But the raw truth is that violence should be mandated as well but technology hasn't caught up to the demands of parents
technology hasn't caught up, what are you talking about?
the requirements from technology to stop violence to be shown on TV is no different from the technology that stops porn from the TV, or adds a beep over the word fuck
It's not an issue of technology at all. There's no trend here where you're going "1 step at a time", it's obvious that it is driven by sick sense of morals where even normal human sexuality is deemed more harmful than violent behavior, or where some parents feel a dirty word is more embarassing to explain than the reason why someone's head got blown off.
If you think technology is the answer you're way off.
I guess you are one of those people who don't mind your kid seeing blood, murder and violence on TV but thinks their psyche is irreversible destroyed if they ever see a female nipple on TV, something your children depended their lives on.
And the sad part is you don't even realize how fucked up that is.
Perhaps 20 years from now, we'll be discussing what really happened on 9/11 and the war on terror.
Indeed. Should be interesting. Sort of annoying we are forced to wait so long, would be much more helpful to know what's really going on today. But the world is what it is.
Although I don't believe the information about to be revealed 20 years from now will really help us in solving whatever the crisis of the day will be then. More than likely the would be lessons to be learned will again be ignored and whoever in the possession of power at that time will keep banging their head to the same old brick wall.
And the world spins around and around and around again.
You didn't read my whole comment, slick. I dealt with Vietnam.
No you didn't, "slick".
The My Lai massacre was orchestrated by people who gave the same "oath" you did, the people in charge of murdering hundreds of civilians -- including children -- also called themselves "professionals".
The systematic torture practiced by Green Berets in Vietnam was also by design of people under oath who called themselves "professionals".
These were clearly crimes against humanity, yet these "professionals" were never charged or punished for their actions.
The quality of people have not changed in the US army one bit. People such as Colin Powell participated both wars. Colin Powell himself was assigned to investigate the My Lai massacre and dismissed it.
I don't think the United States military has changed one bit.
You'll notice that the type of things that happened in Vietnam did not happen in the Gulf War.
Gulf War lasted how long? 42 days?
It's amazing what you can do with quality people and a little feedback, no?
I doubt it has anything to do with the "quality" of the paid murderers who participated.
There are criminals in the military just like there are criminals in all walks of life.
There sure are. And the US military accepts the actions of these criminals. They in fact encourage the criminal actions.
Or are all hackers really crackers?
No. But all crackers are held responsible for their actions when caught. US tries really hard to make sure their own soldier will never be charged for the murders they commit.
"I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."
You're not defending my right to say anything. You're thinking way too much of yourself.
However, assuming people guilty until proven innocent reflects poorly on your character.
Look, it goes like this: the crimes are obvious, they are public, nobody gets put in jail.
US military is an organization practicing organized form of crime, accepted and approved by the US government. People taking part of these murders are nothing but paid murderers, they deserve no respect nor should any be given to them.
You may think the rest of the world has forgotten the crimes the organization you represent has committed. We have not. When you are representing yourself as a member of the organization ("a professional" murderer as you like to call yourself) don't except people to assume anything other about yourself than what they assume about this organization. You're their spawn, their henchman, and you willingly follow what they tell you regardless of the overwhelming evidence that proves they're criminals.
A competent team of developers can write C++ code that is portable between Windows and Solaris with forks for the UI.
Of course they can. Or with any other language. With Java it is a lot less work though.
What good is Java if it still requires a team of senior engineers to avoid all the landmines?
Java, or any other programming language, will not do away with the fact that programmers in general need to know what the hell they are doing. If you thought you can go with Java and do not need experienced people to use it effectively, then you have made choices based on wrong assumptions.
As many have said before, that isn't write once run anywhere, it's write once test everywhere.
Again, just shows that you did not know what you were doing. Everyone doing serious Java development does extensive testing on the platforms they expect to use the most. Java does not promise to do away with testing. If you thought it will, then you made your choices based on bad assumptions.
WORA has worked great for me. People are using software written by me on platforms I never even anticipated while writing it. However, I do not think I can get quality Java software without an experienced programmers or by dropping solid testing procedures. It is quite stupid for anyone to think they could.
but all that "write once run anywhere" speak is just crap. I can't tell you how many hours I spent at a Solaris box trying to make code that worked perfectly under NT/2K to work under Solaris.
