If you want people to take your comments seriously, you probably shouldn't hold someones education (or lack of same) against them.
;)
(yes yes, we all know people who's brains filled to capacity around the time they got those letters, but just as not all college dropouts are worthless, so too are all people of letters. )
Thank you for agreeing with my point, but coming to a diffrent conclusion. As far as developing for all systems... Does it really matter? can you really tell me 'all coders are created equal'? Isn't it more logical to conclude the majority of development is done on one system, and then 'ported' to the others (why else do we have portable code?). Most coders would probably aggree a native version is always going to take more advantage of that systems abilities than a simple port.
It doesn't really matter in this case, however.
(shrug) As I tried to point out, the results are only relevent if you are using Lyris' software, hence my conclusion that this is a comercial, not a test. They even say, right in the article, that this is a result of testing customers have asked for so they know which platform is best suited for THIER apps. The results are wrapped up in something that is guarenteed to cause controversy at the 'religous' level. I say, well done to the marketing weenies.
I read this a couple of weeks back when a linux-centric friend sent it to me... my main observation: This is Obviously a comercial masquerading as a 'test'. When the 'device' being used to do this so called 'benchmark' is a software application written by the testers for something else, there is nothing else to call it. Maybe the title of the article is a bit misleading, the meat clearly says all they are doing is showing which OS they have optimized thier application for. They then use that as the FLAWED basis for determining which OS is 'best'? Give me a break.
I think it was Einstein that postulated that setting off a nuke in the open air could possibly light off the entire atmosphere, rendering the entire earth un-inhabitable... Amazing what people will try if there is a war on...
It is in fact a piece of paper, just like an MSCE... the diffrence is, an MBA is a membership card into 'the club', whereas an MSCE is simply good for framing or lineing bird cages...
Yup, this is just like 'second hand smoke' isn't it? Your right to swear a blue streak in public ends where me and mine's ears begin? Most people consider it common courtesy and 'good manners' to respect the sesibilities (sp?) of those around them. Those that do not, are generally treated as a menace to society and not tolerated. Like it or not, (to those of you folks who would 'dis' this AC for his/her comments) there are certain things you can't do, and remain a part of the society in which you currently participate in.
Sorry, thats the 'price' you have to pay if you want access to the technology, movies and P0rn our society makes. Those that can't or won't follow these simple rules will get no sympathy from me.
And to the AC: IQ has nothing to do with swearing. Some of the smartest people on the planet will swear a a string so long and filthy, if they think it is called for, to make even the horniest sailor blush 4 shades of red.
I would go further to say, a 'law' on swearing should be completely unnecessary. You proved that yourself, by having these fellows ejected from the store. People in general simply need to not tolerate it. That is a much higher form of 'law' than anything you will find written in a law book somewhere.
From ISC's Home page:
ISC BIND
BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) is an implementation of the Domain Name System (DNS) protocols and provides an openly redistributable reference implementation of the major components of the Domain Name System, including:
a Domain Name System server (named)
a Domain Name System resolver library
tools for verifying the proper operation of the DNS server
The BIND DNS Server is used on the vast majority of name serving machines on the Internet, providing a robust and stable architecture on top of which an organization's naming architecture can be built. The resolver library included in the BIND distribution provides the standard APIs for translation between domain names and Internet addresses and is intended to be linked with applications requiring name service.
The old 'Us vs Them' Mentality is the 1st sign your company is going down the tubes...
Back in my days of 'on call', the engineers/SEs had the option to either take a day off (during normal business hours, your still on call) the week they were on call, or get a day with pay.
In either instance, there was always SOME kind of compensation. As soon as 'enlightened, experienced' managment took over, this practice was quickly halted, followed by the Brite Sizing of the company.
I notice today they finaly filed for chapter 11. There is a god.
This will NOT directly affrect your packets. The reporter seems to not really understand what this thing does.
At BEST this will be used as a junction switch for a bunch of opticly connected routers/switches as an 'external' switch fabric. This idea goes well with the way most of the switch vendors are attacking the scalability problems that come with VLOI (Very Large Optical Interfaces).
