.
"The charges are invalid. The codes on DVD disks do not provide copy protection, but play-back protection. All that we've done is to make it possible to play back DVD on our computers", Johansen told Verdens Gang after being released from questioning monday evening.
The "agency to combat economic crimes" also searched the home of pupil Jon Johansen (16) from Steinsholt in Vestfold.
Johansen were forced to hand over his mobile phone, computers, a number of CD's and the passwords to the computers.
The District Attorney Inger Marie Sunde from the "agency to combat economic crimes" confirms to the Evening Post that a search warrant was obtained for searching the home of Jon Johansen.
Sunde says the agency takes a serious view of the type of crime that the 16-year has been charged with.
Johansen became known in computing circles last year when it became public knowledge that he had participated in the group MoRE that broke the codes which protect DVD movies
Already at that time, when Jon Johansen was 15, was he contacted by the firm Simonsen Musæus which asked him to remove the information about DeCSS.
Last week, MPA's view was supported in an american court of law, so that links to DeCSS had to be removed from several american webpages.
So far, they are the only ones in the world against whom charges have been filed, after MPA last week had their view confirmed in an american court that all internet-links to DeCSS had to be removed. But he does not regret that he came forward in full view after the news about DeCSS became known.
"Somebody has to fight this fight", he says and prepares for a long night.
Johansen has posted his version of the Agency's action on the website www.slashdot.org
CNN Norway has written this article with contributions from Verdens Gang.
The poll asks "Should it be illegal to break the protection codes?" and the three options are (from top to bottom):
-Yes, that's why the codes are there.
-No, the movie producers are overprotective
-Only if it is used for commercial purposes.
Yahoo! Norway posted this directly off of our first Story last night. Intertran translates it terribly but its a summary of everything we said. http://no.news.yahoo.com/000125/1/q10.html
Oh I shouldnt have done that.... now you will bomb my e-mail address .... ph33r (#&&(*$*(#@
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran
Does a passable job on norwegian.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing for money.
Second, the film industry is reneging on it's deal with the DeCSS people. The letter (published on Slashdot) made it clear no action would be taken against people who removed the source code from their site. This is sheer naked hostility, far beyond anything DeCSS could possibly warrant.
Third, IMHO, this is because of the Californian judge ruling against the trade secret motion by the film industry. I think they wanted blood, and went where they could get some. In short, it's legalised revenge for loosing in court. (I think this is what we should fear the most. It means that they believe themselves outside the law, and will seek revenge for every defeat they suffer in the courts.)
Lastly, this goes waaaay beyond DeCSS, the potental for piracy, or anything else. This is Corporate Government. Those who fear the "New World Order" of a World-wide government should open their eyes. It's here, but it's not the UN, the EU, or the NSA. It's Microsoft, Hollywood, AOL, and the other multinational giants. THEY are your "New World Order", not some dweeb in a suit who got voted in for that afternoon. By fearing Big Government, people put power into the large multinational, faceless Corporations. And they have become more powerful than any elected Government has ever been. What's more, you can't vote them out. Your representitives can't vote for impeachment. You are powerless. And the amusing thing? This was all possible, because people were scared of a few jelly-bean addicted nuts, stuck in an oval office with nothing to do but make prank calls on the radio.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
This is going to be a landmark fight...this will help choose between a dark, corp. based planet, or one that an indivigual's rights are balanced against national and corp. rights. We loose this, and the people on this planet are screwed blue.
It sounds dramatic, but it really is.
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DeCSS is not illegal. No one has passed any law which this software breaks. This is just a bunch of unethical, profiteering gluttons flexing their "legal" muscles in an effort to scare him off. If that doesn't work and they actually try to bring him to crominal court, their case will deflate quickly because he hasn't broken the law.
Look, let's get one thing straight: I am sick, positively, physically revolted at how "Open Source" bigots are happy to condone what amounts to Coporate Murder. It's bad enough that your "Open Source" software, like linus and BSD, are founded on what are obviously socialist principle (written by an aging hippie who has probably neither showered nor shaved in the last 5 years), but that they are also so blatently opposed to the good coporations which not only founded (Hudson Bay Co., etc) but run this great country of ours. It sickens me, too, to see that the U.S. has done nothing to prosecute this guy or lousy pornogropher of a father, who deserves to be locked up for nothing more than fathering such a disrespectful, anti-capitalist godd-for-nothing punk.
I hope you slashdorks realize what you're doing. The basic unit of freedom in America is free enterprise, even though you'd all love so much to go join some commune, where you can engage in "free-love" acts with whatever disease-infested, immoral slut you can get drunk enough, some of were proud to say that we lived in a god-fearing nation.
It's socialist liberals like you worthless shits and Bill 'Comrade' Clinton that what's wrong with societ today, not the MPAA. Open source that, why don'cha? You liberals make me sick.
This site DeCSS Central, has some very good information and insight into the DeCSS hoopla.
Plus some good Linux DVD related links.
-d9
This might have been suggested before.
In the cases where the law can do nothing to help us (perhaps even inhibit us) with our own internet rights, the only action the internet user is capable of generating against corporate bullies is to raise awareness.
In the same way that we boycot spammers with the RBL and the UDP, a list of websites owned by communities who infringe the rights of net users that could be accessed by all net users could benefit. How many people actually KNOW about Amazon/Etoy/MPAA/etc? Probably the population of slashdot readers. How it should be implemented would have to be described, but if web proxy software could pop up "warning, you are about to enter a website of a known abuser of peoples rights, click here for the reason why", it would certainly gain attention.
where corporate rights outway human rights. Looks like Katz was more on target than many here gave him credit.
Corporations are making more and more progress every year towards becoming more powerful than the governments that were put in place to stop them and other no goodnicks from hurting the people. It is about time that the federal government and the state governments bring the movie and music industries (and possibly closed-source software industry too) to justice for their abuse of individuals' rights. It is time for the people to put the corporations in their place. Individual rights and personal liberty are more important than the success of corporations/governments. I certainly hope that DeCSS will now be used by as many people to pirate as many dvd movies as possible to show the movie industry what happens when they step on people's rights.
When they ask me for my reason for returning it, I'll simply say, "They threw a Norwegian kid in jail for figuring out how one of these works. I'm not going to subsidize their lawsuits, so I'm boycotting DVDs and DVD players."
I really, really hate not having a cool toy like a DVD player, but screw it--I despise the behavior of these companies and I will not endorse their behavior by paying them for this technology.
I wonder what all else I'll have to stop using or buying, and I doubt I can make a difference, but so what? I'm not going to pay these companies to "protect" me from this kid.
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Eh? You should really read some more history. Norway was INVADED by germany. Norway shot and sunk the german warship "blucher" when it was coming in the Oslo fjord.
The problem was that norway didn't have very much defence in those days. There were some cannons shooting at boats, and a pretty nifty resistance-movement, but except for that - nothing.
But - the government never ever supported nazi germany. The government the nazi instantiated of course did - it was lead by Quisling - who was executed after the war ended.
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I merely found it interesting that he posted the exact same messge in two separate threads. Did you know, there's this feature whereby you can embed html tags in your comments? I mean, I've even seen people use it to link to other relevent posts they may have written. The cross-post wouldn't have stood out so much if it wasn't a relatively long comment that I had just seen at the top of the thread a couple of stories down.
PS: If I believed that karma was a "dick measuring contest" as you point out, would I have posted a comment that was sure to be moderated down?
They haven't figured it out yet, those lusers in suits.
I'm going to put up a prominent link to this on my personal web site and just hope they try to tell me to remove a link to a Public Record.
Let me clarify things here:
Kevin Mitnick was arrested for making DeCSS, who just got out of jail for trying to break into Microsoft's computer systems, attempting to get the source code. He was attempting to make Windows open sourced to help out his buddy Linus Torvalds, but got caught.
The Norway Post has a (very) short article in English.
The National Authority of Fraud Investigation(ØKOKRIM) yesterday searched the home of a 16-year old student in Vestfold.
Two personal computers were confiscated.
Both Jon Johnsen and his father were taken in for questioning last night, after they had been reported to the police by several large US multimedia companies.
Jon Johnsen became internationally known, after he cracked the code for copying DVD-films just before Christmas.
Both father and son are charged with violating the copyright laws, and could face up to 2-3 years in jail, according to VG.
Jon Johnsen was questioned for eight hours, and had to turn in his mobile phone, his pass words and several discettes.
He claimss that the charges are wrong. -The DVD codes are not copy-protection, but replay-protection, he says, claiming the companies are trying to infringe on his right to fredom of expression.
This really pisses me off.
Seems like if you have enough money, you can get whoever pisses you off a little bit arrested these days... People in general accusing others of next, it will be rich girls who wanna get revenge on their ex-boyfriends.
Eh...
This really pisses me off.
Seems like if you have enough money, you can get whoever pisses you off a little bit arrested these days... People in general accusing others of next, it will be girls who want to get revenge on their ex-boyfriends.
Eh...
This is getting way out of hand. The next thing we know it's going to be illegal to own a debugger and listen to your friends CDs that you borrow.
Here is a link to the Petition for Jon
http://linuxguiden.dhs.org/protest.php
Anyone capable of reading Norwegian, (or not) should sign up.
This is just a quick'n'dirty translation.
(I hope you won't mind that i post this anonymously)
[translation begins]
CNN NORWAY -- 16 year old Jon Johansen broke the codes protecting DVD discs. Now mediagiants like Sony, Warner and Disney want to punish the norwegian. Monday he was interrogated by the police for seven hours.
- We have reported Jon and Per Johansen to the police on behalf of MPA and DVD CCA, confirms lawyer Espen Tøndel by Simonsen Musæus to VG [a norwegian tabloid newspaper]
Motion Picture Association (MPA) is the organization who protect the intrests for the seven lagest movie coorporations in USA: Walt Disney, Sony Pictures, MGM, Paramount Studios and Warner Bros.
DVD CCS control and protect copyright on DVD-products.
Jon and his father are charged for violations of the copyrightlaw, and the criminal code after the 16 year old have participated in a international ring developing and distributing the software DeCSS. The software facilitates copying of DVD-movies.
- The charges are erronous. The codes on DVD-discs are not a copyprotection, but a protection against playback. We only mede it possible to to play back DVDs on our computers, said Johansen to VG after he was released from interrogation monday evening.
Økokrim [the norwegian department of the police handling economic crime] searched this monday the home of the schoolpupil Jon Johansen (16) from Steinsholdt in Vestfold.
Johansen had to hond over his cellphone, computers, some cd-discs and reveal the passwords to the computers.
The chief attorney in økokrim Inger Marie Sunde confirms to Aftenposten [A large norwegian newspaper] that a warrant have been given by the court to the police to search Jon Johansens home.
Sunde says økokrim take the kind of crimes the 16 year old is charged with seriously.
Johansen became a celebrity i the computer scene when it became known last year that he had participated in the group MoRE who broke the protectioncodes for the DVD-films.
Allready then, when Jon Johansen was 15 years old, was he contacted by the company Simonsen Musæus, who asked him to remove the information about DeCSS.
Last week MPA got support in an american court, that links to DeCSS must be removed from american pages.
They are so far the only ones in the world who have been charged after MPA last week got the consent in american court that all internet-links to DeCSS must be removed. But he does not regret that he appeared with full name after the news of DeCSS waqs known.
- Some have to take this fight, he said cheerfully and prepares on a long night.
Johansen have presented his version of Økokrims action on the website www.slashdot.org.
[translation ends]
This article war originally written in norwegian by CNN Norway with assistance from Verdens Gang [VG] and is copyrighted in it's original form by CNN norway
The whole CNN story details the awful consequences that await you if you "hack your way through the codes meant to protect the products from downloading" (clueless, ain't it?) It presents NO arguments for the other side, it just describes the might of the recording companies who go for the boy, his father and everybody else in the freaking universe. I'm not normally paranoid, but this story might be a part of the same campaign it describes. Remember what CNN is and who it belongs to. Go figure.
Sorry for my sometimes bad english, but here goes:
- start of article -
Media giant threatens 16 year old computer genius
CNN Norway -- 16 year old Jon Johansen cracked the codes that protect the DVD discs. Now, mediagiants like Sony, Warner and Disney wants to punish the norwegian. This Monday he sat 7 hours in police interrigation.
- We have sued Jon and Per Johansen on behalf of MPA and DVD CCA, confirms Espen Tøndel, a lawyer at the lawfirm Simonsen Musæus.
Motion Picture Association (MPA) is the assocation
that preserves the interests of the 7 largest movie companies in the US; Walt Disney, Sony Pictures, MGM, Paramount Pictures, 20th Century Fox. Universal Studios and Warner Bros.
DVD CCA is the association that controls and protects the copyrights on DVD products.
Jon and his father is charged with violation of the copyright law, and the "punishment law", since
the 16 year old has participated in an internation ring that developed and distributed the program DeCSS. The program makes it possible to copy DVD-movies.
- The charges is wrong. The code on the DVD discs is not a copyprotection, but a playing protection.
We only made it possible to play DVD movies on our own computers, said Johansen to VG after he was released from the interrogation monday night.
Økokrim also searched the home of the 16 year old
school pupil, from Steinsholt in Vestfold.
Johansen had to give up his cell. phone, computers, CD's and all the passwords on his computers.
The State Attorney in Økokrim, Inger Marie Sunde,
confirms to Aftenposten
that the interrogation courts has given the police
it's permission for them to search the home of Jon Johansen.
Sunde says that Økokrim takes crime like Jon has been charged for, very seriously.
Johansen became a celebrity in the computer circles when it was learned that last year he had been a member of the group MoRE, that cracked the
protection codes to the DVD movies.
Already at that time, when Jon Johansen was 15, he
was contacted by the firm Simonsen Musæus, who asked him to remove the information regarding DeCSS.
Last week, the MPA got an approval in an American
court to remove all links to DeCSS from all American sites.
They (Jon and his dad) are the only ones in the world that have been charged, since the MPA got an approval from an American court to remove all Internet links to DeCSS. But he doesn't regret that he came out with his full name after the news
about DeCSS was known.
- Somebody has to fight this, he says, and prepares for a long night.
Johansen has posted his version about the Økokrim
actions on the website Slashdot.org
CNN Norway has written this article with the help of Verdens Gang.
- end of article -
(The top box contains some information about DVD,
while the second box ask your opinion on this case; Should it be a crime to crack protection codes; (top choice) yes, thats why the codes are there (2nd choice)no, the mediagiants are protecting themselves, (3rd choice) only if it is used commercially.
I'm just curious. Aren't the number of lines on british TVs greater than on american TVs? (Pal vs NTSC). So are British DVDs having more data and a better picture? The country code is an annoyance.
I agree this whole DSS is getting well out of hand.
Well, sorry about the duplicate post but I figured a more-or-less duplicate news item was worthy of a more-or-less duplicate comment. Becuase the last news item was posted so late at night only a small percentage of slashdoters read it, which is why it was posted again. This is the same reason I posted the comment again. I appologise if this offended.
On the karma point, over a certain level karma is irrelivent (25 I think), once you have the +1 bonus there is no real meaning to karma and I honestly don't care.
So if their are any moderators reading this please mod this down to -1, that way I don't gain any Karma and this guy can be happy. If this doen't work I'll post a nice little troll comment later today to lose some Karma and settle this once and for all.
I just took a look at the Norweigan article...at the bottom is a link back to the slashdot article:
h tml
;)
/their/ link back to the article, as an Anonymous Coward, the posts are all in flat mode at threshold 0. Consequently, of course the first posts I see are Anonymous Cowards posting people's email addresses and web sites and proclaiming that we should all "e-mail bomb" these people. I think that is the last thing we want to present to the public at large. Perhaps you could change the default Anonymous Coward threshhold to something like 2, to avoid presenting ourselves as wackos to the casual reader/public?
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/01/24/2024233.s
So apparently we have slashdotting reporters in our ranks
Anyway, when I follow
Jazilla.org - the Java Mozilla
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
This has me very very pissed off. I am boycotting all companies involved. I am going to "spam" them with letters. Note, not email. Handwritten! emails are rarely read. When you hand write mail, put it in an envelope, stamp it and post it. It takes effort. I am going to mail as much people as I can, the companies involved, law makers and what not. Surely, one person alone cannot make an impact, but if everyone can freaking speak with ACTIONS instead of typing away here. Maybe, something will happen. If nothing happens, at least it will be nice for them to know that they have a few thousand angry people at them. GAwd, If only I could be God for an hour.
------ Curiosity killed the cat. {satisfaction brought it back | it didn't die ignorant | lack of it is killing mankind
I reckon the petition is meant for Norwegians only. It won't stand stronger when signed by hundreds of foreigners unable to understand what they've signed!
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
WHICH Law? In WHICH jurisidiction? What PATENT did he violate?
PAL DVD: 702*576 24fps
When played, you get NTSC at 29.97 fps (inserting duplicate fields) but PAL at 25 fps by speeding everything up (yes, it's true :)
Now, judging from this, PAL DVDs are a lot better ... but. Often, the region 1 versions have higher bitrate and more content. Region 2 DVDs just have a lot of languages and subtitles ... and since bitrate is very important, I do import all my DVDs from DVD Boxoffice
it's in my head
By far, the easiest way to stop these people from ripping their CDs is to distribute MP3s. Just the popular songs, the ones they give out to radios. Would that be hard? And I don't understand why ripping DVDs is wrong. How many people are able to upload a DVD to their server? It seems that everyone has a web page, even little mom and pop stores that they use to make more money. Where are the audio and video distributors?
Handguns are only good for killing people.
They serve no other purpose. You can't go hunting with them, so that leaves target practice (which is just PRACTICING shooting people) and shooting people.
Shooting people is illegal, so therefore owning, manufacturing, or designing handguns should be illegal.
So why aren't they illegal?
Cryptanalysis is a well established, time honored activity. Be afraid, be very afraid. Next time they'll outlaw electronics, because somebody can use the knowledge and build a radio receiver to intercept broadcasts of (horrors!) copyrighted material.
Moderate this down (-1, You Are Not A Cryptanalyst)
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Not having tried myself, I've heard the DVD players scramble the out signal so that you can't record a DVD movie into a VCR. So it may not be that simple :)
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
Then don't read them.
And the only karma you should be worrying about is your own.
the post should read "alleged author", should it not?