Hmm.. WORA seems to work just fine for me. I know shit about Solaris (or any OS really) but my Java programs seem to work quite reliably on all systems that have solid JVM implementations on them.
Of course, WORA is easily broken by a newbie programmer so it does require a competent team of Java developers to be able to achieve it.
abstraction is not easy, especially for a complex problem such as O/R mapping, that's why the evolution exists in the CMP spec
the abstraction is there however, today I can easily switch between different databases I use for my projects (from postgres to oracle for example). The abstraction exists there to a level where I can use these tools to manage most of the migration of the db schema from one db to another.
The performance issues are a matter of configuration of the CMP engine. My code stays the same. The abstraction is very real.
Okay, but why did the Universities pick Java in the *first place*?
Because by and large the world had moved from procedural programming to object oriented programming and Java was the 'cleanest' mainstream OOP language at the time therefore matching two critical requirements:
a) easy to teach good OO progamming practices with
b) relevance in the job market therefore motivating the students
Those would be my guesses. a) is not driven by marketing where as b) is
No one denies there was a huge marketing effort to get Java accepted in the mainstream but that does not mean the language itself is bad.
In my observation the popularity of Java is from a combination of PHB's and newbies who bought Sun's hype, and people who hate Microsoft so much that they will back just about anything that looks like it can hurt them.
Then your observations are extremely limited, considering for example that Java is widely used across universities to teach people to program. And people tend to stick with what they know.
Why do I need a billion dollar copy of WebSphere for that?
You don't. You use JBoss. Why would you build your own server from scratch when you can already customize and extend the JBoss core server as much as you need (be it for J2EE purposes or not).
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technology hasn't caught up, what are you talking about?
the requirements from technology to stop violence to be shown on TV is no different from the technology that stops porn from the TV, or adds a beep over the word fuck
It's not an issue of technology at all. There's no trend here where you're going "1 step at a time", it's obvious that it is driven by sick sense of morals where even normal human sexuality is deemed more harmful than violent behavior, or where some parents feel a dirty word is more embarassing to explain than the reason why someone's head got blown off.
If you think technology is the answer you're way off.
oh wait, you're half finnish.. maybe you should worry
I guess you are one of those people who don't mind your kid seeing blood, murder and violence on TV but thinks their psyche is irreversible destroyed if they ever see a female nipple on TV, something your children depended their lives on.
And the sad part is you don't even realize how fucked up that is.
Yes, just watch Al Qaeda attack Finland next!
Indeed. Should be interesting. Sort of annoying we are forced to wait so long, would be much more helpful to know what's really going on today. But the world is what it is.
Although I don't believe the information about to be revealed 20 years from now will really help us in solving whatever the crisis of the day will be then. More than likely the would be lessons to be learned will again be ignored and whoever in the possession of power at that time will keep banging their head to the same old brick wall.
And the world spins around and around and around again.
No you didn't, "slick".
The My Lai massacre was orchestrated by people who gave the same "oath" you did, the people in charge of murdering hundreds of civilians -- including children -- also called themselves "professionals".
The systematic torture practiced by Green Berets in Vietnam was also by design of people under oath who called themselves "professionals".
These were clearly crimes against humanity, yet these "professionals" were never charged or punished for their actions.
The quality of people have not changed in the US army one bit. People such as Colin Powell participated both wars. Colin Powell himself was assigned to investigate the My Lai massacre and dismissed it.
I don't think the United States military has changed one bit.
You'll notice that the type of things that happened in Vietnam did not happen in the Gulf War.
Gulf War lasted how long? 42 days?
It's amazing what you can do with quality people and a little feedback, no?
I doubt it has anything to do with the "quality" of the paid murderers who participated.
There are criminals in the military just like there are criminals in all walks of life.
There sure are. And the US military accepts the actions of these criminals. They in fact encourage the criminal actions.
Or are all hackers really crackers?
No. But all crackers are held responsible for their actions when caught. US tries really hard to make sure their own soldier will never be charged for the murders they commit.
"I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."
You're not defending my right to say anything. You're thinking way too much of yourself.
However, assuming people guilty until proven innocent reflects poorly on your character.
Look, it goes like this: the crimes are obvious, they are public, nobody gets put in jail.
