That's the first reasonable argument I've seen in this thread. Other posts claim sadism, cruel and unusual punishment, inhumanity, etc. with no substantiation whatsoever. In contrast, you make a good point.
Unfortunately for Joe's Foes, your agument applies to all prisons and jails. Not just Joe's. Imprisoning people for victimless crimes such as drug use is wrong.
Yours is an argument against drug laws and the War on Some Drugs (TM), not Joe's Jail.
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Shhh! He's making a leftist liberal commie pinko point -- don't cloud the issue with facts.
You're wrong. Taxpayer dollars paid in settling such a lawsuit in that particular county are limited to $1M. That's the deductible on Sherriff Joe's insurance policy.
I'd cite, but it's all over google and easy enough to confirm if you doubt it.
And, as we know, settling a lawsuit doesn't mean one is guilty (as you seem to imply) -- just that it's easier and cheaper to make it go away. Especially if you have insurance.
The site you got that allegation from has lots more unsubstantiated claims. But even it admits that the DOJ doesn't think Joe is in violation of the agreement (they have power to smack him down, you know?) Only the "Mothers Against Arpaio" claim that. ("According to MAA, Arpaio has not complied with any of those mandates for the last seven years.")
BTW, that site is sponsored by someone running against the Sherriff for office.
Yes, it is easily possible to die from 120F - dehydration and heat stroke are common causes.
Really? Or did you just make that up? How common? Apparently not very common in this case since you correctly (but reluctantly) point out:
I am not sure anyone has dies of such causes in Tent City, though (New Times would have published such a story if it had).
Correct. Not once.
It's only a matter of time, I suppose.
Is that faith, or are you just hoping?
You see, these tents have *no* air conditioning - not even a swamp cooler.
Oh my. No AC? Criminally inhumane that. Please -- lots of poor people in the South can't afford AC. I'd rather help them get it than prisoners.
Inside the tents, you have hot and stifling air (they are surplus military tents - heavy canvas things with little ventilation),
Sorta like our military has to use in the (hotter) Iraq desert. Good enough for them, too good for prisoners, IMHO.
outside, blinding sun and dirt with hardly any shade.
See previous comment.
Mix in 1000+ inmates and only a few (3-5, IIRC) guards and you have the making of a disaster.
Bullshit on the 1000:5 prisoner:guard ratio claim. That sherriff's not that stupid. Cite?
Now, I am not saying jails and prisons should be comfortable places - but the majority of people in Tent City are there awaiting trial - that is, this is a holding area for presumably innocent people.
I don't think so. The majority are doing time for convictions, but the sentences aren't long enough to send them to longer-term facilities. I think you're just making stuff up now.
These people (all people - including bona-fide convicted prisoners) have rights - among those rights are to be treated in a humane manner, not to be faced with "cruel and unusual" punishment.
Nothing cited is cruel nor unusual to me. What do you think is? No AC? Tents?
There is a reason Sheriff Joe's Tent City and jail system is on Amnesty International's list of most abusive prison systems worldwide (yeah, it ranks right up there with some dictatorship's prisons - hoo boy!).
More bullshit? Sherriff Joe is mentioned exactly once on Amnesty's site. I can find no such list of "most abusive prisons" (nor can I imagine how they might determine the winners of such a conest -- most unsubstantiated allegations? worst unsubstantiated allegations? The mind boggles.) Cite?
Sheriff Joe's antics have not been cheap for the taxpayer - I cannot recount how much taxpayer money is going out in the form of lawsuits the county has lost (somewhere around 15-20 million, IIRC).
You don't RC. They've lost 0 (that's ZERO) lawsuits. The settled some. But the insurance deductible is $1M (going up to $5M, supposedly.) How much more would AC, cable TV, movies, and expensive food for hundreds of thousands of prisoners cost? I'll let you do the math.
He is popular with the voters, though I can't imagine how, given the abuses his organization has doled out to the innocent, presumed innocent, and guilty alike
What abuses? I still see nothing wrong.
- not to mention his shady financial dealings, along with that prostitution sting f'up last year where it was found out his deputies were getting serviced by the women they were supposed to be arresting - leading to the County Attorney having to throw out all of the arrests (kinda difficult to prosecute such a case, dontcha know)...
Cite?
Arizona residents who vote for this man are either stupid, blind or both.
If only they could be as smart and observant as you.
Do you realize that there's nothing of substance in that "5i" story you linked? Unless you count unsubstantiated allegations from grieving family members.
