"Having said all that - there are so many other issues around Microsoft that I'm suprised the BSOD/crash jokes are the one thing that concerns you the most."
Heh. The only reason that BSOD jokes 'concern' me relates to something you said here. Windows has all kinds of silly issues. BSOD's are virtually gone. Win2k has wonderful uptime. So people using Win2k jokes are so sick and tired of hearing stale jokes about Windows crashing. It's like saying "Theater's better than movies because live actors are in color."
For example, one guy used to have a sig that read: "I left a Windows XP CD in my car overnight. The next morning I noticed that somebody broke into my car and left two more of them." Heh that one cracked me up. Microsoft continually generates comedic opportunities, but the Linux zealots out there or so unaware that the world has changed since 1995 that we still get the same old stupid jokes. As with the movies metaphor I used earlier, they sound about as informed about Windows when they make that joke.
To put it simply: Enough of the blue screen jokes, let's move on to some refreshing MS material.
I appreciate that ya didn't make the same assumption most do. Im so sick of people saying that Microsoft's paying me to say nice things about them. Frankly, I just want more intelligent comments and less idiotic ones that seem to always get +1's.
"Its not zealotry. Its not stale rhetoric. It is, in fact, making my choice as a consumer to protect my best interest."
May I ask what about SP3 bugs ya? (I haven't kept up on service packs as of late, did they pull some TaC shit?) Im just curious why you made that decision. Don't worry, I have no intention of arguing with ya or telling you that you shouldn't have switched. (I have no business telling you that in the first place.) I just wanna know what you know in case I should be looking to move to Mac.
"On the other hand, we could spend that money on a handful of Representatives who could draft legislation favorable to our cause, and send a message that people on the take from the corporations better get lost."
I doubt we could ever buy more reps than Disney could.
Sorry, this piece didn't phase me a whole lot. The DMCA may have won, but the SSSCA hasn't. I remember one comment along the lines of "we got tons and tons of messages expressing their disgust at the SSSCA, but not a single message in favor of it." Sitting quitely and 'writing code' is not the answer. If anything, what he's suggesting will cause bs like the SSSCA to make greater claims for the need to tightly control how computers work.
It wasn't that long ago that somebody mentioned that the best way to protect our rights was to do something like the NRA does. Gather our resources and blow away a single person. (I mean that metaphorically, I dont mean shoot anybody. Normally I wouldn't need to clarify this, but there's always one dumbshit...) We may not be able to gather enough money to sway political opinion, but it is possible to make one person in particular suffer some sort of consequences, whether it's financially or public opinion.
This doesn't seem like a big deal unless people like Senator Dis^H^H^H^HHollings realize that if they piss off a community like Slashdot, they could end up getting targetted. As I said, that's how the NRA's been able to hang around this long. If anything, we should be looking in their direction. They obviously have a better idea about how to go about maintaining rights than suggesting that people just stay home and clean their guns.
"If I was one of those Mac or Linux Zealots, I suppose I would hate the gaming gap... but since I don't really have much of a problem with owning a dedicated "game PC", it's really kind of a non- issue to me."
Sadly, Linux Zealots are so anti-MS that they won't buy that as an option. Pity, really: they're shooting themselves in the foot with that attitude. From a practicality point of view, one should choose their OS/Computer based on what their needs are.
If one refuses to dual-boot Win2k on a Linux box, then they're also refusing to have good game support. If they can accept that, that's fine. However, Bill Gates doesn't care and most of us don't want to listen to stale anti-MS sentiments. At that point, it's your choice. Your discomfort is your own.
"I played NWN on a Win2K box and didn't reboot for over two weeks. So what are you talking about? Oh I forget, I'm talking to a/.er"
I think most MS people that jumped ship to Linux did so after Windows 98. I don't blame them for that. Windows 98 was horrid. Sadly, they missed Windows 2000 in the process. Pity, if they hadn't, they'd have more respect for the Windows NT line.
In the mean time, we'll have to put up with stale 'herherher Windows always crashes, give me a +1 Funny' jokes. Oh, if MS made something shitty 4 years ago, it stands to reason they couldn't possibly have improved.
BTW, I have one more comment to make about #6: You have no idea what all I do with my computer. You have no idea what's involved in making 3D animation. How can you honestly expect to know more than I do about what I need? It's called zealousy.
The only reason you're bothering to reply to me at all is because you can't stand the idea that Linux just isn't for everybody. Sorry! It still has some evolving to go through.
1.) No there are not. You have Maya and Softimage. That's it. They both cost more, plus they have inferior renderers. Oops, $5,000 for Renderman to fix that
2.) Gimp isn't quite there yet, tried it.
3.) any.
4.) SSL does not a web experience make. Did you miss all of the 'all sites are designed for IE nowadays' thread that happened about 4 times in the last month?
