Thanks for the reply - I was wracking my brains as well. Many of these innovations... probably aren't. So I started my post saying these were "possible innovations":)
Force feedback pre se would be decades older than microsoft, but I think Sidewinder may be the first force-feedback seen in gaming joysticks (I could be wrong though).
MS seem to have a history of building quite good hardware (their 2 button mouse was lovely compared to the others back in the day)
Here are all the possible Microsoft "innovations" I can think about: - Someone mentioned the Tablet PC earlier - PocketPC/PalmPC - Force feedback in joysticks (sidewinder) - Mouse Right-click ('context'):-D - Mouse Scroll wheel (another company invented it IIRC, but MS's H/W also implemented it) - A scroll wheel that tilts sideways - Many tiny but useful innovations in their office software - DirectX (IIRC, it came out before XWindows's DRI; I don't recall situation for Mac OS)
I think MS's biggest selling point is NOT their leadership in innovation, neither does it need to be, despite Ballmer's wishful thinking. I think their USP is just the hard slog of competing in functionality in office software, and device driver support in OS' for just about *everything*. That last point is a big deal when you don't control H/W like Apple does -- IIRC, MS had a fair few employees involved creating or upgrading device drivers. Linux is catching up to their level on the desktop, but this has taken years.
Thanks.:) I hope it works if someone tries it. Perhaps it would be even possible to have easy-as "add password" mode - scan the URL on screen, then write down the username/password on a piece of paper (or notepad) and scan that. Destroy the piece of paper.
Regarding an algorithm to generate a unique password, take a look at the page source of the Javascript password generator link to in my previous post - that guy has implemented the MD5 algorithm in Javascript (see "function core_md5(x, len)")! Is this what you had in mind? His Javascript generates a unique password per site based on a secret master password you keep in your head. Totally cool!
Problem statelment: How to associate one string (domain name) with another string (username/password combination)? a.k.a. translate strings.
Here's a whacky possible solution: use a translator pen, such as this:"SuperPen Translator" - which supports 'custom dictionaries' , to store passwords. Run the pen across site's address bar displayed on the computer screen, and the pen translates it to your username/password for that site.
Are you wilfully keeping yourself from understanding? Let me repeat - certain points in microwaved food may reach temperatures never reached outside (i.e. hotspots) - you have no simple way of telling. Contrast this to conventional cooking, where there is a straightfoward upper bound on temperature that _no_ part of the food will ever cross.
> The temperature of your flame is much, much higher than you will ever attain in a microwave.
Take look at the other interesting reply to you by an AC that I echoed - he claims a plain grape generates a plasma.
Take a look at this paper: it describes a witches brew of "oil fractions produced by microwave-assisted pyrolysis of different sewage sludges". Interestingly, it describes different products formed when heating the sewage conventionally, v/s heating in a microwave. Why? A webpage on their research also states "800-1000C to be attained with microwave power of 1 kW and frequency of 2450 MHz." - the same power level available in many home microwaves.
My mentioning microwaved cheese tasting funny IS pertinent to this discussion. The funny taste may indicate high temperature products formed during microwaving, but not formed when cooking pizza in a normal oven (Consider: by definition, cheese in a normal over goes through the entire range of temperature - from room temperature, to oven temperature - yet microwaved cheeese tastes different - why?)
Thanks - very interesting post AC: echoing your post below as it isn't modded up.... -------------
Re:I WOULD worry about the laptop (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05, @06:41PM (#12983620)
> Consider this: Why can't you brown foods in a microwave without special equipment?
While it's quite easy to blacken and burn food from the inside out, or even make it burst into flames, that elusive trick of giving your food a gentle surface browning with a microwave oven will definitely require special equipment - to absorb the RF and transform it to heat in a more controllable manner, external to the food, which then gets applied to the surface of the food in the form of conventional heat for that browning effect.
> The temperature of your flame is much, much higher than you will ever attain in a microwave.
