You know there is a fine line between hate speech and free speech. Most of it all lately seems to be coming for campaign speeches but whatdya gonna do bout it?
We never really have had privacy in my lifetime BUT at least back in the good ole days they didn't have the resources to spy on every single person as they do today with cheap computers and surveillance equipment.
Now legally you are probably right. But if it doesn't work legally they work extralegal (Hoover), so it really doesn't matter. So you are right in the sense that we now have no sense.
Now it's pretty cool if Hoover had a file on you. Now they just have a file on everyone and they now also have computers to help them read them all. Remember the Nazi's had this tech direct from IBM to find the Jews real quick. Of course there is a little less crime this way but the potential for abuse is pretty high right now.
Communist like is a good term for another topic. I was just asking why so many programs need root access at all especially CAD programs? Aren't computers fast enough now that they can stick with the API's and even phones. If it doesn't get you a virus or something like that, it just causes stuff to crash tinkering with the video at the hardware level. Maybe it's all because of ATI drivers, who knows but a program (at least not so many) doesn't need root access. I think that is NOT the fault of either OS and with Linux you didn't see that much of this until Google builds their system on top of a cobbled up version of JAVA and sells a ton of Android phones that practically have to be rooted to achieve any use out of them. There is still lots of 2.2.2 phones out there. If want screen capture with that root your phone or you can't have it. Want to get rid of crapware, root your phone. Apple doesn't come with crapware but also makes you sign extra agreements and such.
I personally don't see why I would want to copy Apple especially if I had what I thought was a better design. Some things are in fact a form follows function thing such as a lid on a soda bottle, and I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to mistake a Dell laptop for an Apple one despite the similarity in shape. Eventually as miniaturization comes in things have to form a certain shape to have minimum size. As far as soda bottles go, you would think they would be more square as to lower shipping costs as a case of those would take up less area than cylinders. So that 32/24/36 shape of a Coke bottle should be considered theirs. The way Apple has been going they will try to sue everyone is my point and this is not a good thing unless you are a lawyer I guess. To me it just makes them look bad as some Taiwanese designs look even cooler than some of Apples stuff. They can't say if it looks artistic, it's ours but it appears that is really what they are about.
Like a tablet probably has to be square. Apple sued Samsung over that but to me they look very different especially when you turn one on. We'll I guess that's OK so we may in fact see some swooping curves from other manufactures. I were let's say Samsung, I would want to look like Samsung or the same with Sony. All I see in the drawing is the shape of a trapezoid which seems pretty broad to me compared to a Coke bottle which is a more complex shape. The batteries are staying pretty much the same size while the rest of the components are getting smaller. What other shape would they be more or less?
Apple may be in violation of some hardware patents out there on digital signal processing and such. So to me they are playing a dangerous game in suing people that aren't really copying them and the ones that do sell their stuff in China where property law of any kind is not respected.
Why not just try to come out with the better product each time?
They look the same to me. Either way I expect lawsuits to come from Apple as they seem to like doing this these days and I don't see how that will help them long term although they might get some short term benefit, if they make every electronics manufacturer mad at them, they just don't have enough patents to even go up against Samsung alone much less if they combine forces which will surely happen if they don't stop suing everybody.
Well Windows 7 64bit is currently the safest version of that OS unless maybe the phones because no one uses them. It seems with Android all of the cool programs just have to have root access for some reason. It used to be that all windows programs required that just to install and many still do. So Microsoft is becoming more Unix like and Linux is becoming more Windows like probably because of the increased user base that you have mentioned.
No but Apple utilizes it after the fact that someone else thought of it. I don't see Coke suing Pepsi over the shape of their bottle. Apple did the same thing to Windows and they won sort of except Microsoft now owns the desktop when they could have. Screw Apple, they even want you to sign extra agreements in addition to what the carrier asks for. Android doesn't do this.
If Apple would spend their time making better products instead of being cry babies, I might just like them. As of right now, their smart phones are way over priced for what you get, but hey that's good. That is what they get for off-shoring everything and only being able to design a geometric shape. When it comes down to it, the best sales tool is price. Apple has always been high priced. Some feel it worth for a while but not for ever.
Now they want HTC stopped at the shores after complying with their design patent. HTC doesn't have a ton of patents but Samsung does and they are starting to fight back with patents they have that Apple has violated. What comes around will go around there.
Wait until you see what a hardware patent will do. Someone can change a design but might have more trouble fighting hardware patents which Apple does not have in abundance. Anyone who has used an Android device regardless of it's shape knows they aren't copying Apple. The wedge shape patent can be broken easily. All you have to do is make the shape slightly different and presto no wedge.
Agreed, but all Apple will do is slow the introduction of competitors products. When these hardware companies that have many hardware patents instead of just stuff related to look and feel fight back like Samsung and probably every other Android manufacturer eventually, it's not going to be good for Apple down the road, but hey they flipped the switch and started patent wars along with Oracle which might just have really messed things up, I just don't see how this can be good for anyone including Apple.
Really, it's prior art and obvious. Apple must be incapable of competing. Just wait until Samsung finishes with them as they actually have a lot of hardware patents. All Apple has is this look and feel stuff.
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I didn't even do that. There has been a long tradition of NOT doing that here.
You know there is a fine line between hate speech and free speech. Most of it all lately seems to be coming for campaign speeches but whatdya gonna do bout it?
Wasn't Ethiopia where Obama was born? Donald Trump wants to know.
We never really have had privacy in my lifetime BUT at least back in the good ole days they didn't have the resources to spy on every single person as they do today with cheap computers and surveillance equipment.
Now legally you are probably right. But if it doesn't work legally they work extralegal (Hoover), so it really doesn't matter. So you are right in the sense that we now have no sense.
