And anyone who has watched the only episode of the American Red Dwarf has seen what a disaster the future will be if the Yanks are allowed to write comedy shows.
If you sit and drink alcohol solidly for five hours, your liver will turn to mush.
If you sit and watch cable news for five hours, your brain will turn to mush.
And quite frankly, if you've a mushed brain then scientific concepts are probably the last thing you'll ever be able to assimilate.
No, you're probably far better off just sat there on you fat backside cramming crisps and canned beer into your mouth while you are mnindlessly forcefed more celebrity gossip and the endless coverage of Paul McCartney's divorce settlement by Rupert Murdoch's minions...
Apple probably buys around 10 percent of all laptop chips that Intel produces, and mostly goes for the more expensive ones, so I would estimate about 20 percent of dollar revenue.
I notice you've tried to sneak in the adjective "laptop" in there. I think it would be erring on your side to suggest that no more than half the chips Intel produces are for laptops, the remaining being for desktop and servers. If your figures are correct (which I seriously doubt), then that puts Apple down to buying a maximum of 5% of Intels overall chip production. (Even then, whilst I accept there are possibly a higher proportion of Apple users in the US, that is not the case here in Europe where Apple's penetration for computers is very low.)
And they don't buy any of the $50 low end chips that end up in your $399 PC.
Except that you're now (presumably) talking about $399 PCs in general, not just laptops - I detect some serious massaging of figures now on your part.
However, if you're talking about $399 (or in my case £399) laptops, then I call BS on you. Sure, a lot of home users buy a cheap laptop as a second home machine but the biggest buyers of laptops are corporates who do not buy the cheapest machines. Therefore, by supposition, higher grade chips also go into Dell's, HP's, Lenovo's, etc. mid- to high- end laptops which, because there are more of those than there are Macs sold, puts Apple into a much smaller minority than you are claiming.
So please do not exaggerate the Mac's penetration (outside of the US at least) - there really are not that many of them about.
As I've said previously on Slashdot, having spent 25+ years as a technical person in telecomms and IT travelling quite regularly around Europe and parts of the Middle East, I have seen a total of 3 Mac machines ever - one was an American tutor on a course I did, one was a student posing in the local Starbucks with one, and a friend of mine has a surplus Mac given to him by his boss that he has no idea what to do with and is still in the box.
I've no idea where you personally are located but if you do happen to be in the UK then you'll already be fully aware that compared to the amount that was spent on the development of Concorde, there is already a hideous waste of our public taxes due to inefficiencies in just about every government-driven organisation - whether it's the health service, schools, roads, etc, not to mention the fact that 25% of all that money goes straight into the pension funds of civil servants.
So someone who is in the UK and concerned about taxes and public benefits should be looking at the much greater wastage of public money in those services - plus, if it was my decision, if a UK Member of Parliament can count decorating his house & buying a plasma TV as part of claimable expenses (as has recently been published in the press here), then I would haul them up before a judge for embezzlement of public money.
Yep, maybe when all the corruption rife amongst our public servants has been resolved, then I'd agree with you about not using money for technological gain only. However, it's small fry compared to MPs voting their own salary increases in and too many managers doing F*** all for their money in the health service and public sector generally.
The Concorde SST had massive government subsidies from both Britain and France and because of lack of demand still couldn't produce a decent return on investment Well, other than being a jobs program.
Occasionally it's just nice to see something was done purely as a technical achivement rather than putting a financial value on it - we British can be proud for inventing things like the jet engine and Concorde (with the French) just like the Yanks can be proud for getting the first man on the moon.
Sometimes it's nice to see the bean counters in suits being totally ignored and just seeing something done "because it's there".
If you're an admin tasked with security, you have to assume all users are evil
And if you're an admin tasked with security and worked for me, you have to assume you'd get my boot up your backside pretty damned regularly because of going around with that attitude.
Remember that time you asked that mechanic friend of yours for advice on fixing your car? Or the time you asked your dad to show you how to put a screw in the wall nice and firmly? Did either of them assume you were "evil" or stupid???
Get off your high horse, recognise that you also need other peoples' knowledge occasionally and learn a little about humility so that you can interact with others in a more reasonable fashion rather than stomping around your offices like some jackbooted dictator.
