Not sure what point you're trying to make here, or how it makes my statement "moronic". You seemed to be responding to the OP with the claim that the Nazis must not be Socialists simply because "The industrialists still got rich under the Nazi government", which is no argument at all, because that's happened under EVERY Socialist government before or sense (even if most of the "industrialists" these days are mostly into banking and finance).
And Hitler continued to use the Socialist rhetoric for years after he was installed as Chancellor. Which of those policies he may have ended or changed, I really don't know.
Yes, I noticed that. I also noticed that they are lobbying against any fair trade barriers in response to China's dumping of solar panels at or below cost, attempting to corner the market. Normally, I'm an advocate of free trade and markets, but I'm as opposed to China's government intervening in the market as much as I am against the US government doing it. And in this case, I see nothing but harm in allowing China to take over most of the manufacturing like they've done with shoes and toys and innumerable other things. This one's a little too important - I'll vote with my wallet this time.
... or batteries, or capacitors, or wiring and controllers, or power inverters and shunts, etc.,... Not that I'm seriously shopping that stuff, my house is in the middle of a forest and solar panels there would be a complete waste of money.
My interest is not so much large house systems like that, but small, autonomous power stations that can run wireless repeaters on poles and rooftops. You know, for when next year's solar flares take out a lot of communications satellites.
It was a joke, but it wouldn't be funny if there wasn't some truth to it. I don't blame the teachers, though, I blame the public school system, its anti-competitive practices, and the Federal Department of Education.
Well US refineries are cleaner than refineries in the rest of the world, due to compliance with EPA emission regulations. If it's getting refined (and it will), I'd prefer it be done where it causes the least pollution, and that's the US.
Right, but you forgot about the cut the government takes for itself. Running Washington is expensive - who knows how much that $50 subsidy would actually cost.
After some more research, I actually found some a little closer to the $1 per watt mark. CivicSolar has large panels running around $1.30 per watt. They have laminates, too, but for about twice the cost.
...but the US has been a net exporter of oil now for about 6-8 months, yes, net-exporter of oil
Ummm... no. You've confused crude oil with refined gasoline. The US is still a major net-importer of crude oil, but, yes, it's exporting quite a bit of refined gasoline now.
So where are these elusive $1.00/watt solar panels? Is it only wholesale prices? Mass quantities? Everything I'm finding is still $3 - $4 per watt, and yes, that's just for panels.
Don't most job descriptions have a little clause something like "other duties as assigned"? So he's sitting around doing nothing on "down time", then takes on some "other duties" on his own off hours and expects extra compensation for it?
Secularism was basically invented by John Locke, who had a profound influence on the Founding Fathers. All this nonsense about accusing secularists and scientists (who are not the same thing at all) is pure bullshit. I suspect you know that, but because you have an ax to grind against a certain group of scientists, the best way to attack them is to invent lies about them, to make them look as biased and compromised as you are.
I'm not accusing scientists of anything. Secularists, either. Not sure if John Locke really invented secularism, but his influence is how the US was founded with such a profound respect for individual liberty, so you're right there. I am proud to live in a place where all religions are respected and the freedom to practice (or not) is so well tolerated. It works great until one group or another thinks their religion should be established and enforced by the government.
There may be some scientists willing to use the Gaiaist agenda to maintain their livelihood, but that's small potatoes compared to the amount of resources the Gaiaists are stealing and wasting to implement their ideological agenda.
Now this is probably the most honest answer I have seen about climate change.
The thing is, there is real question about how true it is. We don't need to stop driving cars, we just need to switch to electric vehicles and then upgrade our powerplants.
This will raise the cost per mile and raise the cost of electricity, but it should be enough of a fix to let the planet recover.
I'm afraid it's much more complicated than that. Commuter driving isn't even a significant factor, primarily it's coal power and freight transportation. I haven't seen even any proposals for non-diesel tractor trailers, and if they stopped running people in urban areas would be going hungry in about two weeks.
