I don't want to belabor the point - the issue I was bringing up was about using tax-payer funded giveaways to buy votes, not about disparities in health coverage.
The links you found are opinions of pundits (that use inflammatory rhetoric because it generates viewership), and a 10-year-old article about coverage. If you looked that far you are bound to have discovered that my statement of fact was completely true - coverage of ED medication is mostly gone, and was dropped from public funded plans 6 years ago.
Yet you still decided to post a rebuttal knowing that I am right about that fact. Then you have the audacity to call me a troll !! Priceless.
You really want to go there? Because Viagra coverage has been dropped pretty much all over. Not that there was anyone demanding government intervention to force anyone to cover it, anyway.
Besides, it's not me promoting it. It's the Democratic party itself. Just happens to be the most current form of vote-buying going on.
Not really. It makes for a good talking point, but it's much subtler than that. PolitiFact as a pretty good analysis.
The impression is that some ideology is the driver, when that's demonstrably untrue, given a thorough view of the survey results. But Fox News has by far the highest viewership of the cable news channels (in key demographics, they have a higher viewership than all other cable news channels combined). They also have pretty anchors that wear short skirts, and they keep things moving along to retain the interest of those with even the shortest of attention spans.
I despise the bias of the reporting on Fox News as much as anyone, but these surveys say more about the viewership and entertainment value of mainstream media than the efficacy of information from any particular source.
It took time to work out that he could be convicted, this is normal procedure, liek the prosecutor said "we don't prosecute by petition" and that's hwo we want it.
But this time, they did. This prosecution occurred for no other reason than the protests and petitions. Period. For the prosecutor to claim otherwise is a bald-faced lie.
Meanwhile, the surveys always show it's the Fox News viewers who are the most misinformed.
Actually, the most recent surveys show MSNBC viewers are just as misinformed on many issues, while the best informed are people who watch Sunday morning talk shows and listen talk radio.
Not to mention many of those surveys reach conclusions based on a completely biased view of what "opinions" people should have. Seriously, check out the details in those "surveys" for once. They are not based on what facts people may know, but whether or not they hold some prevailing opinion. For instance, one survey asked "Do you think now that the American economy is (a) starting to recover, or (b) still getting worse?" and based the "correct" answer -- that the economy has begun to recover -- on the widely accepted judgment of when the last recession ended, as well as gross domestic product estimates and statistics for personal income. But those premises weren't presented as part of the questioning.
You are obviously completely ignorant about the involvement of the Federal government's taxation system. I tried to use a simplistic example and it still went over your head - you're convinced that taxes, spending, and the costs of energy and housing are somehow completely unrelated. Sorry, but that is simply not the case.
This is the problem with the US political system. Idiots like you get to vote, and go pull the lever for the guy that says "Hey, you get free birth control", without a clue to the consequences to the overall economy when political influence counts for more than a people's abilities and ethics.
I'm fine with, too, but that's a more appropriate response to a voluntary contribution, not a mandatory one. Is it more important that your neighborhood have a public library or that your family have heat in the winter? How about your children? Your grandchildren? What if the library on the corner was built and funded based on a monetary system that eventually meant that your grandchildren would work under involuntary servitude for a totalitarian regime, because they loaned your government the money for the library?
And what do you think would be a better use of $ 80 billion - fusion power, or so many more months of spending on our bloated Department of Defense ?
Crazy idea, I know, but maybe a better use would be to leave it with the people who earned it?
Yes, that's crazy! Plus, it lacks compassion - we need investment money for the truly compassionate. You know, like federal bureaucracies always are.
Also, the way I've heard it, we already tried that free market approach and it didn't work. So, now, we need stuff like the Jimmy Buffet rules, for better fairness, because wealthy basketball players shouldn't be paying a lower rate on their earnings than Secretariat.
So I guess in climate science, if 25% of your prediction is 30% off, that's "spot-on". Sounds like if the quantities are not ambiguous, the criteria for judging the accuracy of them certainly is.
How about they just pass a rule that says no government agency or agent of government can do this, because despite the hype over this issues, it's really just governments, police departments, and schools that have been caught doing it. But, of course, that doesn't fit the Progressive and Mainstream media's agenda ("companies BAD, government GOOD").