#include "sig.h"
... being the international bully-boy.
Its obvious those that create movies do not want it togo the way of MP3s with hundreds of ftp servers serving up illegal MP3s. There reaction is total perdicatable, they want to nip this in the bud.
//+" and "Disc Muncher" all programs that were for sale that allowed you to make copies of apple //e flopies, even those that were copy protected. I don't think we need to go back to that era where each disc had its own copy protection which made them more likely to crash and made it more necessary to back them up. Those copy programs were for sale and legal. How was that different? (besides apple program writers didn't have a strong lobby?)
That being said, I think they're being ridiculous in there attemt to stop DeCSS.
I think back to the old days of "locksmith" and "Copy
That being said, stop pirating MP3s. Although tempting, it makes it way worse when anyone looks at the potential for piracy for a new medium and may be why the Riaa is totally overreacting. Now we have lawsuits and someone in jail..
Not buying DVDs wouldn't hurt either, but the picture is so good and the sound....
nothing easy.
Does anyone know if a legal defense fund for this programmer has been set up, or if this incident is being looked at by the EFF? if you aren't a member already then I would suggest joining.
But we will win the war. Here's how...
1) Start a new project, the "CSS Documentation Project" (or CDP for short) This project's stated goal is to document the techniques used by DeCSS for playing DVD's on Linux. Where will it get its information? The DeCSS source, of course. But not just any copy of the DeCSS source. You see, when DVD-CCA filed its nice little lawsuit against DeCSS, it included the DeCSS source in its filing. The court has to release that filing to the public, and did so. That filing, and everything in it, are now in the public domain, if I am not mistaken. What an excellent little loophole to slip through...
2) Now, this is very important: no actual code can appear in the documentation that the CDP creates. This is just to make sure MPAA and DVD-CCA can't do a damn thing about it.
3) Using the CDP's documentation, a new piece of software is written. It should probably pay homage to the original DeCSS in some manner or another. The point is, it should fill in the two holes which MPAA exploited:
That would be a constructive way of fighting the DVD-CCA. Of course legal funds for the DeCSS author are also good, and should continue to be pursued; he shouldn't have to suffer when he's committed no crime. But we need to work on this as well; a new version of the software that can't be attacked like DeCSS has.
Now, all we need is a real start for the project. Any vounteers?
First they attack people in America using the DMCA and the Trade Secret Act, using the fact that this kind of case hasn't been tried in Norvegian court up to now and with the help of a norvegian law expert, and when they manage to have a restraining order against us they attack the guy back home and they can point out that the American Justice is "supporting them".
I know that a restraining order is far from being a definite judgement, it just says that it may be illegal and it may harm the CCA so while waiting for the end of the trial you must not redistribute it, BUT the problem is that everybody don't know that and are therefore more easily manipulated into thinking the American law said it was criminal.
They really are vicious.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Here's the link: http://www.cnn.no/TEKNOLOGI/IT/ 0001/25/1505441.html
Talks of support being given by the EFF and Linux users worldwide.
Posted from a hillside in Herefordshire, England.
The kid is definitely too young to be prosecuted in an American court. Unfortunately, I'm too old to get away with these things without prosecution. I'm also no longer under the free legal protection and dependancy status that college students enjoy. Yet I've integrated decryption and decoding in one step.
.c file but distributing any of the decoder without that one file violates the GPL. Perhaps we could get a consensus on allowing a binary form of the decoder to be distributed with decryption. The we could agree on distributing the source code of everything but the one .c file.
DVD playback is only possible if you decrypt and decode in one step. You can't decrypt the entire DVD and play the files off your hard drive because it's too slow. You can't cat the decrypted data through UNIX pipes because this doesn't allow seeking.
So what I've done is integrated decryption in the DVD decoder but I'm not allowed to distribute it because that would violate the GPL and I'm too old to avoid prosecution. The only way for a person like me to distribute it is as a binary.
The decryption engine is just one
In other words. DVD playback is only possible if you build the decryption into the decoder. We can have a tarball containing everything but one decryption file and a binary player which decrypts on the fly but we need to resolve the GPL issue.
Everyone reading Slasjdot should write polite letters to the editor(s) of any site carrying this story, and correct them. Get our point of view out there. I've noticed, for example, that Cnet's news.com seems to be more open to this sort of thing than most.
They need to know this is not about piracy or copying movies. This is about the freedom to find out how a piece of software works.
But if you do write, please do not flame the editors. That does more harm than not writing at all.
Don't throw your computer out the window, throw the Windows out of your computer!
Ok so what happens if this case is lost, and it is deemed illegal to reverse engineer anything because you must have had to click an agreement saying not to to install the thing right.
Now how software in the recent past have had these licences and how much software have had thier file formats and protocols reverse engineered recently. Now this does not just effect Open Source projects but any company, for example Microsoft vs AOL for the instant message protocol. Now suddenly the only thing they can do is agressively sue and couter sue each other just to survive. You would only be left with a monopoly in the US software industry that cannot be touched as they have application barriers to entry that are backed by the courts no less.
Open source will be ok as the projects can move offshore very easily, but US companies will be hamstrung and unable to compete with Internation software firms as thier laws will prevent them.
It is the same story with the bill being pushed through that says software companies cannot be held liable for thier products. It will create an industry in the US that does not care about quality, hence International and Open Source competition will prevail.
The US software and media industry should be careful what it asks for as it may just get it.
Ice Tiger
"Because we are not employing at entry level, offshoring will kill our industry stone dead."
You will probably find that the US police, or the CIA or someone, contacted the Norwegian Police and asked them to arrest him for the crime, which they did. Depending on Norwegian Extradition treaties with the States, he may or may not be sent on trial. From what I read in the article, he was questioned and then let go again. I assume his equipment is still being held. However, again, I would say that the equipment will remain in Norway. It is just International Diplomacy.
Something similar happened here in Ireland when a college student sent a death threat to the President of the US. The CIA contanted the Gardai (Irish Police Force) and asked them to arrest and question him. I believe the CIA were in Ireland too in that case. Anyway, once it was explained that it was a joke (very funny!), the charges were dropped.
T.
I am, just like most people in the Open Source community, outraged by what happened. There has to be something we can do to help. Jon Johansen & his dad could sure use some. We must show the suits they are NOT above the law just because they have money.
/. does not count).
My question is, what would be the most effective thing to do? We must act quickly or else it will be too late! (and no, ranting on
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If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
This is a very important phrase (if our translation is accurate). I only think that any of this (DVDs,MP3s) is a problem when you try and *profit* from the use of protected media. The only time you are violating the agreement is when you do it for cash. I just don't think, given the Internet and all, that we need to have such onerous protections. Cracking down on the *selling* of protected media is fine, but not for stuff like this. A potential sale is to a real sale as my sperm is to my children. (I have no kids).
+&x
To clear up things, he wasn't or isn't arrested! jes...that's it yall ;)
Sad... You'd think history would give us a clue. Law is merely an agreement, a shared definition of cause and effect at. If you overextend and abuse Law, it's value is weakened, not strengthened. Currently you can no longer stop the free transmission of data. That's it. Adjust your laws and paradigms accordingly. Or be a real bastard and continue to enforce an illusion... History will remember accordingly. Or if you really wish you can push it to the limit. Laws and governments can only outrun reality so long. The end may not be pretty.
I find it interesting that the same companies who region code discs and do their best to prevent consumers from buying product in low cost markets rather than in high cost local markets are the same ones who get very upset about any talk of 'region coding' employment so that they can't have products produced where labor is cheap to sell where products are expensive. Fair is fair!
Enough is enough!
:) You said in your story after the IPO that you had most of what you needed, how about contributing a small Carribean island in international waters to protect the Bazaar?
It's time that those of us interested in freedom pool our resources and purchase an island somewhere in international waters. It's sole purpose would be to provide an extranational haven for information such as this which is acquired legally, but still prosecuted in this manner.
The only thing resembling a police force on the island would be that which is there to prevent other countries from agressing against us and attempting to confiscate our physical posessions and/or data. No cooperation with any other country on prosecution of someone placing data on the servers would be allowed by it's charter.
There is a great need for a physical space which is truly out of the reach of over-reaching, intrusive and confiscatory corporations and nations.
Come on folks, let's put our resources to work. I have read posts in this forum from what seem to be some of the most educated and intelligent individuals with which it is my pleasure to read and associate. In addition to our techie orientation, we come from all walks of life and backgrounds. I have seen people post who are lawyers, nuclear physicists, and doctors. Even with those who are not in these occupations, we are the cream of the crop, we are, collectively, a highly intelligent entity. And we have a tendency to be in the upper scale of income.
Let's put that intelligence, creativity and dollars to work to protect our freedom. Churches function on the premise that the members donate/tithe for the common good. The entire free software movement is based on contributing to the whole. And some of us have even had massive windfalls recently through the major IPO's. Not me, of course, but I am still willing to contribute time, what dollars I can, etc. to insuring that my freedom remains. Many of our predecessors have fought physically and died for this, we can throw a little money at it.
How about it ESR?
And while Eric (or any other individual) may choose to make a significant contribution of this type, all of us must make a effort to protect what we hold dear. I realize this is a massive concept and project, but we are a powerful force. If we feel impotent to affect the outcome of these legalistic events, how about we behave like the net we love and 'route around the damage' by creating a physical place free from that damage.
Whattya think folks? Good idea, or am I just talking through my hat?
Russ
War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. - George Orwell or George Bush?
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Don't give in!
If you ever read the Masters of Reverse Engineering text file about The Truth about DVD CSS cracking by MoRE and [dEZZY/DoD] that came with DeCSS and that can be found on:
www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/dvdtruth.txt
You can read the following very interesting statement:
Lately, Jon Johansen of MoRE has been pretty much all over the news in Norway, though he had NOTHING to do with the actual cracking of the DVD CSS protection. Yes, it was MoRE who did DeCSS, but the actual crack was not a team effort, MoRE didn't even exist back when the anonymous German (who is now a MoRE member) cracked it...
If today's suit of monopoly protection laws and licenses had been operational twenty years ago, Compaq's engineers would have been jailed for reverse engineering the IBM PC bios. Suddenly software could be run - and yes, copied - on non-IBM-made computer systems. Did the markets collapse? Were consumers hurt? No way. This was the beginning of the cutthroat competition in the computer hardware sector that brought down prices at the same time as improving on every quantitative measure. Such were the halcyon days of the legacy market-democratic system that has now been replaced by the plutocracy of monopolistic companies and trusts.
-cjr
OK, the fact, as I see them, are that at the moment, to view a (legally bought) DVD rom, you need one of
(a) A DVD player and a TV
(b) An x86 computer running Windows 95/98/NT with a licenced copy of DVD player software or
(c) A mac running MacOS with a licenced copy of DVD player software.
Which means that people who wish to watch their DVDs (in Ireland, anyway) are forking out a couple of hundred quid for software, even if they already have a computer with a DVD drive. So Linux, FreeBSd, etc users are SOL.
So *our* argument, as I see it, is that under fair use, we are entitled to decode the DVDs so that we can watch our disks on our computers. Grand. We know that, the press doesn't. *Their* argument isn't really about writing copies of DVDs at all, and that's something people are ignoring completely.
The reason the film industry is chasing so hard to keep DVDs under their control is the same reason the music industry is afraid of mp3s. If people crack DVDs to get raw mp2s, then those files will end up as ubiquitous web-wide as mp3s are for music...you'll have warez sites cropping up all over the place to distribute the latest movies fresh off the DVDs. *That's* the cracking/copying they're complaining about.
And the fact is that the only shot they *had* at stalling that was by nipping DeCSS in the bud. Sure, these guys are entitled to do what they did, but if the industry lets the opportunity slip while things are still this centralised, they'll be in a world of shit in a couple of years.
Now, I'm not advocating their actions, but when people say this has *nothing* to do with copying and illegally distributing DVDs, it gets up my wick. The case has two facets. The first is fair use, the second is the indusry's right to defend against illegal distribution. If they're to do it by the book, they'll have to wait until sites start cropping up and sue them one by one. And we all know where that got the music industry.
Long and short of it is, hate these guys for what they're doing to people, but understand where they're coming from, and remember it if you ever have the chance to download illegal mp2s.
Dave Neary.
I've seen lotsa comments saying they can't kill it as long as the code is out, but I'm afraid that might not be true. The real problem (i think) is that they will go after the developers. I don't know how livid is on the people at the moment, but if they need someone with a little coding experiencee and no dvd drive, I'd love to help. But if you've got a dvd drive and more coding experience, you'd probably be more usefull. Even if they don't need people, develope some on your own, and distribute the changes!
The kid is only 16 years old. In most legal duristictions this makes him a minor. As the recent Corel Linux episode has shown this means that it is impossible to hold him to the terms of any license the Xing player has. Lets hope this is true for Norway as well.
Free Johansen now.
Can everybody make it as a banner in every Linux related web pages? This guy wanna create a Linux DVD player for us!
So, my questions for those who know more about the relevent laws:
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The reason this is no overstatement is that laws about burglarious tools, cracking, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in particular, are vague. The boundary between test tools and crime is one that can be drawn by private organizations like the MPA. In other words, you can get thrown in jail for pissing off a cartel, or even an single corporation. This is very very bad.
To correct this situation, the response must be in depth and comprehensive. Be creative. Sure, write to your legislator, but more effective means might be to: Find out the individuals involved in action against the DeCSS authors and make them object of controversy. If the lawyers find their other clients abandoning them because they do not want to do business with controversial lawyers, that is a concrete consequence.
Can you make a difference against "media giants?" Yes. Compare what a movie grosses to a high-tech IPO. These media giants no longer look so tall. The record industry establishment is in real danger of extinction from MP3s. In two or three years it will be possible to store digital movies at full fidelity on hard disks, and perhaps on removable media. It will be possible to transcode them into general purpose and unprotected multimedia formats. It will be the MP3 story again. It is very important that this future prevail, because the alternative is very very bad.
The only way that establishment media companies can maintain their lock on distribution of content is to make certain activities with your PC illegal. In other words, they must criminalize certain software, which they have already done with the DMCA, and they must make your private activities with your PC subject to their interpretation of the law and they must make law enforcement agencies into their private police force for this purpose. Bad! And of you think, that once this camel's nose is under the tent, such infringements on rights will end there, well...
Such antique sentiments that one should be secure in one's documents are not the obsolete thoughts of dead white men. They are a very applicable warning to us all that, in the name of protecting a movie, our fundamental human rights are endangered. Fight back. Fight hard.
I wrote parts of this stuff
You should put some of those funds you have lying around to good work and take out a full-page ad in the New York Times detailing the situation for the general public. Explain that the monster corporation (joe blow dislikes corporate bullies as much as we do) is trying to take away THEIR right to watch DVDs that THEY OWN. Outline the facts in an easy to read format. Easy enough for simple-minded journalists minds, even =)
If slashdot and andover don't want to spend the funds for the ad(s! find other major media!) but would be willing to donate ADMINISTATIVE HELP, putting together a fund would be most useful. I for one would send in my $10 to pay for a television spot or a newspaper ad.
Respectfully,
James Blachly
I think perhaps the authorities in Norway didn't want an international incident involving very large, very powerful American companies and just decided to take the kid right away. I think it's scary to be honest.
"It's here, but no one wants it." - The Sugar Speaker
It seems to me there are a couple important facts:
/. does
:)
1) Almost everyone here agrees on the tragedy, etc.
2) The media staunchly refuses to display both sides, or even imply that another side exists.
3) 10, 20, or even 50,000 people will only make the MPA/DVDCSS laugh at us and our boycotts.
4) Without mainstream knowledge of the truth, we can always be made to look like the bad guys.
I know nothing about the how's of commercials or PSA's, but I bet someone on
I would gladly donate $100 to a fund for this cause.
It would be even neater if we could get it in as a PSA(Public Service Announcement), much cheeper I'm sure and there are some kind of government rules requiring stations to show them
You're offering them at $15 less than poinkz. I'll buy from you:)
Seriously, where can you get a PAL version (or will an NTSC one work?)
As I mentioned in a thread below, I'm boycotting all big media -CDs, movies, DVDs, all of it, as long as this nonsense continues. I spend literally thousands of dollars a year on entertainment products, but not one more penny of my money is going to support these actions. I've had it. This is completely unacceptable. I understand fear of the future, but change or die people.
Harry Caul
Bear Island (74d 30m 10s N - 19d 00m 05s E) in the arctic circle - impossible to land for 10/11 months of the year and the lease is up for the Norwegian government soon so we just need to persuade the hard-up Russian government to part company with it :)
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
Corporations using paramilitary forces to grab children. Grab the kids machine. I hope he had all his games paid for. He will now be villified as a hard criminal as they comb his background for skipping school, smoking a cigarette, asking his elementary school teachers about antisocial behavior. The Norwegians should remember the 40's and not be so stupid.
Can you imagine the commercial viability of an independent data haven site? There's some serious problems in setting the whole thing up, like getting recongnition of other countries, getting power from sufficient numbers of sources such that no one coalition could shut us out (buy from US, Mexico, Canada and Cuba, perchance??)
But wow. Imagine the possibilities of servers hosted there, with some powerful ssh/ssl interfaces, a few anonymous remailers and liberal use of Zero-Knowledge's Freedom or similar products and some hard-drive wipers (PGP has one, IIRC, as does SynCrypt).
It could charge an arm and a leg for commercial hosting, and provide a few dedicated servers for free use for open-source projects--especially those that don't fall under the 'retail' or 'fully-open-source' categories in the new US crypto-export regs.
We could even tap Neal Stephenson and Bruce Sterling and Gibson for venture capital, as they've all mentioned the idea at one time or the other. Or maybe they'd like to buy homes there...
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
>As an example the Region 1 disc of The Matrix has additional sound tracks and a follow the white rabbit interactive element
:(
>which are not included on the Region 2 disk
Hmmm. *My* region 2 Matrix on DVD has got the follow the white rabbit feature - which works remarkably well, so the above poster must have got a review copy of the disk - my copy was bought on the release date of the DVD. I don't know which additional sound tracks the Region 1 has, and I must admit I haven't looked for any on my region 2 disc, but I'd assume they were there, just simply because you (the original poster) got the white rabbit bit wrong...