Yep, I think you nailed it. Balancing the budget is a much easier task than taking on climate change, and not only is it practically impossible for our current politicians, there are almost none with any serious proposals that deal with it.
This book is clearly proof of a huge conspiracy by high school science teachers. By pretending science should be important, they hope to keep their jobs and to be able to garner higher wages.
Won't that backfire on them, when the money is used to hire people that can actually teach science?
As opposed to to taking a trillion dollars from the "poor" people to pay for the Iraqi oil war, which benefits the "rich" people. Forced wealth distribution in the stupid direction.
That's been US foreign policy for at least 50 years: Taking money from poor people in the US and giving it to rich people in poor countries. "Solutions" to ACC simply accelerate it.
Mankind directly affects the climate, and we KNOW this - we can see the Ozone hole above the poles. It was directly created by aerospray cans we created.
Anyone who tells you that dealing with climate change requires a "total overhaul of our economic system" is a liar. If you tell other people that, you become a liar. You don't want to be a liar, do you?
You might want to read TFA:
Climate change is a great example, because the problem is so enormous and the implications mean restructuring our economy and our energy supply system.
-- Shawn Lawrence Otto, author of the book Fool Me Twice: Fighting the Assault on Science in America
Fact: The climate has perpetually changed from the beginning of the Earth until present. Fact: The climate will continue to change until the end of time.
What exactly are politicians supposed to do about something out of our control?
You can't quote those kinds of facts around here. Heretic.
The President is only a small part of the Federal government, and a very small part of the governing bodies of the US. But somehow some people think all you can do is go to the polls once every four years to pick the next dictator. No wonder voter turnout is so low in the rest of the elections.
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Not sure what point you're trying to make here, or how it makes my statement "moronic". You seemed to be responding to the OP with the claim that the Nazis must not be Socialists simply because "The industrialists still got rich under the Nazi government", which is no argument at all, because that's happened under EVERY Socialist government before or sense (even if most of the "industrialists" these days are mostly into banking and finance).
And Hitler continued to use the Socialist rhetoric for years after he was installed as Chancellor. Which of those policies he may have ended or changed, I really don't know.
Yes, I noticed that. I also noticed that they are lobbying against any fair trade barriers in response to China's dumping of solar panels at or below cost, attempting to corner the market. Normally, I'm an advocate of free trade and markets, but I'm as opposed to China's government intervening in the market as much as I am against the US government doing it. And in this case, I see nothing but harm in allowing China to take over most of the manufacturing like they've done with shoes and toys and innumerable other things. This one's a little too important - I'll vote with my wallet this time.
According to a lawsuit filed by Kindle accessory maker M-Edge, Amazon is a threatening, deceitful, and interfering big brother figure.
What!?!? It can't be! I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!
Because there are no rich industrialists in Communist Chiner, right? Or in "Socialist" Sweden either, right?
Actually, I already helped pay for those.
... or batteries, or capacitors, or wiring and controllers, or power inverters and shunts, etc., ... Not that I'm seriously shopping that stuff, my house is in the middle of a forest and solar panels there would be a complete waste of money.
My interest is not so much large house systems like that, but small, autonomous power stations that can run wireless repeaters on poles and rooftops. You know, for when next year's solar flares take out a lot of communications satellites.
"Restructuring our economy" and "total overhaul" are not synonyms.
They are in this context. Unless you think you can provide some quantitative comparison.
It was a joke, but it wouldn't be funny if there wasn't some truth to it. I don't blame the teachers, though, I blame the public school system, its anti-competitive practices, and the Federal Department of Education.
Well US refineries are cleaner than refineries in the rest of the world, due to compliance with EPA emission regulations. If it's getting refined (and it will), I'd prefer it be done where it causes the least pollution, and that's the US.
Right, but you forgot about the cut the government takes for itself. Running Washington is expensive - who knows how much that $50 subsidy would actually cost.
