Well, let's say that you bought 20 copies of the book, and that part of the deal is that you must tell the owner of the copyright which bookshelves you're keeping the book on.
You decide at some point to replace the books and throw them out. Seven years later, a company that claims to have bought the copyrights of the books contacts you and wants to know what shelves contain their books. However, they want more information, info that you are not contractually obligated to give them, such as what other books do you have on other shelves, etc.
So, you take your own sweet time responding, and you respond with only the contractually required information, which is, "None of your books are on any of our shelves."
The company sues you. Then the judge throws out all your claims except for the one about taking your own sweet time to answer, which is pretty meaningless on it's own without all the other claims.
In SCO v. Novell, Novell is the defendant and SCO is the plaintiff. I forget if Novell has counter-sued or not.
However, you could easily argued that this suit was a defensive measure designed to shore up SCO's defenses, since without copyright they've got nothing. (And like most of you, I'm pretty sure they have nothing.)
SCO is a corporation. What's more it's one that bought the so called rights they so called hold. They didn't write much of anything and even if they had those rights would reside strictly with the corporation, having been work for hire
I know you meant allegedly bought, since the Novell case concerns what they actually bought. To hear Novell's side of it, SCO did not buy copyrights to SysV. The documents seem to back up Novell's interpretation, although admittedly they are not clear cut as to exactly what was intended at the time.
Despite the frothing at the mouth and other hyperbole that goes on over at Groklaw, they are probably the best source of accurate information, especially as compared to mainstream tech news, which relies on SCO's PR department to interpret the legal documents and court cases.
It is indeed unfortunate that PJ can't help but sound hysterical from time to time. I really got turned off when she compared Linus to a baby harp seal and the enemies of Linux to baby harp seal hunters. When I and others complained that this was a bit much, our posts were removed from the forums and we were told we weren't welcome if we were going to criticize. So, I still read the news there, but I don't read the commentary or post to it.
Bottom line on Groklaw:
Accurate timely information - check Excellent legal analysis - check Rabid partisanship that puts/. to shame - check
The last part does not in any way affect the first two, though if you weren't intelligent enough to discern between information, analysis, and opinion, it might give you trouble.
Sure, the lawyers are making out, but they're just the henchmen in this scenario. Look at the SCO executives, then look behind them at the Canopy group. There's your Dr. Evil.
I believe that this whole "THING" has been a stock pumping and FUD campaign from the beginning, so "confidence in the merits of their case" really has nothing to do with it. Attacking a mom-and-pop storefront would not have accomplished very much of anything. (Even if these were legitimate cases, SCO would want to go after money. You can't recover millions from a mom and pop.) A mom and pop wouldn't have made a suitable example.
SCO sued DC and AZ to keep their name in the news and their stock price up. Maybe they actually hoped this would intimidate other comppanies into purchasing licenses for linux from them. Regardless, SCO had to sue someone noteworthy, after months of threats, if only to prove that they had a bite as well as a bark.
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Wow! And that wasn't even with Steve around! Maybe Scully really was a bigger a-hole than Fearless Leader, although that's pretty hard to imagine.
the spec sheet doesn't do it justice; you have to use it for a bit
Werd. I thought they were overpriced and of little use, but I went for one when I was offered a very good deal. After using it for a few days, I got it. It's an amazing device, and I wouldn't hesitate to get another, even at full retail.
I feel silly saying it, but the iPod has changed my life for the better.
Windows installs with everything on by default. Other OSes come with certain features off by default, which is why just about any OS is safer than windows out of the box.
Anyway, I think you sort of proved the point of someone coming from the windows side having difficulties with your question.
Enough with the lame ass car analogies. While I prefer OS X, others prefer Linux or need to be able to boot linux. If these people can appreciate Apple hardware, what's your problem?
Under the hood, it's basically BSD, so it's a far better UNIX clone than LINUX will ever be.
Oh, excuse me. I just realized you're just trolling. Carry on.
I happen to think you've got a valid complaint. I got over it, and find I like the way iTunes does things better, but I'm me and you're you. It's too bad that there isn't an option to satisfy you, something like "follow my directory structure".
I had kept a back up, but after 2 weeks I actually liked the iTunes way better. You gave it 2 weeks, so no one should fault you. It can be frustrating when software seems to embody the idea, "It's easier if you just do it our way instead of your way", but I just stopped resisting and found it was really easier. Oh, and Kool Aid helped.
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I guess there's a reason you're the rocket scientist, and a reason I don't know what I was thinking. =)
Tunes can be a verb. "Commander Taco tunes his piano, then tweaks his organ."
That really ircs me.
Well, let's say that you bought 20 copies of the book, and that part of the deal is that you must tell the owner of the copyright which bookshelves you're keeping the book on.
You decide at some point to replace the books and throw them out. Seven years later, a company that claims to have bought the copyrights of the books contacts you and wants to know what shelves contain their books. However, they want more information, info that you are not contractually obligated to give them, such as what other books do you have on other shelves, etc.
