From some one who spent to many years crawling around bombers on a flight line, I assure you, there is always a “CAN” aircraft on the ramp. One specifically used to cannibalize parts from when in a hurry. Think of it as spare memory or hard drive during the war room.
It will be pulled completely apart and you think it will be scraped.... Then when it's phase inspection is due, they will put it back together and fly it. Feel for the sap that signed off on that plugs Red X. He just hit the EPO!
Thats true! For myself and my personal bad habits of neglecting to backup my system. My little cloud app of 100GB has saved me more then once. The last time I tried to be stupid and go from stable to testing I ended with a brand new install. I even dumped the home folder, everything I needed was safely tucked away in a spider web on the cloud.
You may want to re-look at the clouds, for around $500 a year you can really have a nice lab, spin up and down systems till your heart is content. The big issue is you need to be aware of your usage. Power off systems your not playing with. It is a play ground, don't leave them running just because.
Virtual Box is a great idea if you want to buy a new box. but you will spend more in two years on that PC, 4core minimum and 16GB of ram, (my minimum) and power, then you will renting a little slice of a cloud.
It's computing in a new way, and need to be looked at differently. Plus you have easy access to it from anywhere.
I particularly like the part about support, "support when needed" Microsoft providing the resources where needed. I still get my MS support same place I get my Open Office support "google". My IT budget isn't big enough to pay a Microsoft employee to search tech net. Then tell me it will be fixed with the next service release.
What I don't understand is how Bruce can make the statment;
" It's not only desktop. It must be desktop and server."
One of his comments from the artical UserLinux Proposal (And Analysis).
I thought userlinux was about the desktop, and Linux is about choices.
Ansel Adams was a purest, being one of the founders of the f 64 club I find it hard to believe Ansal would transition to that medium. Like all Professional, and amateur photographers I'm sure he would have his foot in the door, learning playing and experimenting. I am also sure that when digital can match traditional black and white photography he would be there. But for know he would still be in the dark room.
I think if you have to support server and have the great stability that Debian offers, you have to draw a line. Let the service companies add or support server apps. I just think "stable" is to slow for a desktop.
I have been extremely happy with the Debian distribution for some time. My servers running stable are stable, and my desktop running unstable, well it keeps a window box close by.
I don't get the "umbrella service organization, sitting on top of individual service companies".It sound to much like a single source. Single sources of anything should be avoided.
Perhaps we should get a fillet knife and fillet Debian; we could fork it into a stable Desktop system with no server daemons, just good solid working "desktop" and admin apps. We can call it Nemo in the Pixar tradition.
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From some one who spent to many years crawling around bombers on a flight line, I assure you, there is always a “CAN” aircraft on the ramp. One specifically used to cannibalize parts from when in a hurry. Think of it as spare memory or hard drive during the war room. It will be pulled completely apart and you think it will be scraped.... Then when it's phase inspection is due, they will put it back together and fly it. Feel for the sap that signed off on that plugs Red X. He just hit the EPO!
Thats true! For myself and my personal bad habits of neglecting to backup my system. My little cloud app of 100GB has saved me more then once. The last time I tried to be stupid and go from stable to testing I ended with a brand new install. I even dumped the home folder, everything I needed was safely tucked away in a spider web on the cloud.
You may want to re-look at the clouds, for around $500 a year you can really have a nice lab, spin up and down systems till your heart is content. The big issue is you need to be aware of your usage. Power off systems your not playing with. It is a play ground, don't leave them running just because. Virtual Box is a great idea if you want to buy a new box. but you will spend more in two years on that PC, 4core minimum and 16GB of ram, (my minimum) and power, then you will renting a little slice of a cloud. It's computing in a new way, and need to be looked at differently. Plus you have easy access to it from anywhere.
I particularly like the part about support, "support when needed" Microsoft providing the resources where needed. I still get my MS support same place I get my Open Office support "google". My IT budget isn't big enough to pay a Microsoft employee to search tech net. Then tell me it will be fixed with the next service release.
What I don't understand is how Bruce can make the statment; " It's not only desktop. It must be desktop and server." One of his comments from the artical UserLinux Proposal (And Analysis). I thought userlinux was about the desktop, and Linux is about choices.
Ansel Adams was a purest, being one of the founders of the f 64 club I find it hard to believe Ansal would transition to that medium. Like all Professional, and amateur photographers I'm sure he would have his foot in the door, learning playing and experimenting. I am also sure that when digital can match traditional black and white photography he would be there. But for know he would still be in the dark room.
I think if you have to support server and have the great stability that Debian offers, you have to draw a line. Let the service companies add or support server apps. I just think "stable" is to slow for a desktop.
I have been extremely happy with the Debian distribution for some time. My servers running stable are stable, and my desktop running unstable, well it keeps a window box close by. I don't get the "umbrella service organization, sitting on top of individual service companies".It sound to much like a single source. Single sources of anything should be avoided. Perhaps we should get a fillet knife and fillet Debian; we could fork it into a stable Desktop system with no server daemons, just good solid working "desktop" and admin apps. We can call it Nemo in the Pixar tradition.
You're not the only one. I suggested they roll there own with Progeny. Focus on there strength the small to medium business.