I've also read in an entertainment magazine (reputable review mag - and *only* one because I don't buy that sort of mag regularly) that some region 2 discs are also getting extra features that region 1 discs didn't get. I don't have the mag with me at work, though
I do, however, agree with the BBFC comment at the end of the article. Sometimes, they are just *too* draconian in their cutting room.
Caffeine fault: operator dumped
Does anyone know if the new public Linux corporations (ie RH, VA, Andover, etc.) have said/are going to say anything official about this situation? It would be greatly appreciated by the community if the companies which have gotten rich off the OS movement would show some support in the media for the real issues behind this abuse of governmental power. It would really give more weight to the truth in the court of public opinion if they would say something.
"Life is tough but we're tougher. You only get what you give, so give all that you've got." --Tony LaRussa
In Norway, you can be held responsible for criminal acts from the age of 15.
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
right now i am pretty happy *not* having a dvd player--might eventually get one, but only for another region (how ridiculous) or built into a computer.
dvd has momentum (and some cool features), but i am contemplating a personal boycott. great films are being released on dvd, but owning a player and discs means buying into an ugly system. kuma
The data held on the DVD is independant of any video signal format (be it PAL, NTSC, SECAM, or what have you)
The signal is created by the DVD player itself. Hence, there is no such thing as a PAL DVD or a NTSC DVD, but there are such things as a PAL DVD player and a NTSC DVD player.
-bugg
In addition to the many other positive approaches I have read here, I propose that we begin making changes in habit that will eviscerate the pocketbooks of the DVD Forum's members.
I suggest a renaissance of Fireside chats, book readings over beer and pizza, out loud with friends or family, and evenings out at the theater, comedy club, or ameteur venues. If we eliminate television and movies from our lives and replace them with alternative forms of entertainment instead, the DVD Forum will lose allot of money. I suggest doing this as part of a political movement to fight what the DVD Forum members are doing. We may not win back our government from Corporate Earth, but we can punish them for what they have done and take back a third of our lives from their clutches. If you MUST watch movies, limit yourself to independent studios not a part of the MPAA or the DVD Forum, though I believe elimitating the entire entertainment genre from our lives would do much more to scare these corporations than a simple boycott of their particular brand-name would, as it would represent a fundamental shift in our behavior that even and end to their activities might not stop.
I am not suggesting we make a major sacrifice, removing entertainment from the leisure portion of our lives, but rather substitute one form of benign entertainment for a malignant one, and to do so in a social context that encourages others to do the same.
Throw a party for friends, in which you tell each other stories or read a book aloud together over, beer, wine, or whatever poison is your choice, and let your friends know exactly why you are doing this. Encourage your friends and family to do the same. If your TV, satelite, or cable hardware supports it, turn off the ability to select channes owned by Time Warner et al. If you feel strongly enough, unplug your TV, or better yet, sell it on ebay. Use the printed media or net exlusively for your news and, if you simply can't live without it, "media" entertainment.
It isn't as important that the DVD Forum members or MPAA know why you are doing this as it is that your family and friends be well informed as to why you are doing this. I am basically proposing a grass roots movement we as individuals take part in, designed to remove the MPAA and DVD Forum from our social and ecominic lives, as a way of both freeing ourselves and punishing those that perpetrated this evil.
I say this as someone who owns thousands of dollars in Laserdisk and hundreds of dollars in DVDs that I, regrettably, bought before discovering how malignant the DVD Forum is.
I encourage others to brainstorm and post other novel, positive ways we can take back control of our own lives from these jerks and hit them in the pocketbook at the same time. We are smarter than these people. Rather than reacting emotionally and throwing stones, let's react intelligently and put them out of business.
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
It seems the codes are there for a reason, so people cannot copy their product. Seems reasonable, it's their product - to SELL, not give away. Someone breaks this code and distributes it, he has done wrong and should be punished or fined or both. He is a least liable for the lost revenues for every illegal copy. Just because someone does something that sounds cool or we can get something for nothing out it does not make it right. There is nothing wrong or immoral about patents, copyrights or any other protection. Someone commented that codes are there to crack, this is WRONG. Thats like saying the lock on your door is there to pick, if I can do it I can sell all your stuff. C'mon people, stop defending these hackers like Jon & Mitnick. They may be smart, but they should be in jail.
But that's kinda outside the point. The real point here is that we want to stand up for this guy's right to reverse engineer DeCSS. There are dozens of posts here emphasizing how incredibly important this case could be. Well the industry and life have blessed me with some cash that I would love to put to good use defending this kid. I realize that joining the EFF here in America is a great way to support the fight against the MPAA and to press our rights to use DVD technology on the operating system of our choice and our right to understand and reverse engineer technology that we buy and use every day.
My point is, does anybody have an address I can send a US dollar denominated check to to support this case in Norway?
It's a dangerous road to travel, where we claim to fight for freedom, but we become censors.
Who determines who the bullies are? I agree that MPAA should be slapped around for their actions. But then the other side will say,
Or in my case with Mattel people have said,We have to educate some of these people and companies that they can't do the this to people. We can't lower ourselfs to these levels.
What we have to do to the companies that use these tactics:
Fight Spammers!
Funny, seems like they (cnn.no) had a poll asking "Do oyu trust the security of microsoft products" earlier.
h bs?id=257
71% of the norwegians don't trust ms.
http://cnn.vg.no/interaktiv/hva_mener_du/index.
It should not be just us users and the OS community backing this but any of the companies that make money by OS.
Think about it RedHat, what happens when anything that is reversed engineered after a person clicked on the agreement might be declared illegal, what happens to your distro when lots of open source software gets banned?
Of course every software player in the IS industry should back this, but then I don't think they get what this means for them yet.
"Because we are not employing at entry level, offshoring will kill our industry stone dead."
Well its pretty clear that the government and the press are swallowing the megacorps' allegations hook line and sinker, while having little consideration for our side. I do think its a shame we don't hear more from RedHat or VA on this issue.
The everyday commonman is only hearing one side of the story. He should hear both. I think it's time for another web blackout to draw attention to this corporatism run amok.
Slashdot, would a spell-checker for posting be too much to ask? It's not rocket science!
Obviously, there is a need to fight this sort of thing legally and through protest for the many reasons which other posters have outlined and for which I think everyone agrees. One thing you can do, however, to show your disgust, is not buy these things. I live just fine without them. Don't purchase a computer that includes a DVD. Don't buy it separately. Don't buy a stand alone machine for your TV. Are DVDs really solid for the future in the ever changing media/information world? Let the RIAA know what you think in the one place they will pay attention...their pocketbooks.
I would like to know what law he broke, did he make a program that copies DVD's or breaks the copyright protection. If it copies the CD's then yea, maybe its a bad thing. But even in doing that, can't we make copies of a DVD that we own, for lets say "Backup reasons".
Now lets say his program source simply broke the encryption to just allow the data to be read, and another program, or function in the program could copy the information to say, a hard drive. Isn't the DVD yours to begin with? Even though there is copyright protection, you do own the DVD, since when do we buy things that we don't totally own.
The wool has been pulled over our eyes somewhere along the line. If i buy a CD, and i want to smash it, i can right? If i want to listen to it i can, right? What if i want to copy it and make copies for myself? is that illegal? What if i give these copies away to friends. It is my CD after all. And if it was a toothpick or something it would be ok, but this media is different. We no longer own it. We just own the rights to listen to it. If i pay for it, i want all my rights too it.
Doesn't anyone else agree?
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"Charging a man with murder in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500" -Apocalypse No
Brrr. Reading a story like this makes me only want top copy movies & music in the future.
Personally I've money enough to buy them, and it is more convenient than copying. But I can't stand the idea that my money goes to such immoral companies trying to sue a 16 year old. Everyone has the right to research protection schemes or whatever. If it breaks, than they should have made it better and it's completely their fault.
Do you know what this actually reminds me of? The scientology case. The "secret" OT materials were filed as evidence in a court case in Sweden, which according to Swedish law makes them public documents, so journalists and private citizens can study the evidence. Sweden takes freedom of information seriously. But the ultra rich scientology cult doesn't like to get their dirty secrets exposed, so they whispered into the ears of American politics, who in turn put pressure on Sweden to remove the documents, calling it a case of religious discrimination. Eventually they got their will through. And now this, ultrarich, ultrapowerful American film companies bribe^h^h^h^h^h^h sorry "lobby" American politicians, and soon the police are raiding a 16 year old boy. Deja vu.
I ask you - who are the fascists now?
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Being bitter is drinking poison and hoping someone else will die
"... We do not hunger and thirst after those superfluities of life, that are the ruin of thousands of families among you. Our ornaments, in general, are simple, and easily obtained. Envy and cvetousness, those worms that destroy the fair flower of human happiness, are unknown in this climate. The palaces and prisons among you, form a most dreadful contrast. Go to the former laces, and you will see, perhaps, a deformed piece of earth swelled with pride, and assuming airs, that become none but the Spirit above. Go to one of your prisons - here description utterly fails!-certainly the sight of an Indian torture is not half so painful to a well informed mind. Kill them [the prisoners], if you please-kill them, too, by torture, but let the torture last no longer than a day. . . Those you call savages, relent- the most furious of our tormentors exhausts his rage in a few hours, and dispatches the unhappy victim with a sudden stroke. But for what are your prisoners confined? For Debt! Astonishing! and will you ever again call the Indian nations cruel? - Liberty, to a rational creature, as much exceeds property, as the light of the sun does that of the most twinkling star: but you put them on a level, to the everlasting disgrace of civilization. . . And I seriously declare , that I had rather die by the most severe tortures ever inflicted by any savage nation on the continent, than languish in one of your prisons for a single year. Great Maker of the world! and do you call yourselves christians?? ... Does the religion of him whom you call your saviour inspire this conduct and lead to this practice? . . . cease to call other nations savage when you are tenfold more the children of cruelty, than they." -- Joseph Brandt, Mohawk, 1789 A.D.
Maybe they have gone to far by arresting Jon? We now have a person at the focus of this fiasco. This could very well force more of us into action than ever before. Martyrs are wonderful for strengthening a movement...
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it's in my head
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As has been pointed out many times, one of the big arguments in the lawsuits, and perhaps the criminal investigation as well, is whether the reverse engineering was done legally. Let's kill that argument by having a second version done according to the well-know cleanroom reverse engineering techniques that worked so well for Phoenix when they cloned the IBM PC rom. It has to be unarguably legal reverse engineering, done strictly for the purpose of cross-platform support. We not only have to have the moral high ground, but be seen to have it. Do the work, and keep records of how it was done.
Will this help the current cases? No - those cases still have to be fought hard, and maybe somebody will have to beat a strategic retreat. But it will help prevent us from losing the war.
Life's a bitch but somebody's gotta do it.
Again a young person with real skills is persecuted for his application of knowledge. He did not steal, cheat or harm anyone. Okay so he hacked. But it was the kind of hacking we should promote not stomp into the dirt of ignorance. Taking clocks apart to see what makes them tick. Building cool things out of legos. This is where it all starts. Where would the world be without people like this? What if Isaac Newton hadn't discovered gravity where would we all be?? I'll tell ya...probably on the moon or just floating around (on the plus side we could jump really high). This boy obviously has a decent understanding of the processes involved, give him a job. You shouldn't prosecute him for non-malicous code that he's already written. Ridiculous.
"the 12 year old was reportedly guilty of stealing the intellectual property of the linux trademark, at his site imalinuxwhore.com, his father, who payed for his computer, is also under arrest, and his mother, who used to house his fetal body in her uterus, is also considered responsible and is under questioning." "some people say this might be bad, but the majority believe it will be good for linux. 'We cannot have whoever just doing whatever they want' said Eric S Raymond, a leading open source (tm) business advocate (tm)" "the gnu/linux trademark issue is not one i am happy about, but it is a necessary evil to protect the dream of a free operating system" said Richard Stallman, Eric's life-partner.
That doesn't change anything. Regardless, we're getting the source from a public document, authored by DVD-CCA.
The code is GPL'd. Therefore, to comply with the GPL, the document must also be distributable under the terms of the GPL. I believe that's what the Open-Content License is for.
So it's still possible. I didn't choode my words very well when I talked about the public-domain bit. But the idea still works.
That doesn't change anything. Regardless, we're getting the source from a public document, authored by DVD-CCA.
The code is GPL'd. Therefore, to comply with the GPL, the document must also be distributable under the terms of the GPL. I believe that's what the Open-Content License is for.
So it's still possible. I didn't choose my words very well when I talked about the public-domain bit. But the idea still works.
Norway is not a member state of the European Union (EU).
Do your checklist: Boycott DVD: I have done that. Boycott Hollywood: I will start doing it. Boycott AOL: I have done that. Boycott Microsoft: I have done that.
I believe that this is a decission by the state attorney (Ms Inger Marie Sunde) that a crime might have been committed.
If Inger Sunde isthe person who made the decision to attack us like this, then we need to crucify her. Many attorney's in the US are elected (or at appointed directly by elected officials) so they are sensitive to public opinion. If you live in Norway you should probable be calling Ms. Sunde office to complain and explain the truth.
Also, it is worth pointing out that it is in Norway's interest that people can use systems like Linux since Norway should not want to be too dependant on US software (i.e. Microsoft). Hell, if I was a citizen I would be calling her a traitor unless she drops the case. I wonder how useful this "anti-Linux == treason" meme would be in the non-US world.. it might win us some support from some segments of the populatin which really don't know anyhting about computers.
We should make a point to remember public officials like this who make anti-Linux/OSS policies. If she sticks to this decision I would be willing to chip in some money to run commercials explaining why she is a traitor to her country on Norway's TV at election time.
I would love to see somoene who knows about the politics of this sort of thing in Norway explain the bezt course of action for communicating our message.. forcefully.
Jeff
BTW> Generally, we should be tring harder to apply our zelotness and looking for people like this to crusify. It might help the movement quite a bit to kill the career of an anti-Linux, anti-OSS, or anti-reverse engenering government official or two.. as other government officials will sit up and take notice.
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
What shoud I do? Should I pick up the sword and attempt to defend myself with it? (BTW is sticking people illegal too?) Or should I pull my handgun and and shoot him? (I stand a good chance because of all that target practice!)
As in so much else in life, these statements depend on circumstances. Most places that allow possession of hanguns would not consider my shooting the swordsman under these conditions illegal.
For those of you in the US who want to outlaw (hand/assault/etc) guns, check out the situation in the Bahamas. The criminals have handguns, they have UZIs, they have pretty much whatever they want. They also use them as they please. It is just regular people who cannot have them.
Now, I am not saying that I want everyone packing. If violent crime was not an issue, if the government was not armed, if other countries were not armed, if you could trust those with power not to abuse it, I would not have second thoughts. As it is, I do.
Bovine Bart
Maybe you should have, *sigh*, read the answers to these many questions you refer to and perhaps memorized them too.
The Hudson Bay Co. is Canadian.
Clearly this is not a case about law, but about money, and those who have enough of it to crush the little guy who can't fight back.
A sad day for all of us, and a look at the mechanisms within all our governments.
"It sounds like you are saying that the MPAA is choosing option number 2, but it's not!. It would seem to me that the CSS system is an attempt to put good locks on the doors and windows."
The CSS system is a form of crytography, the level of which doesn't even rate as 'week'. I was in no way attempting to suggest that it is ok to crack something that was protected.
What I was attempting to say however that if you have something valuable and don't protect it very well you can more expect it to be stolen, wrong it may be but badly protected valuables get stolen.
You have to remember here that the MPAA is quoting potential loss figures that dwarf the insurance value of the English Crown Jewels, the Crown Jewls are stord in huge vault below ground inside a fort. The Css system was protected with a system in crytography terms equivlenet to a spring catch on a balsa wood door.
The core of my argument (on this point) is that expecting the tax-payer to pick up a large chunk of the bill for damage-control on secret a secret that was not very well protected is not entirely fair. Yes it's wrong to steal secrets but I would like the law changed to say:
If you want the taxpayer funded courts to help defend you secrets you need to provide adacuate protection for them yourselves.
You have some very interesting ideas. We need to do things to push these sorts of ideas on the general public. I guess you could write a manifesto and get it posted all over the internet.
I encourage others to brainstorm and post other novel, positive ways we can take back control of our own lives from these jerks and hit them in the pocketbook at the same time. We are smarter than these people. Rather than reacting emotionally and throwing stones, let's react intelligently and put them out of business.
First, it would be nice if someone would post ways to contribute to the guy's legal defence (this post asked before me).
Second, we need the support of the general population, so we may need emotional campaigns. Specifically, we should politically attack the government officials who do this kind of shit. It could be really useful to the community to kill the carear of an anti-Linux / anti-fair use politician or two (I discuss this further in my other post)
It is worth mentioning that non-US countries should not want to be dependent on a US company (Microsoft) so "anti-Linux == treason" is a useful meme which the general population can understand. I think the community should take what happens in the rest of the world very seriously.. to the point of remembering anti-Linux politicians (like Ms Inger Marie Sunde (state attorney in Norway) and donating money to see them removed from office. We could run a web site which lists the anti-Linux politicians who are currently running for office and allows people to contribute to campaigns opposing them. People could contribute small amounts of money, but it would be scary to politicians since it draws money from all over the world.
