I agree with the rest of the people that replied to this. It's highly doubtful that Apple with ditch Intel on their computers because they just made the change and people are just now starting to accept it. Well, I'd agree that they won't ditch Intel outright. But what's stopping them from marketing products based on both architectures? They already support them both, and PPC could have some distinct advantages for blades, handhelds, etc.
Given that they already support them both, they really have no reason to allow themselves to be locked into either one exclusively. They can use whichever processor best suits the particular product.
Well, there's nothing that says Apple can't produce products based on both Intel and PPC. Given that they have plenty of experience with both architectures and a processor agnostic OS, that's not entirely beyond the pale...
If the problem is reliance on Windows, then Linux is the solution, not an even tighter software and hardware lock-in. It's got nothing to do with reliance on Windows. It's just about accommodating the preferences of individual users. Some IBMers prefer Windows, some Linux, some Mac OS. There's no move afoot in IBM for a mass movement off of Windows.
Well, things are a little different now. When Apple first allowed cloning, Mac hardware was Apple's main source of revenue. Now it's the iPod. Not only that, Apple has since become a formidable application software vendor in their own right. It now might very well be to Apple's advantage to grow the OS X ecosystem, even at the cost of losing some hardware sales.
Even if they don't want to license their desktop OS, I've often wondered why they wouldn't license OS X Server to 3rd parties. Apple has no substantial server business now, and clearly they have no intention of building one in the foreseeable future. Why they don't just license the server software to an HP or IBM or Dell and let companies like those build OS X's presence as a server OS is beyond me...
It's literally pennies to pull it out in Kuwait. But Oil is trading for over $100/barrel now. So if the costs are anything up to about $50/barrel to recover, there's still some profit motive left to go after it.
I remember reading a few years ago the cost was around $65 a barrel. At a time when oil was $15-$20 a barrel, that sounded outrageous. Now it sounds like a bargain.
Years later, after the disc proved to be the better in terms of reproduction costs and storage and all-around convenience, Edison reluctantly abandoned the cylinders in favor of Berliner's discs.
Actually, he never did adopt Berliner's disks. He used another proprietary format called the Diamond Disk. It differed from the standard Berliner disk in that it was played at 80 RPM's rather than 78, used a reproducer with a diamond stylus rather than steel, had vertical grooves rather than lateral ones, and were about a quarter inch thick.
Edison had the distinction of introducing the first long-playing disk in 1926. They were Diamond Disks that were about 12", and could contain about 40 minutes of music.
Actually, the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money, or at least it used to be. Sort of makes you wonder who might actually be doing what, and what's at stake...
Especially considering Lou Gerstner, former CEO of IBM, is on the board of the Carlyle Group. That's a bit of a WTF moment right there...
Now those designs are truly ugly. Actually, I thought they were back when they came out too.
Yeah, when they first came out, they were affectionately known as the "toilet-seat Mac". But they're actually quite sturdy machines. I just refurbed one for a friend. Put in a 100GB drive and 512M of RAM, and it runs Tiger quite nicely. Not the latest and greatest, of course, but he only wants to run MS office, email and iTunes on it. He'll still get quite a few good years out of it....
I agree with what you are saying. In fact, you have a good point about how the salary method can be actually advantageous.
It may be advantageous in a few cases, but the effected employees know that in this case, it won't be.
First, while we're allegedly going to be making up the loss in overtime, we've been here long enough to know the other shoe will eventually drop. When management wants to make cuts, they'll start with cutting OT hours. They do that with contractors already. This effectively means you aren't going to be seeing that 15% again.
Second, consider your vacation pay, bonuses, and other bennies, are figured on your base salary, not on what you earn with overtime.
I believe the Canadian government, among others, is also manufacturing disc-shaped pieces of metal and rectangular pieces of papers as their currency and recommending them for general purchases. When are we invading?
Plus, it's crazy to claim that the money is yours alone when, hey, there wouldn't be coinage without the government and they can determine what to do with it. If you don't like it, start bartering.
Actually, there were people trying to do exactly that, but the government didn't like the competition...
The founders of the U.S. had a problem with taxation without representation, not taxation in general. As long as elected representatives have overseen taxation and government expenditure, all is running as intended. This Slashdot mentality of "This money is mine, and the government is just stealing it!" is just elitist dismissal of democracy, because you think you know better how money should be spent than your community.
You might want to try reading the original Constitution, prior to the 16th Amendment. You might notice that not only did it proscribe direct taxation of the citizenry, but the word "democracy" doesn't appear even once.
Something tells me you don't understand the intentions of the founders as well as you think you do.
25 years from now, probably more than a few of those college students will have created something profitable that will be subject to IP laws. I guarantee, at that point their perspectives on the matter will change.
College students also tend to be partial to socialism, too - until they start earning a living and take a look at the taxes deducted from their paychecks. Same principle applies....
It also had a much smaller crew module and in part, was built to scare the crap out of the Soviets.
