Small wonder big media, via the representatives they own in Washington continue to wage war against public broadcasting. Not satisfied with 90% of the market, they want that last morsel, too.
Not sure why they would care. NPR is compromised and caters to their corporate sponsors just as much as the rest of the main stream media. They've even started inserting ads in the middle of their stories, just like the other stations. The only real difference is that the Federal government is also a sponsor, so they have to cater to them, too.
Yes because having to move them a few meters, so they are off government owned property, before you re-erect them is such a oppressive requirement!!
It's a prohibition on the free exercise of religion. How come Christians are the only ones that are asked to suffer this unconstitutional prohibition on their free exercise? It's unconscionable that any religion has to constantly fight for their rights to be free from government prohibitions. What good is that protection in the bill of rights when it's so often ignored?
That sounds nice and conservative, but while we all personally hate taxes, this it just government picking winners and losers and thereby encouraging certain behavior. Deductions for "green energy" and "space burial" are both overreaches of government.
Yea, I have to agree with that. I had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the claim that somehow this was supporting an "oppressive corporation". But you're right that this just amounts to more government intervention in what should be a free market.
If they're going to be coming up with new deductions and credits, I'd much prefer they get behind something like the Universal tuition tax credit than this "space burial" idea.
How about if someone wants something, they pay for it? I know it is a crazy, radical, outlandish, insane idea but we may want to give it a go. If you want to donate your money to the infant staged private space industry then more power to you. Why do you have to put a gun to my head and force me to give to it?
Agreed, it's the way it should be. But then someone comes along and wants to build a public library and thinks it's okay to put a gun to my head for that. And it's not just a tax deduction for the people building it - they want to do it all with confiscated money.
You are defending social parasites. When people or corporations use publicly funded resources and don't pay a fair share, they are freeloaders. It is a form of stealing. It is no different then putting enough money in a newspaper vending machine to open it and then taking multiple copies, or going into a field and stealing produce. Your are getting something for nothing and the burden falls on those who do pay what they owe.
Note that I didn't "defend" anything, other than reducing taxes in general. And what you have said you can also say about food stamp recipients, people who qualify for AFDC, and home owners that take a mortgage interest deduction. In fact there are thousands and thousands of state and federal tax deductions for all kinds of activities. I'm assuming you put Michael Moore in the same category, for taking a refundable tax credit from Michigan for filming there?
I agree with you though that people like Al Gore and GE are major freeloaders. It's a major problem with the tax code - lots of complicated code and credits and deductions going to wealthy people and businesses. Guess who is promoting major tax reform to simplify the tax code? No one. Financial tyranny is simply too useful a tool for the corporate/government elitist oligarchy.
You realize that no one is really suggesting anything like this at all
You are a fool if you really think that's true.
And, as I pointed out, the idea that government should be able to confiscate more wealth because there are people in need is how they get people to go along with the plans for the NWO.
Come to think of it, maybe I would be better off in Europe, too, where at least the only drug available to treat my wife's rare terminal pulmonary disease has been approved for distribution. Why the FDA would reject approval is beyond me - it's only going to cost lives. But then that's probably good for them, less people demanding medicare and medicaid to pay for that drug, and less alive to collect SS in the future.
It must be interesting to live in your world. Here you have encountered a person that respects the power of the individual human, and all you see is pure evil. Am I on your list of persons that must die, as the New World Order is created?
You do not know me, but you already hate me. I do fear "loosing" [SIC] my job, getting sick, or anything of the kind. I live paycheck to paycheck these days, already lost my house and renting a much smaller space. I work as many hours as I can when I can get the work. One kid in college I'm trying to help - the only option he has for paying for it is government loans - at much higher terms than the big banks (even the foreign ones) can get. He will be enslaved by that burden for many years. It saddens me.
Other people even worse off than myself sadden me, too. There are several busy areas in town these days with people panhandling on every corner. I'm kind of a sucker for a hard luck story and can't help but pass on some cash when I have it. Some are fine doing this and would rather stand on the street than anything else (it pays about the same as minimum wage), but many are truly in a bad place and making efforts to improve things for themselves and/or their families. I've had them do some yard work for me at my rental, and it means I'm not making any money that day, but at least there's 2 of us working, so that seems better to me.