Are you one of the older people he was mentioning?
Yes, and very proud of it also. Even if I had the chance to "do it all again" I'd do it exactly the same way so I've no objection to the "youth" of today in general (hell, I even train a lot of them about TCP/IP, Linux and security), just the gobshite graduates that come out of university believing they know it all (just like I did) but need to be taken down a step or two and be dragged kicking and screaming into the real world.
Three years in university does not get anywhere close to a quarter of a century of experience.
an upcoming survey from Symantec and Applied Research-West
Has anyone considered the possibiity of a conspiracy theory here?
After all, anyone with a few years experience in the IT industry soon realises that Symantec products are bloated pieces of overpriced crap that do absolutely nothing apart from stealing CPU cycles and forcing you into a subscription program that is virtually impossible to leave.
Therefore, by furthering the cause of a younger generation of people into the IT industry, not only do they have a multitude of spotty oiks who only peer up from their mobile phones/iWanks into the real world for a maximum of five minutes per day, but also an entire generation of Apple/Nokia-worshipping zealots who can be easily subverted into worshipping another false god at the "Temple Of Norton" also?
Without wishing to generalise too much, I spend a lot of time over in Spain and deal with a lot of South Americans at work - yes, you Latinos probably have a heap less money than we Brits do but you seem a whole lot happier and content for it, in most cases anyway.
And whilst I agree with you about the benefits system in the UK is "easy", the fact is that there are several million British shirkers out there sat on their backsides in front of the TV all day spending their "dole" money on cigarettes and booze, never once considering getting a job and actually putting something back into the system.
That means that a lot of honest, hard-working people like me get stung by endless stealth taxes in order to pay for those lazy bastards because the fact is we're an easy target because we haven't got the guts to rise up and do anything about it.
I have nothing against immigrants to the UK (my father was one and I'm only half-English although born here) but where is the sense in a system that pays dole money to native citizens while hundreds of thousands of (mainly East European) migrants come here and fill up all of the empty jobs? And what really gets my back up are the loud-mouthed racist Brits who drone on about immigrants are usually *THE VERY SAME* people drawing dole money???
In my experience, you Latinos seem to be far more adept at just accepting things as being the way that they are and still just get on and have the best time possible....
...which is why I personally cannot wait to get pretty much fluent in Spanish, quit my job once and for all, leave this grey, rainy nanny-state of ours and spend the rest of my life somewhere warmer where people know how to enjoy themselves and *NOT* stab each other in the face with broken bottles...
Tax burdens have been moved down to lower incomes in the UK
Ahem! And just how many average 20-somethings are in the 40% tax bracket alongside "old fucks" like me?
That is why I turned my back on the entire industry
Oh, so not only that but you're also unemployed meaning you're directly leeching of my *HIGHER RATE* taxes also? I'll tell you what, how about going the "whole hog" and dropping a couple of malnourished screaming brats also so I can subsidise them through Child Benefit as well...
actully its spelt millennials becuz the 20-somethings have not discovered the shift key on there keybds yet nor punctuashun or how to spell props not to mention the mndlss abbrevn lol chat l8r
I would actually prefer the Fucked Generation, on account of (a) the out-of-control real estate market which came about as many of us were graduating from our four year universities, and (b) the fact that, as implemented, the Social Security program is going to dry up by the time we are ready to retire in the 2040s.
Not to mention the fact that if I live that long, in the 2040s at least one member of the Fucked Generation will probably be helping me wipe my ass...
As for me, born in 1962, it took me until the age of around 30 to stop acting like a "power-hungry little Hitler" around every one of my network users and to start working with them, helping them and educating them to the point where they actually respected me and appreciated any help I could give them, rather than whispering curses at me through gritted teeth behind my back.
Please do not think that your lack of years makes you different from anyone else. The fact is that at your age you're pretty much fresh out of college, possibly with a degree under your belt, and no doubt in possession of a belief that you know absolutely everything about everything.
