Well my local telco's techs are mostly brain-dead, but when the service is working (~99% uptime) I'm paying $30/month for 1.2up/down. In real life it's a bit faster. I upload about 80TB per week, so it works for me:)
I'm glad I've got DSL. I picture the day when I try to go to m-w.com and my AT&T service notes that site has been blocked, care to try our very affordable dictionary service?
IBM isn't bad, but they are behind AMD & Intel...
The point I meant to make is they're behind on silicon design (telling the fab what to make). That stuff's HARD (taping out the chip, then fixing it when your yield is for shit).
They're so far behing on mfg technology that they're screwed. AMD or Intel can take a.13 micron part, underclock it, under-volt it and spank em silly (while getting many more chips per wafer).
"... but does anybody know if Intergraph actually uses their patents to make chips? It seems rather silly if they don't develop anything themselves... Just my anonymous opinion however"
They used to until they chose to buy Intel clips. They were thinking of making an EPIC chip but decided the compiler would be impossible.
Intergraph is doing wrong; this patent basically covers a crossbar to route instructions to their proper place. Not a super novel idea IMO...
BUT the means are justified. Intel's an immoral Juggernaut. Intergraph was their golden child for a couple years; Intel used INGR boxes to show off their new stuff...
Then INGR (perhaps wrongly) started to go after mobo mfg,'s over a patent they had on L2 cache (which is a stronger patent then the one above). Mobo mfg's shout 'help, Intel' and Intel proceeded to destroy INGR's Hardware division. At that time they were the only reasonable CPU to use for high end graphics (except SUN's stuff but there's no way SUN would sell to a compeditor).
So INGR stopps getting any engineering info and this puts them a year behind in their mobo design (a year is deadly).
This suit's been going on forever. Earlier this year INGR had the ability to stop Itanic production but caved for a piddly amount of money (the INGR CEO, Jim Taylor, basically got intimidated by The Intel CEO, Craig Barrett, into giving them patent rights for nothing). I would've loved to have INGR's say in that room. I would've shut them down out of despite the damn money.
Predatory corporations like Intel need to be taught a lesson occasionally.
Err sorry; mathematical error and I looked up the pricing and it was $20 for 5MB data. I meant voice should take ~60Kb/sec, not KB... and 160 seconds = 2 min 40 sec... so $20 buys me the equivalent of ~10.5 minutes.
I almost ordered a T-Mobile PocketPC a couple weeks ago until I figured out what bandwidth costs. They want $20/month for 10MB transfer. Ouch. The voice capability probably sucks 64KB/sec so if you look at it a certain way,
So I can get 300 or so minutes per month @ $20/month but $20 only buys me 1 minute 40 seconds of data transfer. Damn they're trying to stick it to the early adopters!
Exploiter attempter's ip replaced with x's. I'm running.NET Beta 3; hopefully most've you don't know what to do with it yet. And if you do please be nice:)
I hope they aren't lies. I hope the populace is foregoing spending cash when the RIAA or MPAA get's a cut. I haven't been to (a theatre), bought or rented any media for the past year.
Drain those organizations pockets and lessen their legal influence!
I've used 500 cd's this year; I burned ONE music cd.
I bought CD-R's, not CD-Audio cd's; the RIAA gets royalties paid for each of those sold. The CD-R disks I bought play fine in my car (at least the one I burned did).
Total Cash spent that a portion of was funneled to the RIAA or MPAA this year: Their cut of a $24 jetski video. I hope to do better next year:)
I hate Intel due to some of their business tactics (mafia-like), but I hate lawyers even more. This lawsuit is groundless. They advertise their processors run at x mhz and they do. End of story.
I do believe if you took a 6 year old 'mentally disadvantaged' person an placed them as CEO of Intel 5 years ago, they would've made better decisions than have been made. Intel is a powerhouse with lots've smart folks working for them, but good god, how can they be so dumb?