What saddens me worse are people like you so indoctrinated in the world of collectivist, big government ideology, you can't see how the elites are taking control of every aspect of life, and plan to put us all into poverty, working for their enrichment. You actually trust the globalist oligarchy to create the utopian vision of the world you dream about. It's not going to happen, because they don't care about me, and they don't care about you. You're going to have to learn to do some critical thinking - something that they steered you away from in the government schools.
Yes, "free is not really free" - but the important distinction that has gone over your head is that money is not really money. That is, money of every major type in the world today has no value whatsoever. It's a ruse. And what's running out is resources. It doesn't matter how much money is printed by the EU and the Federal Reserve, it can't create essential resources that actual humans need to live and thrive. But so many people have missed that connection that they think the government can just run an economy and make the resources appear.
We dont need people like you who think they are entitled to everything because they worked for it.
You don't need people that work? I think you're sadly mistaken, there. I do happen to think I'm entitled to what I work for. Why wouldn't I? Who has a better claim to what I work for than me? I certainly don't go around telling other people that I'm entitled to what they work for. I'd have to be some kind of a looter or thief to do that.
When its your turn to beggar, I hope you keep your attitude and pride and don't take from other beggars.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, here - "don't take from other beggars." - you're not making sense. Beggars generally don't have anything to give (although I've met many who are willing to share what little they have). But, frankly, I always just hope people will treat me like I treat them. And they usually do. And I think I'll be fine in that case. Because I do whatever needs to be done, and don't expect anyone else to hand me a living.
I've quoted this somewhere else in this thread, but I think it's appropriate here:
"SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting o
Support for a budding enterprise might be worthwhile, but what socio-economic benefit is there from disbursing cremated ash in space? If I was a VA taxpayer I'd be wondering what I'm paying for.
Presumably the spaceport is primarily for putting up satellites, which can be useful infrastructure.
Why subsidise a frivolous use of rocket fuel instead of satellites?
The private space industry (that is, private rockets and launches) is in a very early seed stage. To make it grow, you have to be able to support whatever market exists for the technology now, so that the industry can grow into supporting really interesting and much more important functions.
Think of it like the very early Internet. When the government funding was virtually gone, and it was handed over to private investment, where did most of the funding for new technologies come from? That's right: Porn. There was still a lot of tax credits and government funding for supporting and promoting Internet technologies, even though the discretionary private funding was mostly coming from people wanting to see naked chicks and 10-inch penises.
So don't worry too much if people spending money on space projects are doing it for stupid reasons right now - if it works out there will be lots of great stuff using those technologies in the future.
Because otherwise you would refuse to pay for society.
It does cost money you know.
Society is NOT government.
"SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices.... Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."
- Thomas Paine
The people of Virginia may be forced to waste their money on a stupid pork project.
You're using it wrong. A tax deduction is not "pork" - that's actual revenue earmarked for supporting only a small constituency. All states provide tax deductions for spending on some business or another that brings jobs and revenues to their state. This one is no different than the Michigan tax deduction that Michael Moore took advantage of for filming one of his movies in the state. Well, actually, it is different, because this is a $2,500 deduction from gross income, whereas what Moore got was a refundable credit of up to 42 percent which could amount to millions of dollars, and it's payable even if he ends up with NO tax liability at all.
In the midst of MASSIVE deficits, a health care crisis and a looming depression; the absurdist tradition of spending money on frivolous economic plans (like sending dead people into space) while keeping health care and other "socialist" spending away from the people that actually NEED it is, of course, the ideal of the post-modern Conservative movement.
By all means, let's enslave all the people with jobs and property, take all their money, and distribute all public and private resources based on solely on need, while working the most able and productive as much as they can stand. I'm sure that will last a few years before there's nothing left for anyone. Why wouldn't everybody want to spend 80 hours a week working their ass off for other people's "need"? I'm sure no one would make any sort of need-based claim that's not legit, would they? Makes perfect sense to me. Shit, if the talented and hard-working people don't like it, we can send them off to re-education, and if that doesn't straighten them out, might as well just dispose of them.
