A pretty smart guy from Galilee once said you can know a person by his fruits. If all a person produces is hatred, that says something about that person.
I would argue that war does not always equate to evil. Just because you hate Bush, Republicans, and religion does not mean they are wrong.
Next up, not all religious people are Bush supporters, as you seem to imply. Frankly, I'm indifferent to politics because politicians almost always are self-serving, regardless of their party association.
Finally, invoking the name of God in vain, well, my guess (I could be wrong) is that you don't have the full understanding of what that means. Please read my blog post that touches on the name of God, and what it means to "take it in vain".
What I dislike about these sorts of all-out, unbridled attacks on religion is that everything is generalized to the point of fallacies. This very thread is based on an article written by a leftist (and therfore, anti-Bush, probably anti-religious) newspaper, the New York Times, in an attempt to slander religious people, and by associaion, the NYT's political enemy, George Bush. Because of hate-filled posts like those found in this thread, all we religious can do is defend ourselves from peanut gallery onslaughts like this one.
I choose to believe that a God has existed throughout history and still does. You don't have to believe that and I won't force my opinions on you. I just wish you would do the same and not force your hatred and your world views on me.
Because something has been accepted scientifically for a century does not mean it is fact. Neither does defeating every challenge posed to it, whether or not that is true.
Rebel against religious zealots.....as I watch my Karma plummet....
On Slashdot? Are you joking?! In this place of "open-minded" geeks, you'll get modded to the sky for bashing anything religious. Feel free to continue your religion hating, and enjoy the wave of mod points endowed to you by those that hate God, hate the idea of a god, hate those that believe in god, and refuse to believe -- in their open-mindedness -- that a god could even exist.
Well said. That's why I dread these threads, where a sensationalist topics generates open season for an all out, unbridled hatred of a religious group. It's sad.
Where are the reasonable Christians who repudiate this demented abuse of our country into a market theocracy in their name?
Right here. People ought to be free to see what they please, whether or not I agree with it.
That said, read the article. There was no protest by Christians, there was no public debate, no outcry by fundamentalists -- nothing. This was Imax making the decision not to show some movies, basing it on the fact that if Christians find it offensible, the film will likely make less money: Christian schools won't go on field trips to see it, church groups won't go out and see it, and so on. All Imax cares about is money.
But no, just like Slashdot, one controversial, hype-inducing, sensationalist headline will get the entire crowd up in an anti-Christian, anti-religious frenzy. Sigh.
According to the article, religious people had little affect. Imax cancelled these films, an editor theorizes it could be because religious people might get upset at these films (what? we don't get upset at Discovery channel...sigh), and VOILA! We get a full-fledged Slashdot peanut gallery bashing us "religious fundamentalists".
It's too popular a language to just toss aside and break everyones existing code.
That's the thing: your VB6 code will still work just fine. MS won't be adding any updates to it; is that really such an issue? If you need the latest and greatest of everything, why are you still using VB6?
Good for them, it's about time. SP2 was a step in the right direction: blocked ActiveX & Java by default was a good move. I'll be interested in seeing how they deal with.NET applets that want to elevate permissions. I know that.NET code is sandboxed over the web, but from what I've read, it seems they plan on allowing permission elevations via a single click from the user. Let's hope they really focus on security and really lock down all non-verifiable 3rd party code being run through the browser.
Actually, pigs are not healthy, even today. The American Cancer Society has linked the meat of pork to certain cancel developments due to the way pigs digest food; the food becomes part of the pigs flesh faster than virtually all mammals.
Also, see this reply to my original post that describes some examples of why pigs would have been even worse to eat in biblical times. At least in modern day pigs are raised on farms and fed rather healthy food.
Jesus wasn't and isn't imaginery; any history book confirms that Jesus did in fact walk this earth, Jewish historians such as Josephus confirm his existence, as well as the rabbis who wrote Talmud (this despite both sources not believing in him as the messiah).
Any history book confirms Jesus did exist; it's more a matter of whether you want to ignore him or acknowledge him.
There are a lot of ignorant people out there who call themselves Christians. No, God is not going to strike you blind; if he did that to all sinful people then we'd all be blind, including myself.