Jeff
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
/* * Copyright (C) 1999 Derek Fawcus * * This code may be used under the terms of Version 2 of the GPL, * read the file COPYING for details. * */ /* * These routines do some reordering of the supplied data before * calling engine() to do the main work. * * The reordering seems similar to that done by the initial stages of * the DES algorithm, in that it looks like it's just been done to * try and make software decoding slower. I'm not sure that it * actually adds anything to the security. * * The nature of the shuffling is that the bits of the supplied * parameter 'varient' are reorganised (and some inverted), and * the bytes of the parameter 'challenge' are reorganised. * * The reorganisation in each routine is different, and the first * (CryptKey1) does not bother of play with the 'varient' parameter. * * Since this code is only run once per disk change, I've made the * code table driven in order to improve readability. * * Since these routines are so similar to each other, one could even * abstract them all to one routine supplied a parameter determining * the nature of the reordering it has to do. */ #include "css-auth.h" typedef unsigned long u32; static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output); void CryptKey1(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key) { static byte perm_challenge[] = {1,3,0,7,5, 2,9,6,4,8}; byte scratch[10]; int i; for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i) scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]]; engine(varient, scratch, key); } /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that * 4 -> !3 * 3 -> 4 * varient bits: 2 -> 0 perm_varient bits * 1 -> 2 * 0 -> !1 */ void CryptKey2(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key) { static byte perm_challenge[] = {6,1,9,3,8, 5,7,4,0,2}; static byte perm_varient[] = { 0x0a, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x0c, 0x0b, 0x09, 0x0f, 0x0d, 0x1a, 0x18, 0x1e, 0x1c, 0x1b, 0x19, 0x1f, 0x1d, 0x02, 0x00, 0x06, 0x04, 0x03, 0x01, 0x07, 0x05, 0x12, 0x10, 0x16, 0x14, 0x13, 0x11, 0x17, 0x15}; byte scratch[10]; int i; for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i) scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]]; engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key); } /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that * 4 -> 0 * 3 -> !1 * varient bits: 2 -> !4 perm_varient bits * 1 -> 2 * 0 -> 3 */ void CryptBusKey(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key) { static byte perm_challenge[] = {4,0,3,5,7, 2,8,6,1,9}; static byte perm_varient[] = { 0x12, 0x1a, 0x16, 0x1e, 0x02, 0x0a, 0x06, 0x0e, 0x10, 0x18, 0x14, 0x1c, 0x00, 0x08, 0x04, 0x0c, 0x13, 0x1b, 0x17, 0x1f, 0x03, 0x0b, 0x07, 0x0f, 0x11, 0x19, 0x15, 0x1d, 0x01, 0x09, 0x05, 0x0d}; byte scratch[10]; int i; for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i) scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]]; engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key); } /* * We use two LFSR's (seeded from some of the input data bytes) to * generate two streams of pseudo-random bits. These two bit streams * are then combined by simply adding with carry to generate a final * sequence of pseudo-random bits which is stored in the buffer that * 'output' points to the end of - len is the size of this buffer. * * The first LFSR is of degree 25, and has a polynomial of: * x^13 + x^5 + x^4 + x^1 + 1 * * The second LSFR is of degree 17, and has a (primitive) polynomial of: * x^15 + x^1 + 1 * * I don't know if these polynomials are primitive modulo 2, and thus * represent maximal-period LFSR's. * * * Note that we take the output of each LFSR from the new shifted in * bit, not the old shifted out bit. Thus for ease of use the LFSR's * are implemented in bit reversed order. * */ static void generate_bits(byte *output, int len, struct block const *s) { u32 lfsr0, lfsr1; byte carry; /* In order to ensure that the LFSR works we need to ensure that the * initial values are non-zero. Thus when we initialise them from * the seed, we ensure that a bit is set. */ lfsr0 = (s->b[0] b[1] b[2] & ~7) b[2] & 7); lfsr1 = (s->b[3] b[4]; ++output; carry = 0; do { int bit; byte val; for (bit = 0, val = 0; bit > 24) ^ (lfsr0 >> 21) ^ (lfsr0 >> 20) ^ (lfsr0 >> 12)) & 1; lfsr0 = (lfsr0 > 16) ^ (lfsr1 >> 2)) & 1; lfsr1 = (lfsr1 > 1) & 1) combined = !o_lfsr1 + carry + !o_lfsr0; carry = BIT1(combined); val |= BIT0(combined) 0); } static byte Secret[]; static byte Varients[]; static byte Table0[]; static byte Table1[]; static byte Table2[]; static byte Table3[]; /* * This encryption engine implements one of 32 variations * one the same theme depending upon the choice in the * varient parameter (0 - 31). * * The algorithm itself manipulates a 40 bit input into * a 40 bit output. * The parameter 'input' is 80 bits. It consists of * the 40 bit input value that is to be encrypted followed * by a 40 bit seed value for the pseudo random number * generators. */ static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output) { byte cse, term, index; struct block temp1; struct block temp2; byte bits[30]; int i; /* Feed the secret into the input values such that * we alter the seed to the LFSR's used above, then * generate the bits to play with. */ for (i = 5; --i >= 0; ) temp1.b[i] = input[5 + i] ^ Secret[i] ^ Table2[i]; generate_bits(&bits[29], sizeof bits, &temp1); /* This term is used throughout the following to * select one of 32 different variations on the * algorithm. */ cse = Varients[varient] ^ Table2[varient]; /* Now the actual blocks doing the encryption. Each * of these works on 40 bits at a time and are quite * similar. */ for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = input[i]) { index = bits[25 + i] ^ input[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; } temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0]; for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) { index = bits[20 + i] ^ temp1.b[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; temp2.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; } temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0]; for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) { index = bits[15 + i] ^ temp2.b[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; temp1.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index]; } temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0]; for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) { index = bits[10 + i] ^ temp1.b[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; temp2.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index]; } temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0]; for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) { index = bits[5 + i] ^ temp2.b[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; } temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0]; for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) { index = bits[i] ^ temp1.b[i]; index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse; output->b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term; } } static byte Varients[] = { 0xB7, 0x74, 0x85, 0xD0, 0xCC, 0xDB, 0xCA, 0x73, 0x03, 0xFE, 0x31, 0x03, 0x52, 0xE0, 0xB7, 0x42, 0x63, 0x16, 0xF2, 0x2A, 0x79, 0x52, 0xFF, 0x1B, 0x7A, 0x11, 0xCA, 0x1A, 0x9B, 0x40, 0xAD, 0x01}; static byte Secret[] = {0x55, 0xD6, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0x28}; static byte Table0[] = { 0xB7, 0xF4, 0x82, 0x57, 0xDA, 0x4D, 0xDB, 0xE2, 0x2F, 0x52, 0x1A, 0xA8, 0x68, 0x5A, 0x8A, 0xFF, 0xFB, 0x0E, 0x6D, 0x35, 0xF7, 0x5C, 0x76, 0x12, 0xCE, 0x25, 0x79, 0x29, 0x39, 0x62, 0x08, 0x24, 0xA5, 0x85, 0x7B, 0x56, 0x01, 0x23, 0x68, 0xCF, 0x0A, 0xE2, 0x5A, 0xED, 0x3D, 0x59, 0xB0, 0xA9, 0xB0, 0x2C, 0xF2, 0xB8, 0xEF, 0x32, 0xA9, 0x40, 0x80, 0x71, 0xAF, 0x1E, 0xDE, 0x8F, 0x58, 0x88, 0xB8, 0x3A, 0xD0, 0xFC, 0xC4, 0x1E, 0xB5, 0xA0, 0xBB, 0x3B, 0x0F, 0x01, 0x7E, 0x1F, 0x9F, 0xD9, 0xAA, 0xB8, 0x3D, 0x9D, 0x74, 0x1E, 0x25, 0xDB, 0x37, 0x56, 0x8F, 0x16, 0xBA, 0x49, 0x2B, 0xAC, 0xD0, 0xBD, 0x95, 0x20, 0xBE, 0x7A, 0x28, 0xD0, 0x51, 0x64, 0x63, 0x1C, 0x7F, 0x66, 0x10, 0xBB, 0xC4, 0x56, 0x1A, 0x04, 0x6E, 0x0A, 0xEC, 0x9C, 0xD6, 0xE8, 0x9A, 0x7A, 0xCF, 0x8C, 0xDB, 0xB1, 0xEF, 0x71, 0xDE, 0x31, 0xFF, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x5E, 0x07, 0x69, 0x96, 0xB0, 0xCF, 0xDD, 0x9E, 0x47, 0xC7, 0x96, 0x8F, 0xE4, 0x2B, 0x59, 0xC6, 0xEE, 0xB9, 0x86, 0x9A, 0x64, 0x84, 0x72, 0xE2, 0x5B, 0xA2, 0x96, 0x58, 0x99, 0x50, 0x03, 0xF5, 0x38, 0x4D, 0x02, 0x7D, 0xE7, 0x7D, 0x75, 0xA7, 0xB8, 0x67, 0x87, 0x84, 0x3F, 0x1D, 0x11, 0xE5, 0xFC, 0x1E, 0xD3, 0x83, 0x16, 0xA5, 0x29, 0xF6, 0xC7, 0x15, 0x61, 0x29, 0x1A, 0x43, 0x4F, 0x9B, 0xAF, 0xC5, 0x87, 0x34, 0x6C, 0x0F, 0x3B, 0xA8, 0x1D, 0x45, 0x58, 0x25, 0xDC, 0xA8, 0xA3, 0x3B, 0xD1, 0x79, 0x1B, 0x48, 0xF2, 0xE9, 0x93, 0x1F, 0xFC, 0xDB, 0x2A, 0x90, 0xA9, 0x8A, 0x3D, 0x39, 0x18, 0xA3, 0x8E, 0x58, 0x6C, 0xE0, 0x12, 0xBB, 0x25, 0xCD, 0x71, 0x22, 0xA2, 0x64, 0xC6, 0xE7, 0xFB, 0xAD, 0x94, 0x77, 0x04, 0x9A, 0x39, 0xCF, 0x7C}; static byte Table1[] = { 0x8C, 0x47, 0xB0, 0xE1, 0xEB, 0xFC, 0xEB, 0x56, 0x10, 0xE5, 0x2C, 0x1A, 0x5D, 0xEF, 0xBE, 0x4F, 0x08, 0x75, 0x97, 0x4B, 0x0E, 0x25, 0x8E, 0x6E, 0x39, 0x5A, 0x87, 0x53, 0xC4, 0x1F, 0xF4, 0x5C, 0x4E, 0xE6, 0x99, 0x30, 0xE0, 0x42, 0x88, 0xAB, 0xE5, 0x85, 0xBC, 0x8F, 0xD8, 0x3C, 0x54, 0xC9, 0x53, 0x47, 0x18, 0xD6, 0x06, 0x5B, 0x41, 0x2C, 0x67, 0x1E, 0x41, 0x74, 0x33, 0xE2, 0xB4, 0xE0, 0x23, 0x29, 0x42, 0xEA, 0x55, 0x0F, 0x25, 0xB4, 0x24, 0x2C, 0x99, 0x13, 0xEB, 0x0A, 0x0B, 0xC9, 0xF9, 0x63, 0x67, 0x43, 0x2D, 0xC7, 0x7D, 0x07, 0x60, 0x89, 0xD1, 0xCC, 0xE7, 0x94, 0x77, 0x74, 0x9B, 0x7E, 0xD7, 0xE6, 0xFF, 0xBB, 0x68, 0x14, 0x1E, 0xA3, 0x25, 0xDE, 0x3A, 0xA3, 0x54, 0x7B, 0x87, 0x9D, 0x50, 0xCA, 0x27, 0xC3, 0xA4, 0x50, 0x91, 0x27, 0xD4, 0xB0, 0x82, 0x41, 0x97, 0x79, 0x94, 0x82, 0xAC, 0xC7, 0x8E, 0xA5, 0x4E, 0xAA, 0x78, 0x9E, 0xE0, 0x42, 0xBA, 0x28, 0xEA, 0xB7, 0x74, 0xAD, 0x35, 0xDA, 0x92, 0x60, 0x7E, 0xD2, 0x0E, 0xB9, 0x24, 0x5E, 0x39, 0x4F, 0x5E, 0x63, 0x09, 0xB5, 0xFA, 0xBF, 0xF1, 0x22, 0x55, 0x1C, 0xE2, 0x25, 0xDB, 0xC5, 0xD8, 0x50, 0x03, 0x98, 0xC4, 0xAC, 0x2E, 0x11, 0xB4, 0x38, 0x4D, 0xD0, 0xB9, 0xFC, 0x2D, 0x3C, 0x08, 0x04, 0x5A, 0xEF, 0xCE, 0x32, 0xFB, 0x4C, 0x92, 0x1E, 0x4B, 0xFB, 0x1A, 0xD0, 0xE2, 0x3E, 0xDA, 0x6E, 0x7C, 0x4D, 0x56, 0xC3, 0x3F, 0x42, 0xB1, 0x3A, 0x23, 0x4D, 0x6E, 0x84, 0x56, 0x68, 0xF4, 0x0E, 0x03, 0x64, 0xD0, 0xA9, 0x92, 0x2F, 0x8B, 0xBC, 0x39, 0x9C, 0xAC, 0x09, 0x5E, 0xEE, 0xE5, 0x97, 0xBF, 0xA5, 0xCE, 0xFA, 0x28, 0x2C, 0x6D, 0x4F, 0xEF, 0x77, 0xAA, 0x1B, 0x79, 0x8E, 0x97, 0xB4, 0xC3, 0xF4}; static byte Table2[] = { 0xB7, 0x75, 0x81, 0xD5, 0xDC, 0xCA, 0xDE, 0x66, 0x23, 0xDF, 0x15, 0x26, 0x62, 0xD1, 0x83, 0x77, 0xE3, 0x97, 0x76, 0xAF, 0xE9, 0xC3, 0x6B, 0x8E, 0xDA, 0xB0, 0x6E, 0xBF, 0x2B, 0xF1, 0x19, 0xB4, 0x95, 0x34, 0x48, 0xE4, 0x37, 0x94, 0x5D, 0x7B, 0x36, 0x5F, 0x65, 0x53, 0x07, 0xE2, 0x89, 0x11, 0x98, 0x85, 0xD9, 0x12, 0xC1, 0x9D, 0x84, 0xEC, 0xA4, 0xD4, 0x88, 0xB8, 0xFC, 0x2C, 0x79, 0x28, 0xD8, 0xDB, 0xB3, 0x1E, 0xA2, 0xF9, 0xD0, 0x44, 0xD7, 0xD6, 0x60, 0xEF, 0x14, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0x31, 0xD2, 0x41, 0x46, 0x67, 0x0A, 0xE1, 0x58, 0x27, 0x43, 0xA3, 0xF8, 0xE0, 0xC8, 0xBA, 0x5A, 0x5C, 0x80, 0x6C, 0xC6, 0xF2, 0xE8, 0xAD, 0x7D, 0x04, 0x0D, 0xB9, 0x3C, 0xC2, 0x25, 0xBD, 0x49, 0x63, 0x8C, 0x9F, 0x51, 0xCE, 0x20, 0xC5, 0xA1, 0x50, 0x92, 0x2D, 0xDD, 0xBC, 0x8D, 0x4F, 0x9A, 0x71, 0x2F, 0x30, 0x1D, 0x73, 0x39, 0x13, 0xFB, 0x1A, 0xCB, 0x24, 0x59, 0xFE, 0x05, 0x96, 0x57, 0x0F, 0x1F, 0xCF, 0x54, 0xBE, 0xF5, 0x06, 0x1B, 0xB2, 0x6D, 0xD3, 0x4D, 0x32, 0x56, 0x21, 0x33, 0x0B, 0x52, 0xE7, 0xAB, 0xEB, 0xA6, 0x74, 0x00, 0x4C, 0xB1, 0x7F, 0x82, 0x99, 0x87, 0x0E, 0x5E, 0xC0, 0x8F, 0xEE, 0x6F, 0x55, 0xF3, 0x7E, 0x08, 0x90, 0xFA, 0xB6, 0x64, 0x70, 0x47, 0x4A, 0x17, 0xA7, 0xB5, 0x40, 0x8A, 0x38, 0xE5, 0x68, 0x3E, 0x8B, 0x69, 0xAA, 0x9B, 0x42, 0xA5, 0x10, 0x01, 0x35, 0xFD, 0x61, 0x9E, 0xE6, 0x16, 0x9C, 0x86, 0xED, 0xCD, 0x2E, 0xFF, 0xC4, 0x5B, 0xA0, 0xAE, 0xCC, 0x4B, 0x3B, 0x03, 0xBB, 0x1C, 0x2A, 0xAC, 0x0C, 0x3F, 0x93, 0xC7, 0x72, 0x7A, 0x09, 0x22, 0x3D, 0x45, 0x78, 0xA9, 0xA8, 0xEA, 0xC9, 0x6A, 0xF7, 0x29, 0x91, 0xF0, 0x02, 0x18, 0x3A, 0x4E, 0x7C}; static byte Table3[] = { 0x73, 0x51, 0x95, 0xE1, 0x12, 0xE4, 0xC0, 0x58, 0xEE, 0xF2, 0x08, 0x1B, 0xA9, 0xFA, 0x98, 0x4C, 0xA7, 0x33, 0xE2, 0x1B, 0xA7, 0x6D, 0xF5, 0x30, 0x97, 0x1D, 0xF3, 0x02, 0x60, 0x5A, 0x82, 0x0F, 0x91, 0xD0, 0x9C, 0x10, 0x39, 0x7A, 0x83, 0x85, 0x3B, 0xB2, 0xB8, 0xAE, 0x0C, 0x09, 0x52, 0xEA, 0x1C, 0xE1, 0x8D, 0x66, 0x4F, 0xF3, 0xDA, 0x92, 0x29, 0xB9, 0xD5, 0xC5, 0x77, 0x47, 0x22, 0x53, 0x14, 0xF7, 0xAF, 0x22, 0x64, 0xDF, 0xC6, 0x72, 0x12, 0xF3, 0x75, 0xDA, 0xD7, 0xD7, 0xE5, 0x02, 0x9E, 0xED, 0xDA, 0xDB, 0x4C, 0x47, 0xCE, 0x91, 0x06, 0x06, 0x6D, 0x55, 0x8B, 0x19, 0xC9, 0xEF, 0x8C, 0x80, 0x1A, 0x0E, 0xEE, 0x4B, 0xAB, 0xF2, 0x08, 0x5C, 0xE9, 0x37, 0x26, 0x5E, 0x9A, 0x90, 0x00, 0xF3, 0x0D, 0xB2, 0xA6, 0xA3, 0xF7, 0x26, 0x17, 0x48, 0x88, 0xC9, 0x0E, 0x2C, 0xC9, 0x02, 0xE7, 0x18, 0x05, 0x4B, 0xF3, 0x39, 0xE1, 0x20, 0x02, 0x0D, 0x40, 0xC7, 0xCA, 0xB9, 0x48, 0x30, 0x57, 0x67, 0xCC, 0x06, 0xBF, 0xAC, 0x81, 0x08, 0x24, 0x7A, 0xD4, 0x8B, 0x19, 0x8E, 0xAC, 0xB4, 0x5A, 0x0F, 0x73, 0x13, 0xAC, 0x9E, 0xDA, 0xB6, 0xB8, 0x96, 0x5B, 0x60, 0x88, 0xE1, 0x81, 0x3F, 0x07, 0x86, 0x37, 0x2D, 0x79, 0x14, 0x52, 0xEA, 0x73, 0xDF, 0x3D, 0x09, 0xC8, 0x25, 0x48, 0xD8, 0x75, 0x60, 0x9A, 0x08, 0x27, 0x4A, 0x2C, 0xB9, 0xA8, 0x8B, 0x8A, 0x73, 0x62, 0x37, 0x16, 0x02, 0xBD, 0xC1, 0x0E, 0x56, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x14, 0x5F, 0x8C, 0x8F, 0x6E, 0x75, 0x1C, 0x07, 0x39, 0x7B, 0x4B, 0xDB, 0xD3, 0x4B, 0x1E, 0xC8, 0x7E, 0xFE, 0x3E, 0x72, 0x16, 0x83, 0x7D, 0xEE, 0xF5, 0xCA, 0xC5, 0x18, 0xF9, 0xD8, 0x68, 0xAB, 0x38, 0x85, 0xA8, 0xF0, 0xA1, 0x73, 0x9F, 0x5D, 0x19, 0x0B, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x33, 0x72, 0x39, 0x25, 0x67, 0x26, 0x6D, 0x71, 0x36, 0x77, 0x3C, 0x20, 0x62, 0x23, 0x68, 0x74, 0xC3, 0x82, 0xC9, 0x15, 0x57, 0x16, 0x5D, 0x81};
/*
/* In order to ensure that the LFSR works we need to ensure that the
/* Feed the secret into the input values such that
/* This term is used throughout the following to
/* Now the actual blocks doing the encryption. Each
* Copyright (C) 1999 Derek Fawcus
*
* This code may be used under the terms of Version 2 of the GPL,
* read the file COPYING for details.
