Once again i asked why should the EFF get involved. This has nothing to do with OUR RIGHTS. Please find where on the EFF website does it state they fight to enforce the GPL or other copyright licenses. Is cherry os infringing on my right to free speach on the net? Is cherry OS violating my privacy? Is cherry os saying I can't publish my code? Is cherry saying I can't reverse engineer their product? Please enlighten me to why they should get involved in this case?
Not always true. I had soundblaster live card that used to freeze up my system all the time under win98. Funny thing is that mp3 I was playing kept playing until the end of song and then stopped. So in order for that to happen, the cpu still had to be decoding the mp3 and the ram still had be feeding the PCI channel with data.
Really? Thats why EMC data storage has a tech come out every month to exchange a bad drive. Or thats why after 6 months of use, emc came out to replace a bad stick of ram. Luckily the EMC makes quality products that report errors before they cause data loss or failure but the consumer market can't afford these luxories. Ask yourself this, why do servers use ECC ram? Ram flipping a bit can easily take down a box and its going to happen.
Yawn.. There's nothing in the GPL that says you can't sell a GPL'ed product. There is clause that states if you distribute GPL software, you have to provide access to the code.
It doesn't matter if CherryOS is selling the GPL code or not. It is still the exact same license violation.
And since all you slashbotters like to refer to GPL license violation as theft. Here's analogy for you. Someone steals my car and uses it himself, or someone steals my car and sells it. Should we ignore the person who steals my car and uses it personally? Yes this is a bad analogy, much like calling a GPL violation theft.
So what does GPL violations have to do with EFF? EFF protects our right to free speach on the internet, it has nothing to do with enforcing copyright licenses. Asking EFF to help out with this case is like asking the ACLU to help out. I donate money to both organizations, and I sure as hell don't any of them putting their resources into enforcing a copyright license since it does NOT affect any of my constitutional rights, consumer rights or personal freedoms.
I sure hope you're not donating to organization that you do not fully understand their mission statement.
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Sure. Its called linux and I guess what, I don't have to pay $130 for upgrades. Speaking of which, tiger is coming out soon, time to shell out some more money for upgrades. $130 you pay for upgrading your os, I'll buy a mid line video card.
And even i did run windows, I could still download mozilla,php,whatever the perl interpreter(active perl i think). BTW tell me when open office has a native aqua support.
With apple you pay for their style, but I'm not guy who cares about looks. I like functionality.
You made my point. Disposable products with no upgrade path. Lets take the games market(second only to movies in popularity), running a popular game like sims2 or world of warcraft on 2 year old hardware is not going to be fun. Luckily on the pc side,you can buy a $65 new video card. Which is a lot cheaper than shelling out $500.
Since he's obviously rich, he can afford a lawyer to setup a trust. Dump all the stuff into the trust, change the ownership of the trust to a family member. What is the bankruptcy court going to seize? This is a common loophole used by millionaires.
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# Sue fan sites
Please name one other company that sues their fan sites.
# I have news for you, the labels want and demand DRM.
So so why does apple threaten to use the anti cirumenvention part the DMCA against real if real goes ahead with their harmony project thats allows ipod owners to play real media files? Sure sounds like using DMCA and DRM to hold a lock on a market. I don't think labels would care if ipods ran real media files, nor do i think customers would mind the abililty to run real media files on their ipods and would actually prefer a choice in their online store selection. And choice is the keyword, apple doesn't want their customers to have a choice.
I can get a Dell with 17" LCD monitor, KEYBOARD and MOUSE, for the same price. Or I could a 14" laptop from compaq. Or I can go cheaper and buy an emachine or compaq for $350. How is apple affordable? Lets talk about about upgrading, since we need to upgrade about every 2 years. Whats the upgrade path of a Mac mini? Ebay and buy a new computer? Apple loves to sucker people, whether its promising upgrades(performa scam) and never coming through or just making the box nonupgradeable/nonfixable(mini, ipod battery). Its the two year disposable product.
Tivo has been spying on us for years, they downloaded advertisements with my hardware and shove them into our tivo interface menus. Pretty uppity for a VCR replacement, and also considering that i also had to pay a monthly fee to use my hardware.
By using MY hardware to download ads and MY hardware to spy on my tv watching activities. This has been going for years, yet everyone sat back and didn't care. I guess the pop up ads are what the broke the camels back. I'm glad I left tivo a while years ago after i found out that Tivo was using my own PURCHASED hardware to spy on me.