The only reason the 'fast switching' is important, is in case one of the optical systems that are using this cross-connect fails, then we switch over to the back up with a minimal loss of internal data.
As long as there are people that want an OS designed specificly for thier needs, *BSD will never, ever go away. It is designed to impress you, it isn't designed to be cool, it isn't designed to gain marketshare. If I were to compare OSs to race cars, I would say *BSD = Group 2 Rally Cars, MS=NASCAR, and Linux = Outlaws!. Although, if things keep going the way they are going, MS and Linux are really starting to fall into the same category.
WOW! Thats amazing! Just to give a contrasting experience:
I am glad I didn't have those kinds of problems with my ISP 3 or 4 years ago. running 5 FBSD Pentiums NFS mounting 2 DEC Alpha Servers to handle mail and web services for about 15k isp subs... (ohh, and the other 20 or so FBSD machines running independant web servers, admin servers, kerberos and RADIUS, and the alpha pager system. We put a limit on virtual web servers when apache finally supported them to 200 per machine... what a money maker!)
Even manged to get NIS working properly between the DECs and the BSD machines.
I also remember convincing (by way of example) most of DalNet that using linux was a silly idea compared to the number of clients they could get on FBSD. Same for our local EFnet node. After DAYS of tweaking linux, they managed to get up to 700 sim. connects, stock FBSD install went to 1000 without any problems... irc.phoenix.net is still there, if I am not mistaken.)
I personally use an old P100 as my Samba server here at the house for MP3s, never noticed any skips even with 3 machines activly using the share. (of course, I havn't touched that machine since I installed it a year and a half ago, it is still running 3.something)
Building from source insures it is going to work with the way MY system is setup. I think most of us that build sources also had bad experiences with some of the early attempts to do binary package Quality Control.
I guess it comes down to the: 'I KNOW this will work, and I have the kick ass machine, so I will fire up 10 compiles and come back in an hour to a finished job' rather than the 'hmm, some of these damn binarys are staticly linked and some are dynamicly linked and OH MY GHOD I HAVE TO START OVER!'
Give us a break!
The real reason the doc cited was 'information overload'. I recall hearing a story about one poor fellow in a cisco training class. After 2 days of learning the ins and outs of cisco IOS and routing, he held his head between his hands and left the room crying 'BUFFER OVERFLOW! BUFFER OVERFLOW!'
Never before in the recorded history of man has the ability to view information exceeded man's ability to deal with it. Until the information age, that is. If we could just delete all the comercials from life, I'll bet people could 'cope' a lot better too!
Can you explain, in some detail, the overall goals of the BSDs you particpate in?
Please try and direct your answer to people who continue to proclaim that *BSD is dying, and point at some made up marketing numbers.
The easist way to solve this is to not patronize companies that rely exclusivly on this hoax of a credit report value.
After being turned down for a car loan, I want to a smaller bank, explained my problem to them, and they approved me for a loan on the spot. And it was at a cheaper rate than the 'big bank' was planning on 'giving me' (Like they were doing me a favor! Arogant Bastards!)
Smaller institutions are more likely to actually READ your credit report, and give you a chance to explain why something is messed up. These places want your business. Let the big banks have thier procedures. It will end up costing them customers. At the rate things are going, they are going to start getting negative credit reports on people who have speeding tickets! When they stop writing loans, you can bet they will change thier tune!
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If you want people to take your comments seriously, you probably shouldn't hold someones education (or lack of same) against them.
;)
(yes yes, we all know people who's brains filled to capacity around the time they got those letters, but just as not all college dropouts are worthless, so too are all people of letters. )
LOL Well said sir!
ROFLMAO!
Thank you for agreeing with my point, but coming to a diffrent conclusion. As far as developing for all systems... Does it really matter? can you really tell me 'all coders are created equal'? Isn't it more logical to conclude the majority of development is done on one system, and then 'ported' to the others (why else do we have portable code?). Most coders would probably aggree a native version is always going to take more advantage of that systems abilities than a simple port.
