If Linux becomes king of the hill, where will innovation lead? Where will it come from?
It will come from those who need it. IBM : SMP & NUMA, for example. Or it might come from those who are inspired: Emacs, LilyPond, Ian Clarke's Freenet, Perl, etc..
For most daily business stuff, what innovation do you need? What useful things does your spreadsheet do today that it didn't do 15 years ago? And your word processor? WYSIWYG was neat, but I could print formatted and 'typeset' documents even before that.
Plus, even if open source 'takes over the world' there will still be proprietary software.
Speaking of Mozilla, MozillaFirebird (sometimes pronounced "Phoenix") changed icons for 0.6.1. The icon is now a ball of flames, and the throbber looks for all the world like a Quake icon to me but is apparently a stylistic bird in flight. I guess it's still better than the red dinosaur or star.
It looks like an old abandonded project last updated in November 2000, but you can get the source from Debian's an package page. Should be easy to add to Gentoo. (Anything I don't know how to do must be easy, right?)
I found it by seraching Debian's packages for "anagram". It doesn't appear to be in Freshmeat.
In that case, what about Via? I intuit that their admittedly tiny C3 market share has been increasing. I wonder how their numbers compare to Transmeta.
(Trying to pull up Cyrix to see if they still make anything x86, but the page isn't loading.)
If we had a different instruction set, would we really benefit?
My limited understanding is that some of the architechture/instruction set of x86 makes it difficult to virtualize. Better virtualization could really benefit us--the Slashdot geek crowd--today. Look at VMWare.
When I was out of IT work and took a retail sales job two years ago I was astounded at the number of people buying audio CD-Rs. I told them they didn't need them and that I used regular cheap data CD-Rs and they worked fine. They didn't believe me and paid several times more for the audio CD-Rs. Some believed they sounded better, and some just didn't believe that the data CDs would work.
A few did own recorders that required audio CD-Rs, but as far as I could tell they were in the minority of audio CD-R buyers.
IIRC, the labeling on the audio CD-Rs did imply they reproduced sound better. Heh.
Small correction: NT Server came with a DOS client on the CDs. I believe it only had the nonroutable NetBEUI protocol at first, though, and it seems to me like it was always more difficult to figure out the right network driver to use with it as compared to the Novell client. I don't recall if it had any login scripting capability like Novell.
These companies, which on certain fields compete against each other, are willing to go in the same direction, isn't it weird?
It's not weird at all. What these companies have done is embraced a piece of software that can't be forcibly pulled out from under them. For an x86 example, Microsoft has consistently been ulitmately destructive to the more successful vendors that run on it (WP, Lotus 1-2-3, Citrix, Quicken, Netscape, co-dev deal with IBM OS/2, etc.). With open source they simultaneously cut costs, improve their PR image, retain control over the code as used for them and have public code review/debugging/contributions.
I'd personally like to see Novell hire the SAMBA team. It would be pretty cool to see them take back the file and print server space from MS using their name on OSS.
As the AC posted, Novell already has SMB.
I wonder if Novell has ideas about offering Linux clients as alternatives to MS. That could be cool. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be a big push at first, though; they'll have to quietly offer it as a cheap client option and let it grow slowly.
I actually called them back somewhere between 1990 and 1992. There was an automated voice that frequently announced the average hold times...it was about 45 minutes. I don't recall what my problem was or if they solved it, so maybe it was just one of those dreams....
AOL made it easy to access Usenet; they made the interface the same as their proprietary boards which AOLers were used to. Thus began the deep-seated hatred against "me too" posts, "AOLers" and such. Admittedly there weren't any indexing, rating or searching features that I know of; it just enabled 'the masses' access to what was a geek-only community.
If they can clue the masses into Usenet in such a way that users think that they need Microsoft software in order to do Usenet, they'll control millions of people's access to Usenet, and to some degree Usenet itself.
If that were true, AOL would've controlled Usenet a long time ago.
Furthermore, MSN is the default startup homepage on 90% or 95% or whatever of browsers, and yet Google rules the web search.
In one of the linked articles, the second in the story I think, they indicate that cast members' Pal Mickeys might be able to trigger other Pal Mickeys to say things. (The reviewer's doll asked if he knew how to say hello in French in reaction to a French cast member squeezing his doll's hand.) That makes a lot of sense to be able to have cast members trigger special events. Why should all the transmitters be stationary?
But I don't know if all Pal Mickeys have that capability or if the cast members' PMs have different innards. And I infer that these things' memories are already stuffed and guess that they may have trouble actually managing conversations, except for perhaps one telling the joke and others delivering the punchline.
That is freakin' cool. I do hate the Cygwin installer. I'm used to apt, but everyone seems to love portage, so I'll probably give it a try. (Unless someone ported apt to Cygwin already.)
I use the Cygwin X server sometimes, too. I haven't bothered to get the rootless version working, but that will probably be cool.
Of course your developers use Linux at home. No it doesn't count.:-)
Cygwin goes on every PC I touch. I can't do my job without it.