So, you take your own sweet time responding, and you respond with only the contractually required information, which is, "None of your books are on any of our shelves."
The company sues you. Then the judge throws out all your claims except for the one about taking your own sweet time to answer, which is pretty meaningless on it's own without all the other claims.
They might try saying "Tankity tank", but I don't think they can even manage a "stabity-stab."
In SCO v. Novell, Novell is the defendant and SCO is the plaintiff. I forget if Novell has counter-sued or not.
However, you could easily argued that this suit was a defensive measure designed to shore up SCO's defenses, since without copyright they've got nothing. (And like most of you, I'm pretty sure they have nothing.)
I want to move to where ever you're from! I bet the sky is always blue and the climate is perfect, too. =)
It would be great if those things you've predicted come to pass as they would in a perfect world, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
About the best one could hope for is a stockholder class action suit.
I know you meant allegedly bought, since the Novell case concerns what they actually bought. To hear Novell's side of it, SCO did not buy copyrights to SysV. The documents seem to back up Novell's interpretation, although admittedly they are not clear cut as to exactly what was intended at the time.
Despite the frothing at the mouth and other hyperbole that goes on over at Groklaw, they are probably the best source of accurate information, especially as compared to mainstream tech news, which relies on SCO's PR department to interpret the legal documents and court cases.
/. to shame - check
It is indeed unfortunate that PJ can't help but sound hysterical from time to time. I really got turned off when she compared Linus to a baby harp seal and the enemies of Linux to baby harp seal hunters. When I and others complained that this was a bit much, our posts were removed from the forums and we were told we weren't welcome if we were going to criticize. So, I still read the news there, but I don't read the commentary or post to it.
Bottom line on Groklaw:
Accurate timely information - check
Excellent legal analysis - check
Rabid partisanship that puts
The last part does not in any way affect the first two, though if you weren't intelligent enough to discern between information, analysis, and opinion, it might give you trouble.
Sure, the lawyers are making out, but they're just the henchmen in this scenario. Look at the SCO executives, then look behind them at the Canopy group. There's your Dr. Evil.
I believe that this whole "THING" has been a stock pumping and FUD campaign from the beginning, so "confidence in the merits of their case" really has nothing to do with it. Attacking a mom-and-pop storefront would not have accomplished very much of anything. (Even if these were legitimate cases, SCO would want to go after money. You can't recover millions from a mom and pop.) A mom and pop wouldn't have made a suitable example.
SCO sued DC and AZ to keep their name in the news and their stock price up. Maybe they actually hoped this would intimidate other comppanies into purchasing licenses for linux from them. Regardless, SCO had to sue someone noteworthy, after months of threats, if only to prove that they had a bite as well as a bark.
Wow! And that wasn't even with Steve around! Maybe Scully really was a bigger a-hole than Fearless Leader, although that's pretty hard to imagine.
And no, this isn't a troll. I love The Leader.
the spec sheet doesn't do it justice; you have to use it for a bit
Werd. I thought they were overpriced and of little use, but I went for one when I was offered a very good deal. After using it for a few days, I got it. It's an amazing device, and I wouldn't hesitate to get another, even at full retail.
I feel silly saying it, but the iPod has changed my life for the better.
Dude, study some biology. Cooked Spaghetti is an invertaebrate, because filleting is part of the cooking process. You're thinking of raw carrots.
Wrong! Cowboy Neal! What is best?
Cowboy Neal: To crush your enemies! To see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!
Why not a pixelvision? Why, just by using the word pixelvision (twice now), I've greatly increased the artistic value of this post.
No, what's that? I'm still learning fractions.
I thought it was $27,000 for tuition. I guess they needed to raise prices if they're going to be giving away free iPods.
In Soviet Russia, you install your 12" in your software.
You just love windows, don't you? =)
Windows installs with everything on by default. Other OSes come with certain features off by default, which is why just about any OS is safer than windows out of the box.
Anyway, I think you sort of proved the point of someone coming from the windows side having difficulties with your question.
I happen to think you've got a valid complaint. I got over it, and find I like the way iTunes does things better, but I'm me and you're you. It's too bad that there isn't an option to satisfy you, something like "follow my directory structure".
I had kept a back up, but after 2 weeks I actually liked the iTunes way better. You gave it 2 weeks, so no one should fault you. It can be frustrating when software seems to embody the idea, "It's easier if you just do it our way instead of your way", but I just stopped resisting and found it was really easier. Oh, and Kool Aid helped.
Insightful? You are suggesting I reply to all my spam and say, I am sorry xxx@domain does not exist, thank you.
No, he's suggesting that you have your computer do it for you. You might want to look into this thing called automation.
I can't be bothered to RTFA. What's a gwu?
18 thousand dollars?
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18 MILLION DOLLARS!!