*
*/
/*
* These routines do some reordering of the supplied data before
* calling engine() to do the main work.
*
* The reordering seems similar to that done by the initial stages of
* the DES algorithm, in that it looks like it's just been done to
* try and make software decoding slower. I'm not sure that it
* actually adds anything to the security.
*
* The nature of the shuffling is that the bits of the supplied
* parameter 'varient' are reorganised (and some inverted), and
* the bytes of the parameter 'challenge' are reorganised.
*
* The reorganisation in each routine is different, and the first
* (CryptKey1) does not bother of play with the 'varient' parameter.
*
* Since this code is only run once per disk change, I've made the
* code table driven in order to improve readability.
*
* Since these routines are so similar to each other, one could even
* abstract them all to one routine supplied a parameter determining
* the nature of the reordering it has to do.
*/
#include "css-auth.h"
typedef unsigned long u32;
static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output);
void CryptKey1(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
{
static byte perm_challenge[] = {1,3,0,7,5, 2,9,6,4,8};
byte scratch[10];
int i;
for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];
engine(varient, scratch, key);
}
/* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
* 4 -> !3
* 3 -> 4
* varient bits: 2 -> 0 perm_varient bits
* 1 -> 2
* 0 -> !1
*/
void CryptKey2(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
{
static byte perm_challenge[] = {6,1,9,3,8, 5,7,4,0,2};
static byte perm_varient[] = {
0x0a, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x0c, 0x0b, 0x09, 0x0f, 0x0d,
0x1a, 0x18, 0x1e, 0x1c, 0x1b, 0x19, 0x1f, 0x1d,
0x02, 0x00, 0x06, 0x04, 0x03, 0x01, 0x07, 0x05,
0x12, 0x10, 0x16, 0x14, 0x13, 0x11, 0x17, 0x15};
byte scratch[10];
int i;
for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];
engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
}
/* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
* 4 -> 0
* 3 -> !1
* varient bits: 2 -> !4 perm_varient bits
* 1 -> 2
* 0 -> 3
*/
void CryptBusKey(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
{
static byte perm_challenge[] = {4,0,3,5,7, 2,8,6,1,9};
static byte perm_varient[] = {
0x12, 0x1a, 0x16, 0x1e, 0x02, 0x0a, 0x06, 0x0e,
0x10, 0x18, 0x14, 0x1c, 0x00, 0x08, 0x04, 0x0c,
0x13, 0x1b, 0x17, 0x1f, 0x03, 0x0b, 0x07, 0x0f,
0x11, 0x19, 0x15, 0x1d, 0x01, 0x09, 0x05, 0x0d};
byte scratch[10];
int i;
for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];
engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
}
/*
* We use two LFSR's (seeded from some of the input data bytes) to
* generate two streams of pseudo-random bits. These two bit streams
* are then combined by simply adding with carry to generate a final
* sequence of pseudo-random bits which is stored in the buffer that
* 'output' points to the end of - len is the size of this buffer.
*
* The first LFSR is of degree 25, and has a polynomial of:
* x^13 + x^5 + x^4 + x^1 + 1
*
* The second LSFR is of degree 17, and has a (primitive) polynomial of:
* x^15 + x^1 + 1
*
* I don't know if these polynomials are primitive modulo 2, and thus
* represent maximal-period LFSR's.
*
*
* Note that we take the output of each LFSR from the new shifted in
* bit, not the old shifted out bit. Thus for ease of use the LFSR's
* are implemented in bit reversed order.
*
*/
static void generate_bits(byte *output, int len, struct block const *s)
{
u32 lfsr0, lfsr1;
byte carry;
* initial values are non-zero. Thus when we initialise them from
* the seed, we ensure that a bit is set.
*/
lfsr0 = (s->b[0] b[1] b[2] & ~7) b[2] & 7);
lfsr1 = (s->b[3] b[4];
++output;
carry = 0;
do {
int bit;
byte val;
for (bit = 0, val = 0; bit > 24) ^ (lfsr0 >> 21) ^ (lfsr0 >> 20) ^ (lfsr0 >> 12)) & 1;
lfsr0 = (lfsr0 > 16) ^ (lfsr1 >> 2)) & 1;
lfsr1 = (lfsr1 > 1) & 1)
combined = !o_lfsr1 + carry + !o_lfsr0;
carry = BIT1(combined);
val |= BIT0(combined) 0);
}
static byte Secret[];
static byte Varients[];
static byte Table0[];
static byte Table1[];
static byte Table2[];
static byte Table3[];
/*
* This encryption engine implements one of 32 variations
* one the same theme depending upon the choice in the
* varient parameter (0 - 31).
*
* The algorithm itself manipulates a 40 bit input into
* a 40 bit output.
* The parameter 'input' is 80 bits. It consists of
* the 40 bit input value that is to be encrypted followed
* by a 40 bit seed value for the pseudo random number
* generators.
*/
static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output)
{
byte cse, term, index;
struct block temp1;
struct block temp2;
byte bits[30];
int i;
* we alter the seed to the LFSR's used above, then
* generate the bits to play with.
*/
for (i = 5; --i >= 0; )
temp1.b[i] = input[5 + i] ^ Secret[i] ^ Table2[i];
generate_bits(&bits[29], sizeof bits, &temp1);
* select one of 32 different variations on the
* algorithm.
*/
cse = Varients[varient] ^ Table2[varient];
* of these works on 40 bits at a time and are quite
* similar.
*/
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = input[i]) {
index = bits[25 + i] ^ input[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
}
temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
index = bits[20 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
temp2.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
}
temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
index = bits[15 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
temp1.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
}
temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
index = bits[10 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
temp2.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
}
temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
index = bits[5 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
}
temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];
for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
index = bits[i] ^ temp1.b[i];
index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
output->b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
}
}
static byte Varients[] = {
0xB7, 0x74, 0x85, 0xD0, 0xCC, 0xDB, 0xCA, 0x73,
0x03, 0xFE, 0x31, 0x03, 0x52, 0xE0, 0xB7, 0x42,
0x63, 0x16, 0xF2, 0x2A, 0x79, 0x52, 0xFF, 0x1B,
0x7A, 0x11, 0xCA, 0x1A, 0x9B, 0x40, 0xAD, 0x01};
static byte Secret[] = {0x55, 0xD6, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0x28};
static byte Table0[] = {
0xB7, 0xF4, 0x82, 0x57, 0xDA, 0x4D, 0xDB, 0xE2,
0x2F, 0x52, 0x1A, 0xA8, 0x68, 0x5A, 0x8A, 0xFF,
0xFB, 0x0E, 0x6D, 0x35, 0xF7, 0x5C, 0x76, 0x12,
0xCE, 0x25, 0x79, 0x29, 0x39, 0x62, 0x08, 0x24,
0xA5, 0x85, 0x7B, 0x56, 0x01, 0x23, 0x68, 0xCF,
0x0A, 0xE2, 0x5A, 0xED, 0x3D, 0x59, 0xB0, 0xA9,
0xB0, 0x2C, 0xF2, 0xB8, 0xEF, 0x32, 0xA9, 0x40,
0x80, 0x71, 0xAF, 0x1E, 0xDE, 0x8F, 0x58, 0x88,
0xB8, 0x3A, 0xD0, 0xFC, 0xC4, 0x1E, 0xB5, 0xA0,
0xBB, 0x3B, 0x0F, 0x01, 0x7E, 0x1F, 0x9F, 0xD9,
0xAA, 0xB8, 0x3D, 0x9D, 0x74, 0x1E, 0x25, 0xDB,
0x37, 0x56, 0x8F, 0x16, 0xBA, 0x49, 0x2B, 0xAC,
0xD0, 0xBD, 0x95, 0x20, 0xBE, 0x7A, 0x28, 0xD0,
0x51, 0x64, 0x63, 0x1C, 0x7F, 0x66, 0x10, 0xBB,
0xC4, 0x56, 0x1A, 0x04, 0x6E, 0x0A, 0xEC, 0x9C,
0xD6, 0xE8, 0x9A, 0x7A, 0xCF, 0x8C, 0xDB, 0xB1,
0xEF, 0x71, 0xDE, 0x31, 0xFF, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x5E,
0x07, 0x69, 0x96, 0xB0, 0xCF, 0xDD, 0x9E, 0x47,
0xC7, 0x96, 0x8F, 0xE4, 0x2B, 0x59, 0xC6, 0xEE,
0xB9, 0x86, 0x9A, 0x64, 0x84, 0x72, 0xE2, 0x5B,
0xA2, 0x96, 0x58, 0x99, 0x50, 0x03, 0xF5, 0x38,
0x4D, 0x02, 0x7D, 0xE7, 0x7D, 0x75, 0xA7, 0xB8,
0x67, 0x87, 0x84, 0x3F, 0x1D, 0x11, 0xE5, 0xFC,
0x1E, 0xD3, 0x83, 0x16, 0xA5, 0x29, 0xF6, 0xC7,
0x15, 0x61, 0x29, 0x1A, 0x43, 0x4F, 0x9B, 0xAF,
0xC5, 0x87, 0x34, 0x6C, 0x0F, 0x3B, 0xA8, 0x1D,
0x45, 0x58, 0x25, 0xDC, 0xA8, 0xA3, 0x3B, 0xD1,
0x79, 0x1B, 0x48, 0xF2, 0xE9, 0x93, 0x1F, 0xFC,
0xDB, 0x2A, 0x90, 0xA9, 0x8A, 0x3D, 0x39, 0x18,
0xA3, 0x8E, 0x58, 0x6C, 0xE0, 0x12, 0xBB, 0x25,
0xCD, 0x71, 0x22, 0xA2, 0x64, 0xC6, 0xE7, 0xFB,
0xAD, 0x94, 0x77, 0x04, 0x9A, 0x39, 0xCF, 0x7C};
static byte Table1[] = {
0x8C, 0x47, 0xB0, 0xE1, 0xEB, 0xFC, 0xEB, 0x56,
0x10, 0xE5, 0x2C, 0x1A, 0x5D, 0xEF, 0xBE, 0x4F,
0x08, 0x75, 0x97, 0x4B, 0x0E, 0x25, 0x8E, 0x6E,
0x39, 0x5A, 0x87, 0x53, 0xC4, 0x1F, 0xF4, 0x5C,
0x4E, 0xE6, 0x99, 0x30, 0xE0, 0x42, 0x88, 0xAB,
0xE5, 0x85, 0xBC, 0x8F, 0xD8, 0x3C, 0x54, 0xC9,
0x53, 0x47, 0x18, 0xD6, 0x06, 0x5B, 0x41, 0x2C,
0x67, 0x1E, 0x41, 0x74, 0x33, 0xE2, 0xB4, 0xE0,
0x23, 0x29, 0x42, 0xEA, 0x55, 0x0F, 0x25, 0xB4,
0x24, 0x2C, 0x99, 0x13, 0xEB, 0x0A, 0x0B, 0xC9,
0xF9, 0x63, 0x67, 0x43, 0x2D, 0xC7, 0x7D, 0x07,
0x60, 0x89, 0xD1, 0xCC, 0xE7, 0x94, 0x77, 0x74,
0x9B, 0x7E, 0xD7, 0xE6, 0xFF, 0xBB, 0x68, 0x14,
0x1E, 0xA3, 0x25, 0xDE, 0x3A, 0xA3, 0x54, 0x7B,
0x87, 0x9D, 0x50, 0xCA, 0x27, 0xC3, 0xA4, 0x50,
0x91, 0x27, 0xD4, 0xB0, 0x82, 0x41, 0x97, 0x79,
0x94, 0x82, 0xAC, 0xC7, 0x8E, 0xA5, 0x4E, 0xAA,
0x78, 0x9E, 0xE0, 0x42, 0xBA, 0x28, 0xEA, 0xB7,
0x74, 0xAD, 0x35, 0xDA, 0x92, 0x60, 0x7E, 0xD2,
0x0E, 0xB9, 0x24, 0x5E, 0x39, 0x4F, 0x5E, 0x63,
0x09, 0xB5, 0xFA, 0xBF, 0xF1, 0x22, 0x55, 0x1C,
0xE2, 0x25, 0xDB, 0xC5, 0xD8, 0x50, 0x03, 0x98,
0xC4, 0xAC, 0x2E, 0x11, 0xB4, 0x38, 0x4D, 0xD0,
0xB9, 0xFC, 0x2D, 0x3C, 0x08, 0x04, 0x5A, 0xEF,
0xCE, 0x32, 0xFB, 0x4C, 0x92, 0x1E, 0x4B, 0xFB,
0x1A, 0xD0, 0xE2, 0x3E, 0xDA, 0x6E, 0x7C, 0x4D,
0x56, 0xC3, 0x3F, 0x42, 0xB1, 0x3A, 0x23, 0x4D,
0x6E, 0x84, 0x56, 0x68, 0xF4, 0x0E, 0x03, 0x64,
0xD0, 0xA9, 0x92, 0x2F, 0x8B, 0xBC, 0x39, 0x9C,
0xAC, 0x09, 0x5E, 0xEE, 0xE5, 0x97, 0xBF, 0xA5,
0xCE, 0xFA, 0x28, 0x2C, 0x6D, 0x4F, 0xEF, 0x77,
0xAA, 0x1B, 0x79, 0x8E, 0x97, 0xB4, 0xC3, 0xF4};
static byte Table2[] = {
0xB7, 0x75, 0x81, 0xD5, 0xDC, 0xCA, 0xDE, 0x66,
0x23, 0xDF, 0x15, 0x26, 0x62, 0xD1, 0x83, 0x77,
0xE3, 0x97, 0x76, 0xAF, 0xE9, 0xC3, 0x6B, 0x8E,
0xDA, 0xB0, 0x6E, 0xBF, 0x2B, 0xF1, 0x19, 0xB4,
0x95, 0x34, 0x48, 0xE4, 0x37, 0x94, 0x5D, 0x7B,
0x36, 0x5F, 0x65, 0x53, 0x07, 0xE2, 0x89, 0x11,
0x98, 0x85, 0xD9, 0x12, 0xC1, 0x9D, 0x84, 0xEC,
0xA4, 0xD4, 0x88, 0xB8, 0xFC, 0x2C, 0x79, 0x28,
0xD8, 0xDB, 0xB3, 0x1E, 0xA2, 0xF9, 0xD0, 0x44,
0xD7, 0xD6, 0x60, 0xEF, 0x14, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0x31,
0xD2, 0x41, 0x46, 0x67, 0x0A, 0xE1, 0x58, 0x27,
0x43, 0xA3, 0xF8, 0xE0, 0xC8, 0xBA, 0x5A, 0x5C,
0x80, 0x6C, 0xC6, 0xF2, 0xE8, 0xAD, 0x7D, 0x04,
0x0D, 0xB9, 0x3C, 0xC2, 0x25, 0xBD, 0x49, 0x63,
0x8C, 0x9F, 0x51, 0xCE, 0x20, 0xC5, 0xA1, 0x50,
0x92, 0x2D, 0xDD, 0xBC, 0x8D, 0x4F, 0x9A, 0x71,
0x2F, 0x30, 0x1D, 0x73, 0x39, 0x13, 0xFB, 0x1A,
0xCB, 0x24, 0x59, 0xFE, 0x05, 0x96, 0x57, 0x0F,
0x1F, 0xCF, 0x54, 0xBE, 0xF5, 0x06, 0x1B, 0xB2,
0x6D, 0xD3, 0x4D, 0x32, 0x56, 0x21, 0x33, 0x0B,
0x52, 0xE7, 0xAB, 0xEB, 0xA6, 0x74, 0x00, 0x4C,
0xB1, 0x7F, 0x82, 0x99, 0x87, 0x0E, 0x5E, 0xC0,
0x8F, 0xEE, 0x6F, 0x55, 0xF3, 0x7E, 0x08, 0x90,
0xFA, 0xB6, 0x64, 0x70, 0x47, 0x4A, 0x17, 0xA7,
0xB5, 0x40, 0x8A, 0x38, 0xE5, 0x68, 0x3E, 0x8B,
0x69, 0xAA, 0x9B, 0x42, 0xA5, 0x10, 0x01, 0x35,
0xFD, 0x61, 0x9E, 0xE6, 0x16, 0x9C, 0x86, 0xED,
0xCD, 0x2E, 0xFF, 0xC4, 0x5B, 0xA0, 0xAE, 0xCC,
0x4B, 0x3B, 0x03, 0xBB, 0x1C, 0x2A, 0xAC, 0x0C,
0x3F, 0x93, 0xC7, 0x72, 0x7A, 0x09, 0x22, 0x3D,
0x45, 0x78, 0xA9, 0xA8, 0xEA, 0xC9, 0x6A, 0xF7,
0x29, 0x91, 0xF0, 0x02, 0x18, 0x3A, 0x4E, 0x7C};
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0xEE, 0xF2, 0x08, 0x1B, 0xA9, 0xFA, 0x98, 0x4C,
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FYI, Yahoo's got the article now too.
