I've not done a lot of emulation on my PS3, but I can report as follows:
NES is fine, I used mednafen SNES is also fine, almost but not quite as good as NES emulation, I used SNES9-GTK. Diablo under Win95 via QEMU seemed to run a little bit faster than it should. Diablo under Win98 via QEMU seems to hitch every now and then for a split second. Still smoother than the PS1 version on a PS1 or PS2 (the PS1 version's animation is much much smoother on the PS3 in GameOS, perhaps due to the PS3 autoconverting the funky 240p PS1 diablo outputs to 480i Running PS1 Diablo on the PS3 makes it look more like the PC version) But that may have been because I was running a couple other memory intensive apps outside of QEMU at the time. Win98 gives one the ability to run more more games than 95 does. Zuma Deluxe under Win98 via Qemu did not run full speed. Fallout 1 under DOSBOX runs, but very slowly, it's just barely playable, and sound doesn't work right. Dungeon Hack under DOSBOX runs full speed and sound works great.
part of the issue was that each SPE only has 256kb of cache on it, which is rather marginal for high resolution rendering (you can't fit a whole 1080p frame into the SPE).
From what I have read the SPE's are essentially extensions of ideas introduced in the PS2 EE's Vector Units. They're stream processors. You don't try to put an entire frame of video or whole dataset in there at once. You stream it on the fly and run it through whatever SPE program is running. In and out as fast as you can.
The explosion isn't in the number of emulators, it's in the number of people running emulators via Linux on the PS3. We're seeing a lot of newbies to Linux coming over to the Yellow Dog Linux forums asking: "Is there a quick and easy guide to getting Linux and emulators installed and setup on the PS3?"
The actual emulating isn't a new development, but the increasing number of people doing it (because installing Linux and emulators on the PS3 is easy) is a new development. We're seeing tons of "I just want to get my PS3 set up to run a few emulators, can you give me a little bit of help in doing so" people over on the Yellow Dog Linux boards.
Installing Linux on the PS3 has to be one of the easiest installs ever, considering the fixed hardware. It's even easier than installing it on the PS2 was, and that was pretty easy. (As long as you didn't have to install blind, before people figured out the installer supported NTSC and PAL and not just the PS2's VGA dongle)
Also, installing Linux on the PS3 does not remove it's ability to play PS3 games, or use what Sony calls GameOS. It's a dual-boot thing, you can boot between GameOS and Linux as you desire.
Installing Linux doesn't remove your ability to play PS3 games, it works in a dual-boot fashion. Which is what makes it nice. You get commercial games like Fallout 3 and Linux without needing to run Windows to play games, and it's all on a box that's designed to hook up to a TV, even an SDTV. Plus all the other stuff the PS3 does.
Having only 2 ports isn't a big insurmountable problem, because USB hubs work. More convenient to have 4, of course. I currently have an Apple USB keyboard (the mouse is plugged into it), an inactive Dual Shock 3, external hard drive, and printer plugged into mine.
Yes, but those are both older PS2 games that you recently bought, as you have said before. You want Sony to maintain servers for a game from 2002 (Frequency) that never did have a lot of online players? Try playing one of the more popular online games, like SOCOM, or the two MMORPGs. Heck even the PS2 version of Marvel Ultimate Alliance has it's online servers still up.
YDL 6.1 is very very stable, much less buggy than 6.0 was. YDL is currently based on CentOS because it's actually an enterprise oriented distro, they wanted the stability of RHEL. Fixstars sells PS3 clusters for HPC use.
Any video of 720p or less should play fine. some few have reported smooth video at 1080i/1080p for certain formats, but I take those with a grain of salt. No Xv.
USB doesn't seem restricted, though the Blu-Ray drive is. For example you can't watch DVD's under Linux on the internal drive but you can on external drives. I have an external drive hooked up to my PS3, it's FAT32 so it works with both GameOS and Linux.
No, it was YaBasic on the PS2 that was the attempt to evade the import duty. The law/duty was revoked shortly thereafter, before Linux on the PS2 was released, and doesn't exist anymore. And thusly has nothing to do with Linux on the PS2/PS3.
