With the iPhone Safari exploit, this could actually turn into a (spam|scam|phish)er's dream. Imagine an army of iPhone bots doing nothing but serving up porn, pill, and pump-n-dump pages. They don't have to be fast to work on people. EDGE may be slower than 3G or broadband, but at 200kbps you can still send out a massive amount of spam and serve up small images.
I'm interested to see where this all leads. Speaking of iPhone hacks, I may be completely out of it and missed them, but you would have thought there'd be massive hacking against WM5 or WM6 by now.
Interesting utility. Slashdot gets a D on the homepage, F on a comments page. Many media sites score Fs, mostly thanks to numerous ad and cookie sites.
Unfortunately Microsoft is beginning to move a lot of licensing functionality into SA to make it almost a requirement. For instance, look up the licensing for Office 2007 in conjunction with a Terminal Server, or the use of Office 2003 licensing for Office 2007 on Terminal Server. And charity licensing now gives you home use rights for your licenses, if you purchase SA.
Software Assurance is bullshit, frankly. It just a way for Microsoft to squeeze extra money out of its customers with the promise of a "free" upgrade to the next version, IF the next version is released within the SA period. Think about all the poor schmucks who bought a three year SA with Office 2003 upon release (or was only two years available then?)
All the while, by the way, Microsoft is sticking it to OEMs with stupid requirements. For instance, system builders who sell Office 2007 are not allowed to distribute 2007 media: they are required to provide some sort of recovery system to the user. And OEM licensing is no longer adequate for most usage purposes (like the TS example above.)
And now that people aren't buying Vista and Office 2007 in the numbers Microsoft wanted, we will soon be required to buy nothing but! Once stock of Office 2003 runs out in the channels I will no longer be able to offer this to my customers who do not like Office 2007, as MS has discontinued Office 2003 in the OEM channels. Windows XP will be gone sometime around January, 2008.
How many people would have been pissed if Windows 2000 and Office XP suffered the same fate? So is this Microsoft's way of not committing the same mistake before of supporting older generation software, or is this just a way of cramming shit down our throats? IMHO, so long as a product is still in mainstream support, I should be able to obtain said product. IIRC, Windows XP Pro SP2 is EOL in 2010.
And what about Office 2003 SP3 which has been announced and is supposedly in testing? This will contain back-ported features from Office 2007. Will it bring "ribbons" which 90% of my surveyed users hate (ah! statistics!) and make it so there is no option for "classic" menu styles?
I will not be moving to Vista any time soon. I've used the betas and release candidates, and I am not impressed. There are some neat things under the hood, but the gains balance the loses in my experience. And I just principally abhor kuldgy, klunky DRM and other restrictions. I received Vista Business in my Action Pack, and it has gone and will continue to go unused.
I was excited about Windows XP because it represented a MASSIVE shift in technology, usability, and stability over Windows 2000. (And many people will debate this, but I refuse to argue against my experience.) I was excited about Server 2003 for a lot of the same reasons. It really seemed like Microsoft was listening to us. I went to the training and free seminars and demonstrations. But now it seems as though Microsoft took a little exception to being told by its customers what they want, and now instead tell the customers what they can have, period.
And this is a take-it, no leave-it, situation. Many of us rely upon software which requires Windows to run, and at the same time have no IT budget to investigate alternative methods. In the end, we will still need Windows somewhere.
I grow weary of Microsoft's crap. Every time I turn around I feel like I am its whore for pushing its product. To be fair, Windows XP and Server 2003 have been great products for me to support. But licensing and upgrades by attrition is just too much anymore.
I am working to move out of this part of the industry soon. I would rather do server and network administration, and disaster recovery and risk assessment, anyway. This is far less complicated and easier to stomach than Microsoft software licensing and force-fed controls.
Keep on trucking, Microsoft. Like Rome, you shall fall; you will learn the lesson of IBM. You can only screw your customers for so long before they revolt. O
I complain to colleagues about this urban web-sprawl quite a bit, especially in relation to Microsoft. I used to have three sources of information: TechNet, MSDN, and the Knowledge Base. Now you have to look at product blogs, official product blogs, product feature blogs, and so on. It has become almost impossible to find information. While searching for information on Server 2003 SP2 versus Small Business Server 2003, I finally came across a newsgroup post which linked to a KBA which referenced a blog. Absolute crap!
If you're trying to keep your affairs private, then you must have something nefarious to hide... you terrorist.
Re:Egomanical monitoring of the populace?