Reading it made me think of something. The media keeps using terms 'copy DVDs', 'pirate', and 'unauthorized copies'. But, correct me if I'm wrong, but DeCSS only allow the making of 'unauthorized DVD players'. After all, if you wanted to do a bit by bit copy, you didn't need DeCSS.
Maybe its just scemantics, but if the media's going to cover the story, they might as well get their accusations right.
My 2 cents...
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So, when Jon committed the aledged crime he was only 15 years old. In the UK this would make him a minor and would affect the way in which his case was processed (e.g. a juvenile rather than adult court). I am fairly certain that in the UK someone who is 15 cannot be a party to a contract, and this would presumably include a contract-o-matic (i.e. they cannot be held to the terms of any contract which they sign). Does anyone know if similar rules exist in Norway? Would peopler care to speculate if this may become relevant to the case?
Hi, I live in Atlanta, suburb actually. Does anyone have the itch to start a public demonstration this weekend? Possibly big publicity. Could we maybe get Stallman, Raymond, etc. to speak? Email me at: j_zuilkowski@hotmail.com
An earlier DVD CSS discussion contained several comments that there already are DVD data extraction programs for MS-Windows. The existing licensed DVD drivers for MS are already being used to get the video data. DeCSS is not needed if one wants to extract the video data. DeCSS is only needed by Linux users who want to be able to buy DVDs.
Ok, I admit I am the typical spineless, apathetic individual who reads these things with interest, but never does anything about it.
... if so, why are they arresting him?
I thought I had been keeping up with what was happening with DeCSS (Mmmm... my unused copy of the source is staying safe with me) but apparently I have missed something dire.
WTF happened between the court case here and this kid getting arrested? Has he not complied with what they wanted done (stop distributing the source or trade secrets, right?)
This is just absolutly ludicrous. While I believe myself to be informed on this topic and support this kid 100%, I know most of my readers on my websites are less than technical and probably haven't even heard of this.
I would like to make them aware of the situation and what can be done. My problem is I appear to be out of date, and all the info I've looked up/read conforms with what I *THOUHT* I knew about the case.
Can someone sum up the chain of events that lead up to this, in as concise and compact a form as possible that I can link to for my users. I would try to put this together, but would be afraid of missing something important. Once a site like this is together for the general potato(e) public, lots of sites that have non-technical readers could link to it, for a quick overview on what's happened, why it needs to stop and what we can do.
I hope this makes sense. I am willing to help in any way I can.
Thanks,
-NW
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I will never buy any more DvDs, period. Even if this kid never spends a day in jail, the amount of money he and his father will have to pay a lawyer will, I'm sure, be great. This whole mess doesn't even account for the amount of stress it will place on thier family. Funny thing is, the only reason I kept an intel machine around the house was for playing DvDs. Now I'm considering getting rid of it. If this kid and his father goe to jail, it's gone. Anyone want to hold a DvD breaking party at the next hearing here in Santa Clara?
Although you made some good points, Jon didn't write the software, he only distributed it.
Here ! .. .I have translated it for you.
- ---
Jazz.
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MEDIA GIANTS THREATEN 16 YEAR OLD COMPUTER WHIZZ.
CNN NORWAY -- 16 year old Jon Johansen cracked the codes that protect DVD
discs.
Now, media giants, such as Sony, Warner og Disney wish to punish the
Norwegian.
On Monday he was police-interviewed for seven hours.
- We have reported Jon & Per Johansen to the police on MPA and DVD CCA's
behalf,
attorney Espen Trøndel confirms to VG.
Motion Picture Association (MPA) is the organisation which collectively
watches out
for the interests of USA's seven largest movie corporations: Walt Disney,
Sony Pictures,
MGM, Paramount Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Universal Studio and Warner Bros.
DVD CCA controls and protects the copyright of DVD products.
Jon and his father er charged with violating the copyright law as well as
the criminal law
after the 16 year old participated with an international ring who developed
and distributed
the program DeCSS. This program makes it possible to copy DVD movies.
- The charge is erroneous. The keys on DVD-discs are not a copy-protection,
but a playback-
protection. All we have done is make it possible to play back DVD on our
computers, Johansen
said to VG after being released from questioning Saturday evening.
Økokrim (Division of Norewegian police, investigating financial issues)
searched Jon Johansen's
home on Monday.
Johansen had to surrender his mobile phone, computers, a number of CD's and
all the passwords
to his computers.
The District Attorney of Økokrim, Inger Marie Sunde confirms to Aftenposten
that the police
have been authorised to search Johansen's home. Sunde says that Økokrim
treat this sort of
violations very seriously.
Johansen became somewhat of a celebrity in the computer community last year,
when it became
known that he had been a member of the group MoRE. This group cracked the
protection key
for DVD movies.
Even back then, when Johansen was 15 years old, he was contacted by the
company Simonsen Musæus,
who requested he removed the information on DeCSS.
Last week, the MPA received support from US courts, so that links to DeCSS
must be removed from US sites. At this moment in time, they are the only people who
have been charged. However, Johansen has no regrets for coming forward with his full
name after the DeCSS news broke.
- 'Someone has to fight this fight', he laughs, and prepares himself for a long night.
Johansen has posted his versjon av on the Internet sight slashdot.org
CNN Norway has written this article with contributions from Verdens Gang.
Translated to English for you by Jazzman.
wouldn't it be funy if a bunch of geeks dressed up as movie stars and raided a DVD player wharehouse. Just a thought.
Norwegian law firm Simonsen & Musaeus said it had reported Johansen and his father to the police on behalf of the Motion Picture Association (MBA), a lobby group for seven major Hollywood studios.
Here's an old Livi d-dev article from Johansen which mentions that law firm.
Let's face some facts. The movie industry are not creating all this fuss to put the genie back into the bottle. They know, just as we do, that this is impossible. BUT, they hope that if they can bankrupt and few people and better still get one or two thrown into jail then when they finally release DVD2 (plus other schemes which rely on encryption to protect interlectual property such as purchasing music to download) everyone will be too scared to try and crack it and they will be able to stitch the consumer up however they like.
Now, we are not going to be able to fight this sort of thing through the courts (although that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try in the current cases) because:
a) The movie industry can afford lots of very good lawyers.
b) If the laws are not adequate they have enough money to pay polititions to change them.
Plus, we are not going to be able to get enough public support to get the few non-corrupt polititions to help because:
a) Very few people are going to be able to understand the issues (try explaining this case to your mother and see how you get on!).
b) The general media are unlikely to report the cases accurately.
c) There are an awful lot of "important" issues (economy, violent crime, environment) which the vast majority of the public care about far more than they are ever going to care about these (to them) obscure technical issues.
So, as in a military campaign we have to see what can be done about moving the fight to areas where we can play to our strengths. What is that area? Well obviously it is the INTERNET.
Most goverments would dearly like to remove child porn from the internet, yet huge quantities still slosh around every day. How is this achieved? Simple, the images are anonymously posted at regular intervals to usenet newsgroups. Do we have a newsgroup where such postings regularly occur? Perhaps we had better start one and make sure that everyone knows where it is.
The other solution has been suggested by others so I shall not labour the point. We need a server in a "free" country (e.g. China, Cayman Islands etc) through which software authors can establish an anonymous internet presence. Unfortunately, I doubt that I am living in a "free" country (UK) and my software skills are not up to the job, so I can only propose and support the idea, but at the end of the day, this is what we are going to HAVE to do.
The stupidos at MCA dont have any rigth to do this since they dident took a copyrigth and their stupid DVD code! Can somebody go tell them that!!!!! Norwegian news story here!
-Legion
Let's not forget who owns the vast majority of the media outlets, including two of the three major American networks. Yup, member conglomerates of the MPAA and DVD Forum. It is possible, even likely, that the same is true of most of the media in Europe as well.
Don't expect to get the whole truth on this from traditional media -- their hands and minds are hardly free of ill intent. In fact, don't expect to even get a reasonable portion of the truth from those sources.
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on the web encoded with a simple algorithm (rot13? :) without any informations on how to read it in clear?
... well, boys, we can sue him for unauthorized decoding of informations.
For many of us (if not all) it will be very easy to find the encoding scheme but legally the code is not public because of encoding, so nobody can sue us.
If some lawyer thinks there is some DeCSS code inside our pages
Hang on a sec here.... OK, lets see what all we've got... cast & crew info, commentary audio track (very boring), making the matrix minidoco (the directors & martial arts guys are funny), what is bullet-time? (shorter minidoco), music-only track, follow the white rabbit (shows a white bunny when a minidoco on how they did a scene is available), and, naturally, the original movie...
The severity of this situation is unbelievable.
/.) would be the only ones boycotting, we dont make up a high percentage of the dvd purchasing public. Not only that, these companies have a tight grip over the "knowledge" of the public. If CNN tells them the 15 year old boy illegally hacked something, they will belive it. Their power to control the distribution channels of information is the most difficult thing to compete. The best I can do is wear my DVDCSS tshirt and inform people on the severity of the situation. (Although most people think its a joke. It really annoys me)
A boycott of DVDs would be pointless. The individuals who are concerned and well informed on this issue (people reading
We are fighting a losing battle. Now I'm not saying we should give up, far from it. I think the best thing we can do is aggresivly continue the LiViD project, and finish it before the case is out of court. Although it would piss of the Big Evil Companies something feirce, it seems to be our only alternative.
Boycotting wont do much except give yourself a sense of satisfication. They already have, for arguments sake, an infinite amount of monetary recourses. They can throw their money around and sick packs of angry rabid lawyers at us, and win. Since when have the people "in power" -ever- listened to the geeks.
I guess this is to be expected. Free media is part of the nature of the internet. The people who make their living controlling the media distribution want to keep the old ways because they have it figured out to a science. Rather then figure out something new they would rather defend their old antiquated system, and will do everything they can to hold on to it for as long as possible.
Never underestimate the ignorance of the populace.
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Does it seem ironic to anyone else that the "crime" he is accused of basically boils down to figuring out the "passwords" (encryption keys) that DVD's use, and then when the police take him in for questioning, they not only seized his equipment, but they required him to give them his passwords?
Evil Evil Evil.
Pound! Bang! Bin! Bash! is this a shell script or a Batman comic?
Indeed. Here, as I see it, is why they're after Johansen:
The CSS licensing is not about money, it's about control. (In fact, as I understand it, the licenses are free.) As long as one has to sign a contract with the DVD CCA to get the information needed to build a DVD drive that handles CSS-protected discs, the DVD CCA has some degree of control over DVD drive manufacturers. I'm sure that the licensing contract prevents manufacturers from selling consumer-priced unrestricted hardware (i.e. drives that happily ignore region coding and can do bit-for-bit writes). Currently, all such drives are well out of the price range of the casual consumer (though not the serious, professional pirate).
But now, thanks to DeCSS, all the information needed to build a DVD drive is out in the open. Anyone who wants to can put together an unrestricted drive and sell it for $200, if that price point is profitable for them.
The DVD CCA faced a tough choice when it came to CSS. They had to choose whether to patent the system (assuming this was possible - probably, giving the current state of patents), or keep it a trade secret. Both choices have advantages and disadvantages:
The CCA chose the second option, and it has backfired on them. Now they're trying to save themselves via the court system. This is why the reverse engineering issue is probably far more important to them than the DMCA issue. If they succeed in nailing Johansen, they'll probably have frightened off anyone who was thinking of reverse-engineering the system themselves (or using the DeCSS-derived information now on the web) in order to build a player.
Note that if this happens, the CCA will have effectively aquired the same rights as if they'd patented the system - but without ever formally disclosing how the system works, as a patent would normally require. So this case could set a rather dangerous precedent: The whole point of patents is to enhance technological development, by encouraging disclosure. And the carrot used to encourage disclosure is a government-guaranteed monopoly for a limited period of time. Putting reverse engineering on legally shaky ground means that companies have a better chance of keeping a monopoly on a technology that has trade secret status.
Right now, when companies are deciding whether or not to patent something, they have to ask themselves the question: "How long before someone will be able to re-create this technology without spying on us?" If the answer is over a certain threshold, it's probably better to keep it a trade secret. If reverse engineering becomes de-facto illegal, then the question becomes "How long before someone will be able to re-create this technology without spying on us or reverse-engineering our product?" Obviously, the answer to the second question will often be greater (and never less) than the answer to the first, and thus is more likely to be over the magic threshold where patenting becomes a bad idea.
And when you consider that the question isn't really whether or not someone resorted to spying (or reverse engineering), but rather whether or not you can convince a court of this, it's even worse - making a case for reverse engineering is probably a good bit easier, if the judge doesn't understand technology well enough to understand what reverse engineering is all about. So we may even see companies trying to convince judges that a competitor illegally reverse-engineered their product when in fact no such thing took place.
Finally, it should also be noted that while this may prevent companies from going for some patents, it won't prevent them from going after most stupid ones, like the Amazon one-click, because the ability to legally reverse engineer doesn't do much to help you figure out most such 'technologies', anyways.
The only thing this will lead to is that future
hacks/cracks will be posted anonymously, for sure...
--
"I'm surfin the dead zone
In the twilight, unknown"
Is there a legal fund yet? I got 20 bucks in my pocket that is headed north if someone can setup a legal fund.
I'm still working on a clever footer.
A boycott is certainly in order. [...] It should also have a defined starting date -- how about Feb. 10, 2000?
...
If you are going to stop consuming the RIAA, MPAA and DVD Forum's products, start TODAY. A delayed boycott is no boycott at all.
Why do you want to wait? Is there a particular movie you want to see first? What makes you think there won't be another one just as appealing in three weeks?
If a complete boycott is too draconian for you, scale down your efforts. For example, limit your TV viewing to a couple of hours a week or less if zero is too difficult. Rent instead of buying or attending the cinema, if not watching movies at all is too difficult. It is far better for you to significantly reduce the flow of cash from your pocket to the RIAA, MPAA and DVD Forum immediately, than to put off a complete boycott until a later date, only to have it slip away altogether. A complete boycott is of course preferable, but every little bit helps and it is far better to do something limited in scope that still has some impact rather than nothing at all. Too often we end up thinking such things are an all or nothing thing, which doesn't have to be the case. Ten million people cutting their TV and movie consumption by 50% can have more of an impact that fifty thousand eliminating it altogether. The two together, plus others elsewhere on the spectrum, combine to be a mighty economic force indeed. Even if I stand alone, the cost to these jerks over the next year can be measured in thousands of US dollars, and from all appearances here and elsewhere, I hardly stand alone.
As I noted in another post, I will be removing the MPAA and DVD Forum from my life altogether, and using the time and money I would have spent consuming their products on alternative forms of entertainment instead. Remember, giving up movies and/or television doesn't have to mean that you are suddenly bored with nothing to do
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
Endringer i musikken går foran endringer i politikken, så de antikke grekerne. Og det ligger mye i akkurat det. Ung-spalten i FFNB tar for en stor del for seg nasjonalistisk musikk. Grunnen til dette er naturligvis at unge mennesker er interessert i musikk, ungdomstil og kultur.
Men en annen viktig grunn er også at musikken er et utrolig egnet middel til å spre våre politiske synspunkter. Og det er ikke bare "nynazistiske" tekster det dreier seg om, slik mange later til å tro! Patriotisk musikk er idag så
variert at man ikke kan klistre merkelappen "nazi-rock" på alt som gis ut av et nasjonalsinnet plateselskap.
Det å spre nasjonale meninger og uttrykk via musikk har et potensiale til å nå ut til mange flere mennesker enn hva som er tilfellet med en tunglest bok, et politisk blad, el.l. Det samme gjelder nasjonalistiske konserter som på mange måter kan virke som et viktig rekrutteringsmiddel for unge nasjonalister.
Dette er naturligvis ingen nyhet: Se bare på hvordan venstresosialistene på 1960-70- tallet arrangerte rockekonserter og "visekvelder" for å samle og rekruttere unge mennesker inn i sine organisasjoner og grupperinger. Og vi husker vel alle Gro's "Ungdomskampanje mot rasisme" i 1994, bl.a med en rocke-turne av skattefinansierte rockeband som skulle holde konserter rundt om i Norge for å indoktrinere norsk ungdom mot nasjonalisme. (turneen gikk imidlertid konkurs etter halvgått løp)
POLITISK MUSIKK INGEN NYHET!
Å benytte seg av musikk for å fremme det politiske budskapet er altså ingen ny oppfinnelse. Den såkalte Oi- og skinhead-musikken har vokst utrolig for fra midten av 1990-tallet. Idag finnes det over 1000 nasjonalistiske rockeband av ulik valør og profesjonalitet rundt om i verden, og det bare øker og øker.
Mye av musikken og ungdomskulturen som følger i kjølvannet av den er til tider radikal, både med tanke på klesstil, festing og radikal symbolbruk. Men hvilken ungdomsbevegelse og hvilket opprør har ikke "rystet" den voksne og eldre del av befolkningen?
Det gjaldt jo forsåvidt Hippie- og AKP-opprøret i -68 også. Og idag sitter disse ved makten og foreslår lovforbud mot alt fra nasjonalistiske symboler, "heiling" (som mange karakteriserer som en norrøn fredshilsning og ikke nødvendigvis en hyllest til det tyske NSDAP), nasjonalistisk rockemusikk, osv. Så ringen er sluttet for noen og enhver.
FF/NB ser det som positivt og gledelig at yngre mennesker benytter seg av musikk som politisk våpen og rekrutteringsmiddel for vår sak. Det får så være at enkelte yttrykk og utbrudd ikke balanserer innenfor det "politisk korrekte". Det er bedre at man benytter gitaren - og ikke pistolen - til politisk overbevisning! Ikke sant?
Salgsorganisasjonen NordEffekter finner du på [http://www.propatria.org/nordeffekter/]
The usual media coverage of something that might interest the /. community... 'A hacker broke the copy protection on something, he's being sued for it.' Nothing about how it might be LEGALLY useful... and about how totally INFEASIBLE it is to pirate dvd's... phh what morons.