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Game consoles and computers (i.e. desktops and laptops) seem unlikely to merge, except by hacking the game console so it can be used as a computer.
Since a Wii owner responded to you, I'll respond as a PS3 owner. Every PS3 has a built in web browser, with good enough flash support for Hulu. You can also message any other PS3 owner, either with text or voice/video. Wifi is built in to most PS3's. They also do media: pictures, music, video. You can rip CD's directly on your PS3 if you want. (it's damn fast at it). The PS3 has USB ports, so you can use a keyboard and/or mouse to control the CrossMedia Bar interface, including the web browser.
All PS3's have official support for installing what Sony Calls an "OtherOS", or in other words Linux. All you need is install media and your PS3 becomes a PC. Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin, Nethack. I've got Yellow Dog Linux 6.1 on mine.
Though less well known, the PS2 also had the capability to install Linux, which I did since I was one of those who pre-ordered the Linux kit when it's US release was announced.
Though technically computers and consoles merged years ago, with the Intellivision keyboard add on and the Colecovision's Adam expansion.
I was told it was the case, by an Xbox 360 owner who said that was an advantage the Xbox 3630 had over the PS3, but I've just been googling and find information only on DLNA sharing. Crap.
They don't teach creationism in Illinois public schools, not even in tiny rinky dink towns downstate. I was taught that evolution itself was fact, even if the details were fuzzy.
and soybean fields, but only outside of Chicagoland. And there's bits and pieces of industry throughout the state, surrounded by corn and beans. There's pumpkins and wineries too...but mostly corn and beans. And corn is scary shit, the way it rustles and the way it looks. Horror writers should write stories about corn, not kudzu.
If you don't want to be dominated by Chicago, then get 7 million people to move south of I-80, and west of I-55. Oh wait, that region is just a bunch of farmland with a few good sized towns/small cities scattered through it that no one really wants to move to because there's limited economic opportunities outside the small cities, the schools aren't as good as suburban ones, and it's full of Republicans who vote Republican out of tradition and don't realize the party of Lincoln has become the party of Jefferson Davis? And I say that as someone who lives pretty far south of I-80 and just east of I-55. Really, would you rather live in places like Gibson City or Minonk or Aurora or Chicago itself.
Need I remind you that the Governor just before Blago, George Ryan is from Kankakee? Downstaters are quite capable of holding their own in the stupid or corrupt politician department.
Can you really call an object a third of a mile wide a "moon" rather than "just a rocky piece of junk that orbits Saturn, like a whole bunch of other stuff."
Sony will likely wither and die rather than adapt to the emerging open source "standard".
That's funny, since every PS3 (and PSP) has a notice in the About PS3 section of the XMB mentioning Eric S. Raymond and libungif. They've more than adapted, Sony themselves use open source software. PS2 dev boxes use Linux, and so do the PS3 ones. Every PS3 is fully capable of running Linux as a supported feature. Sony tells you how to do it. Sony has been quoted in an interview stating, "It was fully intended that you, a PS3 owner, could play games, watch movies, view photos, listen to music, and run a full-featured Linux operating system that transforms your PS3 into a home computer." Sony is far far friendlier to the open source movement that Microsoft or Nintendo are.
I've said many times that the PS3 take concepts introduced in the PS2 to the "next level". On the Dev level the Cell takes the EE's VU's to the next level. On a consumer level almost every thing the PS3 does, the PS2 did in Japan, the BBN acting as a sort of test market for the PS3's web browser/multimedia features/PSN.
It wasn't marketing that killed the Dreamcast, the PS2 is simply a better system than the Dreamcast. It has a faster CPU, the discs hold more data, it has more RAM, the memory cards hold more data, has standard USB ports, the BIG full size PS2 has a hard drive option and the PS2 can output 1080i. And unlike the Dreamcast, the PS2 is backwards compatible with it's predecessor. The PS2 also has a greater variety of games, unlike the Dreamcast with it's library that tended to appeal only to the die hard arcade/fighting game/sega fanboys.
I've not done a lot of emulation on my PS3, but I can report as follows:
NES is fine, I used mednafen
SNES is also fine, almost but not quite as good as NES emulation, I used SNES9-GTK.