Wrong!
Try putting a single sliced grape in your microwave, and then try telling me that the blinding fiery arcs of electrified plasma are somehow below the boiling point of water.
It's a plasma arc, for crying out loud! How hot is that?
The main thing to realize is that more than just heat is involved. High voltages and powerful electric currents also pass through the food, affecting its chemical nature.
Try actually eating a grape that's been microwaved as per the above URL, and then consider how much microwave radiation you want your gonads exposed to.
> > However, it's a known fact that the mechanics of microwave cooking > > are fundamentally different from traditional cooking
> No, it's not. Like all forms of traditional heat-utilizing cooking, > you heat up the food at some place, which heats the rest of it.
You are wrong.
When I cook something in normal fashion, I can be sure that the temperature of the food is BELOW the temperature of my heat source - the grill, open fire, oven, steam, etc. Not so with microwave cooking - I can't reliably estimate temperatures reached within the food. Certain parts of the food can reach temperatures never attained in normal cooking (since the food as a whole would be destroyed at those temperatures.) Localized reactions can generate harmful compounds at such temperatures, which would be masked by the taste of the bulk of the food.
If you think this cannot happen, that's just an article of your blind faith. As for me, I know the cheese in my pizza tastes funny when I reheat it in a microwave.
And that's just the thermal effects of microwave radition. There is growing body of evidence for non-thermal effects: see interesting opinion here and a summary mention here that says: It is clear, though, that nonthermal effects do play a role in some reactions.
Actually, having brushed up on my reading, let me correct the subject of my thread - I WOULD worry about the laptop, but perhaps more on where the built wifi antenna is positioned.
> Did you read the articles you're using as evidence?
I read up on the older Swiss work several years ago. A gag order for it is just stupid. This is just a recent link I found with Google that references it. I didn't read the second paper, just it's abstract, which you quoted:
> "High-pressure boiling, low-pressure boiling (conventional), > steaming and microwaving were the four domestic cooking processes used in this work . . .. > [W]e can conclude that a greater quantity of phenolic compounds will be provided > by consumption of steamed broccoli as compared with broccoli prepared by other cooking processes." > So the only process that's significantly different is steaming. > That means that microwaving is as bad as boiling.
No.
Sure you can comprehend differences in this paragraph from the abstract that you missed quoting:
Clear disadvantages were detected when broccoli was microwaved, namely high losses of flavonoids (97%), sinapic acid derivatives (74%) and caffeoyl-quinic acid derivatives (87%). Conventional boiling led to a significant loss of flavonoids (66%) from fresh raw broccoli, while high-pressure boiling caused considerable leaching (47%) of caffeoyl-quinic acid derivatives into the cooking water.
I doubt a laptop CPU emits enough microwave radiation to irradiate your gonads. It may run at 2.4 GHz but as I understand it, it emits plain non-microwave heat - the type you get when a resistor is heated by an electric current.
It's well known that heat (hot bath, sauna, etc) causes a drop in male fertility, but it's temporary IIRC. Just don't use a laptop while trying to conceive a child.
I used Trumpet Winsock too, as well as helped a company tune a different commercial Windows TCP stack for their satellite network.
But the parent poster is right when when he says: "if you think for a moment that microsoft using the BSD stack didn't smooth things over for the net"
It was Microsoft's *bundling* of a high-quality stack in the OS that made it convenient for a lot of people to use TCP/IP, both in internal networks and on the internet.
More liberal licenses *ARE* useful to the public at large, since they stimulate innovation in general. Some of the companies that use it will contribute stuff back, and some won't... that's the nature of the license, and that's perfectly fine. Look at Sun and their use of BSD as another example.
Well, it is your intent that matters and it's the judge's job to discover the intent behind your act.