There's tons of competition, Dell, creative labs, arcos all have ipod, and ipod mini competitors. Apple has patent on ipod interface, and the supplier of the dial wheel has patent on the click wheel design and exlusive agreement with apple. Apple also has millions of purchased itunes songs that can't play on any other digital music players, and apple won't license their DRM to be used on these other players. Patents + DRM, is a very effective way of holding onto a market and locking out your competitors.
Apple can break compatibility with future versions and people don't care. They've done it when moving from 680xxx to PPC, and system 9 to OSX move. Microsoft is stuck having to support legacy applications, hence windows2000 wasn't popular since DOS/Win95/98 applications wouldn't always run on it right hence they came out with XP which has compatibility with older applications. This why microsoft is pushing.net, they don't want developers hooking straight into the windows API or be bound to x86 architecture which makes changing the way windows a lot easier.
Umm what about 3rd party applications that rely on the media player api or IE API? Lot of apps i've seen are using a browser window to do their interface stuff since it makes doing skins extremely simple(change the css file). And the only way to communicate from the Presentation layer(HTML) is through activex because you can't send posts or querystrings at a file. And before you slashbotters start bitching that using HTML with some sort of hook into an application API is crap/insecure/slow/whatever, this is the same shit KDE uses.
"It find it interesting that people bitch when others violate the GPL, but think it is "a human right" to violate other licenses. Guess what ? They all fly under the same rules (laws)."
Yawn. You obviously know nothing about the GPL. GPL is agreement you have to follow if you distribute. You can do anything you want with GPL code personally besides redistributing it. Distributing copyrighted materials is protected by law hence the nasty warning on DVD movies, violating a EULA isn't. There isn't an FBI warning on EULAs. Violating a EULA goes is a civil case, illegally redistributing copyrighted materials can get prosecuted in criminal court. Please at least learn the differences, and stop drinking the apple flavored koolaid.
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To take full advantage of the nonexecutable cpu protection. They did the same in XP sp2.
Once again i asked why should the EFF get involved. This has nothing to do with OUR RIGHTS. Please find where on the EFF website does it state they fight to enforce the GPL or other copyright licenses. Is cherry os infringing on my right to free speach on the net? Is cherry OS violating my privacy? Is cherry os saying I can't publish my code? Is cherry saying I can't reverse engineer their product? Please enlighten me to why they should get involved in this case?
Not always true. I had soundblaster live card that used to freeze up my system all the time under win98. Funny thing is that mp3 I was playing kept playing until the end of song and then stopped. So in order for that to happen, the cpu still had to be decoding the mp3 and the ram still had be feeding the PCI channel with data.
Really? Thats why EMC data storage has a tech come out every month to exchange a bad drive. Or thats why after 6 months of use, emc came out to replace a bad stick of ram. Luckily the EMC makes quality products that report errors before they cause data loss or failure but the consumer market can't afford these luxories. Ask yourself this, why do servers use ECC ram? Ram flipping a bit can easily take down a box and its going to happen.
It doesn't matter if CherryOS is selling the GPL code or not. It is still the exact same license violation.
And since all you slashbotters like to refer to GPL license violation as theft. Here's analogy for you. Someone steals my car and uses it himself, or someone steals my car and sells it. Should we ignore the person who steals my car and uses it personally? Yes this is a bad analogy, much like calling a GPL violation theft.
Money saved is money earned.
So what does GPL violations have to do with EFF? EFF protects our right to free speach on the internet, it has nothing to do with enforcing copyright licenses. Asking EFF to help out with this case is like asking the ACLU to help out. I donate money to both organizations, and I sure as hell don't any of them putting their resources into enforcing a copyright license since it does NOT affect any of my constitutional rights, consumer rights or personal freedoms.
I sure hope you're not donating to organization that you do not fully understand their mission statement.
And even i did run windows, I could still download mozilla,php,whatever the perl interpreter(active perl i think). BTW tell me when open office has a native aqua support.
With apple you pay for their style, but I'm not guy who cares about looks. I like functionality.
You made my point. Disposable products with no upgrade path. Lets take the games market(second only to movies in popularity), running a popular game like sims2 or world of warcraft on 2 year old hardware is not going to be fun. Luckily on the pc side,you can buy a $65 new video card. Which is a lot cheaper than shelling out $500.