Diablo under Win95 via QEMU seemed to run a little bit faster than it should.
Diablo under Win98 via QEMU seems to hitch every now and then for a split second. Still smoother than the PS1 version on a PS1 or PS2 (the PS1 version's animation is much much smoother on the PS3 in GameOS, perhaps due to the PS3 autoconverting the funky 240p PS1 diablo outputs to 480i Running PS1 Diablo on the PS3 makes it look more like the PC version) But that may have been because I was running a couple other memory intensive apps outside of QEMU at the time. Win98 gives one the ability to run more more games than 95 does.
Zuma Deluxe under Win98 via Qemu did not run full speed.
Fallout 1 under DOSBOX runs, but very slowly, it's just barely playable, and sound doesn't work right.
Dungeon Hack under DOSBOX runs full speed and sound works great.
part of the issue was that each SPE only has 256kb of cache on it, which is rather marginal for high resolution rendering (you can't fit a whole 1080p frame into the SPE).
From what I have read the SPE's are essentially extensions of ideas introduced in the PS2 EE's Vector Units. They're stream processors. You don't try to put an entire frame of video or whole dataset in there at once. You stream it on the fly and run it through whatever SPE program is running. In and out as fast as you can.
The explosion isn't in the number of emulators, it's in the number of people running emulators via Linux on the PS3. We're seeing a lot of newbies to Linux coming over to the Yellow Dog Linux forums asking: "Is there a quick and easy guide to getting Linux and emulators installed and setup on the PS3?"
The actual emulating isn't a new development, but the increasing number of people doing it (because installing Linux and emulators on the PS3 is easy) is a new development. We're seeing tons of "I just want to get my PS3 set up to run a few emulators, can you give me a little bit of help in doing so" people over on the Yellow Dog Linux boards.
Installing Linux on the PS3 has to be one of the easiest installs ever, considering the fixed hardware. It's even easier than installing it on the PS2 was, and that was pretty easy. (As long as you didn't have to install blind, before people figured out the installer supported NTSC and PAL and not just the PS2's VGA dongle)
Also, installing Linux on the PS3 does not remove it's ability to play PS3 games, or use what Sony calls GameOS. It's a dual-boot thing, you can boot between GameOS and Linux as you desire.
Installing Linux doesn't remove your ability to play PS3 games, it works in a dual-boot fashion. Which is what makes it nice. You get commercial games like Fallout 3 and Linux without needing to run Windows to play games, and it's all on a box that's designed to hook up to a TV, even an SDTV. Plus all the other stuff the PS3 does.
Having only 2 ports isn't a big insurmountable problem, because USB hubs work. More convenient to have 4, of course. I currently have an Apple USB keyboard (the mouse is plugged into it), an inactive Dual Shock 3, external hard drive, and printer plugged into mine.
Yes, but those are both older PS2 games that you recently bought, as you have said before. You want Sony to maintain servers for a game from 2002 (Frequency) that never did have a lot of online players? Try playing one of the more popular online games, like SOCOM, or the two MMORPGs. Heck even the PS2 version of Marvel Ultimate Alliance has it's online servers still up.
YDL 6.1 is very very stable, much less buggy than 6.0 was. YDL is currently based on CentOS because it's actually an enterprise oriented distro, they wanted the stability of RHEL. Fixstars sells PS3 clusters for HPC use.
Any video of 720p or less should play fine. some few have reported smooth video at 1080i/1080p for certain formats, but I take those with a grain of salt. No Xv.
USB doesn't seem restricted, though the Blu-Ray drive is. For example you can't watch DVD's under Linux on the internal drive but you can on external drives. I have an external drive hooked up to my PS3, it's FAT32 so it works with both GameOS and Linux.
You'll need USB for the install, it's a kboot/YDL installer limitation.
No, it was YaBasic on the PS2 that was the attempt to evade the import duty. The law/duty was revoked shortly thereafter, before Linux on the PS2 was released, and doesn't exist anymore. And thusly has nothing to do with Linux on the PS2/PS3.