Mistakes: 1) RDRam 2) A new socket every 3 months 3) It seems marketing had a large role to play with the P4's architecture (GHZ is all that matters; screw performance) 4) The biggie: The Itanic (their 64 bit proc). I doubt we'll have a compiler that really works for it in the next decade. AMD's Hammer (and the P4 and the Athlon XP and the P3 for that matter) basically do the compiler's job of scheduling multiple instructions per clock cycle in hardware. I doubt anyone can write a compiler for the Itanic to come close to the efficiency of hardware (with the possible exception of a few simple applications).
I will enjoy wathing Intel die; their only chance IMO is Yamhill (which I hope will take them at least 3 years to release, therefor giving AMD a huge headstart and some profit to put into R&D).
How can you continue to grant patents for crap like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?S ect1=PT O2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r =1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=activebuddy&OS=activ ebuddy&RS=activebuddy
There's a wealth of prior art if you took the time to look.
Now this predatory company will reap the benefits of a patent that should never have been granted: http://www.activebuddy.com/press/index.s html
Why? Are you pressured to grant patents for the revenue regardless of the merit of the proposed patent?
Hmm I wonder what and if they will reply.
Dear me@mydomain.com,
The United States Patent and Trademark Office received your e-mail on 8/15/02. You will receive a response or a status from General Information Services as quickly as possible and within 1 day. Your tracking number for this request is T200208150049.
IA64 is trying to offload the work the pipeline does (schedule parallel instruction) to a compiler. The scilicon design could be simple and elegant... but the compiler will be very, very difficult.
IF it's possible to write a good compiler, I think it's going to take years. AMD wins:)
Intel will try to get Yamhill out ASAP and will be forced to pay licencing fees to AMD for their instruction set.
AMD's David may very well topple two Goliaths (Intel, and Microsoft if they're dumb enough to overprice their 64bit OS, sending people to linux instead).
There's no way pricing per connected pc will work unless the FTC lets the big guys monopolize broadband (and if they did that, they'd probably 'proprietary'ize it as well). It just doesn't make sense.
If they want to bill 'per pc connected', they need to define some things.
Definition of connected(yes or no to these items):
My laptop which I occasionally plug into my router
10 friends who come over for a lanparty
My pda when browsing via usb via my broadband connection?
Defenition of PC (yes or no to these items):
Router
Hub
Linux PC functioning solely as a router
Webserver
GameServer
Console Game Systems
WiFi Access points
It doesn't make sense. Cable and DSL companies need to come up with a new model. How about this unoriginal thought, "Price it according to cost and overhead". Here's my guide:)
For all below, you need to mark it up x% for your current overhead (estimating your revenue) and perhaps even farther to grow your infastructure (if your business is healthy).
Charge your cost for tech support! (When it's not the ISP's fault)
Charge people to set up their accounts (most already do)
Webhosting is an extra charge at cost (you can't compete with the big and/or free guys; why try)
Email is an extra charge at cost (see above)
News is an extra charge at cost (see above)
Charge cost for IP's
Charge for dynamic IP's by the minute (should equal = the cost for a static IP per minute). Let users who aren't on 24x7 share their dynamic ip with others so you don't have to have as many. You could charge less at non peak times.
Don't get greedy!
I'm spoiled at the moment with a ~1500Kb up / 1000Kb down connection for $30 a month with a static IP and 4 to 5 machines on it.
I upload ~12GB per day (gigabytes). I really wonder how much this bandwidth costs the ISP (ignoring overhead).
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Well my local telco's techs are mostly brain-dead, but when the service is working (~99% uptime) I'm paying $30/month for 1.2up/down. In real life it's a bit faster. I upload about 80TB per week, so it works for me :)
I'm glad I've got DSL. I picture the day when I try to go to m-w.com and my AT&T service notes that site has been blocked, care to try our very affordable dictionary service?