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Vista is Watching You
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heheh Until the first update to Vista which requires that the information be dumped. It appears that Microsoft is slowly trying to head towards a near-constant connection of the end-user to their system, for what purposes is a matter for conjecture. And might this be precursor to a subscription-based OS?
Microsoft is stepping over some big lines here.
Something else comes to mind... what about users still on dial-up? Won't the transmission of this user information completely clog the line?
Egomanical monitoring of the populace?
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Vista is Watching You
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Is this another example of Bill Gate's Microsoft micromanagement leaking out into the general public, or is this truly a way for Microsoft to help fool-proof Windows operations?
If this is nothing more than a way for Microsoft to ensure that Windows operates properly and to find potential issues, data collection should be an option. A lot of power users won't want it, and a lot of paranoid public won't either.
Of course, what choice do they have if they want/need to run Windows? If enough of the system monitors your usage and activity, not using those services pretty much makes your computer a brick.
Aside from privacy concerns, how much storage space and processing power is being used for this endeavor? Couldn't all that be put to much better use?
It appears that Apple does strive for the complete out-of-box experience -- components and software that work together without having to read up on compatibility.
At least that is what they tell us. I still read plenty of places where such-and-such program will not work with anything older than 10.4.5 or 10.3.4 or 10.10.10 (obvious embellishments.) I do not think this is such a crime, operating systems are subject to progress as much as applications, but it does seem to work against the idea.
You know, I am having a hard time figuring out what the aversion to 64-bit is. We should have been there 10 years ago, but WIntel has been brow-beating us with the same architecture since 1984, meanwhile the likes of Sun, IBM, and others made the move to 64-bit software and hardware in the early- to mid-90's, while still supporting 32-bit. WTF?
Speaking of history, the slow progression reminds me of problems that CPU designers had way back when: MOS made great 8-bit stuff, but could not make a good transition to 16-bit, for instance. IIRC, I have read in other places where other computer manufacturers (Data General?) tried to move to 32-bit and did not do so well. And that appears to be the problem with Intel -- they made great (matter for debate) 32-bit CPUs, but just could not make a good 64-bit processor (the quality and effect of the Itanium is a matter for debate, but in most reviews quickly dug up the performance is sorely lacking.)
Being that I have not programmed anything useful since the 8-bit Commodore/Atari days (6502, baby!) and 32-bit Amiga stuff (680x0,) I cannot opine informed about the difference between x86 and x64 programming, and instead only conjecture and rely upon the wisdom of others: what is the big deal?
I would like to thing so, though I do not know the answer for certain. I loved watching Mr. Wizard's World on Nickelodeon back in the 80's. When I was growing up, my 12" black and white television never left channel seven, which was Nick. Great shows like "Mr. Wizard's World," "What Will They Think of Next?", "You Can't Do That on Television," and a slew of kid-oriented serials. I do not think the shows now come close to the caliber and quality, but then it is a different world now, so it is difficult for me to judge.
I certainly have fond memories of Mr. Wizard, and he most certainly influenced me to think critically. I found myself remember his shows during school science labs and projects. I remember several of his experiments, like the ping-pong balls on mouse traps in the giant plexiglass box and the AA-powered electromagnet which would support a person sitting on a swing, as well as a brief lesson in LOGO.
I for one have missed Mr. Wizard, and am sad to hear of his passing. I am proud to learn that I share fond memories of this man with other generations -- I never know of his original show, and now wish that I could view them.
I believe that Don Herbert's family understands how he touched so many others, and that they appreciate that. I am very happy that they shared him with all of us, and hope that all generations of his family remember him and appreciate him.
Rest well, Mr. Wizard. We will miss you, and I will have to go wipe away some tears of my own.
Fully agree here. If it ships with the OS, it should be audited and maintained like everything else. I have a Solaris 7 box sitting out in the wild that I have to run in.telnetd on because the SSH daemon occasionally likes to die*, and inetd has never died on me. It's protected by tcp-wrappers and a Cisco ACL to allow only a single IP address to connect.
* Might have to do with only having 64MB of memory available. Of course, there's security there, too -- the server has 2GB of hard drive space and 64MB of memory. Nobody wants to pwn that, right;) Just enough to run bind and sendmail.
Now begins the chastising for running a machine over a decade old. Hey, it works (mostly!) and was a free box. Testament to Sun's hardware design if you ask me.
I find it mildly amusing that all of this uproar was caused by figures of Ignignot and Err "giving the finger." To me, it almost seems symbolic given the whole response.