Since a Wii owner responded to you, I'll respond as a PS3 owner. Every PS3 has a built in web browser, with good enough flash support for Hulu. You can also message any other PS3 owner, either with text or voice/video. Wifi is built in to most PS3's. They also do media: pictures, music, video. You can rip CD's directly on your PS3 if you want. (it's damn fast at it). The PS3 has USB ports, so you can use a keyboard and/or mouse to control the CrossMedia Bar interface, including the web browser.
All PS3's have official support for installing what Sony Calls an "OtherOS", or in other words Linux. All you need is install media and your PS3 becomes a PC. Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin, Nethack. I've got Yellow Dog Linux 6.1 on mine.
Though less well known, the PS2 also had the capability to install Linux, which I did since I was one of those who pre-ordered the Linux kit when it's US release was announced.
Though technically computers and consoles merged years ago, with the Intellivision keyboard add on and the Colecovision's Adam expansion.
Why aren't you using your PS3 to watch Hulu on your TV, the PS3's web browser is capable of it.
I was told it was the case, by an Xbox 360 owner who said that was an advantage the Xbox 3630 had over the PS3, but I've just been googling and find information only on DLNA sharing. Crap.
They don't teach creationism in Illinois public schools, not even in tiny rinky dink towns downstate. I was taught that evolution itself was fact, even if the details were fuzzy.
and soybean fields, but only outside of Chicagoland. And there's bits and pieces of industry throughout the state, surrounded by corn and beans. There's pumpkins and wineries too...but mostly corn and beans. And corn is scary shit, the way it rustles and the way it looks. Horror writers should write stories about corn, not kudzu.
I don't recall Jim Edgar or Jim Thompson being charged with any crimes? Did I miss something?
If you don't want to be dominated by Chicago, then get 7 million people to move south of I-80, and west of I-55. Oh wait, that region is just a bunch of farmland with a few good sized towns/small cities scattered through it that no one really wants to move to because there's limited economic opportunities outside the small cities, the schools aren't as good as suburban ones, and it's full of Republicans who vote Republican out of tradition and don't realize the party of Lincoln has become the party of Jefferson Davis? And I say that as someone who lives pretty far south of I-80 and just east of I-55. Really, would you rather live in places like Gibson City or Minonk or Aurora or Chicago itself.
Need I remind you that the Governor just before Blago, George Ryan is from Kankakee? Downstaters are quite capable of holding their own in the stupid or corrupt politician department.
Yes, exactly. The Xbox 360 can see regular SMB/CIFS shares, the PS3 can't.
Can you really call an object a third of a mile wide a "moon" rather than "just a rocky piece of junk that orbits Saturn, like a whole bunch of other stuff."
How appropriate, the PS3 runs Linux and you say they tell devs "It's in the manuals" RTFM indeed.
That's funny, since every PS3 (and PSP) has a notice in the About PS3 section of the XMB mentioning Eric S. Raymond and libungif. They've more than adapted, Sony themselves use open source software. PS2 dev boxes use Linux, and so do the PS3 ones. Every PS3 is fully capable of running Linux as a supported feature. Sony tells you how to do it. Sony has been quoted in an interview stating, "It was fully intended that you, a PS3 owner, could play games, watch movies, view photos, listen to music, and run a full-featured Linux operating system that transforms your PS3 into a home computer." Sony is far far friendlier to the open source movement that Microsoft or Nintendo are.
I've said many times that the PS3 take concepts introduced in the PS2 to the "next level". On the Dev level the Cell takes the EE's VU's to the next level. On a consumer level almost every thing the PS3 does, the PS2 did in Japan, the BBN acting as a sort of test market for the PS3's web browser/multimedia features/PSN.
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It wasn't marketing that killed the Dreamcast, the PS2 is simply a better system than the Dreamcast. It has a faster CPU, the discs hold more data, it has more RAM, the memory cards hold more data, has standard USB ports, the BIG full size PS2 has a hard drive option and the PS2 can output 1080i. And unlike the Dreamcast, the PS2 is backwards compatible with it's predecessor. The PS2 also has a greater variety of games, unlike the Dreamcast with it's library that tended to appeal only to the die hard arcade/fighting game/sega fanboys.