Umm no, it's not that complicated. People just needed a word to describe games downloaded and the consensus word became "digital". It is NOT a reference to "digital phonorecord delivery"
You have this annoying habit of reading to much into things and overcomplicating things...stop that.
the places with only cellular and satellite internet (and WISP) would be outside of city/town limits, wouldn't they. Even in rural counties, the majority of people live within the towns of those counties and thusly have regular high speed internet.
While there are a lot of those "cellular/satellite/WISP" only places, they actually have very few people living in them even in rural areas.
And why are you so focused on this edge case? Aren't you a townie yourself? And also if it has been some time since you "last checked" you need to check again. You're VERY prone to relying on outdated information for your obsessions with edge cases.
From what I understand, both the current XBox and PS require an internet connection to even play single player games.
Your understanding would be incorrect. For the PS4 it works like this. There are Primary and secondary PS4's. One's first PS4 is automatically the primary now, though if you have more than one you can choose which one is Primary.
On Secondary PS4's, a user needs to be logged into PSN to use content downloaded to the machine, and they can only use their own content. If the PS4 has multiple users, they can only use their own content, not content other users have downloaded to the machine. Benefits of Playstation Plus apply only on a per-user basis on a secondary PS4. Also one can't remote play into a secondary PS4 over the Internet. (Local network remote play still works of course) IIRC, you don't need to be logged into PSN to use disc-based single-player content on a secondary PS4.
Say Bob visits Alice's house and creates his user account alongside hers on her secondary PS4. He can't use her content, but he can re-download HIS content to HER PS4 and use that as long as that machine can log into PSN.
Those limits do NOT apply to a Primary PS4. With a PS4 that's been activated as a users primary PS4, any user can use ANY content downloaded on the machine even if offline. Benefits of Playstation Plus apply to ALL users of a primary system. Also that PS4 can be logged into via remote play over the Internet. Note that if Bob creates an account on Alice's primary PS4, he can access her content without being logged into PSN. He can also download his but will require being logged into PSN to do so, but Alice won't be able to access any content Bob downloads. It's HER primary PS4, not his.
Any problems you have read about are probably due to the fact that in the early days of the PS4, the first PS4 wasn't automatically made the primary PS4, and you had to go into settings to do so. It is now.
I think you inadvertently made his point with this, and I'll bet you don't even know why.
I don't think so. The stuff I wrote doesn't really matter on whit to desktop users. The ONLY reason I know that stuff is because...Slashdot, the fact that I've used older Linuxes (and read older Linux books)
Hell, I've compiled me up a kernel for features the default kernel in the distro I used didn't have, but I've forgot the recipe I used (from a Linux book) because I haven't had to do it in over a decade! something something make_menuconfig; make mrproper; make vmlinuz.
That was an old redhat so the method I used probably isn't used anymore.
No-dongle? I didn't see that! (I just like knowing about what's available so I can spread the word to other Linux users) The only audio editing I've ever done has been VERY simple things in Audacity.
Not really. I only do my updates in the terminal because I'm used to the old-fashioned way. As someone who has been using Linux since 2002, It's faster for me. I could just use the graphical update GUI and never touch the terminal if I wanted.
Nope, I work with persons with disabilities, in a non-technical job, and that is all I can say about that.
Fedora is actually pretty impressive. A harder distro than Xubuntu which I am using.
When I first started using Linux, Red Hat based distros were considered the "distros for the non-technical masses" in the way Ubuntu and Mint are now. I'm just used to the "Redhatty" way of doing things. Though back when I first started using Linux fewer things were "automatic", though more things were than what was said in the Linux books I had. One book said one often had to manually edit the/etc/printcap for one's printer.
Not on the Red Hat version I used in 2002, all you had to do is was run "printtool", which was graphical, and select your printer from a list, exactly like how one can do today Though it was a pre-cups system. (Though in most cases you don't even need to do that, and it just works!)
Installing truetype fonts? just put them in the right directory and "maybe" run fc-cache.
