It's not a school policy. It's the law. Break the law, and you (usually) suffer consequences.
I know it's an old-non-exact analogy, but if the same kid shoplifted a CD or DVD from a store and got caught, it too would tend to "mess up" their education.
I'm done with this conversation, as we're going in circles. I think actions have consequences. You seem to think that we should slap their wrist, then pat them on their head, and send them off to do it again.
That's treating it as a black-and-white either-or proposition which assumes you can do one or the other but not both. They seem to be able to do education AND cut the grass in the quad AND do campus security AND run cafeterias AND take out the trash AND run health services AND do plenty of other things at the same time.
Personally, I'd rather they focused on education and not spend BILLIONS on college football stadiums and programs. They're supposed to be institution of higher learning, not NFL farm leagues.
But that's just me.
And again, all the kid has to do is not break the law. It's. Not. That. Hard.
When I can get Photoshop or Aperture or Final Cut all working and rendering together at real time, THEN my computer MAY be fast enough. Until then...
And seriously, look at Jeff Hans' multi-touch user interface demos. That's the future of interface design, and to get there you're going to need systems powerful enough to handle it.
Reread "buy a computer for main use" in the parents post. Then realize that "you" are not the "main" computer in the household. Then crawl back down under your bridge and stop trolling.
The whole argument is stupid. Really cheap computers are powered by chips that would have been top-of-the-line four or five years ago. It's the advancement of the power curve that made the chips powering those systems cheap--and possible--in the first place.
Perhaps. But if the punishment is easy then it's not going to be much of a deterrent, is it?
It's like those littering fines that are posted at being $1,000 a violation. Go ahead and toss the trash out the window if you want, as you probably won't get caught. But if you do, you're screwed.
"That's like expelling a student for stealing a whiteboard marker."
Okay, enlighten me. Exactly where do we draw the line on stealing? A car? A computer? A ring? What can I habitually steal such that I deserve no punishment whatsoever?
"an unreasonable zero tolerance policy"
Matter of viewpoint. To me, unreasonable would be expulsion. Thus is just blocking access to the service that's being abused. He can still go to the library or computer lab or Starbucks.
And I suspect that, come next school year, he'll appreciate the privilege enough not to abuse it.
B) The editors decide what articles do or do not have any business being on this site. You can decide to read them... or not.
C) How does an extra article like this being on the hurt the site? It's not that there was a major nano-technology announcement made Sunday afternoon that this article displaced.
D) Given that this article (currently) has about 500+ comments, it would seem that you're in the minority in this matter, and have made that fatal mistake of assuming that YOU are the average/. reader.
From the KU policy, "...you will receive an email and written notice that your access to the ResNet Network has been temporarily suspended for 5 business days, during which time you may appeal if you believe the copyright infringement notice was received in error."
"Your post was inflammatory because you flat ignored multiple previous posts that explained the problem with your logic."
So? Bits are still bits, encrypted or otherwise, and ultimately a boatload of them still need to show up at your computer to get the latest pirate copy of Transformers. Just watch the traffic patterns.
Besides, is it really THAT hard not to steal music and movies?
Especially when you can go to half.com and get practically any disc you want for a couple of bucks. Personally, I expect CDR sales to go way up in KC.
So why not sell it to Microsoft first, THEN sell it to someone else. Odds are that they can make use of it before Microsoft gets around to fixing it and releasing it on "patch Tuesday".
Although, when you stop to think about it, what's really stopping someone from selling it as many times as they want? If they're the kind of person who'd create it and sell it in the first place, I'm supposed to believe their "promise" that they won't sell it to anyone else?
"No, no. This is the only copy of the disk. Really."
"We all want "energy independence", but the sales of big SUVs are only growing [sfgate.com]"
Ah, sales are up over last year, but still slightly down from the year before that, and significantly less than the same period in 2004. And to quote your own article, "In visits to several dealers in the East Bay, The Chronicle found the mood in dealer showrooms was not ecstatic when the discussion turned to SUVs. "No one's buying them," said one sales manager, who declined to be identified publicly."
If you look at sales figures and stock prices, Ford, Chevy, and GM are all still in the toilet, and Toyota is still eating their lunch... and breakfast and dinner, for that matter. Look at the numbers of Prius's, Yaris's, TDIs, and Fits that are now on the roads. Not to mention CRVs and other smaller "cross-over" vehicles. "Some" SUV sales may be up, but as a general rule, it's pretty obvious cars are dropping in size and increasing in efficiency.
"...could you explain how building more nuclear reactors will reduce oil consumption?"
By powering electric cars and other PHEVs? Allowing the expansion of light rail? Allowing more homes to convert from fuel oil to electric heating? Providing the power needed to make hydrogen? Powering other conversion industries (ethanol, biodiesel, shale, etc.)
In short, you have to think about not just the power industry, but also about all of the things said industry could power...
"Third, Feynman was a very fast and talented person, so his optimal balance of knowing things vs. generating knowledge on the fly would have been extremely skewed compared to the normal person."
So true. It's odd how many times people point to an Einstein or Feynman as "proof" that certain rules or conditions have exceptions. The implication being, of course, that the same exception MUST apply to them, even though they're probably not even in the same class, league, or ballpark.