It doesn't really matter in this case, however.
(shrug) As I tried to point out, the results are only relevent if you are using Lyris' software, hence my conclusion that this is a comercial, not a test. They even say, right in the article, that this is a result of testing customers have asked for so they know which platform is best suited for THIER apps. The results are wrapped up in something that is guarenteed to cause controversy at the 'religous' level. I say, well done to the marketing weenies.
I read this a couple of weeks back when a linux-centric friend sent it to me... my main observation: This is Obviously a comercial masquerading as a 'test'. When the 'device' being used to do this so called 'benchmark' is a software application written by the testers for something else, there is nothing else to call it. Maybe the title of the article is a bit misleading, the meat clearly says all they are doing is showing which OS they have optimized thier application for. They then use that as the FLAWED basis for determining which OS is 'best'? Give me a break.
I think it was Einstein that postulated that setting off a nuke in the open air could possibly light off the entire atmosphere, rendering the entire earth un-inhabitable... Amazing what people will try if there is a war on...
It is in fact a piece of paper, just like an MSCE... the diffrence is, an MBA is a membership card into 'the club', whereas an MSCE is simply good for framing or lineing bird cages...
Yup, this is just like 'second hand smoke' isn't it? Your right to swear a blue streak in public ends where me and mine's ears begin? Most people consider it common courtesy and 'good manners' to respect the sesibilities (sp?) of those around them. Those that do not, are generally treated as a menace to society and not tolerated. Like it or not, (to those of you folks who would 'dis' this AC for his/her comments) there are certain things you can't do, and remain a part of the society in which you currently participate in.
Sorry, thats the 'price' you have to pay if you want access to the technology, movies and P0rn our society makes. Those that can't or won't follow these simple rules will get no sympathy from me.
And to the AC: IQ has nothing to do with swearing. Some of the smartest people on the planet will swear a a string so long and filthy, if they think it is called for, to make even the horniest sailor blush 4 shades of red.
I would go further to say, a 'law' on swearing should be completely unnecessary. You proved that yourself, by having these fellows ejected from the store. People in general simply need to not tolerate it. That is a much higher form of 'law' than anything you will find written in a law book somewhere.
I don't get it, what are you trying to say? I must be dumber than you think....
Ok, so maybe it isn't, but at least I made you look! Honestly, the things people do to entertain and amuse themselves...
If there was ever a use for 'Gesture Recognition', PS is the platform for it.
To me, this is proof of what I have said ever since being introduced to Intel based Unix/Unix look-alikes : Linux for fun, BSD for work!
From ISC's Home page:
ISC BIND
BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) is an implementation of the Domain Name System (DNS) protocols and provides an openly redistributable reference implementation of the major components of the Domain Name System, including:
a Domain Name System server (named)
a Domain Name System resolver library
tools for verifying the proper operation of the DNS server
The BIND DNS Server is used on the vast majority of name serving machines on the Internet, providing a robust and stable architecture on top of which an organization's naming architecture can be built. The resolver library included in the BIND distribution provides the standard APIs for translation between domain names and Internet addresses and is intended to be linked with applications requiring name service.
That is too funny!
nice job, I needed a humor injection this AM...
mod up!
The old 'Us vs Them' Mentality is the 1st sign your company is going down the tubes...
Back in my days of 'on call', the engineers/SEs had the option to either take a day off (during normal business hours, your still on call) the week they were on call, or get a day with pay.
In either instance, there was always SOME kind of compensation. As soon as 'enlightened, experienced' managment took over, this practice was quickly halted, followed by the Brite Sizing of the company.
I notice today they finaly filed for chapter 11. There is a god.
Well, I am a Nortel employee and I use Contivity (Nortel's VPN client...)
This will NOT directly affrect your packets. The reporter seems to not really understand what this thing does.