That's why I don't get this part:
Work is progressing on the design of the new Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), the next generation of NASA spacecraft that will take humans to the International Space Station, back to the Moon, and hopefully on to Mars.
Ok, I can see Orion as viable for trips to the ISS and the moon - but Mars? Does anyone really think this is an adequate vehicle for that?
There IS good of course, some of the new features I actually dismissed turn out to be awesome, like, not willing to downgrade back to 10.4 awesome, so I'm going to tough it out. But if I had to turn back time I'd wait until some time next year to order my copy.
Agree. I upgraded my personal laptop, but for the one I use for work I installed Leopard on a USB attached drive just to make sure all the things I need are going to work. Mostly they do, but something about the "feel" of Leopard still seems rough around the edges. I think I'll wait for a couple of point releases before the work machine gets the Leopard treatment....
The western world is not in ascendency, it is in decline. The fact that Orion, a project with the same capabilities on paper as Apollo had, is set to take longer than it did in the 1960s is proof of this. Given the escalating costs of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon Iran, I can't see how NASA can maintain enough of a budget for 25 years.
You might be on to something. If you had asked me in 1967 what the role of religion was going to be in the shiny new 21st century, I'd have laughed and said, "Extinct!".
If you had told me my country was going to be involved in what amounts to a religious war in the middle-east, I'd have thought you were nuts.
We aren't headed to the stars, we're headed back to the middle-ages. Fasten your seat belts, folks!
I won't say that I don't get any calls anymore, but the situation is vastly improved. A few years ago, I was working out of state, and I'd come home on the weekends to find over a hundred calls recorded on my caller ID. This was before I had voice mail, and the volume of calls I was getting literally broke my answering machine!
Now, yeah, I still get several calls a day from "Toll Free Number", but it's easy enough to just not answer those, and at least the phone isn't ringing constantly. This is one of the few times government actually did something right....
So far the biggest problem is with airport disks. The support is a bit wonky.
Yep. Had that problem. First it saw it, then it didn't. Then it refused to log into my Airport network. Then it trashed my Keychain. Also had to re-install my printer drivers. Also an attempt to preview a file on a network attached disk, it spun for about 20 minutes before coming back with anything. Then spotlight took about an hour and a half to index a 90GB drive.
It's not a total disaster, it's just an old G4 iBook I use for email and iTunes, which thankfully both work. Still, I'll wait for a point release before I install it on any machine I actually use for work.
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Given that they already support them both, they really have no reason to allow themselves to be locked into either one exclusively. They can use whichever processor best suits the particular product.
Well, there's nothing that says Apple can't produce products based on both Intel and PPC. Given that they have plenty of experience with both architectures and a processor agnostic OS, that's not entirely beyond the pale...
Well, things are a little different now. When Apple first allowed cloning, Mac hardware was Apple's main source of revenue. Now it's the iPod. Not only that, Apple has since become a formidable application software vendor in their own right. It now might very well be to Apple's advantage to grow the OS X ecosystem, even at the cost of losing some hardware sales.
Even if they don't want to license their desktop OS, I've often wondered why they wouldn't license OS X Server to 3rd parties. Apple has no substantial server business now, and clearly they have no intention of building one in the foreseeable future. Why they don't just license the server software to an HP or IBM or Dell and let companies like those build OS X's presence as a server OS is beyond me...
It's literally pennies to pull it out in Kuwait. But Oil is trading for over $100/barrel now. So if the costs are anything up to about $50/barrel to recover, there's still some profit motive left to go after it.
I remember reading a few years ago the cost was around $65 a barrel. At a time when oil was $15-$20 a barrel, that sounded outrageous. Now it sounds like a bargain.
Years later, after the disc proved to be the better in terms of reproduction costs and storage and all-around convenience, Edison reluctantly abandoned the cylinders in favor of Berliner's discs.
Actually, he never did adopt Berliner's disks. He used another proprietary format called the Diamond Disk. It differed from the standard Berliner disk in that it was played at 80 RPM's rather than 78, used a reproducer with a diamond stylus rather than steel, had vertical grooves rather than lateral ones, and were about a quarter inch thick.
Edison had the distinction of introducing the first long-playing disk in 1926. They were Diamond Disks that were about 12", and could contain about 40 minutes of music.
This is exactly not what the term 'Free Market' means, especially if you are already the monopolist.
Tell it to Coca-Cola. Since when has making use of trade secrets to secure a competitive advantage been contrary to a free market?
Actually, the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money, or at least it used to be. Sort of makes you wonder who might actually be doing what, and what's at stake...
Especially considering Lou Gerstner, former CEO of IBM, is on the board of the Carlyle Group. That's a bit of a WTF moment right there...
Now those designs are truly ugly. Actually, I thought they were back when they came out too.
Yeah, when they first came out, they were affectionately known as the "toilet-seat Mac". But they're actually quite sturdy machines. I just refurbed one for a friend. Put in a 100GB drive and 512M of RAM, and it runs Tiger quite nicely. Not the latest and greatest, of course, but he only wants to run MS office, email and iTunes on it. He'll still get quite a few good years out of it....