That's cool. I've thought about doing that at work as you can do a whole lot of useful stuff with sshd running as a service:-). You can even run cmd.exe and have a remote cmd shell! (Although some things don't work well in it, especially ANSI colors.)
Also the native Unix tools from the GNU Win people.
Why both? I haven't bothered installing GNU Win stuff because all the Cygwin tools work natively under Windows once the Cygwin DLL is installed and the path includes %cygwin%/bin. What do you get from GNU Win that you don't get from Cygwin (or vice versa; I haven't tried GNU Win yet.)
I have used some DJGPP tools on PCs where I don't have Cygwin installed. Specifically unzip32.exe, gzip.exe and tar.exe. Very handy; who needs WinZip anymore? (Actually I use the free Power Archiver when I want a GUI zipper.)
I can see how security might be lax. When I was new to Linux I enabled everything whether I needed it or not. I figured I'd get around to playing with bind, sendmail and ftpd sooner or later. Everyone I know who's tried Linux has only dipped his toe in, so to speak.
Now I know more and have played enough that I disable everything except what I need, make sure it's secure and then put up a firewall just to be sure. But heck, just the other day I realized I hadn't apt-get update'd and apt-get upgrade'd in a couple of months. Oops. I also had weak passwords until about a month ago.
I'm in a non-tech company, and the Linux penetration is well below 1%. Only one desktop--a dual-boot laptop--as far as I know (except when I boot up KNOPPIX), but I have three rouge servers of my own. (Squid, Nessus, nmap and Snort are my friends.)
I also have two Cygwin installs, but they're my workstations, not user PCs. Anyone seeing those on desktops yet?
In this article the guy chose RedHat. If you don't care for commercial support, why would you choose RedHat over Debian or Slackware? Especially if security is a concern.
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If Linux becomes king of the hill, where will innovation lead? Where will it come from?
It will come from those who need it. IBM : SMP & NUMA, for example. Or it might come from those who are inspired: Emacs, LilyPond, Ian Clarke's Freenet, Perl, etc..
For most daily business stuff, what innovation do you need? What useful things does your spreadsheet do today that it didn't do 15 years ago? And your word processor? WYSIWYG was neat, but I could print formatted and 'typeset' documents even before that.
Plus, even if open source 'takes over the world' there will still be proprietary software.
Speaking of Mozilla, MozillaFirebird (sometimes pronounced "Phoenix") changed icons for 0.6.1. The icon is now a ball of flames, and the throbber looks for all the world like a Quake icon to me but is apparently a stylistic bird in flight. I guess it's still better than the red dinosaur or star.
Or perhaps the designer thought it too obnoxious to wrap the stream around the circumference of the shirt. :-)
Or perhaps he really meant to say lSsadhtoO.GR
I'm not even going to try least-significant bit first.
I wish I were funny enough to keep the nested +5 Funny thread going.
It looks like an old abandonded project last updated in November 2000, but you can get the source from Debian's an package page. Should be easy to add to Gentoo. (Anything I don't know how to do must be easy, right?)
I found it by seraching Debian's packages for "anagram". It doesn't appear to be in Freshmeat.
In that case, what about Via? I intuit that their admittedly tiny C3 market share has been increasing. I wonder how their numbers compare to Transmeta.
(Trying to pull up Cyrix to see if they still make anything x86, but the page isn't loading.)
$an "amd transmeta athlon"
/usr/games.
This assumes you have an installed. Debian puts it in
I got 1,495,995 combinations! Unfortunately you have to weed through them to see what might make sense:
Rot Manhattan damsel
Damn anal thermostat
Matt marshaled no ant
Toad rant at helmsman
Tenth NASA marmot lad
Now to make sure AMD gets in there:
$an -c amd "amd transmeta athlon"
Re: AMD lost Manhattan
Last 10, AMD Marathon
AMD Earthman lost tan!
No Hamlet rants at AMD
AMD harlots met an ant
Darn, not enough "s"es to make Slashdot anagrams out of that phrase.
If we had a different instruction set, would we really benefit?
My limited understanding is that some of the architechture/instruction set of x86 makes it difficult to virtualize. Better virtualization could really benefit us--the Slashdot geek crowd--today. Look at VMWare.
Never call anything Freenet. It is too generic a term and is used for several different commercial and nonprofit organizations and projects.
It's much worse than Firebird.
If nothing else, realize that it messes up people who search for you on Google because of all the @freenet.com email addresses.
When I was out of IT work and took a retail sales job two years ago I was astounded at the number of people buying audio CD-Rs. I told them they didn't need them and that I used regular cheap data CD-Rs and they worked fine. They didn't believe me and paid several times more for the audio CD-Rs. Some believed they sounded better, and some just didn't believe that the data CDs would work.
A few did own recorders that required audio CD-Rs, but as far as I could tell they were in the minority of audio CD-R buyers.
IIRC, the labeling on the audio CD-Rs did imply they reproduced sound better. Heh.
Duuuuuuuuuuuude. :-(
Small correction: NT Server came with a DOS client on the CDs. I believe it only had the nonroutable NetBEUI protocol at first, though, and it seems to me like it was always more difficult to figure out the right network driver to use with it as compared to the Novell client. I don't recall if it had any login scripting capability like Novell.