At BEST this will be used as a junction switch for a bunch of opticly connected routers/switches as an 'external' switch fabric. This idea goes well with the way most of the switch vendors are attacking the scalability problems that come with VLOI (Very Large Optical Interfaces).
The only reason the 'fast switching' is important, is in case one of the optical systems that are using this cross-connect fails, then we switch over to the back up with a minimal loss of internal data.
Other than that, it is pretty much useless...
when the mainstream speaks of VoIP, they mean telephone appliance to telephone appliance type voice, not PC to PC.
Automatic Position Reporting Systems are easily available. just check out
Aprs.Org
I sent this in last July-ish... This was on the IPv6 mailing list back then...
Must be a slow day for slashdot...
As long as there are people that want an OS designed specificly for thier needs, *BSD will never, ever go away. It is designed to impress you, it isn't designed to be cool, it isn't designed to gain marketshare. If I were to compare OSs to race cars, I would say *BSD = Group 2 Rally Cars, MS=NASCAR, and Linux = Outlaws!. Although, if things keep going the way they are going, MS and Linux are really starting to fall into the same category.
WOW! Thats amazing! Just to give a contrasting experience:
I am glad I didn't have those kinds of problems with my ISP 3 or 4 years ago. running 5 FBSD Pentiums NFS mounting 2 DEC Alpha Servers to handle mail and web services for about 15k isp subs... (ohh, and the other 20 or so FBSD machines running independant web servers, admin servers, kerberos and RADIUS, and the alpha pager system. We put a limit on virtual web servers when apache finally supported them to 200 per machine... what a money maker!)
Even manged to get NIS working properly between the DECs and the BSD machines.
I also remember convincing (by way of example) most of DalNet that using linux was a silly idea compared to the number of clients they could get on FBSD. Same for our local EFnet node. After DAYS of tweaking linux, they managed to get up to 700 sim. connects, stock FBSD install went to 1000 without any problems... irc.phoenix.net is still there, if I am not mistaken.)
I personally use an old P100 as my Samba server here at the house for MP3s, never noticed any skips even with 3 machines activly using the share. (of course, I havn't touched that machine since I installed it a year and a half ago, it is still running 3.something)
Maybe something is broke in 4.2?
Building from source insures it is going to work with the way MY system is setup. I think most of us that build sources also had bad experiences with some of the early attempts to do binary package Quality Control.
I guess it comes down to the: 'I KNOW this will work, and I have the kick ass machine, so I will fire up 10 compiles and come back in an hour to a finished job' rather than the 'hmm, some of these damn binarys are staticly linked and some are dynamicly linked and OH MY GHOD I HAVE TO START OVER!'
Xfree 4.1 works good with my Geforce 2 :> That was my last complaint!
Give us a break!
The real reason the doc cited was 'information overload'. I recall hearing a story about one poor fellow in a cisco training class. After 2 days of learning the ins and outs of cisco IOS and routing, he held his head between his hands and left the room crying 'BUFFER OVERFLOW! BUFFER OVERFLOW!'
Never before in the recorded history of man has the ability to view information exceeded man's ability to deal with it. Until the information age, that is. If we could just delete all the comercials from life, I'll bet people could 'cope' a lot better too!
Can you explain, in some detail, the overall goals of the BSDs you particpate in?
Please try and direct your answer to people who continue to proclaim that *BSD is dying, and point at some made up marketing numbers.
The easist way to solve this is to not patronize companies that rely exclusivly on this hoax of a credit report value.
After being turned down for a car loan, I want to a smaller bank, explained my problem to them, and they approved me for a loan on the spot. And it was at a cheaper rate than the 'big bank' was planning on 'giving me' (Like they were doing me a favor! Arogant Bastards!)
Smaller institutions are more likely to actually READ your credit report, and give you a chance to explain why something is messed up. These places want your business. Let the big banks have thier procedures. It will end up costing them customers. At the rate things are going, they are going to start getting negative credit reports on people who have speeding tickets! When they stop writing loans, you can bet they will change thier tune!