Re:Heh, love how science works
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mid-1950s Wernher von Braun and Heinz Haber built the Rocket to the Moon ride for Tomorrowland, the first Disney theme park. Both were ex-Nazis. Heinz had done high-speed high-altitude tests on prisonners at Dachau.
Disney isn't the cleanest corporation!
Back to snake flight...Animal flight is generally hard to replicate. Wasps have extremely complicated beat patterns. This snake gliding will be much easier to simulate.
It is cruel and unusual for the human because he/she is self-aware and understands what is happening. He/she can appreciate the fact that they are being tortured. Rats cannot.
Give me more evidence before you say rats are not self-aware! Sure
they don't talk with us, but to conclude rats are not self-aware is illogical.
Remember all animals react to pain, and yes 'animals' includes humans.
Scientific American published an article (complete with pictures) about the sucessful creation of headless mice. Certainly you could justify their actions in terms of "the quest for knowledge" but at some point morality must weigh in. I suspect that the boundries placed on this kind of research cannot come from the desensitized scientists alone.
...surveillance of free citizens...
How long until we recognize that the surveillance must be mutual?
The number of ways that governments and corporations can track an individuals behaviour proliferate (consumer cards like air miles and drug store point cards as well as traffic cameras) whereas the reciprocal surveillance individual citizens have access to is limited by the media (controlled by a limited number of media monopolies).
One way of evening this balance would be to force all data into a public domain. We certainly have a media that can handle it.
Public scrutiny would prevent abuses of power.
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mid-1950s Wernher von Braun and Heinz Haber built the Rocket to the Moon ride for Tomorrowland, the first Disney theme park. Both were ex-Nazis.
Heinz had done high-speed high-altitude tests on prisonners at Dachau.
Disney isn't the cleanest corporation!
Back to snake flight...Animal flight is generally hard to replicate. Wasps have extremely complicated beat patterns. This snake gliding will be much easier to simulate.
It is cruel and unusual for the human because he/she is self-aware and understands what is happening. He/she can appreciate the fact that they are being tortured. Rats cannot.
Give me more evidence before you say rats are not self-aware! Sure they don't talk with us, but to conclude rats are not self-aware is illogical.
Remember all animals react to pain, and yes 'animals' includes humans.
Scientific American published an article (complete with pictures) about the sucessful creation of headless mice. Certainly you could justify their actions in terms of "the quest for knowledge" but at some point morality must weigh in. I suspect that the boundries placed on this kind of research cannot come from the desensitized scientists alone.
(i think the article appeared in SciAm Sept 95)
...surveillance of free citizens... How long until we recognize that the surveillance must be mutual? The number of ways that governments and corporations can track an individuals behaviour proliferate (consumer cards like air miles and drug store point cards as well as traffic cameras) whereas the reciprocal surveillance individual citizens have access to is limited by the media (controlled by a limited number of media monopolies). One way of evening this balance would be to force all data into a public domain. We certainly have a media that can handle it. Public scrutiny would prevent abuses of power.