Now it's pretty cool if Hoover had a file on you. Now they just have a file on everyone and they now also have computers to help them read them all. Remember the Nazi's had this tech direct from IBM to find the Jews real quick. Of course there is a little less crime this way but the potential for abuse is pretty high right now.
Seriously, they might be undercover from some but not the ones that do the hiring. That way they could get in just the right posisition to be in.
Communist like is a good term for another topic. I was just asking why so many programs need root access at all especially CAD programs? Aren't computers fast enough now that they can stick with the API's and even phones. If it doesn't get you a virus or something like that, it just causes stuff to crash tinkering with the video at the hardware level. Maybe it's all because of ATI drivers, who knows but a program (at least not so many) doesn't need root access. I think that is NOT the fault of either OS and with Linux you didn't see that much of this until Google builds their system on top of a cobbled up version of JAVA and sells a ton of Android phones that practically have to be rooted to achieve any use out of them. There is still lots of 2.2.2 phones out there. If want screen capture with that root your phone or you can't have it. Want to get rid of crapware, root your phone. Apple doesn't come with crapware but also makes you sign extra agreements and such.
I personally don't see why I would want to copy Apple especially if I had what I thought was a better design. Some things are in fact a form follows function thing such as a lid on a soda bottle, and I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to mistake a Dell laptop for an Apple one despite the similarity in shape. Eventually as miniaturization comes in things have to form a certain shape to have minimum size. As far as soda bottles go, you would think they would be more square as to lower shipping costs as a case of those would take up less area than cylinders. So that 32/24/36 shape of a Coke bottle should be considered theirs. The way Apple has been going they will try to sue everyone is my point and this is not a good thing unless you are a lawyer I guess. To me it just makes them look bad as some Taiwanese designs look even cooler than some of Apples stuff. They can't say if it looks artistic, it's ours but it appears that is really what they are about.
Like a tablet probably has to be square. Apple sued Samsung over that but to me they look very different especially when you turn one on. We'll I guess that's OK so we may in fact see some swooping curves from other manufactures. I were let's say Samsung, I would want to look like Samsung or the same with Sony. All I see in the drawing is the shape of a trapezoid which seems pretty broad to me compared to a Coke bottle which is a more complex shape. The batteries are staying pretty much the same size while the rest of the components are getting smaller. What other shape would they be more or less?
Apple may be in violation of some hardware patents out there on digital signal processing and such. So to me they are playing a dangerous game in suing people that aren't really copying them and the ones that do sell their stuff in China where property law of any kind is not respected.
Why not just try to come out with the better product each time?
They look the same to me. Either way I expect lawsuits to come from Apple as they seem to like doing this these days and I don't see how that will help them long term although they might get some short term benefit, if they make every electronics manufacturer mad at them, they just don't have enough patents to even go up against Samsung alone much less if they combine forces which will surely happen if they don't stop suing everybody.
Well Windows 7 64bit is currently the safest version of that OS unless maybe the phones because no one uses them. It seems with Android all of the cool programs just have to have root access for some reason. It used to be that all windows programs required that just to install and many still do. So Microsoft is becoming more Unix like and Linux is becoming more Windows like probably because of the increased user base that you have mentioned.
If so then why not use a trademark instead?
Who copies Apple exactly anyhow?
--The slashdot summary that said it was a "broad" patent is completely false.--
I think Apple will assume it is broad and sue the hell out of everyone.
Sony circa 2005.
I guess I better patent the parabola shaped laptop before someone else does with components shrinking.
No, along with software patents. It just hinders innovation. Heck the Atari 800XL is wedge shaped. It's stupid.
This seems like a correct answer to me and the previous one by AC BS.
That would seem to take a lot.
Well I'm not against patents just stupid ones like patenting math formulas or the blatantly obvious.
No but Apple utilizes it after the fact that someone else thought of it. I don't see Coke suing Pepsi over the shape of their bottle. Apple did the same thing to Windows and they won sort of except Microsoft now owns the desktop when they could have. Screw Apple, they even want you to sign extra agreements in addition to what the carrier asks for. Android doesn't do this.
If Apple would spend their time making better products instead of being cry babies, I might just like them. As of right now, their smart phones are way over priced for what you get, but hey that's good. That is what they get for off-shoring everything and only being able to design a geometric shape. When it comes down to it, the best sales tool is price. Apple has always been high priced. Some feel it worth for a while but not for ever.
Now they want HTC stopped at the shores after complying with their design patent. HTC doesn't have a ton of patents but Samsung does and they are starting to fight back with patents they have that Apple has violated. What comes around will go around there.
Did they? They have a trademark so it would seem redundant.
Wait until you see what a hardware patent will do. Someone can change a design but might have more trouble fighting hardware patents which Apple does not have in abundance. Anyone who has used an Android device regardless of it's shape knows they aren't copying Apple. The wedge shape patent can be broken easily. All you have to do is make the shape slightly different and presto no wedge.
I think Sony did this first but who cares? It's OBVIOUS. Don't forget to patent 4 wheels for a car or someone else might do that.
Agreed, but all Apple will do is slow the introduction of competitors products. When these hardware companies that have many hardware patents instead of just stuff related to look and feel fight back like Samsung and probably every other Android manufacturer eventually, it's not going to be good for Apple down the road, but hey they flipped the switch and started patent wars along with Oracle which might just have really messed things up, I just don't see how this can be good for anyone including Apple.
Really, it's prior art and obvious. Apple must be incapable of competing. Just wait until Samsung finishes with them as they actually have a lot of hardware patents. All Apple has is this look and feel stuff.
We'll nVidia still makes good drivers for their high end CAD stuff but point taken on everything else.