I don't. They weren't there, and have insufficient evidence to back up their extraordinary claims.
I guess that explains the vague "many cases of crap" claim.
Colleges are not the exclusive path to a career in programming or engineering.
I'd grant the first, but argue the second. Unless you meant "software engineering."
Not to troll or bait flames, but most real engineering companies require a Bachelor's or better from an Abet accredited institution from new hires. I guess it's possible to start as a tech in the lab and work your way up (eventually experience is worth the same or more than a degree, it's just hard to get without the degree.)
Linux at some point could be good enough to run home PCs.
Oh, we can hope, right? Holy cow that's nonsense.
Can Linux really handle crucial areas such as security and e-mail?
Yeah, email is tough. Maybe if we study OutLook really hard, we can make something so great . . . sigh.
"I just want the decision to be based on facts, not religion," says Taylor. "People are saying, 'It's not Microsoft, so it must be great.' Tell us what Linux does that we can't do. Don't tell us you're deploying Linux just because you can."
Well, one of the answers is one of the "crucial areas" mentioned above. I bet you can guess which one.
Microsoft is actively sowing uncertainty and doubt among potential Linux customers over who, if anyone, owns the intellectual property behind open-source software.
What, no Fear?
At a recent gathering of venture capitalists Ballmer went so far as to suggest Microsoft might own intellectual property in Linux and assured the audience that Microsoft would pursue any violation of its own patents. Before he spoke, a fire alarm went off. "It was eerily symbolic," says a venture capitalist in attendance. "We all scattered." Microsoft denies this, and says it will not litigate.
Ruh roh.
Windows group chief James Allchin accuses Linux of being a cheap knockoff: "There's no innovation. Linux is still in the business of cloning existing technology." Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off, with programs still running. Searches will extend across all data like e-mail, photos, Word. "We're creating things," he says.
We hire folks from competitors who are under non-competes from thier previous employer fairly often (ASIC industry.) The contracts tend to stipulate that the emplyee can't take a similar position in a competing firm for X years.
So, if he/she was an engineer, we hire him/her as a "Marketer" and keep that title until the non-compete expires. Nevermind they might be doing some engineering while serving as a marketer. Good luck to the ex-employer in finding out exactly what they're doing at the new company.
Never heard of anyone having a problem with this plan.
Oh, and in CA (and other Right To Work states) non-competes are right out. Void. Unenforceable.
Anyone else freaked out by goatse being on the/. font page? Not a direct link, I know, but were the server not melted, you'd definitely have seen the goatse horrorshow images that are there.
And you'd be yucked out. But the repost of the article explaining the wireless goatse injection is +5 informative. That's weird too.
If you're confused (RIP goatse) see wikipedia.com and search slashdot.
Well, because I don't have two extra wifi cards sitting in a box. In fact I have but one and it's in use. At least, that is, until you send me one of yours. Then I will have two and you will have two (assuming you have another, since the two you mentioned are merely sitting in a box,) and I won't need the two USB wifi adapters that I don't have, and you won't have the extra wifi card that you don't need. See? Everyone wins that way. I'll email my shipping address . . .
Yes. The name is clever. Many have asked "don't they have duct tape in 2045?"
Of course the anwer is yes, but you don't have any when this particular shit hits this particular fan. Sorry. Life is hard. And it's much scarier this way!
But, if you're as scared as this guy or this guy's friends then I have I a deal* for you (*not a monorail.)
It's easier to install than this new duct tape mod, requires no file download, and works 100% of the time. You're not restricted to a smaller-beam, or to duct-taping your flashlight to small arms only. And there's no modified doom3 files to cause problems in multiplayer when cheat detectors check your files.
Ready for it?
You think I'm effing with you, don't you?
I'm not.
Pull down the console (ctrl+alt+~ -- now that's security through obscurity! I be you were expecting just ~ eh?) and enter:
r_gamma 2
If it's still too dim for your panties to hold your dump, up it to something closer to 3 (over 3 is meaningless.)
Still crying mama every time you hear "come one hurry!"? Ok, open up Mr. Console again and do a:
r_brightness 1.6
You can push that up a bit higher if your teeth are chipping each other, but it gets ugly fast.
If you don't want to do that every game, find
C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base\DoomConfig.cfg (or your equivalent in the case of non-standard install or other OS) and search/replace any existing settings of the above mentioned variables. Add them if they're not already there. Anything in DoomConfig.cfg gets executed on startup.