It's yet another sham in a long list of shameful activities where the people's money is squandered to prop up the corporations that seek to oppress us.
They aren't spending any of "the people's" money - they're letting people keep some of their OWN money IF they spend it on a space funeral instead of an impermeable crypt buried in the ground. No different than deductions for "green" energy, hybrid cars, having children, etc. Not sure how a company that launches ashes into space is "oppressing" anyone.
Anything that keeps more money in private hands and out of bureaucrats' control is a good thing, IMHO. Less money for those that not only seek to oppress us, but also have heavily-armed police, national guard troops, and armed bureaucrats to do it with.
They say the most Harley owners 'detune' their new bikes just to get the right sound out of the muffler. With the way that things might be going, I wonder if some won't miss their cars making engine sounds, not to mention blind people.
Come on, man, hasn't anybody else seen The Delimma?
Isn't the e-ink screen going to make it painful for a lot of functions, though?
My bad...I read the parent as using a Nook Color...not the eInk thing....
Ya I actually researched it a little. Cyanogenmod doesn't currently have a version that will run on a Touch at all. There was some interest in the forums, but even more comments wondering how useful it would even be...
Umm... were you around during the 1990's?
Even in a normal market, tons of hiring managers don't understand enough to separate the wheat from the chaff anyway. In an overheated market, when hiring managers have to take what they can get if they want to fill a position at all... it is STUNNINGLY easy for workers with zero aptitude to jump in.
Well that's the difference, isn't it? That's why it's important to locate and invest in the good developers now. In the speculated wave of developer bubble, it will be the difference between being the next Amazon or being the next Pets.com.
Amazon has the superior marketing position, so they will probably do very well with that Fire product. Which is kind of a shame, really, because the like-priced Nook Color is better device, and for $50 more the Nook Tablet is far superior.
I had kind of decided I was going to plop down $150 for a refurbished NC myself, but then I compared it to the Nook Tablet at the B&N, and I don't think I'd be as happy with the Color. If it wasn't for the locked bootloader I'd probably have one by now.
The Nook Touch is not a tablet - it's a book reader. Maybe what they really wanted was Nook Tablets. They might be kind of disappointed if they are expecting an iPad alternative and end up with an e-reader instead. Just sayin'.
Are you prepared to declare your opposition to the Citizens United decision, and not to vote for any candidate who does not come out against it?
Hell no, it was a good decision. I don't like "personhood" for corporations, and they are given far too much deference even without all the favoritism by select politicians, etc. But the Citizens United case was decided the right way, for free speech. Now you can make a movie and release it close to an election, too, and that's how it should be in a free society.
Will you support a constitutional amendment saying that corporations are not people
Something like that, sure.
... and money is not speech?
Money buys media and exposure. Don't we have enough economic tyranny out of Washington already? They've already disposed of real money anyway, and have shoved Federal Reserve notes at us and jail anyone that doesn't use them. What we need more is a Constitution amendment clarifying what sound money is, and that the Federal government should be under the same restrictions on paying its debt that the states are required to follow.
another way for you to hate the black guy in the white house.
Race card? Really? Are all your arguments really that shallow? Here's some news for you: I opposed the policies coming from the White House before there was a black man there, and I still do - they haven't really changed. Same direction, and more power grabs.
Unless you have found the first truthful bit of news from Hotair, I'm going to wait for some further corroboration on your list of facts.
I'm sure the perspective shot of the cute girl on the cover will sell a few copies at the local bookstore (and probably a few on Amazon, too). But from reading the review, I can't see anything about the content that looks more valuable than a printout of the W3C standards documents.
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Even with the price of HDTV cameras plummeting, I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting.
Not to mention the cost for a commercial MPEG license, required for anything you film with that HD camera.
Small wonder big media, via the representatives they own in Washington continue to wage war against public broadcasting. Not satisfied with 90% of the market, they want that last morsel, too.