Really? That hasn't really happened at all with my installation of Xubuntu, but maybe there is something wrong with my installation.
what version of Xubuntu? Creating menu entries is the standard in modern Linux. It should "just happen" whenever you install a graphical application from the repos.
But it shouldn't really be necessary.
It isn't, most of the time.
Linux desperately needs to make software installation a lot easier if it ever wants to get mainstream users.
It IS easy. Want to know how to install Eclipse on Fedora? You can just open up whatever graphical software application your desktop environment has installed, or...it's actually faster to just type "sudo dnf install eclipse" in a terminal.
I had a similar problem with Eclipse IDE which was not in the Ubuntu repos at all.
appweb and ESP, a web server and MVC framework respectively. I'd really like to be able to use them but I cannot even build them and even if I manage to build them the documentation is so inadequate that I doubt I will be able to get it working.
Now you have to remember I am not a programmer or developer. I can do some basic troubleshooting, but I could not tell you "how" to set up a web server for professional use.
But compiling appweb was as easy as typing "make" in a terminal, that's what the instructions said to do if you didn't want to go to the effort of building their special build too. Which I just did. The final message of the compile said that it could be ran in two ways, one of which was "make run", Which I just did.
It put up a little intro page at 127.0.0.1:4100, which I was able to access so it's working just fine. I didn't compile up ESP, but the build instructions look the same. You'll have to read their more indepth information to get everything setup for "production" use. Don't ask me, not-a-programmer/dev/webadmin
Also if you are still feeling generous why can I not upgrade qpdf to the latest version by compiling from source? I did./configure, make, make install but it didn't actually install the program. It did build it though and if I go to the 'build' directory I can run it from within that directory only.
On Fedora the version in the repos is the latest version, 8.4.0. Again, which Xubuntu are you using? an LTS version? You might not need the latest version unless it has a feature the older version doesn't.
But your problem is probably either one of two things, the application is installed, but qpdf happens to be of those applications that installs libraries alongside the binary and since you didn't ldconfig after the make install the binary can't find the libs
Or else it's a $PATH issue and for some reason/usr/local/bin isn't ahead of/usr/bin, but that's much less likely. Just run ldconfig as root, that should do the trick.
Then last time, my success rate with "double clicking a.deb file" went to zero - they'd just hang on the taskbar doing nothing.
You shouldn't be doing that, you should be installing from your distro repos first.
The samba config tool did absolutely nothing, just silent, complete failure.
Which one? At least one got deprecated for use with more recent version of samba. You can use webmin to configure a samba server, that's probably the easiest way now, but you can edit yourself up a simple smb.conf to get things started.
Linux.com is not always authoritative. For example, "service" basically replaced chkconfig. So if your linux distro used "service" you could ignore anything related to earlier distros.
SysV and BSD are types of Unixes, they "init" the system when it boots in various (and different ways) In general Linux used SysV style init, IIRC it was only older versions that used BSD style.
Most modern desktop and "professional" Linux distros use systemd, but there's a few neckbeard holdout distros still using SysV.
But as was said, doesn't matter to most desktop users. For me all it basically does is change a few commands I rarely use like:
sudo service servicefoo start/stop/restart
to sudo systemctl start/stop/restart servicefoo.service
Linux devs need to just bite the bullet and agree on an ironclad standard way to do software installations and menus and launcher icons and all the different Desktop Environments should abide by those rules.
They did, and do. freedesktop.org is a thing. They decide on those standards.
The idea that the user should hand edit a.desktop file every time they install an app is just ridiculous.
Generally you don't need to do that, especially not things you've installed from your distro's repositories. Heck, most of the time, even things you compile from source will install the proper ".desktop" files to/usr/local/share/applications.
Annoying as hell but it also gave you the feeling you weren't entirely without a support network. people were watching your back. Linux is very insular and isolated in expereience......It's not that Windows isn't rife with malware. It's the sense you are not alone in facing it.
What? Linux is all about community and I'm not even talking about USENET, IRC or a majordomo mailing-list I've joined a distro-related web-forum community for EVERY distro I've ran. Heck, Technically I'm still a moderator for a Yellow Dog Linux one. (I don't run YDL anymore).