Be sure to use a nightlight and make sure mommy tucks you in, BTW.
And yes. There are monsters both under your bed and in your closet.
Yes, it makes sense -- space marines in 2045 should have duct tape and/or helmets with flashlights and/or nightvision and/or fucking-A genetically engineered cat-eye night-proof eyes-from-hell.
But that's not what this space marine happened to have handy when the shit hit the fan.
I saw that too. Skanky indeed, and part of the reason for several of my jabs at her (see my posting history for what I mean.)
Oddly, I found this by grep'ing "butt" on the dir I ran "while 0; wget -r http://www.aftab.com; end" on.
Judging from the pics I saw on her website (which you now can only find on google images under her name) I'd think her site would have a lot more "butt," but that one instance was it.
The force on the road is proportional to the mass of the vehicle (and the axles simply divide this force, assuming a balanced vehicle) so I don't see how damage would vary with the square of the mass (again, axles dividing, but this is simply an irrelevant coefficient.)
I'm sure you'll enlighten me as to how this quadratic relationship arises.
You are either utterly full of shit or my new best friend.
Please tell me how someone "writes off" $100k on their income taxes by buying an SUX^HV.
This, BTW, is the first time I've even vaguely considered for a second buying an SUV. But about half of -$100k would help me out a lot (just now trying to finish taxes before 8/15 deadline, and it's ugly.)
You better have details. And it better not include me having to buy a $1M vehicle to do it.
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That's the first reasonable argument I've seen in this thread. Other posts claim sadism, cruel and unusual punishment, inhumanity, etc. with no substantiation whatsoever. In contrast, you make a good point.
Unfortunately for Joe's Foes, your agument applies to all prisons and jails. Not just Joe's. Imprisoning people for victimless crimes such as drug use is wrong.
Yours is an argument against drug laws and the War on Some Drugs (TM), not Joe's Jail.
Shhh! He's making a leftist liberal commie pinko point -- don't cloud the issue with facts.
You insensitive clod!
You're wrong. Taxpayer dollars paid in settling such a lawsuit in that particular county are limited to $1M. That's the deductible on Sherriff Joe's insurance policy.
I'd cite, but it's all over google and easy enough to confirm if you doubt it.
And, as we know, settling a lawsuit doesn't mean one is guilty (as you seem to imply) -- just that it's easier and cheaper to make it go away. Especially if you have insurance.
So far it's a net gain for the community: zero lawsuits lost, less than 15 settled with an insurance deductible of $1M (total $15M).
Operating costs are down more than twice that annually. For many annum.
Yes, some may like the toughness. But it real;ly is cheaper too. Sorry!
The site you got that allegation from has lots more unsubstantiated claims. But even it admits that the DOJ doesn't think Joe is in violation of the agreement (they have power to smack him down, you know?) Only the "Mothers Against Arpaio" claim that. ("According to MAA, Arpaio has not complied with any of those mandates for the last seven years.")
BTW, that site is sponsored by someone running against the Sherriff for office.
Imagine that.
Yes, it is easily possible to die from 120F - dehydration and heat stroke are common causes.
Really? Or did you just make that up? How common? Apparently not very common in this case since you correctly (but reluctantly) point out:
I am not sure anyone has dies of such causes in Tent City, though (New Times would have published such a story if it had).
Correct. Not once.
It's only a matter of time, I suppose.
Is that faith, or are you just hoping?
You see, these tents have *no* air conditioning - not even a swamp cooler.
Oh my. No AC? Criminally inhumane that. Please -- lots of poor people in the South can't afford AC. I'd rather help them get it than prisoners.
Inside the tents, you have hot and stifling air (they are surplus military tents - heavy canvas things with little ventilation),
Sorta like our military has to use in the (hotter) Iraq desert. Good enough for them, too good for prisoners, IMHO.
outside, blinding sun and dirt with hardly any shade.
See previous comment.
Mix in 1000+ inmates and only a few (3-5, IIRC) guards and you have the making of a disaster.
Bullshit on the 1000:5 prisoner:guard ratio claim. That sherriff's not that stupid. Cite?
Now, I am not saying jails and prisons should be comfortable places - but the majority of people in Tent City are there awaiting trial - that is, this is a holding area for presumably innocent people.
I don't think so. The majority are doing time for convictions, but the sentences aren't long enough to send them to longer-term facilities. I think you're just making stuff up now.
These people (all people - including bona-fide convicted prisoners) have rights - among those rights are to be treated in a humane manner, not to be faced with "cruel and unusual" punishment.