Not sure why they would care. NPR is compromised and caters to their corporate sponsors just as much as the rest of the main stream media. They've even started inserting ads in the middle of their stories, just like the other stations. The only real difference is that the Federal government is also a sponsor, so they have to cater to them, too.
Yes because having to move them a few meters, so they are off government owned property, before you re-erect them is such a oppressive requirement!!
It's a prohibition on the free exercise of religion. How come Christians are the only ones that are asked to suffer this unconstitutional prohibition on their free exercise? It's unconscionable that any religion has to constantly fight for their rights to be free from government prohibitions. What good is that protection in the bill of rights when it's so often ignored?
That sounds nice and conservative, but while we all personally hate taxes, this it just government picking winners and losers and thereby encouraging certain behavior. Deductions for "green energy" and "space burial" are both overreaches of government.
Yea, I have to agree with that. I had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the claim that somehow this was supporting an "oppressive corporation". But you're right that this just amounts to more government intervention in what should be a free market.
If they're going to be coming up with new deductions and credits, I'd much prefer they get behind something like the Universal tuition tax credit than this "space burial" idea.
King Jong Il is the grinch! What a twist!
I know, right? He sounds as bad as an ACLU Lawyer!
How about if someone wants something, they pay for it? I know it is a crazy, radical, outlandish, insane idea but we may want to give it a go. If you want to donate your money to the infant staged private space industry then more power to you. Why do you have to put a gun to my head and force me to give to it?
Agreed, it's the way it should be. But then someone comes along and wants to build a public library and thinks it's okay to put a gun to my head for that. And it's not just a tax deduction for the people building it - they want to do it all with confiscated money.
You are defending social parasites. When people or corporations use publicly funded resources and don't pay a fair share, they are freeloaders. It is a form of stealing. It is no different then putting enough money in a newspaper vending machine to open it and then taking multiple copies, or going into a field and stealing produce. Your are getting something for nothing and the burden falls on those who do pay what they owe.
Note that I didn't "defend" anything, other than reducing taxes in general. And what you have said you can also say about food stamp recipients, people who qualify for AFDC, and home owners that take a mortgage interest deduction. In fact there are thousands and thousands of state and federal tax deductions for all kinds of activities. I'm assuming you put Michael Moore in the same category, for taking a refundable tax credit from Michigan for filming there?
I agree with you though that people like Al Gore and GE are major freeloaders. It's a major problem with the tax code - lots of complicated code and credits and deductions going to wealthy people and businesses. Guess who is promoting major tax reform to simplify the tax code? No one. Financial tyranny is simply too useful a tool for the corporate/government elitist oligarchy.
You realize that no one is really suggesting anything like this at all
You are a fool if you really think that's true.
And, as I pointed out, the idea that government should be able to confiscate more wealth because there are people in need is how they get people to go along with the plans for the NWO.
Come to think of it, maybe I would be better off in Europe, too, where at least the only drug available to treat my wife's rare terminal pulmonary disease has been approved for distribution. Why the FDA would reject approval is beyond me - it's only going to cost lives. But then that's probably good for them, less people demanding medicare and medicaid to pay for that drug, and less alive to collect SS in the future.
It must be interesting to live in your world. Here you have encountered a person that respects the power of the individual human, and all you see is pure evil. Am I on your list of persons that must die, as the New World Order is created?
You do not know me, but you already hate me. I do fear "loosing" [SIC] my job, getting sick, or anything of the kind. I live paycheck to paycheck these days, already lost my house and renting a much smaller space. I work as many hours as I can when I can get the work. One kid in college I'm trying to help - the only option he has for paying for it is government loans - at much higher terms than the big banks (even the foreign ones) can get. He will be enslaved by that burden for many years. It saddens me.
Other people even worse off than myself sadden me, too. There are several busy areas in town these days with people panhandling on every corner. I'm kind of a sucker for a hard luck story and can't help but pass on some cash when I have it. Some are fine doing this and would rather stand on the street than anything else (it pays about the same as minimum wage), but many are truly in a bad place and making efforts to improve things for themselves and/or their families. I've had them do some yard work for me at my rental, and it means I'm not making any money that day, but at least there's 2 of us working, so that seems better to me.