IBM isn't bad, but they are behind AMD & Intel... The point I meant to make is they're behind on silicon design (telling the fab what to make). That stuff's HARD (taping out the chip, then fixing it when your yield is for shit).
They're so far behing on mfg technology that they're screwed. AMD or Intel can take a .13 micron part, underclock it, under-volt it and spank em silly (while getting many more chips per wafer).
I don't recall there being any mention of this before I handed them thousands of dollars
RTFM
Hmm don't remember... I belive ~1995 (Their only foray into the consumer gfx market)
"They were never a consumer product company."
:p
Remember Their Voodoo Rush card that sold in retail outlets? Intense 3D, I believe
Sadly, Voodoo Rush sucked... and none of the 3 mfg's ever fixed the damn drivers (Hercules, INGR, ???)
"... but does anybody know if Intergraph actually uses their patents to make chips? It seems rather silly if they don't develop anything themselves... Just my anonymous opinion however"
They used to until they chose to buy Intel clips. They were thinking of making an EPIC chip but decided the compiler would be impossible.
Intergraph is doing wrong; this patent basically covers a crossbar to route instructions to their proper place. Not a super novel idea IMO...
BUT the means are justified. Intel's an immoral Juggernaut. Intergraph was their golden child for a couple years; Intel used INGR boxes to show off their new stuff...
Then INGR (perhaps wrongly) started to go after mobo mfg,'s over a patent they had on L2 cache (which is a stronger patent then the one above). Mobo mfg's shout 'help, Intel' and Intel proceeded to destroy INGR's Hardware division. At that time they were the only reasonable CPU to use for high end graphics (except SUN's stuff but there's no way SUN would sell to a compeditor).
So INGR stopps getting any engineering info and this puts them a year behind in their mobo design (a year is deadly).
This suit's been going on forever. Earlier this year INGR had the ability to stop Itanic production but caved for a piddly amount of money (the INGR CEO, Jim Taylor, basically got intimidated by The Intel CEO, Craig Barrett, into giving them patent rights for nothing). I would've loved to have INGR's say in that room. I would've shut them down out of despite the damn money.
Predatory corporations like Intel need to be taught a lesson occasionally.
Hammer, Hammer, Hammer!
Err sorry; mathematical error and I looked up the pricing and it was $20 for 5MB data. I meant voice should take ~60Kb/sec, not KB... and 160 seconds = 2 min 40 sec... so $20 buys me the equivalent of ~10.5 minutes.
I almost ordered a T-Mobile PocketPC a couple weeks ago until I figured out what bandwidth costs. They want $20/month for 10MB transfer. Ouch. The voice capability probably sucks 64KB/sec so if you look at it a certain way,
10,485,760B (10MB) = 65536B (64KB)*seconds
Seconds = 160!
So I can get 300 or so minutes per month @ $20/month but $20 only buys me 1 minute 40 seconds of data transfer. Damn they're trying to stick it to the early adopters!
Grr you /.'ers are a curious bunch. www.yerhost.com log excerpt:
/scripts/..%5c%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe /c+dir 80 - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - 404
.NET Beta 3; hopefully most've you don't know what to do with it yet. And if you do please be nice :)
09-11 23:54:24 192.168.1.2 GET
Exploiter attempter's ip replaced with x's. I'm running
I know where about 50 TB/week go :)
Coolmon screenshot:
http://www.yerhost.com/sshot.gif
I hope they aren't lies. I hope the populace is foregoing spending cash when the RIAA or MPAA get's a cut. I haven't been to (a theatre), bought or rented any media for the past year. Drain those organizations pockets and lessen their legal influence!
I've used 500 cd's this year; I burned ONE music cd.
:)
I bought CD-R's, not CD-Audio cd's; the RIAA gets royalties paid for each of those sold. The CD-R disks I bought play fine in my car (at least the one I burned did).