Telling a sallow kid with bags under his eyes: "That guys sells the most potent heroin in town! Enjoy yourself kid!"...is VERY different from: "That guys sells the most potent heroin in town! Enjoy yourself officer!"
i guess they could run trucks by twice or thrice a year and if the images differed by a significant %, bump the images up to a human to make a chioce on which image to display on A9..
More on Google 3D maps 3D Buildings Lets start with the big things first. On selected US cities, you can view a grey scale 3D rendering of the city skyline. Pictures are worth more then words so I'll let the screenshots do the talking.... This was in Keyhole but it's still amazing. Screenshots really can't capture how amazing it is to freely move around a 3D world.
Amazon's "Blockview" The most powerful technology A9.com invented for Yellow Pages is "Block View," which brings the Yellow Pages to life by showing a street view of millions of businesses and their surroundings. Using trucks equipped with digital cameras, global positioning system (GPS) receivers, and proprietary software and hardware, A9.com drove tens of thousands of miles capturing images and matching them with businesses and the way they look from the street.
> "A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, > as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television > evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616."
Why not take a look at the source itself?, which states: One feature of particular interest is the number that this papyrus assigns to the Beast: 616, rather than the usual 666. (665 is also found.) We knew that this variant existed: Irenaeus cites (and refutes) it.
Irenaeus was born in AD 130 - 2 centuries before this papyrus. The 616 was dismissed as error even back then. Irenaeus writes: 1. Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end), I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one.
The number is 666 as Irenaeus testimony (itself based on those that knew John - the author of the Book of Revelation personally) and the vast majority of manuscripts attest. Perhaps the fact that this papyrus was found in an "ancient rubbish heap" means something.
Hmm, this (or similar functionality) could be used by cards (credit/debit/payment/etc.) that stored a set of secret codes on the card and used them to derive authorization information that was displayed in time-sychronised fashion (like the RSA SecurID hardware token)
For even lower power consumption, the clock could be dispensed with, and the card could just display authorization derived using the last unused key. Such a card could probably use solar cells for power as some calculators do today.
It could also display the transaction information required (key, cardholder details, etc) as a barcode that could be scanned for payment.
Vendors involved in your user group's technology have a vested interest in it's success.
First, it's extremely useful if you prepare a neat 1-page PDF flier -- just a bit about your user group and how to join it.
Next, try contacting vendors in your local area - invite their staff to join (as long as they are genuine users of this technology). Also ask if their marketing people can pass on the flyer to interested customers.
Last but not least, encourage existing group members to pass on the flier or a link to your user group website to friends who may be interest in joining up.
My impression of Wikis are they're great for maintaining loosely-structured text, but not more structured data. So a question tangentially related to this topic:
Can wikis have components where one wiki page refer to 'slices' of another wiki page?
Each page has a table at top right on vital stats for each country. However, the tables on these pages seem maintained by hand and differ subtly - For eg: the table for Paraguay is missing an entry for "GDP", but the table for Paraguay contains.
It would be better for both tables to be 'slices' of a huge wiki table where vital stats of all countries were maintained... somewhat Aspect-Oriented-Programming-ish. Perhaps one wiki page could include in specific element/sub-elements from another page using named DIVs or XHTML? Do existing wikis support this?
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Thanks for the reply - I was wracking my brains as well. Many of these innovations... probably aren't. So I started my post saying these were "possible innovations" :)
Force feedback pre se would be decades older than microsoft, but I think Sidewinder may be the first force-feedback seen in gaming joysticks (I could be wrong though).