Come up with equivalent of the basis for the theory of relativity by the time you're 16, and maybe we can talk. Until then, you might want to keep taking those vocational education classes...
"...how would you feel that you had the right to create a fork?"
Suppose the changes, or proposed changes, were rejected or ignored? What if you knew, due to stated goals, that it was going in a direction different from the way you think it should go? What if the main developer simply hates your guts (or vice-versa).
"Who do you think granted you those rights to you in the first place?"
The developer who licensed it under the GPL in the first place? I mean, it has to be obvious that one of the potential ramifications to licensing your code in that fashion is the possibility that the "community" could decide its goals were different from yours, fork the project, and effectively take it away from you.
You could of course continue your branch, but if it has no support and no one else is using it...
Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, the soon-to-be-released Leopard, are all "major" releases, regardless of the version number. All have made significant architectural changes under the hood (i.e. Quartz, Core Image, 32/64bit support) while also adding major interface features (Expose, Dashboard, Spotlight). XP, on the other hand, has pretty much been XP. Wait, though, didn't SR2 add a bunch of bug fizes and a firewall? (grin)
I've been talking and listening to audiobooks and texting and doing some web browsing and have yet to go under 50%. According to Apple, a battery that should be good for 400 FULL charge cycles should give me around 1,000 partial charges at that usage pattern, meaning 1,000 DAYS of use, assuming I recharge it every day.
That's almost three years, at which point it's supposed to still have 80% of the original power.
"Maybe, just maybe they should have made it replaceable like on any other... mobile phone."
Maybe. But then either the iPhone has to be bigger and heavier, or the iPhone battery life is say, 20-30% less than it is now due to the need to package the battery pack and internal circuitry and accommodate the bay, door, and connectors, leaving less room for the actual battery.
TANSTAAFL
"... all the other phones can do it."
How much smaller and sleeker would a RAZR have been it it had not? Or maybe the talk time would have been better than 3.5 hours?
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"... play music, play games, watch movies, download shit, or rub my balls."
Ummm... that last point. Is there a phone... ah, never mind.
It's not a school policy. It's the law. Break the law, and you (usually) suffer consequences.
I know it's an old-non-exact analogy, but if the same kid shoplifted a CD or DVD from a store and got caught, it too would tend to "mess up" their education.
I'm done with this conversation, as we're going in circles. I think actions have consequences. You seem to think that we should slap their wrist, then pat them on their head, and send them off to do it again.
'Nuff said.
That's treating it as a black-and-white either-or proposition which assumes you can do one or the other but not both. They seem to be able to do education AND cut the grass in the quad AND do campus security AND run cafeterias AND take out the trash AND run health services AND do plenty of other things at the same time.
Personally, I'd rather they focused on education and not spend BILLIONS on college football stadiums and programs. They're supposed to be institution of higher learning, not NFL farm leagues.
But that's just me.
And again, all the kid has to do is not break the law. It's. Not. That. Hard.
When I can get Photoshop or Aperture or Final Cut all working and rendering together at real time, THEN my computer MAY be fast enough. Until then...
And seriously, look at Jeff Hans' multi-touch user interface demos. That's the future of interface design, and to get there you're going to need systems powerful enough to handle it.
Reread "buy a computer for main use" in the parents post. Then realize that "you" are not the "main" computer in the household. Then crawl back down under your bridge and stop trolling.
The whole argument is stupid. Really cheap computers are powered by chips that would have been top-of-the-line four or five years ago. It's the advancement of the power curve that made the chips powering those systems cheap--and possible--in the first place.
"... is pretty drastic..."
Perhaps. But if the punishment is easy then it's not going to be much of a deterrent, is it?
It's like those littering fines that are posted at being $1,000 a violation. Go ahead and toss the trash out the window if you want, as you probably won't get caught. But if you do, you're screwed.
So why risk it?
"That's like expelling a student for stealing a whiteboard marker."
Okay, enlighten me. Exactly where do we draw the line on stealing? A car? A computer? A ring? What can I habitually steal such that I deserve no punishment whatsoever?
"an unreasonable zero tolerance policy"
Matter of viewpoint. To me, unreasonable would be expulsion. Thus is just blocking access to the service that's being abused. He can still go to the library or computer lab or Starbucks.
And I suspect that, come next school year, he'll appreciate the privilege enough not to abuse it.
A) They had an article on Transformers.
/. reader.
B) The editors decide what articles do or do not have any business being on this site. You can decide to read them... or not.
C) How does an extra article like this being on the hurt the site? It's not that there was a major nano-technology announcement made Sunday afternoon that this article displaced.
D) Given that this article (currently) has about 500+ comments, it would seem that you're in the minority in this matter, and have made that fatal mistake of assuming that YOU are the average
Protest all you want. Just don't download stuff to which you're not entitled. How hard is that?
"It bans, without any sort of appeal rights"
From the KU policy, "...you will receive an email and written notice that your access to the ResNet Network has been temporarily suspended for 5 business days, during which time you may appeal if you believe the copyright infringement notice was received in error."