Also, going to church doesn't make you a Christian. I haven't been to a church regularly in about 10 years because of similar people you mention.
That said, I haven't thrown the baby out with the bathwater; while there is plenty wrong in the various Christian religions (see my blog), I still know that Jesus is the messiah.
Thanks for your insight, very interesting. I'd like to address a few points you made.
While Muslims follow Allah (which is a generic title of "God"), one has to wonder, are they really following after Yahweh, God of Israel? They claim much of what's written in the OT by God is a lie, fabricated by Jewish rabbis over the centuries, they denounce many of the prophets in the Tenach, if everything of Yahweh's is a lie to them, it's almost as if they are following another god altogether.
As far as Islam goes, I don't mean to bash all Muslims, which is the reason I said "radical Islam". Much of radical Islam wants to destroy Israel as well as followers of Christ.
Of course Palestinians and Jews have common ancestry -- Abraham was the father of Isaac (progenitor father of Jacob/Israel and all modern day Jews) as well as the father of Ishmael, progenitor of modern day Arabs. God gave the land to Jacob, whom God renamed "Israel". Who are Jacob's decendants? We, the Jewish people, are Jacob's descendants, as well as the Israelites who were scattered and now lost in the gentile nations after Solomon's reign. To say Arabs are the people of Israel is factually wrong; Arabs (including Palestinians) are people of Ishmael, not Israel.
Probe a Christian long enough, and he'll tell you he still thinks all the Jews are going to hell for "killing Jesus".
An ignorant Christian perhaps, sadly that is true.
However, any Christian who blames someone for killing Christ totally misunderstands the purpose of Christ: to die for our sins. It doesn't matter whether Romans or Jews killed him, because his purpose was to be the sacrifice Lamb. No more need for blood sacrifices when the perfect Passover lamb of God has sacrificed himself for us so that we can live.
Thanks for the information, I wasn't aware of that.
<shameless plug> Since you're interested in Hebraic Law, I encourage you to visit my blog, I post regularly on some topics that you might find interesting.
People can label me, call me names, insult me; it doesn't matter because through Jesus Christ I have freedom from the wrong things I've done. I can tell you that a guilt-free conscience is priceless, and no one can determine how much freedom from sin and addictions is worth; all the insults in the world cannot take away that happiness I've found because of Christ.
Wow, your post is ignorant on so many levels, where do I begin..
For starters, Jews don't believe in a hell. In Scripture God lays out some foods that are healthy and others that are unhealthy. If we break that law, we are not going to the lakes of burning brimstone; your Christian religionist leaders invented that one.
Perhaps coincidentally, virtually all the unhealthy foods God mentions are all scientifically proven as unhealthy. A vast majority of the dietary laws are against the eating of scavengers, vultures, bottom-feeders; food that has proven to be unhealthy for humans to eat. There are a few (such as pig) that people eat today, but perhaps the modern farm-raised pigs of today are different from the wild pigs of Biblical times.
Chewing the cud: read about it in a science book. It's a way animals, such as cows, digest plants in the most efficient way nature can get them, by regurgitating the food and chewing it, breaking it down so the body can extract more nutrients. It's really an amazing part of nature. And despite biblical man's lack of scientific knowledge, we now know that most animals that chew the cud are indeed healthy for humans to consume because of the science behind chewing the cud.
If I'm silly and insane for believing in God & Scripture, then lock me up, I'm guilty.:-)
I agree with you that I am out of the mainstream world though. It has never been popular to believe in God. Putting it simply, the world doesn't like things that aren't worldly and humanistic.
I'm blessed & fortunate to be part of the vocal minority who believe in God and reject the rampant, ubiquitous humanism and materialism around us.
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A pretty smart guy from Galilee once said you can know a person by his fruits. If all a person produces is hatred, that says something about that person.
I would argue that war does not always equate to evil. Just because you hate Bush, Republicans, and religion does not mean they are wrong.
Next up, not all religious people are Bush supporters, as you seem to imply. Frankly, I'm indifferent to politics because politicians almost always are self-serving, regardless of their party association.