Personally, I wish I had come across one of these devices in my home town. I would love to have some opaque blue LEDs to play with myself without having to buy them.
Man, that must have been one of the REALLY original units, where they didn't get the plastic mix right at all. I got one of the later ones, nice beige-ish color.
hehehe Seriously, though, I have had a number of my brown 64 units turn various colors as well. Some darker, some lighter (I actually like the milk-chocolate color, really light brown,) and one turned like an ashy-greyish color. Weird stuff, this plastic.
It really does suck when you have a 128D with a metal case... the paint on the case does not yellow, but the plastic does, and now it looks just icky. I think my favorite has to be my 1571 with almost perfect color, except for this nicotine-yellow drive latch.
Perhaps. If I were a professional photographer, I probably wouldn't be thrilled with the quality. I certainly wouldn't put it up against, say, a Canon SLR. Here's a news flash: neither are the case. Even so, humor me and have a look at this image:
Aside from this being photographic evidence of my trespassing onto CSX property, this shows a track which was recently scored for traction. The pictures was taken from my standing height of about 6', so probably around 5'4". You can zoom in and see the scoring on the track relatively well, not to mention details in the rocks and wood.
In my eyes, this is a pretty impressive camera to be a in a phone. And frankly, a couple of my friends who are professional photographers are also impressed.
Not so. My SonyEricsson K790a has a 3.2 mega-pixel camera. Really, the unit is more like a Sony CyberShot camera with a phone wrapped around it. I've never been a camera-phone fan until I got this thing; it really does make a neat gadget.
And to address another point made in other posts, and as I reported to Information Week, there's a lot of people pointing at how slow EDGE is compared to, say, Sprint PCS Vision (EVDO? 1X?) Regardless of the technology, my SonyEricsson GC83 says I connect at ~214kbps, and my everyday usage shows throughput in-line with that number. A colleague of mine has a Sprint PCS card, and we get right around the same throughput.
I'll be sticking with Cingular for a while, all the while wondering WTF is going to happen once it's assimilated back into the Death Star.
That's what happened here. I have all of my friends hooked on BSG, including the gf. In response to the "watch a good movie" comment, the quality or value of a movie is subjective -- personally, I like "Star Wars," though Luke is a whiny bitch:)
A lot of discussion here about the quality of the movies on several levels. That being told, I withhold my judgment on the series as a whole. However, my girlfriend has expressed interest in watching the films.
As someone who has never seen them, should she watch IV through VI, then I, II, and III, or should she watch them in series?
And so, should I pull out my original release VHS tapes of IV-VI and have her watch them in their original glory, or should she watch the new DVD releases?
I remember using Trumpet. I just had a look at v5, but it seems to just be a dialer for Win9x and NT. I'm looking around on Google and just don't see and third-party stacks for Windows XP.
"Is pluggable TCP/IP stacks feasible in mainstream operating systems?
On Amiga we have been graced with AmiTCP, Termite TCP, Miami, Genesis, and probably other TCP/IP stacks about which I do not know. IIRC, these mutated from an original stack produced by Commodore (AS225?) and all offer some compatibility to what appears to be ubiquitous among Amiga, the bsdsocket.library.
So I read about how Gibson Research decried the raw socket access introduced by the new Windows XP TCP/IP implentation (which has not caused the end of the world, best as I can tell,) and Windows Vista introduces another TCP/IP stack. All of these harken back to winsock.dll and winsock2.dll.
Then there's the TCP/IP stack within the Linux kernel, and found in most Unix implementations such as Solaris (/dev/tcp,/dev/udp, etc.)
We run into so many issues with vendors' TCP/IP stacks (like Windows XP SP2's half-open connection limitation,) why do third party vendors not create third-party TCP/IP stacks? Or do they?
Regardless of the thought process behind the curiosity, could we speculate on the viability? Would it be a potential segregation of the mainstream OS world, or could one vendor's better implementation take over?
I see potential for the server market where many system builders, administrators, and maintainers would like to tweak system performance and security as much as possible. Would TCP/IP outside of the operating system allow for such an approach? And would it be too much of a potential black-eye for OS vendors to ever allow?"
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With the iPhone Safari exploit, this could actually turn into a (spam|scam|phish)er's dream. Imagine an army of iPhone bots doing nothing but serving up porn, pill, and pump-n-dump pages. They don't have to be fast to work on people. EDGE may be slower than 3G or broadband, but at 200kbps you can still send out a massive amount of spam and serve up small images.