I'd be curious if any big companies are doing this. This seems like the kind of thing a small shop would do. It seems legally dubious enough that big companies would fear lawsuits.
Well the Virginia State Police is not a company at all, but they are a pretty large employer. They don't ask you to turn over your passwords, but they do require you to log into your account so they can check out your postings. In fact, from what I have seen, it appears that most of the organizations doing this are government organizations like police departments and government agencies.
So this whole thing is misguided, as they are targeting private companies for the restriction, when in fact all of the examples of employers do this that I have seen are actually government bureaucrats themselves, which of course are always exempted.
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Oh, wow, so they're still recognizing right mouse clicks? They should just go ahead and deprecate that and just do mono-button for all mice. Nobody needs more than one mouse button...
I haven't encountered any major issues with xfce, although it does have some idiosyncrasies. Still much better than dealing with Gnome 3. At least with xfce I can actually get some work done.
I hadn't heard about Mate before...
Hello everyone.
I've made a GNOME2 fork. I've called it "Mate".
My english is not so good. And so, maybe I can not give support in English.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Any suggestion is welcome.
Yea, okay, looks like a dead-end. I'm sticking with xfce. Those guys should, too. It will probably be easier to do what they want with that base instead of the Gnome 2 base
This is great news! Gnome 3 is certainly surpassing Windows 8 now. If only they could implement all that "log in with your web account" stuff like Windows 8 does, it will be awesome!
Obviously, you're not familiar with the pharma industry, and have never been visited by a pharma rep or attended any of their hot mess parties.
Of course lets not forget advertising as news, pure propaganda players like Fox not-News that continually run pretend interviews that are actually political adds for favoured politicians or conversely attack pieces that are even more blatant political adds.
That's not isolated - it's 99% of all media. Even MacNeil/Lehrer has been 100% scripted for years.
The idea that the MPAA and the RIAA are heading these efforts is really just a distraction. Total revenues of the entire global music industry is somewhere around $30 billion. The total movie industry revenue is higher, at about $87 billion. It's a lot of money, but look at what these bills are doing in detail. Every single one is also designed to limit the consumer market for generic medications and especially to limit (that is, abolish) the ability of US consumers to obtain prescription drugs from non-US sources.
Pfizer, a single pharmaceutical company, made $68 billion in revenue by themselves in 2006. They made almost $11 billion in a single year on Lipitor, one of their best sellers. Just the top 3 pharmaceutical companies made twice the revenue of the entire music and movie industries combined.
So it's not as big a deal to the mainstream that kids on their parents computers get blocked from downloading the latest from Lady Gaga or obtaining pirate copies of the Hunger Games before it hits DVD. What they don't realize is that these efforts will also greatly benefit the drug industry to the detriment of the American public and the total cost of health care.
The drug companies are about to lose major revenues due to expiring patents on their biggest money-makers. And without new drugs coming out, they want to protect that revenue. Their efforts include not only blocking sales from non-US retailers and tightening the regulatory screws on generic, but in fact are attempting to ban the sales of as many generic drugs as they can. Working with the FDA as their proxy, they have recently managed to ban hundreds of generic drugs from the market, many of which have been sold for decades. They have also gotten tri-care to eliminate a number of generics from their approved medications, requiring patients to use much more expensive brand-name medications instead.
If people knew what the real result that these bills would have, in terms of medications and drug costs, you would see a lot more outrage. That's why they keep claiming it's about music and movie piracy. In fact it's about IP in general, including drug company patents, and that's where the big money pushing for this stuff is really coming from.
Fusion reactors generate enormous amounts of grant funding, which correlate only weakly with practical progress. Making a reactor casing that can withstand the auditor scrutiny and collect the justification for useful purposes (solving problems, usable technology, publishable documentation, etc.) for long term funding is extremely hard. This is expected to be the ultimate limit to wasting resources on fusion ideas that can never work. I don't have a citable source, but I got this from a hearing on CSPAN by the guys in charge of funding for the ITER project.
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My main point was how you started with an argument against funding fusion research,
I completely missed this one - you actually stated my opinion as the opposite of the one I posted. Kudos for that one, I just about let it slide.
I don't want to belabor the point - the issue I was bringing up was about using tax-payer funded giveaways to buy votes, not about disparities in health coverage.