Nothing cited is cruel nor unusual to me. What do you think is? No AC? Tents?
There is a reason Sheriff Joe's Tent City and jail system is on Amnesty International's list of most abusive prison systems worldwide (yeah, it ranks right up there with some dictatorship's prisons - hoo boy!).
More bullshit? Sherriff Joe is mentioned exactly once on Amnesty's site. I can find no such list of "most abusive prisons" (nor can I imagine how they might determine the winners of such a conest -- most unsubstantiated allegations? worst unsubstantiated allegations? The mind boggles.) Cite?
Sheriff Joe's antics have not been cheap for the taxpayer - I cannot recount how much taxpayer money is going out in the form of lawsuits the county has lost (somewhere around 15-20 million, IIRC).
You don't RC. They've lost 0 (that's ZERO) lawsuits. The settled some. But the insurance deductible is $1M (going up to $5M, supposedly.) How much more would AC, cable TV, movies, and expensive food for hundreds of thousands of prisoners cost? I'll let you do the math.
He is popular with the voters, though I can't imagine how, given the abuses his organization has doled out to the innocent, presumed innocent, and guilty alike
What abuses? I still see nothing wrong.
- not to mention his shady financial dealings, along with that prostitution sting f'up last year where it was found out his deputies were getting serviced by the women they were supposed to be arresting - leading to the County Attorney having to throw out all of the arrests (kinda difficult to prosecute such a case, dontcha know)...
Cite?
Arizona residents who vote for this man are either stupid, blind or both.
If only they could be as smart and observant as you.
Do you realize that there's nothing of substance in that "5i" story you linked? Unless you count unsubstantiated allegations from grieving family members.
I don't. They weren't there, and have insufficient evidence to back up their extraordinary claims.
I guess that explains the vague "many cases of crap" claim.
What part of that makes him a sadist in your eyes? Maybe you know more about him than I do, but none of that interview qualifies as sadism in my view.
I'm really curious.
Colleges are not the exclusive path to a career in programming or engineering.
I'd grant the first, but argue the second. Unless you meant "software engineering."
Not to troll or bait flames, but most real engineering companies require a Bachelor's or better from an Abet accredited institution from new hires. I guess it's possible to start as a tech in the lab and work your way up (eventually experience is worth the same or more than a degree, it's just hard to get without the degree.)
My $0.02.
Linux at some point could be good enough to run home PCs.
Oh, we can hope, right? Holy cow that's nonsense.
Can Linux really handle crucial areas such as security and e-mail?
Yeah, email is tough. Maybe if we study OutLook really hard, we can make something so great . . . sigh.
"I just want the decision to be based on facts, not religion," says Taylor. "People are saying, 'It's not Microsoft, so it must be great.' Tell us what Linux does that we can't do. Don't tell us you're deploying Linux just because you can."
Well, one of the answers is one of the "crucial areas" mentioned above. I bet you can guess which one.
Microsoft is actively sowing uncertainty and doubt among potential Linux customers over who, if anyone, owns the intellectual property behind open-source software.
What, no Fear?
At a recent gathering of venture capitalists Ballmer went so far as to suggest Microsoft might own intellectual property in Linux and assured the audience that Microsoft would pursue any violation of its own patents. Before he spoke, a fire alarm went off. "It was eerily symbolic," says a venture capitalist in attendance. "We all scattered." Microsoft denies this, and says it will not litigate.
Ruh roh.
Windows group chief James Allchin accuses Linux of being a cheap knockoff: "There's no innovation. Linux is still in the business of cloning existing technology." Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off, with programs still running. Searches will extend across all data like e-mail, photos, Word. "We're creating things," he says.
Undeserving of a reply.
We hire folks from competitors who are under non-competes from thier previous employer fairly often (ASIC industry.) The contracts tend to stipulate that the emplyee can't take a similar position in a competing firm for X years.
So, if he/she was an engineer, we hire him/her as a "Marketer" and keep that title until the non-compete expires. Nevermind they might be doing some engineering while serving as a marketer. Good luck to the ex-employer in finding out exactly what they're doing at the new company.
Never heard of anyone having a problem with this plan.
Oh, and in CA (and other Right To Work states) non-competes are right out. Void. Unenforceable.
Anyone else freaked out by goatse being on the /. font page? Not a direct link, I know, but were the server not melted, you'd definitely have seen the goatse horrorshow images that are there.