I'm interested to see where this all leads. Speaking of iPhone hacks, I may be completely out of it and missed them, but you would have thought there'd be massive hacking against WM5 or WM6 by now.
But to be fair, ten years ago web servers had smaller foot prints.
Interesting utility. Slashdot gets a D on the homepage, F on a comments page. Many media sites score Fs, mostly thanks to numerous ad and cookie sites.
Unfortunately Microsoft is beginning to move a lot of licensing functionality into SA to make it almost a requirement. For instance, look up the licensing for Office 2007 in conjunction with a Terminal Server, or the use of Office 2003 licensing for Office 2007 on Terminal Server. And charity licensing now gives you home use rights for your licenses, if you purchase SA.
Software Assurance is bullshit, frankly. It just a way for Microsoft to squeeze extra money out of its customers with the promise of a "free" upgrade to the next version, IF the next version is released within the SA period. Think about all the poor schmucks who bought a three year SA with Office 2003 upon release (or was only two years available then?)
All the while, by the way, Microsoft is sticking it to OEMs with stupid requirements. For instance, system builders who sell Office 2007 are not allowed to distribute 2007 media: they are required to provide some sort of recovery system to the user. And OEM licensing is no longer adequate for most usage purposes (like the TS example above.)
And now that people aren't buying Vista and Office 2007 in the numbers Microsoft wanted, we will soon be required to buy nothing but! Once stock of Office 2003 runs out in the channels I will no longer be able to offer this to my customers who do not like Office 2007, as MS has discontinued Office 2003 in the OEM channels. Windows XP will be gone sometime around January, 2008.
How many people would have been pissed if Windows 2000 and Office XP suffered the same fate? So is this Microsoft's way of not committing the same mistake before of supporting older generation software, or is this just a way of cramming shit down our throats? IMHO, so long as a product is still in mainstream support, I should be able to obtain said product. IIRC, Windows XP Pro SP2 is EOL in 2010.
And what about Office 2003 SP3 which has been announced and is supposedly in testing? This will contain back-ported features from Office 2007. Will it bring "ribbons" which 90% of my surveyed users hate (ah! statistics!) and make it so there is no option for "classic" menu styles?
I will not be moving to Vista any time soon. I've used the betas and release candidates, and I am not impressed. There are some neat things under the hood, but the gains balance the loses in my experience. And I just principally abhor kuldgy, klunky DRM and other restrictions. I received Vista Business in my Action Pack, and it has gone and will continue to go unused.
I was excited about Windows XP because it represented a MASSIVE shift in technology, usability, and stability over Windows 2000. (And many people will debate this, but I refuse to argue against my experience.) I was excited about Server 2003 for a lot of the same reasons. It really seemed like Microsoft was listening to us. I went to the training and free seminars and demonstrations. But now it seems as though Microsoft took a little exception to being told by its customers what they want, and now instead tell the customers what they can have, period.
And this is a take-it, no leave-it, situation. Many of us rely upon software which requires Windows to run, and at the same time have no IT budget to investigate alternative methods. In the end, we will still need Windows somewhere.
I grow weary of Microsoft's crap. Every time I turn around I feel like I am its whore for pushing its product. To be fair, Windows XP and Server 2003 have been great products for me to support. But licensing and upgrades by attrition is just too much anymore.
I am working to move out of this part of the industry soon. I would rather do server and network administration, and disaster recovery and risk assessment, anyway. This is far less complicated and easier to stomach than Microsoft software licensing and force-fed controls.
Keep on trucking, Microsoft. Like Rome, you shall fall; you will learn the lesson of IBM. You can only screw your customers for so long before they revolt. O
I complain to colleagues about this urban web-sprawl quite a bit, especially in relation to Microsoft. I used to have three sources of information: TechNet, MSDN, and the Knowledge Base. Now you have to look at product blogs, official product blogs, product feature blogs, and so on. It has become almost impossible to find information. While searching for information on Server 2003 SP2 versus Small Business Server 2003, I finally came across a newsgroup post which linked to a KBA which referenced a blog. Absolute crap!
And there is it: Privacy is a tool of terrorism.
If you're trying to keep your affairs private, then you must have something nefarious to hide... you terrorist.
heheh Until the first update to Vista which requires that the information be dumped. It appears that Microsoft is slowly trying to head towards a near-constant connection of the end-user to their system, for what purposes is a matter for conjecture. And might this be precursor to a subscription-based OS?
Microsoft is stepping over some big lines here.
Something else comes to mind... what about users still on dial-up? Won't the transmission of this user information completely clog the line?