The links you found are opinions of pundits (that use inflammatory rhetoric because it generates viewership), and a 10-year-old article about coverage. If you looked that far you are bound to have discovered that my statement of fact was completely true - coverage of ED medication is mostly gone, and was dropped from public funded plans 6 years ago.
Yet you still decided to post a rebuttal knowing that I am right about that fact. Then you have the audacity to call me a troll !! Priceless.
You really want to go there? Because Viagra coverage has been dropped pretty much all over. Not that there was anyone demanding government intervention to force anyone to cover it, anyway.
Besides, it's not me promoting it. It's the Democratic party itself. Just happens to be the most current form of vote-buying going on.
Not really. It makes for a good talking point, but it's much subtler than that. PolitiFact as a pretty good analysis.
The impression is that some ideology is the driver, when that's demonstrably untrue, given a thorough view of the survey results. But Fox News has by far the highest viewership of the cable news channels (in key demographics, they have a higher viewership than all other cable news channels combined). They also have pretty anchors that wear short skirts, and they keep things moving along to retain the interest of those with even the shortest of attention spans.
I despise the bias of the reporting on Fox News as much as anyone, but these surveys say more about the viewership and entertainment value of mainstream media than the efficacy of information from any particular source.
It took time to work out that he could be convicted, this is normal procedure, liek the prosecutor said "we don't prosecute by petition" and that's hwo we want it.
But this time, they did. This prosecution occurred for no other reason than the protests and petitions. Period. For the prosecutor to claim otherwise is a bald-faced lie.
Meanwhile, the surveys always show it's the Fox News viewers who are the most misinformed.
Actually, the most recent surveys show MSNBC viewers are just as misinformed on many issues, while the best informed are people who watch Sunday morning talk shows and listen talk radio.
Not to mention many of those surveys reach conclusions based on a completely biased view of what "opinions" people should have. Seriously, check out the details in those "surveys" for once. They are not based on what facts people may know, but whether or not they hold some prevailing opinion. For instance, one survey asked "Do you think now that the American economy is (a) starting to recover, or (b) still getting worse?" and based the "correct" answer -- that the economy has begun to recover -- on the widely accepted judgment of when the last recession ended, as well as gross domestic product estimates and statistics for personal income. But those premises weren't presented as part of the questioning.
You are obviously completely ignorant about the involvement of the Federal government's taxation system. I tried to use a simplistic example and it still went over your head - you're convinced that taxes, spending, and the costs of energy and housing are somehow completely unrelated. Sorry, but that is simply not the case.
This is the problem with the US political system. Idiots like you get to vote, and go pull the lever for the guy that says "Hey, you get free birth control", without a clue to the consequences to the overall economy when political influence counts for more than a people's abilities and ethics.
You could fully fund it by eliminating the US Dept. of Ed.
Plus... you actually get something in return.
I'm fine with, too, but that's a more appropriate response to a voluntary contribution, not a mandatory one. Is it more important that your neighborhood have a public library or that your family have heat in the winter? How about your children? Your grandchildren? What if the library on the corner was built and funded based on a monetary system that eventually meant that your grandchildren would work under involuntary servitude for a totalitarian regime, because they loaned your government the money for the library?
And what do you think would be a better use of $ 80 billion - fusion power, or so many more months of spending on our bloated Department of Defense ?
Crazy idea, I know, but maybe a better use would be to leave it with the people who earned it?
Yes, that's crazy! Plus, it lacks compassion - we need investment money for the truly compassionate. You know, like federal bureaucracies always are.
Also, the way I've heard it, we already tried that free market approach and it didn't work. So, now, we need stuff like the Jimmy Buffet rules, for better fairness, because wealthy basketball players shouldn't be paying a lower rate on their earnings than Secretariat.
Nah, they're just installing the smart meters so they can jack up everyone's electric bill, and then just claim "Well these are more accurate, it just means you were being undercharged before!".
So I guess in climate science, if 25% of your prediction is 30% off, that's "spot-on". Sounds like if the quantities are not ambiguous, the criteria for judging the accuracy of them certainly is.
Why, of course, this is remarkable. We have a prediction of temperature, and 25% of the prediction is only 30% off.
"Spot-on"
Good thing these guys aren't using their "spot-on" predictive powers to tell people where to put their money.