These companies, which on certain fields compete against each other, are willing to go in the same direction, isn't it weird?
It's not weird at all. What these companies have done is embraced a piece of software that can't be forcibly pulled out from under them. For an x86 example, Microsoft has consistently been ulitmately destructive to the more successful vendors that run on it (WP, Lotus 1-2-3, Citrix, Quicken, Netscape, co-dev deal with IBM OS/2, etc.). With open source they simultaneously cut costs, improve their PR image, retain control over the code as used for them and have public code review/debugging/contributions.
I'd personally like to see Novell hire the SAMBA team. It would be pretty cool to see them take back the file and print server space from MS using their name on OSS.
As the AC posted, Novell already has SMB.
I wonder if Novell has ideas about offering Linux clients as alternatives to MS. That could be cool. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be a big push at first, though; they'll have to quietly offer it as a cheap client option and let it grow slowly.
Has anybody ever witnessed this phenomenon?
I actually called them back somewhere between 1990 and 1992. There was an automated voice that frequently announced the average hold times...it was about 45 minutes. I don't recall what my problem was or if they solved it, so maybe it was just one of those dreams....
AOL made it easy to access Usenet; they made the interface the same as their proprietary boards which AOLers were used to. Thus began the deep-seated hatred against "me too" posts, "AOLers" and such. Admittedly there weren't any indexing, rating or searching features that I know of; it just enabled 'the masses' access to what was a geek-only community.
they had better [effing] leave 'html' and 'rich text' out of their news reader
.doc formatting instead. :-(
Good News: They probably will.
Bad News: They will probably push MS Word
This has been information from out of my ass. Thank you.
If they can clue the masses into Usenet in such a way that users think that they need Microsoft software in order to do Usenet, they'll control millions of people's access to Usenet, and to some degree Usenet itself.
If that were true, AOL would've controlled Usenet a long time ago.
Furthermore, MSN is the default startup homepage on 90% or 95% or whatever of browsers, and yet Google rules the web search.
In one of the linked articles, the second in the story I think, they indicate that cast members' Pal Mickeys might be able to trigger other Pal Mickeys to say things. (The reviewer's doll asked if he knew how to say hello in French in reaction to a French cast member squeezing his doll's hand.) That makes a lot of sense to be able to have cast members trigger special events. Why should all the transmitters be stationary?
But I don't know if all Pal Mickeys have that capability or if the cast members' PMs have different innards. And I infer that these things' memories are already stuffed and guess that they may have trouble actually managing conversations, except for perhaps one telling the joke and others delivering the punchline.
And using the word "fuck" as the third word he typed is an indication that he didn't last long there.
Article : "the only businesses that mutual funds are not allowed to hold shares in are mutual funds."
Somebody better tell that to Vanguard quick!
That is freakin' cool. I do hate the Cygwin installer. I'm used to apt, but everyone seems to love portage, so I'll probably give it a try. (Unless someone ported apt to Cygwin already.)
:-)
I use the Cygwin X server sometimes, too. I haven't bothered to get the rootless version working, but that will probably be cool.
Of course your developers use Linux at home. No it doesn't count.
Cygwin goes on every PC I touch. I can't do my job without it.
:-). You can even run cmd.exe and have a remote cmd shell! (Although some things don't work well in it, especially ANSI colors.)
That's cool. I've thought about doing that at work as you can do a whole lot of useful stuff with sshd running as a service
Also the native Unix tools from the GNU Win people.
Why both? I haven't bothered installing GNU Win stuff because all the Cygwin tools work natively under Windows once the Cygwin DLL is installed and the path includes %cygwin%/bin. What do you get from GNU Win that you don't get from Cygwin (or vice versa; I haven't tried GNU Win yet.)
I have used some DJGPP tools on PCs where I don't have Cygwin installed. Specifically unzip32.exe, gzip.exe and tar.exe. Very handy; who needs WinZip anymore? (Actually I use the free Power Archiver when I want a GUI zipper.)
I can see how security might be lax. When I was new to Linux I enabled everything whether I needed it or not. I figured I'd get around to playing with bind, sendmail and ftpd sooner or later. Everyone I know who's tried Linux has only dipped his toe in, so to speak.
Now I know more and have played enough that I disable everything except what I need, make sure it's secure and then put up a firewall just to be sure. But heck, just the other day I realized I hadn't apt-get update'd and apt-get upgrade'd in a couple of months. Oops. I also had weak passwords until about a month ago.
I'm in a non-tech company, and the Linux penetration is well below 1%. Only one desktop--a dual-boot laptop--as far as I know (except when I boot up KNOPPIX), but I have three rouge servers of my own. (Squid, Nessus, nmap and Snort are my friends.)
I also have two Cygwin installs, but they're my workstations, not user PCs. Anyone seeing those on desktops yet?
In this article the guy chose RedHat. If you don't care for commercial support, why would you choose RedHat over Debian or Slackware? Especially if security is a concern.