Is this another example of Bill Gate's Microsoft micromanagement leaking out into the general public, or is this truly a way for Microsoft to help fool-proof Windows operations?
If this is nothing more than a way for Microsoft to ensure that Windows operates properly and to find potential issues, data collection should be an option. A lot of power users won't want it, and a lot of paranoid public won't either.
Of course, what choice do they have if they want/need to run Windows? If enough of the system monitors your usage and activity, not using those services pretty much makes your computer a brick.
Aside from privacy concerns, how much storage space and processing power is being used for this endeavor? Couldn't all that be put to much better use?
It appears that Apple does strive for the complete out-of-box experience -- components and software that work together without having to read up on compatibility.
At least that is what they tell us. I still read plenty of places where such-and-such program will not work with anything older than 10.4.5 or 10.3.4 or 10.10.10 (obvious embellishments.) I do not think this is such a crime, operating systems are subject to progress as much as applications, but it does seem to work against the idea.
heheheh You said Amiga :)
You know, I am having a hard time figuring out what the aversion to 64-bit is. We should have been there 10 years ago, but WIntel has been brow-beating us with the same architecture since 1984, meanwhile the likes of Sun, IBM, and others made the move to 64-bit software and hardware in the early- to mid-90's, while still supporting 32-bit. WTF?
Speaking of history, the slow progression reminds me of problems that CPU designers had way back when: MOS made great 8-bit stuff, but could not make a good transition to 16-bit, for instance. IIRC, I have read in other places where other computer manufacturers (Data General?) tried to move to 32-bit and did not do so well. And that appears to be the problem with Intel -- they made great (matter for debate) 32-bit CPUs, but just could not make a good 64-bit processor (the quality and effect of the Itanium is a matter for debate, but in most reviews quickly dug up the performance is sorely lacking.)
Being that I have not programmed anything useful since the 8-bit Commodore/Atari days (6502, baby!) and 32-bit Amiga stuff (680x0,) I cannot opine informed about the difference between x86 and x64 programming, and instead only conjecture and rely upon the wisdom of others: what is the big deal?
Convictions come from criminal cases; these would be civil cases, in which you win or lose.
Indeed! Thanks for spurring that moment of research.
Mr. Wizard Studios - Home Page
http://www.mrwizardstudios.com/
I would like to thing so, though I do not know the answer for certain. I loved watching Mr. Wizard's World on Nickelodeon back in the 80's. When I was growing up, my 12" black and white television never left channel seven, which was Nick. Great shows like "Mr. Wizard's World," "What Will They Think of Next?", "You Can't Do That on Television," and a slew of kid-oriented serials. I do not think the shows now come close to the caliber and quality, but then it is a different world now, so it is difficult for me to judge.
I certainly have fond memories of Mr. Wizard, and he most certainly influenced me to think critically. I found myself remember his shows during school science labs and projects. I remember several of his experiments, like the ping-pong balls on mouse traps in the giant plexiglass box and the AA-powered electromagnet which would support a person sitting on a swing, as well as a brief lesson in LOGO.
I for one have missed Mr. Wizard, and am sad to hear of his passing. I am proud to learn that I share fond memories of this man with other generations -- I never know of his original show, and now wish that I could view them.
I believe that Don Herbert's family understands how he touched so many others, and that they appreciate that. I am very happy that they shared him with all of us, and hope that all generations of his family remember him and appreciate him.
Rest well, Mr. Wizard. We will miss you, and I will have to go wipe away some tears of my own.
Not if ISPs start charging the content providers. This looks like just another argument to this end...
Fully agree here. If it ships with the OS, it should be audited and maintained like everything else. I have a Solaris 7 box sitting out in the wild that I have to run in.telnetd on because the SSH daemon occasionally likes to die*, and inetd has never died on me. It's protected by tcp-wrappers and a Cisco ACL to allow only a single IP address to connect.
;) Just enough to run bind and sendmail.
* Might have to do with only having 64MB of memory available. Of course, there's security there, too -- the server has 2GB of hard drive space and 64MB of memory. Nobody wants to pwn that, right
Now begins the chastising for running a machine over a decade old. Hey, it works (mostly!) and was a free box. Testament to Sun's hardware design if you ask me.
I find it mildly amusing that all of this uproar was caused by figures of Ignignot and Err "giving the finger." To me, it almost seems symbolic given the whole response.
Personally, I wish I had come across one of these devices in my home town. I would love to have some opaque blue LEDs to play with myself without having to buy them.