MS seem to have a history of building quite good hardware (their 2 button mouse was lovely compared to the others back in the day)
Here are all the possible Microsoft "innovations" I can think about: :-D
- Someone mentioned the Tablet PC earlier
- PocketPC/PalmPC
- Force feedback in joysticks (sidewinder)
- Mouse Right-click ('context')
- Mouse Scroll wheel (another company invented it IIRC, but MS's H/W also implemented it)
- A scroll wheel that tilts sideways
- Many tiny but useful innovations in their office software
- DirectX (IIRC, it came out before XWindows's DRI; I don't recall situation for Mac OS)
I think MS's biggest selling point is NOT their leadership in innovation, neither does it need to be, despite Ballmer's wishful thinking. I think their USP is just the hard slog of competing in functionality in office software, and device driver support in OS' for just about *everything*. That last point is a big deal when you don't control H/W like Apple does -- IIRC, MS had a fair few employees involved creating or upgrading device drivers. Linux is catching up to their level on the desktop, but this has taken years.
Thanks. :) I hope it works if someone tries it. Perhaps it would be even possible to have easy-as "add password" mode - scan the URL on screen, then write down the username/password on a piece of paper (or notepad) and scan that. Destroy the piece of paper.
Regarding an algorithm to generate a unique password, take a look at the page source of the Javascript password generator link to in my previous post - that guy has implemented the MD5 algorithm in Javascript (see "function core_md5(x, len)")! Is this what you had in mind? His Javascript generates a unique password per site based on a secret master password you keep in your head. Totally cool!
Problem statelment: How to associate one string (domain name) with another string (username/password combination)? a.k.a. translate strings.
Here's a whacky possible solution: use a translator pen, such as this:"SuperPen Translator" - which supports 'custom dictionaries' , to store passwords. Run the pen across site's address bar displayed on the computer screen, and the pen translates it to your username/password for that site.
Here's another of those pens: C-Pen.
Of course, if none of their dictionaries are user-editable, and if they have no SDK, this won't work.
Here's a more sensible solution: Javascript password generator
(Video about it - flash format)
comprehend the rest of my points, and get back to me.
Are you wilfully keeping yourself from understanding? Let me repeat - certain points in microwaved food may reach temperatures never reached outside (i.e. hotspots) - you have no simple way of telling. Contrast this to conventional cooking, where there is a straightfoward upper bound on temperature that _no_ part of the food will ever cross.
> The temperature of your flame is much, much higher than you will ever attain in a microwave.
No, wrong
Take a look here: a domestic microwave oven can be used to melt metal at 1000 degrees Celsius.
Take look at the other interesting reply to you by an AC that I echoed - he claims a plain grape generates a plasma.
Take a look at this paper: it describes a witches brew of "oil fractions produced by microwave-assisted pyrolysis of different sewage sludges". Interestingly, it describes different products formed when heating the sewage conventionally, v/s heating in a microwave. Why? A webpage on their research also states "800-1000C to be attained with microwave power of 1 kW and frequency of 2450 MHz." - the same power level available in many home microwaves.
My mentioning microwaved cheese tasting funny IS pertinent to this discussion. The funny taste may indicate high temperature products formed during microwaving, but not formed when cooking pizza in a normal oven (Consider: by definition, cheese in a normal over goes through the entire range of temperature - from room temperature, to oven temperature - yet microwaved cheeese tastes different - why?)
Thanks - very interesting post AC: echoing your post below as it isn't modded up....
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Re:I WOULD worry about the laptop (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05, @06:41PM (#12983620)
> Consider this: Why can't you brown foods in a microwave without special equipment?
While it's quite easy to blacken and burn food from the inside out, or even make it burst into flames, that elusive trick of giving your food a gentle surface browning with a microwave oven will definitely require special equipment - to absorb the RF and transform it to heat in a more controllable manner, external to the food, which then gets applied to the surface of the food in the form of conventional heat for that browning effect.
> The temperature of your flame is much, much higher than you will ever attain in a microwave.
Wrong!
Try putting a single sliced grape in your microwave, and then try telling me that the blinding fiery arcs of electrified plasma are somehow below the boiling point of water.
http://c3po.barnesos.net/homepage/lpl/grapeplasma
It's a plasma arc, for crying out loud! How hot is that?
The main thing to realize is that more than just heat is involved. High voltages and powerful electric currents also pass through the food, affecting its chemical nature.