After some more research, I actually found some a little closer to the $1 per watt mark. CivicSolar has large panels running around $1.30 per watt. They have laminates, too, but for about twice the cost.
...but the US has been a net exporter of oil now for about 6-8 months, yes, net-exporter of oil
Ummm... no. You've confused crude oil with refined gasoline. The US is still a major net-importer of crude oil, but, yes, it's exporting quite a bit of refined gasoline now.
The USPS truck that comes through my neighborhood runs on natural gas. I've seen some UPS trucks using it, too.
So where are these elusive $1.00/watt solar panels? Is it only wholesale prices? Mass quantities? Everything I'm finding is still $3 - $4 per watt, and yes, that's just for panels.
It was the very visible hand of government intervention that got them in trouble in the first place.
Don't most job descriptions have a little clause something like "other duties as assigned"? So he's sitting around doing nothing on "down time", then takes on some "other duties" on his own off hours and expects extra compensation for it?
Secularism was basically invented by John Locke, who had a profound influence on the Founding Fathers. All this nonsense about accusing secularists and scientists (who are not the same thing at all) is pure bullshit. I suspect you know that, but because you have an ax to grind against a certain group of scientists, the best way to attack them is to invent lies about them, to make them look as biased and compromised as you are.
I'm not accusing scientists of anything. Secularists, either. Not sure if John Locke really invented secularism, but his influence is how the US was founded with such a profound respect for individual liberty, so you're right there. I am proud to live in a place where all religions are respected and the freedom to practice (or not) is so well tolerated. It works great until one group or another thinks their religion should be established and enforced by the government.
There may be some scientists willing to use the Gaiaist agenda to maintain their livelihood, but that's small potatoes compared to the amount of resources the Gaiaists are stealing and wasting to implement their ideological agenda.
Now this is probably the most honest answer I have seen about climate change.
The thing is, there is real question about how true it is. We don't need to stop driving cars, we just need to switch to electric vehicles and then upgrade our powerplants.
This will raise the cost per mile and raise the cost of electricity, but it should be enough of a fix to let the planet recover.
I'm afraid it's much more complicated than that. Commuter driving isn't even a significant factor, primarily it's coal power and freight transportation. I haven't seen even any proposals for non-diesel tractor trailers, and if they stopped running people in urban areas would be going hungry in about two weeks.
Yep, I think you nailed it. Balancing the budget is a much easier task than taking on climate change, and not only is it practically impossible for our current politicians, there are almost none with any serious proposals that deal with it.
This book is clearly proof of a huge conspiracy by high school science teachers. By pretending science should be important, they hope to keep their jobs and to be able to garner higher wages.
Won't that backfire on them, when the money is used to hire people that can actually teach science?
As opposed to to taking a trillion dollars from the "poor" people to pay for the Iraqi oil war, which benefits the "rich" people. Forced wealth distribution in the stupid direction.
That's been US foreign policy for at least 50 years: Taking money from poor people in the US and giving it to rich people in poor countries. "Solutions" to ACC simply accelerate it.
Mankind directly affects the climate, and we KNOW this - we can see the Ozone hole above the poles. It was directly created by aerospray cans we created.
I thought it was created by people with asthma
Anyone who tells you that dealing with climate change requires a "total overhaul of our economic system" is a liar. If you tell other people that, you become a liar. You don't want to be a liar, do you?
You might want to read TFA:
-- Shawn Lawrence Otto, author of the book Fool Me Twice: Fighting the Assault on Science in America
Fact: The climate has perpetually changed from the beginning of the Earth until present. Fact: The climate will continue to change until the end of time.
What exactly are politicians supposed to do about something out of our control?
You can't quote those kinds of facts around here. Heretic.
Voter turnout is ~60%. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections
The President is only a small part of the Federal government, and a very small part of the governing bodies of the US. But somehow some people think all you can do is go to the polls once every four years to pick the next dictator. No wonder voter turnout is so low in the rest of the elections.