5.) Im not bashing anything. It is a fact: Installing Linux will not improve anything I'm doing today. End of story. If you're offended by that comment, grow up! For what I do, Windows wins.
6.) Actually I have used Linux, that's how I know it won't help me. I'm fully qualified to comment on it, thank you. I'm running an Apache Webserver on RedHat as a matter of fact. I love it for that, hate it as a desktop OS. Sorry, Windows wins there. I'd be a real idiot if I switched to Linux.
Don't needta. Windows 2000 is just fine for what I'm doing today. When I have time to play I'll investigate Linux.
Even if Linux was supercalifragilistic (and it's not, I have a box running it at work.), there's still the following problems:
1.) I run Lightwave. LW is PC/Mac only. 2.) I run Photoshop and After Effects. See point 1 3.) I play with new hardware quite often. New hardware is best supported in Windows 2000. Sorry. 4.) I do a lot of web based stuff. Windows provides the best experience for the internet. Sorry. 5.) I'm already up and running, I don't have the time to start over with a brand new OS just so i can gain popularity points wiht Slashdot. 6.) See point 5. 7.) See pooint 6.
This flaw does not expose Windows to any more problems than is exposed to Linux. If I'm running Opera on Windows, it's not an issue unless Opera itself also has the issue.
To put it simply: This is not a devastating blow to my point.
Do I even care? I can use VB to write apps useful to ME for what I am doing NOW. My only point is Perl has it's place, VB has it's place elsewhere. There is no 'Vs'.
Perl is no better than VB at visual stuff than VB is better than Perl at scripting and efficiency.
"Konqueror != Linux, unlike IE which IS part of Windows (see Microsoft's own testimony in the antitrust trial)."
It still comes with KDE. Now, to be fair, it's not as interconnected as say Outlook is to IE. However, SSL is a typical browsing mode that has to be secure. Just because the problem exists, it isn't anymore a vulnerability to Windows than Konqueror is to Linux.
However, that is far from the point I was making. The point I was making was that security on any OS or browser is a myth. Switching to Linux doesn't make your computer more secure, it makes it more obscure.
The only reason that hasn't harshly been demonstrated yet is that Linux users are few and far between compared to Windows or even Mac users. So Windows bears the most of the brunt of the effort put into taking it down. Trust me, if/when Linux has it's day, it'll have it's share of security related issues as well. I don't care if you disagree with me on that point or not. However, you're not doing yourself any harm by treating your computer as though it is vulnerable, and take sensible precautions.
"The job I see being in danger is that of the stunt doubles. Why hang from a helicopter when the CGI department can make an adequate replacement?"
Well, the way I see it, in order for me to animate a stunt double, I'd have to know what the stunt looks like. Unfortunately, the helicopter example doesn't help my case much because there's tons and tons and tons of reference footage out there available of people hanging from helicopters. However, what about martial arts? At best, I could do a parody of martial arts. But I could not come up with a new sequence that anybody'd who's done martial arts before could really appreciate.
That make sense? I have a terrible habit of muddying my own points.
"... you mean Linux isn't 100% secure? How humbling!"
Doh...
"...user has given a Flamebait (-1) moderation to your comment, Whoah..., attached to IE and Konqueror Bug Makes SSL Insecure. Your comment is currently scored (0)."
I guess it wasn't, my mistake. Never mind that if I made that comment about Microsoft I'd get a +1 Funny.
Frankly, my feelings aren't hurt. If I'm going to get modded down for pointing out that Linux has it's own security problems, that's fine. I'm not the one who's pride's gonna bite me in the butt down the road.
"Got news for you bud: if you meant for your post to be humorous, you failed spectacularly."
I'm sure the guy I was responding to who was complaining about over-coverage of celebrities found it quite amusing. Your inability to see my response as silly is your own.
"All you've proven is that pathetic geeks find humor in people of higher social stature getting in accidents."
Uhh, I didn't prove anything. I just made a silly comment. Sorry bud.
I hope you get your irrational anger under control some day. Some might mistake you for a pre-menstral woman!
I see what this was all about: My teacher acquired this license plate so that 18 years later it'd introduce me to a bunch of comedian wannabee's on Slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
Ouch!! That was a good one!! heh.
"Having said all that - there are so many other issues around Microsoft that I'm suprised the BSOD/crash jokes are the one thing that concerns you the most."
Heh. The only reason that BSOD jokes 'concern' me relates to something you said here. Windows has all kinds of silly issues. BSOD's are virtually gone. Win2k has wonderful uptime. So people using Win2k jokes are so sick and tired of hearing stale jokes about Windows crashing. It's like saying "Theater's better than movies because live actors are in color."