I flagged your comment as "unreal"
I flagged your comment as inappropriate.
Wouldn't it be easier just to fix your goddamn code?
How about they just pass a rule that says no government agency or agent of government can do this, because despite the hype over this issues, it's really just governments, police departments, and schools that have been caught doing it. But, of course, that doesn't fit the Progressive and Mainstream media's agenda ("companies BAD, government GOOD").
I'd be curious if any big companies are doing this. This seems like the kind of thing a small shop would do. It seems legally dubious enough that big companies would fear lawsuits.
Well the Virginia State Police is not a company at all, but they are a pretty large employer. They don't ask you to turn over your passwords, but they do require you to log into your account so they can check out your postings. In fact, from what I have seen, it appears that most of the organizations doing this are government organizations like police departments and government agencies.
So this whole thing is misguided, as they are targeting private companies for the restriction, when in fact all of the examples of employers do this that I have seen are actually government bureaucrats themselves, which of course are always exempted.
But I was Feeling Lucky (tm)!!
Oh, wow, so they're still recognizing right mouse clicks? They should just go ahead and deprecate that and just do mono-button for all mice. Nobody needs more than one mouse button...
I haven't encountered any major issues with xfce, although it does have some idiosyncrasies. Still much better than dealing with Gnome 3. At least with xfce I can actually get some work done.
I hadn't heard about Mate before...
Yea, okay, looks like a dead-end. I'm sticking with xfce. Those guys should, too. It will probably be easier to do what they want with that base instead of the Gnome 2 base
This is great news! Gnome 3 is certainly surpassing Windows 8 now. If only they could implement all that "log in with your web account" stuff like Windows 8 does, it will be awesome!
For my tablet.
Obviously, you're not familiar with the pharma industry, and have never been visited by a pharma rep or attended any of their hot mess parties.
Of course lets not forget advertising as news, pure propaganda players like Fox not-News that continually run pretend interviews that are actually political adds for favoured politicians or conversely attack pieces that are even more blatant political adds.
That's not isolated - it's 99% of all media. Even MacNeil/Lehrer has been 100% scripted for years.
The idea that the MPAA and the RIAA are heading these efforts is really just a distraction. Total revenues of the entire global music industry is somewhere around $30 billion. The total movie industry revenue is higher, at about $87 billion. It's a lot of money, but look at what these bills are doing in detail. Every single one is also designed to limit the consumer market for generic medications and especially to limit (that is, abolish) the ability of US consumers to obtain prescription drugs from non-US sources.
Pfizer, a single pharmaceutical company, made $68 billion in revenue by themselves in 2006. They made almost $11 billion in a single year on Lipitor, one of their best sellers. Just the top 3 pharmaceutical companies made twice the revenue of the entire music and movie industries combined.
So it's not as big a deal to the mainstream that kids on their parents computers get blocked from downloading the latest from Lady Gaga or obtaining pirate copies of the Hunger Games before it hits DVD. What they don't realize is that these efforts will also greatly benefit the drug industry to the detriment of the American public and the total cost of health care.
The drug companies are about to lose major revenues due to expiring patents on their biggest money-makers. And without new drugs coming out, they want to protect that revenue. Their efforts include not only blocking sales from non-US retailers and tightening the regulatory screws on generic, but in fact are attempting to ban the sales of as many generic drugs as they can. Working with the FDA as their proxy, they have recently managed to ban hundreds of generic drugs from the market, many of which have been sold for decades. They have also gotten tri-care to eliminate a number of generics from their approved medications, requiring patients to use much more expensive brand-name medications instead.
If people knew what the real result that these bills would have, in terms of medications and drug costs, you would see a lot more outrage. That's why they keep claiming it's about music and movie piracy. In fact it's about IP in general, including drug company patents, and that's where the big money pushing for this stuff is really coming from.
Fusion reactors generate enormous amounts of grant funding, which correlate only weakly with practical progress. Making a reactor casing that can withstand the auditor scrutiny and collect the justification for useful purposes (solving problems, usable technology, publishable documentation, etc.) for long term funding is extremely hard. This is expected to be the ultimate limit to wasting resources on fusion ideas that can never work. I don't have a citable source, but I got this from a hearing on CSPAN by the guys in charge of funding for the ITER project.