What saddens me worse are people like you so indoctrinated in the world of collectivist, big government ideology, you can't see how the elites are taking control of every aspect of life, and plan to put us all into poverty, working for their enrichment. You actually trust the globalist oligarchy to create the utopian vision of the world you dream about. It's not going to happen, because they don't care about me, and they don't care about you. You're going to have to learn to do some critical thinking - something that they steered you away from in the government schools.
Yes, "free is not really free" - but the important distinction that has gone over your head is that money is not really money. That is, money of every major type in the world today has no value whatsoever. It's a ruse. And what's running out is resources. It doesn't matter how much money is printed by the EU and the Federal Reserve, it can't create essential resources that actual humans need to live and thrive. But so many people have missed that connection that they think the government can just run an economy and make the resources appear.
We dont need people like you who think they are entitled to everything because they worked for it.
You don't need people that work? I think you're sadly mistaken, there. I do happen to think I'm entitled to what I work for. Why wouldn't I? Who has a better claim to what I work for than me? I certainly don't go around telling other people that I'm entitled to what they work for. I'd have to be some kind of a looter or thief to do that.
When its your turn to beggar, I hope you keep your attitude and pride and don't take from other beggars.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, here - "don't take from other beggars." - you're not making sense. Beggars generally don't have anything to give (although I've met many who are willing to share what little they have). But, frankly, I always just hope people will treat me like I treat them. And they usually do. And I think I'll be fine in that case. Because I do whatever needs to be done, and don't expect anyone else to hand me a living.
I've quoted this somewhere else in this thread, but I think it's appropriate here:
Support for a budding enterprise might be worthwhile, but what socio-economic benefit is there from disbursing cremated ash in space? If I was a VA taxpayer I'd be wondering what I'm paying for.
Presumably the spaceport is primarily for putting up satellites, which can be useful infrastructure.
Why subsidise a frivolous use of rocket fuel instead of satellites?
The private space industry (that is, private rockets and launches) is in a very early seed stage. To make it grow, you have to be able to support whatever market exists for the technology now, so that the industry can grow into supporting really interesting and much more important functions.
Think of it like the very early Internet. When the government funding was virtually gone, and it was handed over to private investment, where did most of the funding for new technologies come from? That's right: Porn. There was still a lot of tax credits and government funding for supporting and promoting Internet technologies, even though the discretionary private funding was mostly coming from people wanting to see naked chicks and 10-inch penises.
So don't worry too much if people spending money on space projects are doing it for stupid reasons right now - if it works out there will be lots of great stuff using those technologies in the future.
Because otherwise you would refuse to pay for society.
It does cost money you know.
Society is NOT government.
The people of Virginia may be forced to waste their money on a stupid pork project.
You're using it wrong. A tax deduction is not "pork" - that's actual revenue earmarked for supporting only a small constituency. All states provide tax deductions for spending on some business or another that brings jobs and revenues to their state. This one is no different than the Michigan tax deduction that Michael Moore took advantage of for filming one of his movies in the state. Well, actually, it is different, because this is a $2,500 deduction from gross income, whereas what Moore got was a refundable credit of up to 42 percent which could amount to millions of dollars, and it's payable even if he ends up with NO tax liability at all.
In the midst of MASSIVE deficits, a health care crisis and a looming depression; the absurdist tradition of spending money on frivolous economic plans (like sending dead people into space) while keeping health care and other "socialist" spending away from the people that actually NEED it is, of course, the ideal of the post-modern Conservative movement.
By all means, let's enslave all the people with jobs and property, take all their money, and distribute all public and private resources based on solely on need, while working the most able and productive as much as they can stand. I'm sure that will last a few years before there's nothing left for anyone. Why wouldn't everybody want to spend 80 hours a week working their ass off for other people's "need"? I'm sure no one would make any sort of need-based claim that's not legit, would they? Makes perfect sense to me. Shit, if the talented and hard-working people don't like it, we can send them off to re-education, and if that doesn't straighten them out, might as well just dispose of them.