For example, one guy used to have a sig that read: "I left a Windows XP CD in my car overnight. The next morning I noticed that somebody broke into my car and left two more of them." Heh that one cracked me up. Microsoft continually generates comedic opportunities, but the Linux zealots out there or so unaware that the world has changed since 1995 that we still get the same old stupid jokes. As with the movies metaphor I used earlier, they sound about as informed about Windows when they make that joke.
To put it simply: Enough of the blue screen jokes, let's move on to some refreshing MS material.
I appreciate that ya didn't make the same assumption most do. Im so sick of people saying that Microsoft's paying me to say nice things about them. Frankly, I just want more intelligent comments and less idiotic ones that seem to always get +1's.
"Its not zealotry. Its not stale rhetoric. It is, in fact, making my choice as a consumer to protect my best interest."
May I ask what about SP3 bugs ya? (I haven't kept up on service packs as of late, did they pull some TaC shit?) Im just curious why you made that decision. Don't worry, I have no intention of arguing with ya or telling you that you shouldn't have switched. (I have no business telling you that in the first place.) I just wanna know what you know in case I should be looking to move to Mac.
"On the other hand, we could spend that money on a handful of Representatives who could draft legislation favorable to our cause, and send a message that people on the take from the corporations better get lost."
I doubt we could ever buy more reps than Disney could.
Sorry, this piece didn't phase me a whole lot. The DMCA may have won, but the SSSCA hasn't. I remember one comment along the lines of "we got tons and tons of messages expressing their disgust at the SSSCA, but not a single message in favor of it." Sitting quitely and 'writing code' is not the answer. If anything, what he's suggesting will cause bs like the SSSCA to make greater claims for the need to tightly control how computers work.
It wasn't that long ago that somebody mentioned that the best way to protect our rights was to do something like the NRA does. Gather our resources and blow away a single person. (I mean that metaphorically, I dont mean shoot anybody. Normally I wouldn't need to clarify this, but there's always one dumbshit...) We may not be able to gather enough money to sway political opinion, but it is possible to make one person in particular suffer some sort of consequences, whether it's financially or public opinion.
This doesn't seem like a big deal unless people like Senator Dis^H^H^H^HHollings realize that if they piss off a community like Slashdot, they could end up getting targetted. As I said, that's how the NRA's been able to hang around this long. If anything, we should be looking in their direction. They obviously have a better idea about how to go about maintaining rights than suggesting that people just stay home and clean their guns.
"If I was one of those Mac or Linux Zealots, I suppose I would hate the gaming gap... but since I don't really have much of a problem with owning a dedicated "game PC", it's really kind of a non- issue to me."
Sadly, Linux Zealots are so anti-MS that they won't buy that as an option. Pity, really: they're shooting themselves in the foot with that attitude. From a practicality point of view, one should choose their OS/Computer based on what their needs are.
If one refuses to dual-boot Win2k on a Linux box, then they're also refusing to have good game support. If they can accept that, that's fine. However, Bill Gates doesn't care and most of us don't want to listen to stale anti-MS sentiments. At that point, it's your choice. Your discomfort is your own.
Err oops, yeah I think he meant that too. Doh. heh.
/. using 'reboot' and 'Windows' in the same sentence without aiming for a +1 Funny?
Thanks for pointing that out. What are the odds of somebody on
Why would he be running Linux if he wants to play games? It's kinda like buying a Playstation 2 and whining about not being able to play Zelda on it.
"I played NWN on a Win2K box and didn't reboot for over two weeks. So what are you talking about? Oh I forget, I'm talking to a /.er"
I think most MS people that jumped ship to Linux did so after Windows 98. I don't blame them for that. Windows 98 was horrid. Sadly, they missed Windows 2000 in the process. Pity, if they hadn't, they'd have more respect for the Windows NT line.
In the mean time, we'll have to put up with stale 'herherher Windows always crashes, give me a +1 Funny' jokes. Oh, if MS made something shitty 4 years ago, it stands to reason they couldn't possibly have improved.
BTW, I have one more comment to make about #6: You have no idea what all I do with my computer. You have no idea what's involved in making 3D animation. How can you honestly expect to know more than I do about what I need? It's called zealousy.
The only reason you're bothering to reply to me at all is because you can't stand the idea that Linux just isn't for everybody. Sorry! It still has some evolving to go through.
1.) No there are not. You have Maya and Softimage. That's it. They both cost more, plus they have inferior renderers. Oops, $5,000 for Renderman to fix that
2.) Gimp isn't quite there yet, tried it.
3.) any.
4.) SSL does not a web experience make. Did you miss all of the 'all sites are designed for IE nowadays' thread that happened about 4 times in the last month?