I do check in now again on the Fedora Forum, of which I've been a member since 2010. And there are most certainly forums every distro I'm aware of.
Ironically the fact that updates are a big deal on Windows machines makes people aware of them. They are aware when one exists and if they haven't done it......
Linus doesn't provide that feeling.
Yes it does. When I boot and login to my Fedora machine, a notification will often appear on the top right saying something like "dnfdragora: 15 updates are available"
If I see that, I know to run "sudo dnf update" in my terminal, or I could just use the graphical updater. Either way, it's good.
Chromebooks are PERSONAL devices. They're not designed to be shared. They're cheap "one-person, one Chromebook" machines. A simple "don't touch my chromebook", or stickynote should do the trick. Don't make things more complex than necessary to support your edge cases.
When was the last time you actually sideloaded an Android application. Oh yes I know, you're a special edge case that has an edge case objection for everything.
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Umm no, it's not that complicated. People just needed a word to describe games downloaded and the consensus word became "digital". It is NOT a reference to "digital phonorecord delivery"
You have this annoying habit of reading to much into things and overcomplicating things...stop that.
Said person probably didn't activate said machine as their "primary". That changes things to NOT require logins.
the places with only cellular and satellite internet (and WISP) would be outside of city/town limits, wouldn't they. Even in rural counties, the majority of people live within the towns of those counties and thusly have regular high speed internet.
While there are a lot of those "cellular/satellite/WISP" only places, they actually have very few people living in them even in rural areas.
And why are you so focused on this edge case? Aren't you a townie yourself? And also if it has been some time since you "last checked" you need to check again. You're VERY prone to relying on outdated information for your obsessions with edge cases.
From what I understand, both the current XBox and PS require an internet connection to even play single player games.
Your understanding would be incorrect. For the PS4 it works like this. There are Primary and secondary PS4's. One's first PS4 is automatically the primary now, though if you have more than one you can choose which one is Primary.
On Secondary PS4's, a user needs to be logged into PSN to use content downloaded to the machine, and they can only use their own content. If the PS4 has multiple users, they can only use their own content, not content other users have downloaded to the machine. Benefits of Playstation Plus apply only on a per-user basis on a secondary PS4. Also one can't remote play into a secondary PS4 over the Internet. (Local network remote play still works of course) IIRC, you don't need to be logged into PSN to use disc-based single-player content on a secondary PS4.
Say Bob visits Alice's house and creates his user account alongside hers on her secondary PS4. He can't use her content, but he can re-download HIS content to HER PS4 and use that as long as that machine can log into PSN.
Those limits do NOT apply to a Primary PS4. With a PS4 that's been activated as a users primary PS4, any user can use ANY content downloaded on the machine even if offline. Benefits of Playstation Plus apply to ALL users of a primary system. Also that PS4 can be logged into via remote play over the Internet.
Note that if Bob creates an account on Alice's primary PS4, he can access her content without being logged into PSN. He can also download his but will require being logged into PSN to do so, but Alice won't be able to access any content Bob downloads. It's HER primary PS4, not his.
Any problems you have read about are probably due to the fact that in the early days of the PS4, the first PS4 wasn't automatically made the primary PS4, and you had to go into settings to do so. It is now.
Most "Travellers" in the UK are probably Irish Travellers, not Romany "gypsies".
“edge case“ and “edglord“ are two very different things in English.
You are also on slashdot, the non-sideloading masses aren't.
Fujitsu ScanSnap 1300. I remember when I looked about a year ago there was some fiddly way to make it work involving WINE.
You don't need WINE, it's supported with the sane-epjitsu backend.
I think you inadvertently made his point with this, and I'll bet you don't even know why.
I don't think so. The stuff I wrote doesn't really matter on whit to desktop users. The ONLY reason I know that stuff is because...Slashdot, the fact that I've used older Linuxes (and read older Linux books)
Hell, I've compiled me up a kernel for features the default kernel in the distro I used didn't have, but I've forgot the recipe I used (from a Linux book) because I haven't had to do it in over a decade! something something make_menuconfig; make mrproper; make vmlinuz.