Finally, invoking the name of God in vain, well, my guess (I could be wrong) is that you don't have the full understanding of what that means. Please read my blog post that touches on the name of God, and what it means to "take it in vain".
What I dislike about these sorts of all-out, unbridled attacks on religion is that everything is generalized to the point of fallacies. This very thread is based on an article written by a leftist (and therfore, anti-Bush, probably anti-religious) newspaper, the New York Times, in an attempt to slander religious people, and by associaion, the NYT's political enemy, George Bush. Because of hate-filled posts like those found in this thread, all we religious can do is defend ourselves from peanut gallery onslaughts like this one.
I choose to believe that a God has existed throughout history and still does. You don't have to believe that and I won't force my opinions on you. I just wish you would do the same and not force your hatred and your world views on me.
Because something has been accepted scientifically for a century does not mean it is fact. Neither does defeating every challenge posed to it, whether or not that is true.
Rebel against religious zealots. ....as I watch my Karma plummet....
On Slashdot? Are you joking?! In this place of "open-minded" geeks, you'll get modded to the sky for bashing anything religious. Feel free to continue your religion hating, and enjoy the wave of mod points endowed to you by those that hate God, hate the idea of a god, hate those that believe in god, and refuse to believe -- in their open-mindedness -- that a god could even exist.
Well said. That's why I dread these threads, where a sensationalist topics generates open season for an all out, unbridled hatred of a religious group. It's sad.
I guess that depends on whether one believes open hatred of another group is "a problem".
Where are the reasonable Christians who repudiate this demented abuse of our country into a market theocracy in their name?
Right here. People ought to be free to see what they please, whether or not I agree with it.
That said, read the article. There was no protest by Christians, there was no public debate, no outcry by fundamentalists -- nothing. This was Imax making the decision not to show some movies, basing it on the fact that if Christians find it offensible, the film will likely make less money: Christian schools won't go on field trips to see it, church groups won't go out and see it, and so on. All Imax cares about is money.
But no, just like Slashdot, one controversial, hype-inducing, sensationalist headline will get the entire crowd up in an anti-Christian, anti-religious frenzy. Sigh.
According to the article, religious people had little affect. Imax cancelled these films, an editor theorizes it could be because religious people might get upset at these films (what? we don't get upset at Discovery channel...sigh), and VOILA! We get a full-fledged Slashdot peanut gallery bashing us "religious fundamentalists".
Sigh.
It's too popular a language to just toss aside and break everyones existing code.
That's the thing: your VB6 code will still work just fine. MS won't be adding any updates to it; is that really such an issue? If you need the latest and greatest of everything, why are you still using VB6?
Apparently an important factor is security.
.NET applets that want to elevate permissions. I know that .NET code is sandboxed over the web, but from what I've read, it seems they plan on allowing permission elevations via a single click from the user. Let's hope they really focus on security and really lock down all non-verifiable 3rd party code being run through the browser.
Good for them, it's about time. SP2 was a step in the right direction: blocked ActiveX & Java by default was a good move. I'll be interested in seeing how they deal with
Any one can use this free of charge for anything, forever. What's so hard about that?
Making money. All is well if you're a consumer, not all is well if you're a producer.
Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for that information, very valuable the next time I'm arguing for kosher laws. :-)
Actually, pigs are not healthy, even today. The American Cancer Society has linked the meat of pork to certain cancel developments due to the way pigs digest food; the food becomes part of the pigs flesh faster than virtually all mammals.
Also, see this reply to my original post that describes some examples of why pigs would have been even worse to eat in biblical times. At least in modern day pigs are raised on farms and fed rather healthy food.
That was the plan all along. Jesus did not die at the hands of his own people in order to condemn them, rather precisely the opposite.
Well said. It's amazing yet sad so many Christians totally miss this crucial bit of their faith.
Modern day orthodox Judaism is very hellenized.
Sad but true, orthodox Judaism is quite the wild tangent from the original faith in Yahweh.
Jesus wasn't and isn't imaginery; any history book confirms that Jesus did in fact walk this earth, Jewish historians such as Josephus confirm his existence, as well as the rabbis who wrote Talmud (this despite both sources not believing in him as the messiah).