Total Cash spent that a portion of was funneled to the RIAA or MPAA this year: Their cut of a $24 jetski video. I hope to do better next year
I hate Intel due to some of their business tactics (mafia-like), but I hate lawyers even more. This lawsuit is groundless. They advertise their processors run at x mhz and they do. End of story.
I do believe if you took a 6 year old 'mentally disadvantaged' person an placed them as CEO of Intel 5 years ago, they would've made better decisions than have been made. Intel is a powerhouse with lots've smart folks working for them, but good god, how can they be so dumb?
Mistakes:
1) RDRam
2) A new socket every 3 months
3) It seems marketing had a large role to play with the P4's architecture (GHZ is all that matters; screw performance)
4) The biggie: The Itanic (their 64 bit proc). I doubt we'll have a compiler that really works for it in the next decade. AMD's Hammer (and the P4 and the Athlon XP and the P3 for that matter) basically do the compiler's job of scheduling multiple instructions per clock cycle in hardware. I doubt anyone can write a compiler for the Itanic to come close to the efficiency of hardware (with the possible exception of a few simple applications).
I will enjoy wathing Intel die; their only chance IMO is Yamhill (which I hope will take them at least 3 years to release, therefor giving AMD a huge headstart and some profit to put into R&D).
mailto: usptoinfo@uspto.gov
How can you continue to grant patents for crap like this:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
There's a wealth of prior art if you took the time to look.
Now this predatory company will reap the benefits of a patent that should never have been granted:
http://www.activebuddy.com/press/index.
Why? Are you pressured to grant patents for the revenue regardless of the merit of the proposed patent?
Hmm I wonder what and if they will reply.
Dear me@mydomain.com,
The United States Patent and Trademark Office received your e-mail on 8/15/02. You will receive a response or a status from General Information Services as quickly as possible and within 1 day. Your tracking number for this request is T200208150049.
Thank You
IA64 in a nutshell:
:)
IA64 is trying to offload the work the pipeline does (schedule parallel instruction) to a compiler. The scilicon design could be simple and elegant... but the compiler will be very, very difficult.
IF it's possible to write a good compiler, I think it's going to take years. AMD wins
Intel will try to get Yamhill out ASAP and will be forced to pay licencing fees to AMD for their instruction set.
AMD's David may very well topple two Goliaths (Intel, and Microsoft if they're dumb enough to overprice their 64bit OS, sending people to linux instead).
There's no way pricing per connected pc will work unless the FTC lets the big guys monopolize broadband (and if they did that, they'd probably 'proprietary'ize it as well). It just doesn't make sense. If they want to bill 'per pc connected', they need to define some things. Definition of connected(yes or no to these items): My laptop which I occasionally plug into my router 10 friends who come over for a lanparty My pda when browsing via usb via my broadband connection? Defenition of PC (yes or no to these items): Router Hub Linux PC functioning solely as a router Webserver GameServer Console Game Systems WiFi Access points It doesn't make sense. Cable and DSL companies need to come up with a new model. How about this unoriginal thought, "Price it according to cost and overhead". Here's my guide :)
For all below, you need to mark it up x% for your current overhead (estimating your revenue) and perhaps even farther to grow your infastructure (if your business is healthy).
Charge your cost for tech support! (When it's not the ISP's fault)
Charge people to set up their accounts (most already do)
Webhosting is an extra charge at cost (you can't compete with the big and/or free guys; why try)
Email is an extra charge at cost (see above)
News is an extra charge at cost (see above)
Charge cost for IP's
Charge for dynamic IP's by the minute (should equal = the cost for a static IP per minute). Let users who aren't on 24x7 share their dynamic ip with others so you don't have to have as many. You could charge less at non peak times.
Don't get greedy!
I'm spoiled at the moment with a ~1500Kb up / 1000Kb down connection for $30 a month with a static IP and 4 to 5 machines on it.
I upload ~12GB per day (gigabytes). I really wonder how much this bandwidth costs the ISP (ignoring overhead).