As a "middle aged worker" who does pretty well at his job, then let me also, like you, generalise about the fact that I run into mealy-mouthed whippersnappers like you every day of my work life and your kind no longer scare me. Very soon you will realise that for the furtherance of your own career, you need to embrace and learn from the experience of older work colleagues - in other words, shut the f*** up, listen to your elders and betters and perhaps learn something about real-life.
Been there, done that and got the T-shirt which is now too tight for me due to my expanding waistline.
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I'm British and even I know St. Patrick's day was yesterday, not today.
And anyone who has watched the only episode of the American Red Dwarf has seen what a disaster the future will be if the Yanks are allowed to write comedy shows.
If you sit and watch cable news for five hours, your brain will turn to mush.
And quite frankly, if you've a mushed brain then scientific concepts are probably the last thing you'll ever be able to assimilate.
No, you're probably far better off just sat there on you fat backside cramming crisps and canned beer into your mouth while you are mnindlessly forcefed more celebrity gossip and the endless coverage of Paul McCartney's divorce settlement by Rupert Murdoch's minions...
I notice you've tried to sneak in the adjective "laptop" in there. I think it would be erring on your side to suggest that no more than half the chips Intel produces are for laptops, the remaining being for desktop and servers. If your figures are correct (which I seriously doubt), then that puts Apple down to buying a maximum of 5% of Intels overall chip production. (Even then, whilst I accept there are possibly a higher proportion of Apple users in the US, that is not the case here in Europe where Apple's penetration for computers is very low.)
And they don't buy any of the $50 low end chips that end up in your $399 PC.
Except that you're now (presumably) talking about $399 PCs in general, not just laptops - I detect some serious massaging of figures now on your part.
However, if you're talking about $399 (or in my case £399) laptops, then I call BS on you. Sure, a lot of home users buy a cheap laptop as a second home machine but the biggest buyers of laptops are corporates who do not buy the cheapest machines. Therefore, by supposition, higher grade chips also go into Dell's, HP's, Lenovo's, etc. mid- to high- end laptops which, because there are more of those than there are Macs sold, puts Apple into a much smaller minority than you are claiming.
So please do not exaggerate the Mac's penetration (outside of the US at least) - there really are not that many of them about. As I've said previously on Slashdot, having spent 25+ years as a technical person in telecomms and IT travelling quite regularly around Europe and parts of the Middle East, I have seen a total of 3 Mac machines ever - one was an American tutor on a course I did, one was a student posing in the local Starbucks with one, and a friend of mine has a surplus Mac given to him by his boss that he has no idea what to do with and is still in the box.
So someone who is in the UK and concerned about taxes and public benefits should be looking at the much greater wastage of public money in those services - plus, if it was my decision, if a UK Member of Parliament can count decorating his house & buying a plasma TV as part of claimable expenses (as has recently been published in the press here), then I would haul them up before a judge for embezzlement of public money.
Yep, maybe when all the corruption rife amongst our public servants has been resolved, then I'd agree with you about not using money for technological gain only. However, it's small fry compared to MPs voting their own salary increases in and too many managers doing F*** all for their money in the health service and public sector generally.
Oh wait ...
Damn! So no more convincing myself that I only ***look*** like a fat bastard in the mirror due to its imperfections.
Compare the amount of Mac sales to the amount of PC sales and if Apple moved over to AMD, I doubt Intel would give a second glance either.
Occasionally it's just nice to see something was done purely as a technical achivement rather than putting a financial value on it - we British can be proud for inventing things like the jet engine and Concorde (with the French) just like the Yanks can be proud for getting the first man on the moon.
Sometimes it's nice to see the bean counters in suits being totally ignored and just seeing something done "because it's there".
And if you're an admin tasked with security and worked for me, you have to assume you'd get my boot up your backside pretty damned regularly because of going around with that attitude.
Remember that time you asked that mechanic friend of yours for advice on fixing your car? Or the time you asked your dad to show you how to put a screw in the wall nice and firmly? Did either of them assume you were "evil" or stupid???
Get off your high horse, recognise that you also need other peoples' knowledge occasionally and learn a little about humility so that you can interact with others in a more reasonable fashion rather than stomping around your offices like some jackbooted dictator.
Or girlfriend.