Try actually eating a grape that's been microwaved as per the above URL, and then consider how much microwave radiation you want your gonads exposed to.
> > However, it's a known fact that the mechanics of microwave cooking
> > are fundamentally different from traditional cooking
> No, it's not. Like all forms of traditional heat-utilizing cooking,
> you heat up the food at some place, which heats the rest of it.
You are wrong.
When I cook something in normal fashion, I can be sure that the temperature of the food is BELOW the temperature of my heat source - the grill, open fire, oven, steam, etc. Not so with microwave cooking - I can't reliably estimate temperatures reached within the food. Certain parts of the food can reach temperatures never attained in normal cooking (since the food as a whole would be destroyed at those temperatures.) Localized reactions can generate harmful compounds at such temperatures, which would be masked by the taste of the bulk of the food.
If you think this cannot happen, that's just an article of your blind faith. As for me, I know the cheese in my pizza tastes funny when I reheat it in a microwave.
And that's just the thermal effects of microwave radition. There is growing body of evidence for non-thermal effects: see interesting opinion here and a summary mention here that says: It is clear, though, that nonthermal effects do play a role in some reactions.
Actually, having brushed up on my reading, let me correct the subject of my thread - I WOULD worry about the laptop, but perhaps more on where the built wifi antenna is positioned.
> Did you read the articles you're using as evidence?
.
I read up on the older Swiss work several years ago. A gag order for it is just stupid.
This is just a recent link I found with Google that references it.
I didn't read the second paper, just it's abstract, which you quoted:
> "High-pressure boiling, low-pressure boiling (conventional),
> steaming and microwaving were the four domestic cooking processes used in this work . . .
> [W]e can conclude that a greater quantity of phenolic compounds will be provided
> by consumption of steamed broccoli as compared with broccoli prepared by other cooking processes."
> So the only process that's significantly different is steaming.
> That means that microwaving is as bad as boiling.
No.
Sure you can comprehend differences in this paragraph from the abstract that you missed quoting:
Clear disadvantages were detected when broccoli was microwaved, namely high losses of flavonoids (97%), sinapic acid derivatives (74%) and caffeoyl-quinic acid derivatives (87%). Conventional boiling led to a significant loss of flavonoids (66%) from fresh raw broccoli, while high-pressure boiling caused considerable leaching (47%) of caffeoyl-quinic acid derivatives into the cooking water.
I doubt a laptop CPU emits enough microwave radiation to irradiate your gonads. It may run at 2.4 GHz but as I understand it, it emits plain non-microwave heat - the type you get when a resistor is heated by an electric current.
It's well known that heat (hot bath, sauna, etc) causes a drop in male fertility, but it's temporary IIRC. Just don't use a laptop while trying to conceive a child.
Of more concern are studies on microwave cooking that suggest it induces molecular changes to the food that may be harmful to humans: here's a discussion about a Swiss study once subjected to a gag order. Some label this pseudoscience. However, it's a known fact that the mechanics of microwave cooking are fundamentally different from traditional cooking and can lead to worse nutritional outcomes
I used Trumpet Winsock too, as well as helped a company tune a different commercial Windows TCP stack for their satellite network.
But the parent poster is right when when he says:
"if you think for a moment that microsoft using the BSD stack didn't smooth things over for the net"
It was Microsoft's *bundling* of a high-quality stack in the OS that made it convenient for a lot of people to use TCP/IP, both in internal networks and on the internet.
More liberal licenses *ARE* useful to the public at large, since they stimulate innovation in general. Some of the companies that use it will contribute stuff back, and some won't... that's the nature of the license, and that's perfectly fine. Look at Sun and their use of BSD as another example.
"David Clark, who led the development of the internet in the 1970s"
Vint Cerf, Al Gore, David Clark...?
Well, it is your intent that matters and it's the judge's job to discover the intent behind your act.