--
linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Restating the obvious since nineteen aught five.
Don't mail-bomb them, but you can ask questions to th law-firm in norway acting on behalf of the movie-studioes. You can also tell them what you think of their way of acting. But If you mail bomb them, most of the mail will probably be sent to dev0, so be serious. this is their web page: http://www.simu.no/english.html And this is the mail address simonsen.musaeus@simu.no P.S. English is not my native Language!
I own a gun (Glock19), and love target shooting... It is a sport that require focusing.. It is simply fun!! Some people enjoy hunting, and i enjoy shooting my gun(at cardboard targets wich does not look like a silouette of a living creature of any kind...), model airplanes, go-carts, and flying ultralight aircrafts... I mean that shooting guns are no different than any other sport!! A Norwegian
1. This is a classic saga: The morning after AOL-Time-Warner-EMI a 15 year old kid takes on the New World Order. There's something seriously wrong if you're not reading about this off-Slashdot and being briefed by your Granny. Even more important than mirroring the source is mirroring the truth.
2. Who unplugged ESR and RMS and (insert 3-letter guru here)? For once, I'd like to know what they think. The media listens to them. They command influence. Typical: when you need them they're as silent as lambs.
3. ThinkGeek, where's the DeCSS t-shirt? Something like this, but without the acid-casualty background. Memorize it and grafitti it on movie posters. Mugs. Tatoos. Stickers. Screensavers. Flyers. BeerMats. The only cure for the discontents of commodification are more commodities.
4. The human spirit views censorship as damage and routes around it.
Perhaps a boycott would actually work in their favor (if it really seriously caught on). DVD encryption is broken, and there's no way to fix it... no way to prevent people from copying DVDs... unless nobody wants DVDs anymore.
The only way for MPAA to bury this is to destroy DVD and replace it with something new, shockingly similar, and better encrypted. And I think it would be a PR nightmare to pull a very popular standard and replace it with something incompatible, so they really need it to fail commercially (like minidisks) to have a good reason to pull it.
But they'd lose all that money! Nope. Everyone with a DVD player will just have to buy a brand new ??? player to play ??? disks.
How's that for a conspiracy theory?
- StaticLimit
I always wondered why do people reverse engineer formats. You can always grab information from video/audio buffers reencode it with different codec (no quality loss), post to internet. If record/movie companies were smarter, they would try to contain the technology that allows reencoding phase to happen instead of controlling the consumer side. we're entering an era of digital revolution, old approaches and methods for controlling media no longer apply.
Linux users and members of the EFF worldwide are gving massive support to the DVD arrested Jan Johanssen for Vestfold. Many people are talking of launching an E-mail campaign against the Prime Minister.
Monday, Johanssen and his father were interrogated and arrested for crimes against copyright and criminal law. After seven hours in interrogation at the Economic Crimes Division, he was allowed to notify his liasons at slashdot.org of what had happened.
I haven't eaten
"I've barely got back, I haven't eaten, and someone is clearly going to pay for this. I've already takled to my lawyer. Did someone say countersuit?", he writes.
The reactions came immediately. For the following hours declarations of support and suggestions for countermeasures were pouring in.
Countersuit
Many want to help, some want to send money, and there is a call for an E-mail campaign against the Norweigan government. One of the debaters even suggest litagating against the Norweigan government.
"Send E-mail to theis man" (Bondevik), says one of the many supporters of Jan Johansen on website slashdot.org (knows as ./ among its users).
Before long, Johansen's cyber-friends had found the E-mail addresses of Kjell Magne Bondevik, the film industry's lawyer in Norway, Espen Tøndel, and the Economic Crimes Division.
In additions, pointers to norge.no/english, okokrim.no, and Bondevik's home page are distributed.
"The good die first." "Most of us are morally ambiguous, which explains our random dying patterns." --- MST3K
CNN link
I don't know how they
can get away with it. As the report says,
they are owned by Warner.
(CNN) -- Police on Monday
raided the home of Jon
Johansen, the Norwegian
programmer who
reverse-engineered the DVD
Content Scrambling System
(CSS) to allow DVD playback
on computers running the
Linux operating system.
In a new article on vg.no, professor Jon Bing at the Norwegian Research Center for Computers and Law has some interesting comments.
/. news for nerds as an example of a site where hundreds of nerds.
The 16-year old has probably thought that he was playing around with innocent things when he broke the DVD code. But as the entertainment industry sees this, he has driven an 18-wheeler up to the front of a record store, and said "Now I'm emptying the store!"
Bing thinks that even though the intention was never to create a copy of the DVD, there are still copyright laws and laws that can be used against Jon Johansen and his father Per.
Bing continues: American courts can also claim juristiction in this matter, as the plaintiff can say that they have been hurt in their home market.
The article goes on to show the "nerd support", and cite
-- -mogsie-
hmmm..... maybe that's what Gold and Appel
are really up to. Anderson and Celine are
just floating the "resort" idea to confuse
the rubes.
You'd have to buy it from the russians outright
to remove their sovreignity but think about it.
Satellite access to anyone that points a dish
at it - no lines to cut.
garyr
-- your Web browser is Ronald Reagan
When I read this quote, it really bothered me, because it essentially states that whether we "win" or "lose" on this one, it seems like we still lose. I mean, I'd love to propose a boycott of all the companies involved in this, but would it work?
After all, if the DVD content creators win, it'll be a signal to them that ownership of media has changed. We won't own DVDs anymore, we'll own the right to use them under certain conditions stated by the DVD CSS (i.e. we must watch them under MacOS/Windows/Licensed Set-Top Box), but they won't really be our property. On the other hand, if they lose, they'll be crying all the way to the bank, and thinking "well, we got close, we'll manage it next time."
Can a boycott work? And a boycott of what I wonder?
All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
I hope somebody knowledgeable reads this before we have 2000 comments, because I'd really like to know the answer.
What law is this guy accused of violating?
If he was selling pirated copies of Windows 98, then I would be satisfied by vague justifications like "violation of copyright." But this is not a straightforward case. I know that in the U.S., the DMCA explicitly makes it illegal to "crack" copy protection (under some circumstances), but that law was only passed recently, and I'm not aware of any corresponding laws outside the U.S. So what's the deal?
MSK
If I remember right, DeCSS is released under GPL. If it is, then publishing the sources as part of the case documents still falls under the GPL's legalize; nothing in DeCSS has changed because the sources were published in a legal document.
IANAL and all that, but I don't think this analysis makes sense. Slapping the GPL on a piece of software is meaningless if you don't have the right to license it in the first place.
This case is all about determining who has the legal right to write, reverse engineer, or distribute CSS code. If the courts determine that reverse engineering CSS was a violation of the DVD user license, I believe that would make DeCSS the property of DVD-CCA even though the code was written by Jon Johansen. That, in turn, would mean that no one else, including Jon Johansen, has the right to license the code, making the version that appeared under the GPL null and void.
Ergo, we cannot safely assume that DeCSS is a GPLed document just because it says it is. The legal status of DeCSS is exactly what is at stake here.
I note that the MPAA site www.mpaa.org is curiously lacking in contact information, even if it lists tons of officers (which makes me fear that they may have troops too). I found one address however: hotline@mpaa.org which is intended for snitches and I would be most surprised if the recipient or webmaster@mpaa.org, postmaster@mpaa.org, hostmaster@mpaa.org and domain administartive contact pegge@mpaa.org wouldn't be kind enough to forward greetings to Jack Valenti, capo de tutti capi of MPAA. Better safe than sorry so send your opinions to Don Valenti to all these addresses.
check out
http://dvdcca.org/
Looks like the dvdcca.org got the dvd license just before Christmas and decided to go into attack mode. So... it was not even their trade secret until long after the reverse engineering took place.
This sounds like a "REPO-MAN" operation. Buy rights to "damaged goods" and then collect.
Therefore, we are talking about common POND SCUM!
Heh, they should add:
D. No, that's why the codes are there.
That's exactly the right answer. Copy protection mechanisms have (or should have) no legal status whatsoever, since they simply serve to make the act of copying more difficult. Bootlegging (remember, don't call it "piracy") the content, i.e., violating the copyright by making and distributing unauthorized copies, is already illegal. The act of copying is not necessarily equivalent to bootlegging, because it can be done for legitimate reasons, such as a backup copy under "fair use", and the mere act of breaking the codes is certainly not even equivalent to that, since legitimate reasons include a desire for a DVD player under Linux, or simply a geek's "because it's there" response to an interesting challenge.
Having the ability to commit a crime is not the same as actually committing it. Copy protection mechanisms are an attempt by the content providers to prevent people from having the ability to copy content, and breaking the codes is a way to regain that ability, which is not illegal -- only using it is, and even that only if the use violates the copyright. Punishing someone for "having the ability to copy DVDs" simply because he has broken the code, regardless of whether or not he has actually copied any DVDs, would be like punishing someone for "having the ability to commit murder" simply because he owns a gun (or any deadly weapon, such as a kitchen knife, baseball bat, or even his bare hands), regardless of whether or not anyone has actually been killed.
David Gould
David Gould
main(i){putchar(340056100>>(i-1)*5&31|!!(i<6)<< 6)&&main(++i);}
I watched a debate program on Norway's national broadcasting channel.Here it didn't take long to get the impression that the "økokrim"(dealing with economical crime), didn't understand excactly what he was sue'd for, only what paragraf.They compared it with another case, who the defendant was prosecuted for crime of prosit. He MADE and sold, copies of parabol code cards.He got 8 months in jail, and confiscation of the profit from sales.NO WAY, johansen will get even close to this. DONT WORRY... he will probably win, and most certaintly not jailed.
Why was my last post about this rejected ? Was it a mistake, or am I censored ?
In this CNN story, they get the facts correct. The only mainstream news story I've seen that gets it correct.
John Lapeyre lapeyre@debian.org
Be sure to send source to the mpaa.org... I'm sure for legal reasons that they have to store copies of any email. Here is a few email addresses to start you out.
fritz_attaway@mpaa.org
(Senior Vice President - Government Relations and D.C. General Counsel)
pegge@mpaa.org
(Vice President - Information Services)
tcohen@mpaa.org
(Vice President & Counsel - New Technology)
brichard@mpaa.org
(Vice President - Trade & Federal Affairs)
mkessler@mpaa.org
(Vice President - Copyright Royalty Distribution, New Technology & Planning)
hotline@mpaa.org ?
based on these addesses I'm guessing that the format of the rest of the officers is similar.
please be polite, just attach the source
If you want tell them just how sorry you are and how you are sending them their trade secret back and won't do it again.
These are all addresses I found using google against archives out on the web, so not all of them may work but they all match current officers at MPAA.
Enjoy
Mr. Cracker X cracks the encryption of Corporate Product Y and hacks an app to exploit it. Cracker X then compiles a web site dedicated to the source code but does not present it as a crack utility.
In actuality, he states that he has written a story in the c language about foo and his adventures in bar, and posts the source on the same page.
This next part is trivial, but say he then adds as a later note that someone who enjoyed the adventures of foo attempted to compile it and realized that a.out can be applied to crack the encryption of Corporate Product Y.
Where does freedom of speech come into play here? All Cracker X claimed to do was put sequences of characters on a web page to be read as a story (this may sound rediculous, but I'm sure many of you have read the parody written in c posted here on slashdot, IIRC)
I have had no experience with the app of topic and I am not even sure if this is relevent. But if he had presented the source as text rather than as a binary, would he still be liable?
I apologize if this has already been debated on /. before as I haven't the time to sift through the archives. Please redirect me if so.
ZEN is a prime number in base-36
EFF has offered to cover the legal expenses in the case of a lawsuit. EFN (eff's sister organization in norway, www.efn.no) has also offered to cover an eventual fine.
If J.K.R wrote Windows: Puteulanus fenestra mortalis!
Get a job at any of the DVD CCA member corporations and do a really bad job. Take the paychecks and tithe to EFF.. :)
Seriously though:
We have the ability to defeat CSS for our viewing pleasure and that will _NEVER_ change. We are fighting for the individuals who are being targeted legally. This is very uncomfortable for all of them and we need to do whatever we can to help them... They have done so much for us.
What's the big deal about some Linux hacker playing a DVD on his PC?
I mean, to do it, you've got to buy the DVD player (which is produced
under license, as I understand it) to play a DVD, it's economically
impractical to copy a DVD (you can buy them much cheaper than copying
them), so what's the rub?
The only objection that I can see is that one can play a DVD without
having to have the player, but that seems a bit extreme to me. In order
to do so, one would have to download an entire DVD onto their hard drive
from the net, no small feat even at T-1 or better speeds. I'd much
rather just go out and buy a DVD player (they're getting cheaper by the
day) and play a DVD on my Linux box.
Again, I am entirely missing the point of the nonsense that the MPAA and
the DVD industry is putting out. They derive their money from the sale
of players and DVDs, right? How many people are going to download
pirated movies off the net? Not many - they're just too big! So,
people are going to continue to buy players and DVDs and watch them on
their Linux boxes. Where does the DVD industry lose money? I just
don't get it.
-- Ed Carp, N7EKG erc@pobox.com PGP KeyID: 0x0BD32C9B What I'm up to: http://intuitives.mine.nu
Or more likely, they would attribute the decline in DVD sales not to a boycott but to people copying them, and then they'd be whining about copyright even more.
Good article, somebody moderate it up.
It's the closest I've heard the media admit to being afraid of "hackers." Of course they're not really afraid, they're simply preying upon public fears. It makes news.
Oh, and the article shows how this Slashdot thread is slightly blown out of proportion.
Here is the address of the English Version of the Letter. linuxguiden.linpro.no/protesteng.php
the following text was included along with the DeCSS "distribution" i had downloaded:
- ------------
- The Truth about DVD CSS cracking by MoRE and [dEZZY/DoD] -
-----------------------------------------------
Date: 4th of November 1999.
By: [dEZZY/DoD], [MultiAGP & German dood of MoRE]
This document is written cooperatively by the two groups
that independently and simultaneously cracked the DVD Content
Scrambling System, in order to straighten out mass media
confusion.
DoD -> Drink or Die: "warez bearz from Russia and Beyond"
MoRE -> Masters of Reverse Engineering
[dEZZY/DoD] alone is the author of DoD DVD Speed Ripper.
MoRE is a new group and they are the authors of DeCSS.
Lately, Jon Johansen of MoRE has been pretty much all over
the news in Norway, though he had NOTHING to do with the actual
cracking of the DVD CSS protection. Yes, it was MoRE who did
DeCSS, but the actual crack was not a team effort, MoRE didn't
even exist back when the anonymous German (who is now a MoRE
member) cracked it...
Most of the papers chose a headline very similar to this:
"15-year old Norwegian cracked the DVD-code".
They probably did this because they wanted to make a big
Norwegian "Wooohoooo" out of it. This was also pretty much
the contents of the TV show "Vestfold-sendingen" where they
brought up matters from Vestfold, Norway where Jon Johansen
lives.
In most newspapers they vagely included the name MoRE, and
that DeCSS was a team effort, but neither MoRE nor DoD liked
the headlines. Jon's comment on this matter is:
"I never told the media that I had cracked the dvd encryption.
What I told them, was that we (MoRE) had made an app called
DeCSS which would decrypt dvd movies and let them be played
off your hd, or off dvdrs if you have a dvd burner. I always
used _we_ and _MoRE_ when talking to them. I never said anything
about me or my position in the group.
Now that the storm is over, I see that all they were after,
was to get a big story. They even included some of "my" quotes,
which I never said. When media starts making up stuff, it's really
sad. I know that this has been done before in Norwegian media,
regarding the cooperation between a computer group at my school
and the school people in charge of the network. All I can say is
that I'm very sorry that the media twisted my words, and even lied,
to make it appear as I had done the cracking myself. I'm pretty
sure that I will do everything to avoid the media in the future,
but if I'm forced to talk with them, I'll have to get them to
sign an agreement. Again, I apologize on the behalf of Norwegian
press, and I hope that this document will make everything clear.
The truth shall set you free."
DoD DVD Speed Ripper was developed by [dEZZY/DoD] at the
same time as DeCSS. The first release of DoD's app (which
came out a couple of weeks before the first release of DeCSS)
did not work with all (WB) titles, like The Matrix. This was
known by [dEZZY/DoD] at the time of his release. MoRE decided
to wait until they could fix this. In short time, [dEZZY/DoD]
solved the problem and MoRE's top coder/disassembler from
Germany used that information to get DeCSS working with every
movie before they released it, along with a GUI. DeCSS was then
the first application which decrypted ALL dvd titles, since DoD
had not released a new version to the public. How MoRE got
their hands on the information by [dEZZY/DoD], seems to have
something to do with the Linux community...
Why Drink or Die didn't want to release a new version so soon,
was because warez sites nuke programs that are too close in
release (minimum 2-3 weeks). Meanwhile when DeCSS came out, it
caused DoD to delay any Windows release until a GUI version of
their Speed Ripper was done. However, they released a Linux
version of their ripper late October 1999. As for the new Windows
version of the Speed Ripper, [dEZZY/DoD] has been very busy with
his education and hence the ripper is extremely delayed.
[dEZZY/DoD] already got the idea of reverse engineering a DVD
player for the CSS code back in late summer 1998. He was not able
to do it at the time since he did not have access to a DVDROM. In
the beginning of 1999, MoRE's German member also got the idea.
[dEZZY/DoD] and MoRE's German member got CSS decryption code
working at the same time (middle of September 1999), without
having shared info (although they knew about each other). After
[dEZZY/DoD] solved "the problem", MoRE's German member, as stated
above, implemented these changes and added them to DeCSS for
release.
Before DeCSS was developed and released, MoRE had already sent
the source for the decryption to their contact in the Linux DVD
community, Derek Fawcus . This is the reason
why one of Wired's news reporters was put on the case.
[dEZZY/DoD] also had relations in the Linux DVD community (who
does not want to be mentioned), but decided not to release the
source code publicly (at least not for the moment).
Enjoy the software!
- Jon Johansen [MoRE]
- anonymous German cracker [MoRE]
- [dEZZY/DoD]
http://linuxguiden.linpro.no/protesteng .php
Should we all just type "ping -t www.riaa.com" and let 'er rip for a few weeks? Also, there is some contact information at http://www.riaa.com/tech/press/dvdencr.htm at the bottom of the page.