Your sig is redundant... anyone who starts a post with "dude" and a total lac of capitalisation must be a Mac owner... it's the LAW!!!
Yes, and very proud of it also. Even if I had the chance to "do it all again" I'd do it exactly the same way so I've no objection to the "youth" of today in general (hell, I even train a lot of them about TCP/IP, Linux and security), just the gobshite graduates that come out of university believing they know it all (just like I did) but need to be taken down a step or two and be dragged kicking and screaming into the real world.
Three years in university does not get anywhere close to a quarter of a century of experience.
Not very many according to the stats
contadicts the original poster's statement:
Tax burdens have been moved down to lower incomes in the UK
which wins me the argument. But then, I am older, a lot wiser, and higher tax payer than you.
But don't let facts stand in the way of your hysterical right-wing rants.
Well, let's face it, the so called left-wing / middle-ground politicians are totally botching up this country so maybe it's time for a change.
Has anyone considered the possibiity of a conspiracy theory here?
After all, anyone with a few years experience in the IT industry soon realises that Symantec products are bloated pieces of overpriced crap that do absolutely nothing apart from stealing CPU cycles and forcing you into a subscription program that is virtually impossible to leave.
Therefore, by furthering the cause of a younger generation of people into the IT industry, not only do they have a multitude of spotty oiks who only peer up from their mobile phones/iWanks into the real world for a maximum of five minutes per day, but also an entire generation of Apple/Nokia-worshipping zealots who can be easily subverted into worshipping another false god at the "Temple Of Norton" also?
And whilst I agree with you about the benefits system in the UK is "easy", the fact is that there are several million British shirkers out there sat on their backsides in front of the TV all day spending their "dole" money on cigarettes and booze, never once considering getting a job and actually putting something back into the system.
That means that a lot of honest, hard-working people like me get stung by endless stealth taxes in order to pay for those lazy bastards because the fact is we're an easy target because we haven't got the guts to rise up and do anything about it.
I have nothing against immigrants to the UK (my father was one and I'm only half-English although born here) but where is the sense in a system that pays dole money to native citizens while hundreds of thousands of (mainly East European) migrants come here and fill up all of the empty jobs? And what really gets my back up are the loud-mouthed racist Brits who drone on about immigrants are usually *THE VERY SAME* people drawing dole money???
In my experience, you Latinos seem to be far more adept at just accepting things as being the way that they are and still just get on and have the best time possible....
Ahem! And just how many average 20-somethings are in the 40% tax bracket alongside "old fucks" like me?
That is why I turned my back on the entire industry
Oh, so not only that but you're also unemployed meaning you're directly leeching of my *HIGHER RATE* taxes also? I'll tell you what, how about going the "whole hog" and dropping a couple of malnourished screaming brats also so I can subsidise them through Child Benefit as well...
Just carrying an iPhone deserves a good kicking and confiscation of your designer coffee table and African tribal ornaments...
...your music totally SUCKS also!
actully its spelt millennials becuz the 20-somethings have not discovered the shift key on there keybds yet nor punctuashun or how to spell props not to mention the mndlss abbrevn lol chat l8r
But you forgot to mention that we "fourty somethings" are still listening to "Sgt. Peppers" while they've only got Creed and Nickelback...
Not to mention the fact that if I live that long, in the 2040s at least one member of the Fucked Generation will probably be helping me wipe my ass...
And in the words of Denis Leary "Life sucks, get used to it".
He'll probably need some nice warm milk with his cookie and have you tuck him in also.
Please do not think that your lack of years makes you different from anyone else. The fact is that at your age you're pretty much fresh out of college, possibly with a degree under your belt, and no doubt in possession of a belief that you know absolutely everything about everything.
As a "middle aged worker" who does pretty well at his job, then let me also, like you, generalise about the fact that I run into mealy-mouthed whippersnappers like you every day of my work life and your kind no longer scare me. Very soon you will realise that for the furtherance of your own career, you need to embrace and learn from the experience of older work colleagues - in other words, shut the f*** up, listen to your elders and betters and perhaps learn something about real-life.
Been there, done that and got the T-shirt which is now too tight for me due to my expanding waistline.