...is VERY different from:
Telling a sallow kid with bags under his eyes:
"That guys sells the most potent heroin in town! Enjoy yourself kid!"
"That guys sells the most potent heroin in town! Enjoy yourself officer!"
Thanks. I'd love to hear him explain his algorithm. :)
What's the answer? O(n) right?
Hehehe :-)
i guess they could run trucks by twice or thrice a year and if the images differed by a significant %, bump the images up to a human to make a chioce on which image to display on A9..
Some related info:
...
More on Google 3D maps
3D Buildings
Lets start with the big things first. On selected US cities, you can view a grey scale 3D rendering of the city skyline. Pictures are worth more then words so I'll let the screenshots do the talking.
This was in Keyhole but it's still amazing. Screenshots really can't capture how amazing it is to freely move around a 3D world.
Amazon's "Blockview"
The most powerful technology A9.com invented for Yellow Pages is "Block View," which brings the Yellow Pages to life by showing a street view of millions of businesses and their surroundings. Using trucks equipped with digital cameras, global positioning system (GPS) receivers, and proprietary software and hardware, A9.com drove tens of thousands of miles capturing images and matching them with businesses and the way they look from the street.
> "A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that,
> as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television
> evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616."
Why not take a look at the source itself?, which states:
One feature of particular interest is the number that this papyrus assigns to the Beast: 616, rather than the usual 666. (665 is also found.) We knew that this variant existed: Irenaeus cites (and refutes) it.
Irenaeus was born in AD 130 - 2 centuries before this papyrus. The 616 was dismissed as error even back then. Irenaeus writes:
1. Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end), I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one.
The number is 666 as Irenaeus testimony (itself based on those that knew John - the author of the Book of Revelation personally) and the vast majority of manuscripts attest. Perhaps the fact that this papyrus was found in an "ancient rubbish heap" means something.
:-) Gee, Thanks
Hmm, this (or similar functionality) could be used by cards (credit/debit/payment/etc.) that stored a set of secret codes on the card and used them to derive authorization information that was displayed in time-sychronised fashion (like the RSA SecurID hardware token)
For even lower power consumption, the clock could be dispensed with, and the card could just display authorization derived using the last unused key. Such a card could probably use solar cells for power as some calculators do today.
It could also display the transaction information required (key, cardholder details, etc) as a barcode that could be scanned for payment.
> 666 is a mistranslation. The number of the Beast (Caligula) is 616.
No, it's 666 and the "beast" and "false prophet" refer to future people.
Vendors involved in your user group's technology have a vested interest in it's success.
First, it's extremely useful if you prepare a neat 1-page PDF flier -- just a bit about your user group and how to join it.
Next, try contacting vendors in your local area - invite their staff to join (as long as they are genuine users of this technology). Also ask if their marketing people can pass on the flyer to interested customers.
Last but not least, encourage existing group members to pass on the flier or a link to your user group website to friends who may be interest in joining up.
My impression of Wikis are they're great for maintaining loosely-structured text, but not more structured data. So a question tangentially related to this topic:
Can wikis have components where one wiki page refer to 'slices' of another wiki page?
For example, the wikipedia.org pages on Uruguay and Paraguay are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguay
Each page has a table at top right on vital stats for each country. However, the tables on these pages seem maintained by hand and differ subtly - For eg: the table for Paraguay is missing an entry for "GDP", but the table for Paraguay contains.
It would be better for both tables to be 'slices' of a huge wiki table where vital stats of all countries were maintained... somewhat Aspect-Oriented-Programming-ish. Perhaps one wiki page could include in specific element/sub-elements from another page using named DIVs or XHTML? Do existing wikis support this?
In Communist China, the law breaks you.
> This article is very interesting... ad infinitum.
Slashdot editors repeat articles
On their website, despite 'em
Dupes repeat phrases, which the comments repeat,
And so it threads ad infinitum