I agree with what you are saying. In fact, you have a good point about how the salary method can be actually advantageous.
It may be advantageous in a few cases, but the effected employees know that in this case, it won't be.
First, while we're allegedly going to be making up the loss in overtime, we've been here long enough to know the other shoe will eventually drop. When management wants to make cuts, they'll start with cutting OT hours. They do that with contractors already. This effectively means you aren't going to be seeing that 15% again.
Second, consider your vacation pay, bonuses, and other bennies, are figured on your base salary, not on what you earn with overtime.
Any way you look at it, this is a pay cut.
Then there's the ever popular Channel101, offering us entertainment like this...
I believe the Canadian government, among others, is also manufacturing disc-shaped pieces of metal and rectangular pieces of papers as their currency and recommending them for general purchases. When are we invading?
That's odd - nobody has been charged with fraud. Or anything else, for that matter. Who is claiming to have been defrauded?
Plus, it's crazy to claim that the money is yours alone when, hey, there wouldn't be coinage without the government and they can determine what to do with it. If you don't like it, start bartering.
Actually, there were people trying to do exactly that, but the government didn't like the competition...
The founders of the U.S. had a problem with taxation without representation, not taxation in general. As long as elected representatives have overseen taxation and government expenditure, all is running as intended. This Slashdot mentality of "This money is mine, and the government is just stealing it!" is just elitist dismissal of democracy, because you think you know better how money should be spent than your community.
You might want to try reading the original Constitution, prior to the 16th Amendment. You might notice that not only did it proscribe direct taxation of the citizenry, but the word "democracy" doesn't appear even once.
Something tells me you don't understand the intentions of the founders as well as you think you do.
It might be arguable that it should, but the reality is that it never will.
One more argument for keeping money in the pocket of the people who earn it, rather than the government's....
25 years from now, probably more than a few of those college students will have created something profitable that will be subject to IP laws. I guarantee, at that point their perspectives on the matter will change.
College students also tend to be partial to socialism, too - until they start earning a living and take a look at the taxes deducted from their paychecks. Same principle applies....
That's why I don't get this part:
Ok, I can see Orion as viable for trips to the ISS and the moon - but Mars? Does anyone really think this is an adequate vehicle for that?
There IS good of course, some of the new features I actually dismissed turn out to be awesome, like, not willing to downgrade back to 10.4 awesome, so I'm going to tough it out. But if I had to turn back time I'd wait until some time next year to order my copy.
Agree. I upgraded my personal laptop, but for the one I use for work I installed Leopard on a USB attached drive just to make sure all the things I need are going to work. Mostly they do, but something about the "feel" of Leopard still seems rough around the edges. I think I'll wait for a couple of point releases before the work machine gets the Leopard treatment....
The western world is not in ascendency, it is in decline. The fact that Orion, a project with the same capabilities on paper as Apollo had, is set to take longer than it did in the 1960s is proof of this. Given the escalating costs of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon Iran, I can't see how NASA can maintain enough of a budget for 25 years.
You might be on to something. If you had asked me in 1967 what the role of religion was going to be in the shiny new 21st century, I'd have laughed and said, "Extinct!".
If you had told me my country was going to be involved in what amounts to a religious war in the middle-east, I'd have thought you were nuts.
We aren't headed to the stars, we're headed back to the middle-ages. Fasten your seat belts, folks!
I won't say that I don't get any calls anymore, but the situation is vastly improved. A few years ago, I was working out of state, and I'd come home on the weekends to find over a hundred calls recorded on my caller ID. This was before I had voice mail, and the volume of calls I was getting literally broke my answering machine!
Now, yeah, I still get several calls a day from "Toll Free Number", but it's easy enough to just not answer those, and at least the phone isn't ringing constantly. This is one of the few times government actually did something right....
Indeed. The new comment system is a big, fat pain in the ass. Kind of like Slashdot's version of Vista.
So far the biggest problem is with airport disks. The support is a bit wonky.
Yep. Had that problem. First it saw it, then it didn't. Then it refused to log into my Airport network. Then it trashed my Keychain. Also had to re-install my printer drivers. Also an attempt to preview a file on a network attached disk, it spun for about 20 minutes before coming back with anything. Then spotlight took about an hour and a half to index a 90GB drive.
It's not a total disaster, it's just an old G4 iBook I use for email and iTunes, which thankfully both work. Still, I'll wait for a point release before I install it on any machine I actually use for work.
Aye -- IBM has apparently abandoned SmartSuit -- they don't plan on even making a Vista-compatible version, from what I hear.
Maybe that's part of the rationale behind this. Maybe IBM wants to be able to promote OpenOffice as the migration path for SmartSuite users.
Take a look -- it ain't quite your daddy's Lotus Notes anymore.
Yeah - but how does the Mac version look?