That was an old redhat so the method I used probably isn't used anymore.
Running a modern Linux isn't that hard.
I have never once had to edit a .desktop file in linux
I have, especially in older Linuxes, which is why I know about methods of doing it, but even then it wasn't all that common.
Less common now, I actually had to open one up to see the syntax since I hadn't had to do it in a few years.
No-dongle? I didn't see that! (I just like knowing about what's available so I can spread the word to other Linux users) The only audio editing I've ever done has been VERY simple things in Audacity.
Not really. I only do my updates in the terminal because I'm used to the old-fashioned way. As someone who has been using Linux since 2002, It's faster for me. I could just use the graphical update GUI and never touch the terminal if I wanted.
I bet you have a technical background.
Nope, I work with persons with disabilities, in a non-technical job, and that is all I can say about that.
Fedora is actually pretty impressive. A harder distro than Xubuntu which I am using.
When I first started using Linux, Red Hat based distros were considered the "distros for the non-technical masses" in the way Ubuntu and Mint are now. I'm just used to the "Redhatty" way of doing things. Though back when I first started using Linux fewer things were "automatic", though more things were than what was said in the Linux books I had. One book said one often had to manually edit the /etc/printcap for one's printer.
Not on the Red Hat version I used in 2002, all you had to do is was run "printtool", which was graphical, and select your printer from a list, exactly like how one can do today Though it was a pre-cups system. (Though in most cases you don't even need to do that, and it just works!)
Installing truetype fonts? just put them in the right directory and "maybe" run fc-cache.
Really? That hasn't really happened at all with my installation of Xubuntu, but maybe there is something wrong with my installation.
what version of Xubuntu? Creating menu entries is the standard in modern Linux. It should "just happen" whenever you install a graphical application from the repos.
But it shouldn't really be necessary.
It isn't, most of the time.
Linux desperately needs to make software installation a lot easier if it ever wants to get mainstream users.
It IS easy. Want to know how to install Eclipse on Fedora? You can just open up whatever graphical software application your desktop environment has installed, or...it's actually faster to just type "sudo dnf install eclipse" in a terminal.
I had a similar problem with Eclipse IDE which was not in the Ubuntu repos at all.
Yes it is: https://packages.ubuntu.com/co...
appweb and ESP, a web server and MVC framework respectively. I'd really like to be able to use them but I cannot even build them and even if I manage to build them the documentation is so inadequate that I doubt I will be able to get it working.
Now you have to remember I am not a programmer or developer. I can do some basic troubleshooting, but I could not tell you "how" to set up a web server for professional use.
But compiling appweb was as easy as typing "make" in a terminal, that's what the instructions said to do if you didn't want to go to the effort of building their special build too. Which I just did. The final message of the compile said that it could be ran in two ways, one of which was "make run", Which I just did.
It put up a little intro page at 127.0.0.1:4100, which I was able to access so it's working just fine. I didn't compile up ESP, but the build instructions look the same. You'll have to read their more indepth information to get everything setup for "production" use. Don't ask me, not-a-programmer/dev/webadmin
Also if you are still feeling generous why can I not upgrade qpdf to the latest version by compiling from source? I did ./configure, make, make install but it didn't actually install the program. It did build it though and if I go to the 'build' directory I can run it from within that directory only.
On Fedora the version in the repos is the latest version, 8.4.0. Again, which Xubuntu are you using? an LTS version? You might not need the latest version unless it has a feature the older version doesn't.
But your problem is probably either one of two things, the application is installed, but qpdf happens to be of those applications that installs libraries alongside the binary and since you didn't ldconfig after the make install the binary can't find the libs
Or else it's a $PATH issue and for some reason /usr/local/bin isn't ahead of /usr/bin, but that's much less likely. Just run ldconfig as root, that should do the trick.
For example, Chrome isn't there in Ubuntu.