And you'd be yucked out. But the repost of the article explaining the wireless goatse injection is +5 informative. That's weird too.
If you're confused (RIP goatse) see wikipedia.com and search slashdot.
Well, because I don't have two extra wifi cards sitting in a box. In fact I have but one and it's in use. At least, that is, until you send me one of yours. Then I will have two and you will have two (assuming you have another, since the two you mentioned are merely sitting in a box,) and I won't need the two USB wifi adapters that I don't have, and you won't have the extra wifi card that you don't need. See? Everyone wins that way. I'll email my shipping address . . .
You've an MS in organic chemistry but you work as an Information Systems Coordinator? You must be an awesome chemist.
Oh, but you do spew lots of bullshit that is subsequently squashed by informed, sane replies.
You're a sad fuck man.
. . . but you need two wifi cards one on machine to use it.
Try this.
:)
Pussy
I'm having a blast at ultra-quality 1024 with my 5900Ultra. Amazing graphics, and very solid.
Yes. The name is clever. Many have asked "don't they have duct tape in 2045?"
:)
Of course the anwer is yes, but you don't have any when this particular shit hits this particular fan. Sorry. Life is hard. And it's much scarier this way!
But, if you're as scared as this guy or this guy's friends then I have I a deal* for you (*not a monorail.)
It's easier to install than this new duct tape mod, requires no file download, and works 100% of the time. You're not restricted to a smaller-beam, or to duct-taping your flashlight to small arms only. And there's no modified doom3 files to cause problems in multiplayer when cheat detectors check your files.
Ready for it?
You think I'm effing with you, don't you?
I'm not.
Pull down the console (ctrl+alt+~ -- now that's security through obscurity! I be you were expecting just ~ eh?) and enter:
r_gamma 2
If it's still too dim for your panties to hold your dump, up it to something closer to 3 (over 3 is meaningless.)
Still crying mama every time you hear "come one hurry!"? Ok, open up Mr. Console again and do a:
r_brightness 1.6
You can push that up a bit higher if your teeth are chipping each other, but it gets ugly fast.
If you don't want to do that every game, find C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base\DoomConfig.cfg (or your equivalent in the case of non-standard install or other OS) and search/replace any existing settings of the above mentioned variables. Add them if they're not already there. Anything in DoomConfig.cfg gets executed on startup.
Be sure to use a nightlight and make sure mommy tucks you in, BTW.
And yes. There are monsters both under your bed and in your closet.
Bwahaha!
I agree.
I will not install this mod.
Yes, it makes sense -- space marines in 2045 should have duct tape and/or helmets with flashlights and/or nightvision and/or fucking-A genetically engineered cat-eye night-proof eyes-from-hell.
But that's not what this space marine happened to have handy when the shit hit the fan.
And I like it that way!
What's a morg?
:)
;)
Oh, and also: pussy!
Er, mod this down if you must but, er ah, whatever
I saw that too. Skanky indeed, and part of the reason for several of my jabs at her (see my posting history for what I mean.)
;)
Oddly, I found this by grep'ing "butt" on the dir I ran "while 0; wget -r http://www.aftab.com; end" on.
Judging from the pics I saw on her website (which you now can only find on google images under her name) I'd think her site would have a lot more "butt," but that one instance was it.
That AC wasn't me, but I wish it were.
Oh, and as a member of the National Associations to Advance Fat Acceptance I'm offended by your being offended by my use of the proud, enabling, unashamed term "chubby."
It's even better than "fat!" How can you deride chubby you skinny diet-slave?!
eduation?!
Are you kidding?
No. You're not.
Oh my.
Wait, I'd expect this from an AC, but you're logged in.
That's the most humiliating thing I've ever seen.
Really.
The force on the road is proportional to the mass of the vehicle (and the axles simply divide this force, assuming a balanced vehicle) so I don't see how damage would vary with the square of the mass (again, axles dividing, but this is simply an irrelevant coefficient.)
I'm sure you'll enlighten me as to how this quadratic relationship arises.
I'm waiting.
Wait -- what?!
You are either utterly full of shit or my new best friend.
Please tell me how someone "writes off" $100k on their income taxes by buying an SUX^HV.
This, BTW, is the first time I've even vaguely considered for a second buying an SUV. But about half of -$100k would help me out a lot (just now trying to finish taxes before 8/15 deadline, and it's ugly.)
You better have details. And it better not include me having to buy a $1M vehicle to do it.
I'm waiting -- start typing!