5.) Im not bashing anything. It is a fact: Installing Linux will not improve anything I'm doing today. End of story. If you're offended by that comment, grow up! For what I do, Windows wins.
6.) Actually I have used Linux, that's how I know it won't help me. I'm fully qualified to comment on it, thank you. I'm running an Apache Webserver on RedHat as a matter of fact. I love it for that, hate it as a desktop OS. Sorry, Windows wins there. I'd be a real idiot if I switched to Linux.
Don't needta. Windows 2000 is just fine for what I'm doing today. When I have time to play I'll investigate Linux.
Even if Linux was supercalifragilistic (and it's not, I have a box running it at work.), there's still the following problems:
1.) I run Lightwave. LW is PC/Mac only.
2.) I run Photoshop and After Effects. See point 1
3.) I play with new hardware quite often. New hardware is best supported in Windows 2000. Sorry.
4.) I do a lot of web based stuff. Windows provides the best experience for the internet. Sorry.
5.) I'm already up and running, I don't have the time to start over with a brand new OS just so i can gain popularity points wiht Slashdot.
6.) See point 5.
7.) See pooint 6.
Get my drift?
This flaw does not expose Windows to any more problems than is exposed to Linux. If I'm running Opera on Windows, it's not an issue unless Opera itself also has the issue.
To put it simply: This is not a devastating blow to my point.
Do I even care? I can use VB to write apps useful to ME for what I am doing NOW. My only point is Perl has it's place, VB has it's place elsewhere. There is no 'Vs'.
Perl is no better than VB at visual stuff than VB is better than Perl at scripting and efficiency.
There, settled, grow up and move on.
Why do you wanna cripple mouse support by only supporting prompts?
"Oh why don't you shut up you wuss!"
What's the matter? Don't have a counterpoint so ya want me to shut up?
Heh you're trying reaaaaaaaaaaally hard to wind me up. Doesnt that make you the bully?
Can't say I'm terribly phased by your inaccurate assumptions. Sozz man. Get some help, really.
Yet, nobody who developed apache's making any money.
Perl better than VB? Let's see, I can write a quick little app with a visual interface rather quickly in VB. And Perl can.. uh.. script? Heh.
ROFLMAO
"Konqueror != Linux, unlike IE which IS part of Windows (see Microsoft's own testimony in the antitrust trial)."
It still comes with KDE. Now, to be fair, it's not as interconnected as say Outlook is to IE. However, SSL is a typical browsing mode that has to be secure. Just because the problem exists, it isn't anymore a vulnerability to Windows than Konqueror is to Linux.
However, that is far from the point I was making. The point I was making was that security on any OS or browser is a myth. Switching to Linux doesn't make your computer more secure, it makes it more obscure.
The only reason that hasn't harshly been demonstrated yet is that Linux users are few and far between compared to Windows or even Mac users. So Windows bears the most of the brunt of the effort put into taking it down. Trust me, if/when Linux has it's day, it'll have it's share of security related issues as well. I don't care if you disagree with me on that point or not. However, you're not doing yourself any harm by treating your computer as though it is vulnerable, and take sensible precautions.
"The job I see being in danger is that of the stunt doubles. Why hang from a helicopter when the CGI department can make an adequate replacement?"
Well, the way I see it, in order for me to animate a stunt double, I'd have to know what the stunt looks like. Unfortunately, the helicopter example doesn't help my case much because there's tons and tons and tons of reference footage out there available of people hanging from helicopters. However, what about martial arts? At best, I could do a parody of martial arts. But I could not come up with a new sequence that anybody'd who's done martial arts before could really appreciate.
That make sense? I have a terrible habit of muddying my own points.
Doh...
I guess it wasn't, my mistake. Never mind that if I made that comment about Microsoft I'd get a +1 Funny.
Frankly, my feelings aren't hurt. If I'm going to get modded down for pointing out that Linux has it's own security problems, that's fine. I'm not the one who's pride's gonna bite me in the butt down the road.
... you mean Linux isn't 100% secure? How humbling!
"Got news for you bud: if you meant for your post to be humorous, you failed spectacularly."
I'm sure the guy I was responding to who was complaining about over-coverage of celebrities found it quite amusing. Your inability to see my response as silly is your own.
"All you've proven is that pathetic geeks find humor in people of higher social stature getting in accidents."
Uhh, I didn't prove anything. I just made a silly comment. Sorry bud.
I hope you get your irrational anger under control some day. Some might mistake you for a pre-menstral woman!
I'm not talking about vanity plates. Yeesh.
I see what this was all about: My teacher acquired this license plate so that 18 years later it'd introduce me to a bunch of comedian wannabee's on Slashdot.
"well when blender goes Open it will be better than lightwave so pffft !"
Yeah because we all know how much better 'Open' software becomes than commercial. *eyeroll*