For Fedora, chrome has it's own repo, probably the same for Ubuntu.
I tried to search for "steam" but the web site just gives me an error.
It's there.
https://packages.ubuntu.com/co...
Couldn't get my document scanner to work
Which one? Is it listed in the "sane" database and make sure sane-backends are installed.
there doesn't seem to be any equivalent to the document management software that NEC provides with it.
Shouldn't need it, simplescan should do the trick.
Then last time, my success rate with "double clicking a .deb file" went to zero - they'd just hang on the taskbar doing nothing.
You shouldn't be doing that, you should be installing from your distro repos first.
The samba config tool did absolutely nothing, just silent, complete failure.
Which one? At least one got deprecated for use with more recent version of samba. You can use webmin to configure a samba server, that's probably the easiest way now, but you can edit yourself up a simple smb.conf to get things started.
Linux.com is not always authoritative. For example, "service" basically replaced chkconfig. So if your linux distro used "service" you could ignore anything related to earlier distros.
SysV and BSD are types of Unixes, they "init" the system when it boots in various (and different ways) In general Linux used SysV style init, IIRC it was only older versions that used BSD style.
Most modern desktop and "professional" Linux distros use systemd, but there's a few neckbeard holdout distros still using SysV.
But as was said, doesn't matter to most desktop users. For me all it basically does is change a few commands I rarely use like:
sudo service servicefoo start/stop/restart
to
sudo systemctl start/stop/restart servicefoo.service
they all suck to some degree or another with regard to paper and envelope handling (like for greeting cards) compared to Publisher.
Ah ha! Found out that LibreOffice Impress has ease of use issues with envelopes didn't you?
I may have a solution, at least for envelopes. Glabels, it's not just for labels, you can print on envelopes too.
Linux devs need to just bite the bullet and agree on an ironclad standard way to do software installations and menus and launcher icons and all the different Desktop Environments should abide by those rules.
They did, and do. freedesktop.org is a thing. They decide on those standards.
The idea that the user should hand edit a .desktop file every time they install an app is just ridiculous.
Generally you don't need to do that, especially not things you've installed from your distro's repositories. Heck, most of the time, even things you compile from source will install the proper ".desktop" files to /usr/local/share/applications.
The Linux DAW's like Bitwig aren't good enough for you? Blender not good enough for you?
Annoying as hell but it also gave you the feeling you weren't entirely without a support network. people were watching your back. Linux is very insular and isolated in expereience. .....It's not that Windows isn't rife with malware. It's the sense you are not alone in facing it.
What? Linux is all about community and I'm not even talking about USENET, IRC or a majordomo mailing-list I've joined a distro-related web-forum community for EVERY distro I've ran. Heck, Technically I'm still a moderator for a Yellow Dog Linux one. (I don't run YDL anymore).
I do check in now again on the Fedora Forum, of which I've been a member since 2010. And there are most certainly forums every distro I'm aware of.
Ironically the fact that updates are a big deal on Windows machines makes people aware of them. They are aware when one exists and if they haven't done it. .....
Linus doesn't provide that feeling.
Yes it does. When I boot and login to my Fedora machine, a notification will often appear on the top right saying something like
"dnfdragora: 15 updates are available"
If I see that, I know to run "sudo dnf update" in my terminal, or I could just use the graphical updater. Either way, it's good.
Chromebooks are PERSONAL devices. They're not designed to be shared. They're cheap "one-person, one Chromebook" machines. A simple "don't touch my chromebook", or stickynote should do the trick. Don't make things more complex than necessary to support your edge cases.
When was the last time you actually sideloaded an Android application. Oh yes I know, you're a special edge case that has an edge case objection for everything.
Changing a user setting shouldn't bork the system at all, and if it does. login in rescue or single-user mode and revert the change.
No need whatsoever to reinstall.
Bah, I have no IQ in the 135 range, one teacher back in grade school said it was around 125 or so, but it's probably lower now....and:
[CronoCloud@potos ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine)
Then again I do browsing, email, text editing, image editing, other things, depending.