Any history book confirms Jesus did exist; it's more a matter of whether you want to ignore him or acknowledge him.
There are a lot of ignorant people out there who call themselves Christians. No, God is not going to strike you blind; if he did that to all sinful people then we'd all be blind, including myself.
Also, going to church doesn't make you a Christian. I haven't been to a church regularly in about 10 years because of similar people you mention.
That said, I haven't thrown the baby out with the bathwater; while there is plenty wrong in the various Christian religions (see my blog), I still know that Jesus is the messiah.
Thanks for your insight, very interesting. I'd like to address a few points you made.
While Muslims follow Allah (which is a generic title of "God"), one has to wonder, are they really following after Yahweh, God of Israel? They claim much of what's written in the OT by God is a lie, fabricated by Jewish rabbis over the centuries, they denounce many of the prophets in the Tenach, if everything of Yahweh's is a lie to them, it's almost as if they are following another god altogether.
As far as Islam goes, I don't mean to bash all Muslims, which is the reason I said "radical Islam". Much of radical Islam wants to destroy Israel as well as followers of Christ.
Of course Palestinians and Jews have common ancestry -- Abraham was the father of Isaac (progenitor father of Jacob/Israel and all modern day Jews) as well as the father of Ishmael, progenitor of modern day Arabs. God gave the land to Jacob, whom God renamed "Israel". Who are Jacob's decendants? We, the Jewish people, are Jacob's descendants, as well as the Israelites who were scattered and now lost in the gentile nations after Solomon's reign. To say Arabs are the people of Israel is factually wrong; Arabs (including Palestinians) are people of Ishmael, not Israel.
Probe a Christian long enough, and he'll tell you he still thinks all the Jews are going to hell for "killing Jesus".
An ignorant Christian perhaps, sadly that is true.
However, any Christian who blames someone for killing Christ totally misunderstands the purpose of Christ: to die for our sins. It doesn't matter whether Romans or Jews killed him, because his purpose was to be the sacrifice Lamb. No more need for blood sacrifices when the perfect Passover lamb of God has sacrificed himself for us so that we can live.
I would argue that going to church and calling yourself a Christian does not necessarily make you a believer in God.
Well, one could argue that Islamic extremists do not represent mainstream Islam, although by the news headlines it sometimes seems that way.
Thanks for the information, I wasn't aware of that.
<shameless plug> Since you're interested in Hebraic Law, I encourage you to visit my blog, I post regularly on some topics that you might find interesting.
People can label me, call me names, insult me; it doesn't matter because through Jesus Christ I have freedom from the wrong things I've done. I can tell you that a guilt-free conscience is priceless, and no one can determine how much freedom from sin and addictions is worth; all the insults in the world cannot take away that happiness I've found because of Christ.
Wow, your post is ignorant on so many levels, where do I begin..
For starters, Jews don't believe in a hell. In Scripture God lays out some foods that are healthy and others that are unhealthy. If we break that law, we are not going to the lakes of burning brimstone; your Christian religionist leaders invented that one.
Perhaps coincidentally, virtually all the unhealthy foods God mentions are all scientifically proven as unhealthy. A vast majority of the dietary laws are against the eating of scavengers, vultures, bottom-feeders; food that has proven to be unhealthy for humans to eat. There are a few (such as pig) that people eat today, but perhaps the modern farm-raised pigs of today are different from the wild pigs of Biblical times.
Chewing the cud: read about it in a science book. It's a way animals, such as cows, digest plants in the most efficient way nature can get them, by regurgitating the food and chewing it, breaking it down so the body can extract more nutrients. It's really an amazing part of nature. And despite biblical man's lack of scientific knowledge, we now know that most animals that chew the cud are indeed healthy for humans to consume because of the science behind chewing the cud.
If I'm silly and insane for believing in God & Scripture, then lock me up, I'm guilty. :-)
I agree with you that I am out of the mainstream world though. It has never been popular to believe in God. Putting it simply, the world doesn't like things that aren't worldly and humanistic.
I'm blessed & fortunate to be part of the vocal minority who believe in God and reject the rampant, ubiquitous humanism and materialism around us.