"Your post was inflammatory because you flat ignored multiple previous posts that explained the problem with your logic."
Ditto.
So? Bits are still bits, encrypted or otherwise, and ultimately a boatload of them still need to show up at your computer to get the latest pirate copy of Transformers. Just watch the traffic patterns.
Besides, is it really THAT hard not to steal music and movies?
Especially when you can go to half.com and get practically any disc you want for a couple of bucks. Personally, I expect CDR sales to go way up in KC.
"I'd have a good case that they should have to let competition in."
Plenty of competition. Just plug in your POTS modem and download whatever you want... at 19.2 kbps.
So why not sell it to Microsoft first, THEN sell it to someone else. Odds are that they can make use of it before Microsoft gets around to fixing it and releasing it on "patch Tuesday".
Although, when you stop to think about it, what's really stopping someone from selling it as many times as they want? If they're the kind of person who'd create it and sell it in the first place, I'm supposed to believe their "promise" that they won't sell it to anyone else?
"No, no. This is the only copy of the disk. Really."
"We all want "energy independence", but the sales of big SUVs are only growing [sfgate.com]"
Ah, sales are up over last year, but still slightly down from the year before that, and significantly less than the same period in 2004. And to quote your own article, "In visits to several dealers in the East Bay, The Chronicle found the mood in dealer showrooms was not ecstatic when the discussion turned to SUVs. "No one's buying them," said one sales manager, who declined to be identified publicly."
If you look at sales figures and stock prices, Ford, Chevy, and GM are all still in the toilet, and Toyota is still eating their lunch... and breakfast and dinner, for that matter. Look at the numbers of Prius's, Yaris's, TDIs, and Fits that are now on the roads. Not to mention CRVs and other smaller "cross-over" vehicles. "Some" SUV sales may be up, but as a general rule, it's pretty obvious cars are dropping in size and increasing in efficiency.
"...could you explain how building more nuclear reactors will reduce oil consumption?"
By powering electric cars and other PHEVs? Allowing the expansion of light rail? Allowing more homes to convert from fuel oil to electric heating? Providing the power needed to make hydrogen? Powering other conversion industries (ethanol, biodiesel, shale, etc.)
In short, you have to think about not just the power industry, but also about all of the things said industry could power...
"I think one of us is a little confused...."
Hope that helped end your confusion...
"Third, Feynman was a very fast and talented person, so his optimal balance of knowing things vs. generating knowledge on the fly would have been extremely skewed compared to the normal person."
So true. It's odd how many times people point to an Einstein or Feynman as "proof" that certain rules or conditions have exceptions. The implication being, of course, that the same exception MUST apply to them, even though they're probably not even in the same class, league, or ballpark.
Come up with equivalent of the basis for the theory of relativity by the time you're 16, and maybe we can talk. Until then, you might want to keep taking those vocational education classes...
"...how would you feel that you had the right to create a fork?"
Suppose the changes, or proposed changes, were rejected or ignored? What if you knew, due to stated goals, that it was going in a direction different from the way you think it should go? What if the main developer simply hates your guts (or vice-versa).
"Who do you think granted you those rights to you in the first place?"
The developer who licensed it under the GPL in the first place? I mean, it has to be obvious that one of the potential ramifications to licensing your code in that fashion is the possibility that the "community" could decide its goals were different from yours, fork the project, and effectively take it away from you.
You could of course continue your branch, but if it has no support and no one else is using it...
Or 500,000 people all linking to the same original article and offering that as "content".
Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, the soon-to-be-released Leopard, are all "major" releases, regardless of the version number. All have made significant architectural changes under the hood (i.e. Quartz, Core Image, 32/64bit support) while also adding major interface features (Expose, Dashboard, Spotlight). XP, on the other hand, has pretty much been XP. Wait, though, didn't SR2 add a bunch of bug fizes and a firewall? (grin)
"I think OS X would be more analagous to XP than Vista, don't you?"
Ummm. No, as Tiger was just released mid '05, while XP was released in '01.
I've been talking and listening to audiobooks and texting and doing some web browsing and have yet to go under 50%. According to Apple, a battery that should be good for 400 FULL charge cycles should give me around 1,000 partial charges at that usage pattern, meaning 1,000 DAYS of use, assuming I recharge it every day.
That's almost three years, at which point it's supposed to still have 80% of the original power.
As to portable rechargers...
"Apple has not marketed a single device with a user-replaceable battery."
Ummm... no. MacBooks and MacBook Pros have user replaceable batteries. So do Apple Remotes, the Wireless Keyboard, and the Mighty Mouse.
"Maybe, just maybe they should have made it replaceable like on any other ... mobile phone."
Maybe. But then either the iPhone has to be bigger and heavier, or the iPhone battery life is say, 20-30% less than it is now due to the need to package the battery pack and internal circuitry and accommodate the bay, door, and connectors, leaving less room for the actual battery.
TANSTAAFL
"... all the other phones can do it."
How much smaller and sleeker would a RAZR have been it it had not? Or maybe the talk time would have been better than 3.5 hours?
"Try running Mac OS X on a 7-year-old Macintosh."
Ummm... try running Windows Vista on a 7-year-old HP.