Man, that must have been one of the REALLY original units, where they didn't get the plastic mix right at all. I got one of the later ones, nice beige-ish color.
hehehe Seriously, though, I have had a number of my brown 64 units turn various colors as well. Some darker, some lighter (I actually like the milk-chocolate color, really light brown,) and one turned like an ashy-greyish color. Weird stuff, this plastic.
It really does suck when you have a 128D with a metal case... the paint on the case does not yellow, but the plastic does, and now it looks just icky. I think my favorite has to be my 1571 with almost perfect color, except for this nicotine-yellow drive latch.
And my Amigas, and my Commodore 64Cs/128s and peripherals, and (which I wouldn't think since it's been in storage) my Atari 800XL, and...
Perhaps. If I were a professional photographer, I probably wouldn't be thrilled with the quality. I certainly wouldn't put it up against, say, a Canon SLR. Here's a news flash: neither are the case. Even so, humor me and have a look at this image:
r ack.jpg
http://alan2.rateliff.us/images/key_on_railroad_t
Aside from this being photographic evidence of my trespassing onto CSX property, this shows a track which was recently scored for traction. The pictures was taken from my standing height of about 6', so probably around 5'4". You can zoom in and see the scoring on the track relatively well, not to mention details in the rocks and wood.
In my eyes, this is a pretty impressive camera to be a in a phone. And frankly, a couple of my friends who are professional photographers are also impressed.
To address one point:
"And ALL cameras in phones suck."
Not so. My SonyEricsson K790a has a 3.2 mega-pixel camera. Really, the unit is more like a Sony CyberShot camera with a phone wrapped around it. I've never been a camera-phone fan until I got this thing; it really does make a neat gadget.
And to address another point made in other posts, and as I reported to Information Week, there's a lot of people pointing at how slow EDGE is compared to, say, Sprint PCS Vision (EVDO? 1X?) Regardless of the technology, my SonyEricsson GC83 says I connect at ~214kbps, and my everyday usage shows throughput in-line with that number. A colleague of mine has a Sprint PCS card, and we get right around the same throughput.
I'll be sticking with Cingular for a while, all the while wondering WTF is going to happen once it's assimilated back into the Death Star.
That's what happened here. I have all of my friends hooked on BSG, including the gf. In response to the "watch a good movie" comment, the quality or value of a movie is subjective -- personally, I like "Star Wars," though Luke is a whiny bitch :)
A lot of discussion here about the quality of the movies on several levels. That being told, I withhold my judgment on the series as a whole. However, my girlfriend has expressed interest in watching the films.
As someone who has never seen them, should she watch IV through VI, then I, II, and III, or should she watch them in series?
And so, should I pull out my original release VHS tapes of IV-VI and have her watch them in their original glory, or should she watch the new DVD releases?
I remember using Trumpet. I just had a look at v5, but it seems to just be a dialer for Win9x and NT. I'm looking around on Google and just don't see and third-party stacks for Windows XP.
Well, that certainly curbed my curiosity and answers all of the World's problems. Thanks for your amazing insight.
Now piss off.
This relates to a question I posed on Amiga.org:
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Amiga.org - Forum
http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?
"Is pluggable TCP/IP stacks feasible in mainstream operating systems?
On Amiga we have been graced with AmiTCP, Termite TCP, Miami, Genesis, and probably other TCP/IP stacks about which I do not know. IIRC, these mutated from an original stack produced by Commodore (AS225?) and all offer some compatibility to what appears to be ubiquitous among Amiga, the bsdsocket.library.
So I read about how Gibson Research decried the raw socket access introduced by the new Windows XP TCP/IP implentation (which has not caused the end of the world, best as I can tell,) and Windows Vista introduces another TCP/IP stack. All of these harken back to winsock.dll and winsock2.dll.
Then there's the TCP/IP stack within the Linux kernel, and found in most Unix implementations such as Solaris (/dev/tcp,
We run into so many issues with vendors' TCP/IP stacks (like Windows XP SP2's half-open connection limitation,) why do third party vendors not create third-party TCP/IP stacks? Or do they?
Regardless of the thought process behind the curiosity, could we speculate on the viability? Would it be a potential segregation of the mainstream OS world, or could one vendor's better implementation take over?
I see potential for the server market where many system builders, administrators, and maintainers would like to tweak system performance and security as much as possible. Would TCP/IP outside of the operating system allow for such an approach? And would it be too much of a potential black-eye for OS vendors to ever allow?"