It's yet another sham in a long list of shameful activities where the people's money is squandered to prop up the corporations that seek to oppress us.
They aren't spending any of "the people's" money - they're letting people keep some of their OWN money IF they spend it on a space funeral instead of an impermeable crypt buried in the ground. No different than deductions for "green" energy, hybrid cars, having children, etc. Not sure how a company that launches ashes into space is "oppressing" anyone.
Anything that keeps more money in private hands and out of bureaucrats' control is a good thing, IMHO. Less money for those that not only seek to oppress us, but also have heavily-armed police, national guard troops, and armed bureaucrats to do it with.
They say the most Harley owners 'detune' their new bikes just to get the right sound out of the muffler. With the way that things might be going, I wonder if some won't miss their cars making engine sounds, not to mention blind people.
Come on, man, hasn't anybody else seen The Delimma?
My bad...I read the parent as using a Nook Color...not the eInk thing....
Ya I actually researched it a little. Cyanogenmod doesn't currently have a version that will run on a Touch at all. There was some interest in the forums, but even more comments wondering how useful it would even be...
"...the vast majority of them haven't found a way to use their own scarcity to their advantage."
The way: Unions.
Face palm
Umm... were you around during the 1990's? Even in a normal market, tons of hiring managers don't understand enough to separate the wheat from the chaff anyway. In an overheated market, when hiring managers have to take what they can get if they want to fill a position at all... it is STUNNINGLY easy for workers with zero aptitude to jump in.
Well that's the difference, isn't it? That's why it's important to locate and invest in the good developers now. In the speculated wave of developer bubble, it will be the difference between being the next Amazon or being the next Pets.com.
I beg to differ..they *can* be a full blown tablet.
You root them and put cyanogenmod7 on them and voila...great little tablet.
Isn't the e-ink screen going to make it painful for a lot of functions, though?
Amazon has the superior marketing position, so they will probably do very well with that Fire product. Which is kind of a shame, really, because the like-priced Nook Color is better device, and for $50 more the Nook Tablet is far superior.
I had kind of decided I was going to plop down $150 for a refurbished NC myself, but then I compared it to the Nook Tablet at the B&N, and I don't think I'd be as happy with the Color. If it wasn't for the locked bootloader I'd probably have one by now.
The Nook Touch is not a tablet - it's a book reader. Maybe what they really wanted was Nook Tablets. They might be kind of disappointed if they are expecting an iPad alternative and end up with an e-reader instead. Just sayin'.
Why not transparency for all corporate donations?
You mean like this?
Are you prepared to declare your opposition to the Citizens United decision, and not to vote for any candidate who does not come out against it?
Hell no, it was a good decision. I don't like "personhood" for corporations, and they are given far too much deference even without all the favoritism by select politicians, etc. But the Citizens United case was decided the right way, for free speech. Now you can make a movie and release it close to an election, too, and that's how it should be in a free society.
Will you support a constitutional amendment saying that corporations are not people
Something like that, sure.
... and money is not speech?
Money buys media and exposure. Don't we have enough economic tyranny out of Washington already? They've already disposed of real money anyway, and have shoved Federal Reserve notes at us and jail anyone that doesn't use them. What we need more is a Constitution amendment clarifying what sound money is, and that the Federal government should be under the same restrictions on paying its debt that the states are required to follow.
another way for you to hate the black guy in the white house.
Race card? Really? Are all your arguments really that shallow? Here's some news for you: I opposed the policies coming from the White House before there was a black man there, and I still do - they haven't really changed. Same direction, and more power grabs.
Unless you have found the first truthful bit of news from Hotair, I'm going to wait for some further corroboration on your list of facts.
How about the New York Times?
Whoosh!
I'm sure the perspective shot of the cute girl on the cover will sell a few copies at the local bookstore (and probably a few on Amazon, too). But from reading the review, I can't see anything about the content that looks more valuable than a printout of the W3C standards documents.