What is this whole thing about the Slashdot readers being powerless. Every time there is a DVD CCA article posted, I hear this we need to take a stand BS.
PEOPLE STOP TALKING AND START STANDING.
It may take a bulldozer to push a bolder off a hill, but one it gets rolling that bulldozer won't be able to stop it. Its time for action, we, the public need to start standing up and shouting.
In April of 1775, the first shot of the American Revolutionary war was fired. Let this be hailed as the first shot of a new revolution, a revolution of right against wrong, freedom against oppression. History shows that we can be sucssful.
The way I see it, we are not the body that is going to make them change, we are the body that needs to tell the masses that there is a change, that there is a wrong, and that this wrong needs to be righted, the change needs to be made.
One voice, united in nonviolent protest, for a cause is a strong force. Martin Luther King showed this. He was but a man, his actions simple and streight forward, the results changed a society. WE are many, our actions are not complicated, we must each stand up and say "NO MORE".
If every slashdot reader didnt buy a new DVD player, or that new movie on DVD, what would happen? NOTHING. We, alone, do not have the power to change the practices of a corporation, or a group of corporations. But we have to power to inform.
I propose this, start writing your local news papers, tell them the truth, get them to publish your side, more people will learn about this injustice. Write any technical or science magazines you scribe to and explain to them what the facts are, when they publish it still more will learn about this injustice. Have a firend, tell them, and tell them to tell their firends.
WE, the slashdot readers are the ones that need to make a change. WE are the ones that need to start informing people that action is needed, not the ones that need to make the problem seem insrumountable.
P.S. Someone, with better internet skills than I have should start a site deticated to this cause (sort of like Microsoft's Freedom To Innovate Network) so that our ideas, are achievments, and our plans, can be exchanged.
This is a sad day. What's next, arrests of emulator authors.
Everybody is going on and on about big multinational corporations. There are several things that most slashdot readers are forgetting.
1. It is not necessary for any corporation or citizen to ask for fair things in any American court.
2. It is necessary for a judge (Esp. since John Marshall expanded Judicial powers) to make fair rulings.
3. If coporations are paying off Judges then the crime is bribery not the lawsuit.
4. Corporations do not have the power to enforce - only the local police and federal police agencies (FBI,ATF, etc.) have this ability.
5. See number 3 about payola to police.
6. Any US Corporation has strong international powers if and only if the governments in the Non-American country supports the whims of the American corporation or union. This is up to the people (unless the company is a dictatorship - but that is a different issue)
Remember governments need to be watched more that corporations.
Probably due in large part to the open dvd site, CNN's story actually correctly states DeCSS is for watching DVDs under linux, rather than a copying mechanism as my local papers have been claiming.
Unexpected, but, "way to go" CNN.
This could mean that we need to use Specific Operating Systems to use DVDs. Such as Microsoft Windows, or others with few choices..
I don't think we could all agree to not buy DVDs altogether, However, we could possibly do this for a certain period, and use that as a scaling to see if it could be done, and maybe for longer on other occasions..
Say, set a week, in the near future, and get the word out.. Asking, that for the better of all, that no-one buy/rent DVDs, DVD players, and related items. Could this work?
I think so. I'm sure everyone wouldn't, though if enough to cost their industry some money (in lost revenew), I'm sure they'd at least look.. Might even put them a bit in check, via the medium that helps feed their greed. That's what this is all about..
It's about time we speak up for ourselves. It's obvious that the people we elected for this purpose won't.
Personally, I am currently building a couple of decent systems, and neither will have DVD considering the industry behind it could care less about me, and my ability to use this technology. Even though I feed them Fsck'ers along with many others.
Eric A. Griff <eric@cfpower.com>
Take the power back
William M. Hart, one of the lead lawyers in the DVD CCA and MPAA lawsuits, was one of the Scientology cult's paid henchmen in several cases. Defendants included Grady Ward of Arcata, California (sued for publicly taunting the cult on alt.religion.scientology), Keith Henson of Palo Alto (sued for publicizing secret cult scripture that amounted to a criminal instruction manual for the unauthorized practice of medicine), and Zenon Panoussis of Sweden, sued for posting the cult's secret scripture about murdered space aliens to alt.religion.scientology.
At the time, Hart was with the law firm of Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, and Walker. He's apparently moved since then to Proskauer, Rose. But he's still a whore for anyone with money and a secret they want suppressed. (picture)
Here's a quote from the deposition of David Miscavige, supreme leader of the cult, by defendants Ward and Henson. DM = David Miscavige; GW = Grady Ward.
"DM: Just so we have a record here and I don't care to engage in argument and I'd like the record to reflect that we've probably both been quite cordial with each other. But in reference to that, as Mr. Ward states, he has no idea what I'm referring to, the reason I was lead to believe that he would know about this is because Mr. Ward - I have seen postings from him, describing the various sexual acts that he has me engaged with various male members of the Scientology Religion, attorneys and so forth. And again, I won't state here what that is, but he has already been ruled to be disgusting by the judge.
"Mr. Hart: and let the record reflect that both Mr. Henson and Mr. Ward are snickering
GW: Let the record that William M. Hart is not well shaved and he looks like a ruffian and is causing a disruption of the deposition."
I even said that legal defense funds for him should continue. There's no way I would sell this guy out, or advocate that anyone else do so. What I was saying is that the DVD-CCA, scumbags though they are, will probably win this round, so we need to take steps to ensure that even if they do we aren't set back tremendously.
By the way, does the DMCA apply in Norway? Last I checked that was a US law.
Possibly Samuel Sheinbein? His father was born in Palestine in the 40s (note the date!), then left before 48. Sheinbein the younger and a friend butchered another young gent, then mutilated the body to try to hide the evidence of what they had done. Their motive was apparently practice - it seems they were planning on killing someone else, wanted to make sure that they could get away with it and carry it out. Mr. Tello was just a convenient victim. So when Sheinbein, his father, and his brother all fled the U.S. (making the father and brother felons in the U.S. for helping the accused flee the police despite the fact that they knew he was wanted for murder), Israel did nothing. Extradite? No, they are going to lock this evil, vicious bastard away for a few years. It is my sincere wish that Samuel Sheinbein returns to the U.S. at some point, is arrested, and returned to the state of Maryland, so he can be removed from the human race. He is a serious contaminant in the gene pool.
itachi the bloodthirsty...
And the more the criminal cult of scientology attempted to stifle criticism of its frauds and frank criminal activity, the more its secrets were dispersed to the four winds.
A lesson the MPAA is about to learn.
Even after five (5) years following the attempted RMGROUP of alt.religion.scientology by scientology attorney Helena K. Kobrin, the newsgroup is as alive as ever; in fact it consistently hits the top of Newsguy rankings.
http://www.gradyward.com/
after years of pro per litigation fighting an experienced criminal cult who spends $30 million a year on litigation, I settled for both derisory damages and an order from District Judge Jeremy Fogel that my rights of fair use and rights under the first amendment are unimpaired in any way.
the net WILL be free
I can see the wave of Hacktivists from a mile away...
I think some suits have really done themselves in this time.
daft_punk
...are definately the answer. Better yet, one could be built such that the data could be stored and retrieved without knowing where the data is going to or coming from. Consider this: a system gives you a list of files available and you send out a mobile agent to search for one. The file would be stored on multiple, redundant, randomly dispersed servers. Once the agent found the file it would travel to a few random servers to prevent any direct tracking, and would return to the source server of the query. (possibly dropping it's data package somewhere along the way, ensuring that highly queried data would be better distributed...)
The data retrieval process would be slow, but it would be completely anonymous and very fault tolerant...
Question: What time is it when the state funded gestapo arrests a 15 year old kid just because he did something the corporations don't like?
Answer: Time for every free citizen to get more guns.
http://www.mpaa.org/iisadmin/
and you can't be held responsible for this baseless slander, because you posted as an Anonymous Coward. But watch out, Rob has your IP address. And now, crawl back into your hole, nazi!
The Hollywood industry should rather fire and jail the developers of the weak code in the DVDs than trying to make life hard for a bright person! This just tells a bit of the movie-industry...
"anti-Linux == treason" is a useful meme which the general population can understand.
No, No, No!!!! Associating a political movement that strongly with Linux moves Linux into politics (which isn't it's strongpoint...) Use the "Open Source Ideals" to foster cultural change instead.
Using *Linux* WILL NOT REACH THE TECHNICNOLOGICALLY ILLETERATE!
(Who buy the vast majority of DVDs, etc...)
The Open Source Movement has VAST potential for political change, and is *much* better suited for the foundation of a massive cultural change (which *IS* what you're talking about, you know...)
Good luck, I'm with you all the way... (I don't own a TV, and don't want one for exactly those reasons...)
Oh, by the way, I'm AC only because I don't have a login....
The fuss being raised over this breaking of DVD encryption raises a rather curious point. Why did they not provide some Linux drivers in the first place? The coding effort to create the drivers would seem to be much less than sending in the legal dogs to squash all the fuss this has created. Anyone with any computer sense should know that something like this was inevitable if they didn't provide at least closed source drivers to DVD for Linux. I mean, think about it. Linux, the one community of users that has more fundamental knowledge of how to work with computers than any other user group. Are these guys actually clueless enough to think that someone wouldn't eventually do this, or do they think it's worth all this effort just to make a statement? For heaven's sake, write the driver and be done with it! Those guys invented the encoding scheme for the DVD; they must have known it would be defeatable. Why did they deliberately exclude Linux? I would think the potential user base, while small compared to the Windows users, would be sufficient to justify the creation of a Linux driver. Why ignore the market, and create an environment ripe for the breaking of the encryption? Did they just not think about it, do they think it's worth all this just to defend an encoding scheme which does not protect DVDs even if not broken, or is there some other compelling reason to avoid Linux? Even now, when it has to be blindingly obvious that the Open Source community is interested in using DVD, they make no attempt to avoid all the fuss of people digging into the code by providing a driver. Even if the public believes the encryption is necessary for the pirating of DVD, they HAVE to know that it doesn't. It's their own industry! How could they not know that? The genie is already out of the bottle as far as illegal activity is concerned, anyway. The only activity that can be stopped now by all this effort is the use of the software in a Linux driver, or some other open use. Underground activity, whatever the heck it is they are worried about, will occur anyway. All the court rulings in the world couldn't stop anything now except use of the code to create drivers or other players. Why don't they make it a non-issue and write the driver? Any ideas? Another question. If a small group in Norway could break it, what's to prevent a determined group with actual illegal intentions to do the same thing? AND if illegal use was the intent, just about the dumbest thing I can think of to do would be to put it in open view on the internet. Just one more point. If a few spare time programmers are able to break this thing, and if there was any advantage to doing so, wouldn't it have been done long since by people who were intent on making illegal money off of illegal DVDs? Realistically, what are the chances that that Norway group performed an encryption-breaking feat that no other group of actually warped, pirating techies out there could have done? And a lot sooner, if there was any incentive? Helllllppp! Common sense, plese!
"I object to doing things that computers can do." -- Olin Shivers, lispers.org
Cases like this seem to come down to who can win the publicity war.
What if action groups were to pick on an organisation (such as the BBC) and were to email a department, or individual reporter with their story/complaints.
If their attention can be raised, especially were there appears to be a juicy conflict, then perhaps "news" can be made. Facts pro/con can be presented and if a case has merit, then it could have a good chance.
Since the DVD companies are motivated by commercial pressures and value their reputation, then adverse publicity could seriously limit their bullying tactics.
While at it, a list of contact emails could be created for use in cases like this. Why only limit the protest to only one organisation?
Mark.
What we still don't seem to get is that we don't need guns anymore.
It still amazes me how some people can be bright enought to understand how a computer works but still not understand how the world works. They think we live in a world where everything is nice, justice happens, people have rights, and anything can be solved with computers. It may sound nice, but it's not how the world is.
Governments will always have guns. So will criminals. And they will use their guns to enforce their will on the people. They also may use fines, imprisonment, or even torture to enforce their will, but these punishments will always be backed up by the lowest denominator: guns. It's not nice, but that's how the world works.
As long as governments and criminals posess guns, the people will also need to posess them. That's what's meant by power being in the hands of the people. Unless the people also posess guns, they have nothing to counter the government (or criminals) abuse of deadly force to enforce its will. They also have no means to enforce the will of the people upon government. You do believe the people should have power over the government, right? Unless the people have the option to back up their vote with armed revolution, there is nothing compelling government to honor the vote of the people. Why do you think so many initiatives voted in by the people lately have been thrown out or simply ignored by the government? It's because the people, voluntarily or not, have been disarmed and no longer posess real power. In other words, an unarmed man (or woman - the english language needs better pronouns) is not a citizen because he has no means to enforce his vote. The best an unarmed man can hope to be is a subject of the government.
If it really came back to a question of freedom
But it really IS a question of freedom. Right now! This issue is not just about protecting copyrights. It's about the freedom of the people to express themselves being trampled under the desire of the powerful and wealthy to protect their power and wealth.
WE of any community on the planet know how easy it is to CRACK all the offensive corporations back to the stoneage
Then why hasn't it happened yet? Surely the behavior of the MPAA deserves this sort of response. Why don't you do it? Is tomorrow too soon? Actions speak louder than words so get cracking!
Could it be that nobody has ever been "cracked back to the stone age" because it isn't so easy (or possible) after all? Or because it wouldn't actually accomplish anything? Or because any attempt would result in the government sending its police or soldiers (armed with guns) to arrest, imprison, or even kill anyone who makes the attempt?
there are worse things than a bullet now.
Oh really? What about the bullet that passes through your skull after it's fired by a government controlled policeman or soldier while he's breaking into your home during a raid to sieze any DVD decryption software you might have there just because a wealthy corporation doesn't want you to have it? I should think that particular bullet would be pretty terrible.
Why don't we try a little experiment? First I'll "crack your computer back to the stone age". Then I'll shoot you through the head with a bullet. Then you can tell me which is worse.
http://linuxguiden.linpro.no/protesteng.php
What the...? I think I saw a penguin...
Who want to play their DVDs, you mean. The MPAA and DVD-CCA don't mind at all if Linux users want to buy DVDs and put money in their pockets... Actually using them is another matter.
Their explicit position is that Linux users have no right to view their legally-purchased DVDs unless the DVD-CCA allows them to. Read the words of John Hoy, president of DVD-CCA:
One of the most frequent argument for why DeCSS is a Good Thing is that Linux people have no DVD decoder available.
Several people have said that reverse engineering is legal in Norway.
So: reverse engineering the Xing decoder to make and distribute DeCSS is not allowed in Norwegian copyright law (for a full text of the law concerning computerprograms and databases look at Lovdata's page.Now, before a bunch of other laymans lawyers like me pounce on me and say that you have to reverse engineer the Xing Decoder to ensure functional compilance with their DVD player under Linux: The law is about functioning with the program you reverse engineer. Thus I can reverse engineer Word to obtain the knowledge to make a program that functions with Word. Not to make another Word processor.
Jon Johansen did not write the decoding part for DeCSS, therefore they have nothing on him.
The Norwegian goverment is suing JJ on it's own.
Let me finish by saying that I think it stinks that you can't use DVD's on Linux, but this is because no one bothered to develop one legaly.
If someone want to chew me out for this they can either respond here or send an email to DVD@henriksen.no (last alternative ensures the quickest reply)
- Glenn
I am happy to tell that the #"#"arrest of Jon Johansen has been debate in Norway too, belive it or not.... Today a Member of the Parliament,- Eirik Solheim, asked the minister of culture about the governments thought of WWW......the answer was puzzling...... Give your vote to: The dept. that raided Jon Johansen: Økokrim Økokrim Postboks 8193 Dep 0034 Oslo Norway Phone: +47 22865400 Fax: +47 22865499 Email: okokrim@okokrim.no Email comp.crime unit: datakrim@okokrim.no Prime minister of Norway: Kjell Magne Bondevik Statsministerens kontor Postboks 8001 Dep 0030 Oslo Norway Phone: +47 22249090 Fax: +47 22249500 Email: statsministeren@smk.dep.telemax.no The lawyer representing MPA: Espen Tøndel Simonsen Musæus DA Postboks 727 Sentrum 0105 Oslo Norway Phone: +47 22936500 Fax: +47 22936550 Email: etondel@simu.no
Is Disney one of the culprits? I ask because I own some Disney stock. I'll dump it if Disney is one of the bad guys here. I don't want to be part-owner of one of the comanies doing this.
Here's an article with a somewhat different view on the case. Why should this boy get all this support?? http://juniks.org/nyhet/Y225.html
..for years and years, the MPAA has been trying to "protect our youth" by assigning movies that contain guns and violence an R rating, yet feel no remorse over raiding a 16 year olds home, guns most likely at their ready. The MPAA is being so unjust in this case it sickens me. I hope the kid can afford some great lawyers.
If one said company does not want their product 'raped' for all its worth, then that company should not proliferate that 'technologicly' advanced product. If they are going to 'advance society' and bring the ubiquitous us to a greater luxury level because that product can get it done better or more conveniantly then MAKE IT MORE SECURE!!!! in terms of our (USA's) export laws, they are designed to protect, but like most things the government does, it hurts some one. It just so happens that our trade laws would hurt some rich, overly capitalistic loser's walet. Or they comprimise themselves and leave their product open for a full ~overhaul~ by some gifted intelectual who wants to further the technology of the commen individual who wants stability AND security through the OPEN and ~free~ environment inwhich some of us wish to exist.
I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. I needed that. I just about pissed myself laughing while I was reading your post. You really think like that? Please tell me you're putting me on. No? *sigh* I know, I shouldn't be a smartass and antagonize, but I really don't think there'd be any hope of sense prevailing in this case. Anything rational I say will just bounce of your closed mind. You don't enjoy your life very much, do you? It must take a lot of work to keep yourelf this upset. Do you wear yourself out leaping to conclusions and fighting your invisible moral dragons? Seriously though, I wish you well, even though I fear it's a lost cause. I hope you find what you're looking for some day. You sure won't find it this way.
I haven't been able to read all the posts (connection too slow) so i don't know if someone has already posted something about this.
Since when is it ok to pirate and reverse engineer software. Unless I am mistaken he did exactly that to a BETA verion of XING DVD player.
The ends does not justify the means.
-Colourless
Well, I'm glad somebody understands how this place works.