Since he's obviously rich, he can afford a lawyer to setup a trust. Dump all the stuff into the trust, change the ownership of the trust to a family member. What is the bankruptcy court going to seize? This is a common loophole used by millionaires.
Please name one other company that sues their fan sites.
# I have news for you, the labels want and demand DRM.
So so why does apple threaten to use the anti cirumenvention part the DMCA against real if real goes ahead with their harmony project thats allows ipod owners to play real media files? Sure sounds like using DMCA and DRM to hold a lock on a market. I don't think labels would care if ipods ran real media files, nor do i think customers would mind the abililty to run real media files on their ipods and would actually prefer a choice in their online store selection. And choice is the keyword, apple doesn't want their customers to have a choice.
Sue fan sites
Tried to use the DMCA to remove content from source forge
Promise upgrades but never follow through(ibook,performa)
Use DRM to lock product(itunes) to device(ipod) and threaten to use the DMCA to protect the lock in
Reciever of numerous customer lawsuits from selling used products as new, and to lie about about the battery life on ipods
For a company with only less than 3% market share, they sure seem to get sued a lot for shoddy products or unethical business behavior.
And this post will probably last 5 minutes before apple fanboys troll, or flamebait it even though i just posted facts.
I can get a Dell with 17" LCD monitor, KEYBOARD and MOUSE, for the same price. Or I could a 14" laptop from compaq. Or I can go cheaper and buy an emachine or compaq for $350. How is apple affordable? Lets talk about about upgrading, since we need to upgrade about every 2 years. Whats the upgrade path of a Mac mini? Ebay and buy a new computer? Apple loves to sucker people, whether its promising upgrades(performa scam) and never coming through or just making the box nonupgradeable/nonfixable(mini, ipod battery). Its the two year disposable product.
All of it. DVRs will save the mpeg stream of hdtv signal, only time a dvr will encode is when it recieving a standard analog signal.
Spyware is spyware, and tivo is spyware. Tivo spys on my viewing habbits, Gator spies on my web surfing habits.
Tivo has been spying on us for years, they downloaded advertisements with my hardware and shove them into our tivo interface menus. Pretty uppity for a VCR replacement, and also considering that i also had to pay a monthly fee to use my hardware.
By using MY hardware to download ads and MY hardware to spy on my tv watching activities. This has been going for years, yet everyone sat back and didn't care. I guess the pop up ads are what the broke the camels back. I'm glad I left tivo a while years ago after i found out that Tivo was using my own PURCHASED hardware to spy on me.
Most ad blocking software will block google adsense. Even the big commercial ones block the adsense javascript.
Google ripped it off with their adwords program, but settled before it went to court.
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There's tons of competition, Dell, creative labs, arcos all have ipod, and ipod mini competitors. Apple has patent on ipod interface, and the supplier of the dial wheel has patent on the click wheel design and exlusive agreement with apple. Apple also has millions of purchased itunes songs that can't play on any other digital music players, and apple won't license their DRM to be used on these other players. Patents + DRM, is a very effective way of holding onto a market and locking out your competitors.
Apple can break compatibility with future versions and people don't care. They've done it when moving from 680xxx to PPC, and system 9 to OSX move. Microsoft is stuck having to support legacy applications, hence windows2000 wasn't popular since DOS/Win95/98 applications wouldn't always run on it right hence they came out with XP which has compatibility with older applications. This why microsoft is pushing .net, they don't want developers hooking straight into the windows API or be bound to x86 architecture which makes changing the way windows a lot easier.
Umm what about 3rd party applications that rely on the media player api or IE API? Lot of apps i've seen are using a browser window to do their interface stuff since it makes doing skins extremely simple(change the css file). And the only way to communicate from the Presentation layer(HTML) is through activex because you can't send posts or querystrings at a file. And before you slashbotters start bitching that using HTML with some sort of hook into an application API is crap/insecure/slow/whatever, this is the same shit KDE uses.
Online porn still makes a ton of money even though you could easily download the stuff off P2P or newsgroups.
Yawn. You obviously know nothing about the GPL. GPL is agreement you have to follow if you distribute. You can do anything you want with GPL code personally besides redistributing it. Distributing copyrighted materials is protected by law hence the nasty warning on DVD movies, violating a EULA isn't. There isn't an FBI warning on EULAs. Violating a EULA goes is a civil case, illegally redistributing copyrighted materials can get prosecuted in criminal court. Please at least learn the differences, and stop drinking the apple flavored koolaid.