US military is an organization practicing organized form of crime, accepted and approved by the US government. People taking part of these murders are nothing but paid murderers, they deserve no respect nor should any be given to them.
You may think the rest of the world has forgotten the crimes the organization you represent has committed. We have not. When you are representing yourself as a member of the organization ("a professional" murderer as you like to call yourself) don't except people to assume anything other about yourself than what they assume about this organization. You're their spawn, their henchman, and you willingly follow what they tell you regardless of the overwhelming evidence that proves they're criminals.
It certainly wasn't beneath you when the american soldiers were in Vietnam. Maybe people still remember and don't believe you have changed..?
I don't believe you have changed one bit.
Also, try to avoid looking like George Bush.
You must be living in a fantasy world, or are just being fucking naive.
There's a reason why the US wants to exempt its citizens from international justice system. The crimes committed by the US military forces are plentiful, yet there seems very little accountability to be going on in the US.
Of course they can. Or with any other language. With Java it is a lot less work though.
What good is Java if it still requires a team of senior engineers to avoid all the landmines?
Java, or any other programming language, will not do away with the fact that programmers in general need to know what the hell they are doing. If you thought you can go with Java and do not need experienced people to use it effectively, then you have made choices based on wrong assumptions.
As many have said before, that isn't write once run anywhere, it's write once test everywhere.
Again, just shows that you did not know what you were doing. Everyone doing serious Java development does extensive testing on the platforms they expect to use the most. Java does not promise to do away with testing. If you thought it will, then you made your choices based on bad assumptions.
WORA has worked great for me. People are using software written by me on platforms I never even anticipated while writing it. However, I do not think I can get quality Java software without an experienced programmers or by dropping solid testing procedures. It is quite stupid for anyone to think they could.
Hmm.. WORA seems to work just fine for me. I know shit about Solaris (or any OS really) but my Java programs seem to work quite reliably on all systems that have solid JVM implementations on them.
Of course, WORA is easily broken by a newbie programmer so it does require a competent team of Java developers to be able to achieve it.
sure, Linux plays a part in it, but its just another soldier among the rest
And get stuck in the Microsoft Windows, IIS, Exchange, SQL Server, VSS hell?
I'll take any approach over that one in a heart beat.
I think you're being overly optimistic here. Ask any VB developer how minimal the changes to move to .NET platform are. *smirk*
Pay more close attention to reality, and less attention to Microsoft marketing machine, please.
Fine by me, your contrived explanations had very little of substance in them anyway.
Which is a good reason to start teaching people how to solve problems using the OO paradigm, using a OOP language, such as Java.
Smalltalk? Python? OO-Pascal?
None of which are mainstream OOP languages. That's the leg up Java had.
yet you said that schools were one of the reason for market acceptence
I said no such thing. It plays a part to the popularity Java enjoys today.
If a bunch of experts looked at it and rated it, they would have given it a C.
Who would those experts be then?
the abstraction is there however, today I can easily switch between different databases I use for my projects (from postgres to oracle for example). The abstraction exists there to a level where I can use these tools to manage most of the migration of the db schema from one db to another.
The performance issues are a matter of configuration of the CMP engine. My code stays the same. The abstraction is very real.
Because by and large the world had moved from procedural programming to object oriented programming and Java was the 'cleanest' mainstream OOP language at the time therefore matching two critical requirements:
a) easy to teach good OO progamming practices with
b) relevance in the job market therefore motivating the students
Those would be my guesses. a) is not driven by marketing where as b) is
No one denies there was a huge marketing effort to get Java accepted in the mainstream but that does not mean the language itself is bad.
2) A well written CMP2 engine will give you a great deal of flexibility on how JDBC is used (read-ahead buffering, load groups, etc.)
Then your observations are extremely limited, considering for example that Java is widely used across universities to teach people to program. And people tend to stick with what they know.
I guess there's nothing to a server in case you don't need pooling, caching, transactions, security.
But then your server sucks hairy old goat balls.
that was extremely secure because we hard coded the only two files it would serve
Ahhh! All middleware problems solved! Congratulations.
You don't. You use JBoss. Why would you build your own server from scratch when you can already customize and extend the JBoss core server as much as you need (be it for J2EE purposes or not).
That's about the most stupid thing you can do at the server side.
Eclipse does not use Swing....
Eclipse is a fucking IDE, how does that bear any relevance to the J2EE spec.