For cars it is really just eye candy. In fact, it can be more distracting than helpful and really not that useful since you probably won't be targeting other cars anytime soon.
Think that's scary, I have seen a semi driver playing a guitar while he drove. Now that is complete disregard for other human life.
I fail to see how drivers are able to get away with this stuff. Sure, You can make the argument that the majority of folks can drive and talk on the phone, which some will agree with and some won't. However, I cannot believe that anyone would suggest that you can either read or watch TV while you are driving. To drive safely, at the bare minimum, you must have your eyes on the road, a hand on the wheel, and one foot for the brake/accelerator. Idiots like the guy you are talking about should just have there licenses revoked. I think I would prefer if everyone was drunk on the road as opposed to watching TV.
I am sure that everyone here has had the same experience as me where somebody tells you that they removed a program when in fact all they did was delete the icon from the desktop. Well, now they will actually be deleting programs!! Yippee.
The idea seems like such a simple and obvious way to simplify computers. Why didn't I think of that!!
Did it occur to you that these devices can and are being used to IMPROVE situational awareness. I make my living in the biomedical/human factors areas of cockpit design. Trust me, there is a lot of value in putting a well thought out design in a car. I also enjoy working on the car pc projects and I can assure you that I have yet to meet a person who is dumb enough to play a movie and try to watch it while driving. Imagine this: A guy driving along, flipping threw pages of a map with one hand, talking on the cell phone with the other, and the annoying sounds of a Home Alone Movie are playing for the kids in the back. On the other hand, the individual with the well designed computer system is driving along and puts a dvd into the console, the kids put on there headphones which so that he can still listen to his radio station while they watch the movie. An incoming call sends out a beep and full caller ID information comes up on the touchscreen he takes the call by pushing a button, which shuts off the radio and uses the car speakers for sound, his voice is captured by a mic in the dash. He hangs up the call with the push of a button and radio returns to it's previous state. He no longer needs to flip through a map because he has a gps display, and as he drives towards a preset destination, a voice comes over the speakers giving him directions.
I couldn't agree more, the issue here is as much a matter of equality as anything else. In my book, this guys crimes, while wrong, are minor. The rough equivalent of petty theft from Best Buy. But since it involves small losses to large corporation, we are going to invest what is probably hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars, to bring this guy over. When a company commits what is the equivalent of petty theft and doesn't deliver on their promises to their customers, it is written off as a "business oversight" and folks like me always end up getting the shaft.
Plain and simple, this is a ridiculous waste of the tax dollars we invest in our law enforcement and court systems.
The problem is that complex software and hardware is not transparent to 90% of the population. I do not care how good and secure the software gets, when a person goes into a voting booth, the process should be completely obvious to them. When you push a button a voting machine, you have NO PROOF that it did anything to record your vote. The power to vote is to important to our country to allow any man or machine to intervene in the process.
The experts cry because they realize that nobody else will do it out of fear. Also they realize that as power is taken away from individuals, communities, states and given to the central authority of the federal government, that power will never return to the people.
Do not kid yourself, the Patriot Act is permanent. Legislation like this which is originally intended to address a current problem (Al Quida) has a way of lingering around long after the problem is no longer around to justify its existince.
The patriot act may look like a drop in the bucket, but do some research into how the founding fathers viewed strong centralized government versus what we actually have today and you can see how each of these minute changes has managed to turn this country upside down.
On top of what the parent poster said, I would also like to point out that even when a program is written using large portions of someone elses code, I can still strip out the portions that I personally wrote and release those to anyone under any sort of license that I wish in any sort of program that I wish..
I have considered using MEPIS, but one of the things I wonder about is how much it is like knoppix. Knoppix has some things that make it diffent from Debian that can make it eventually hard to administer if you want to upgrade the kernel and such. Anybody have any experience with this on Mepis?
Since the guy/girl sent the report to security focus I do not think his intentions were to hand it out to script kiddies.
Maybe you have an issue with the person for including a small sample displaying how simple it was to create an exploit but I think you are being a tad harsh since the author could have done worse things with this knowledge.
That is not true. Maybe if you figure in the per flight cost of the aircraft (if you divide the total cost of the aircraft by the number of flights it does over it's lifetime you might approach $100,000 but I do not even think that would. Consider this: Large Commercial passenger jets are MORE expensive than your average F-16 which probably costs $20-$30 million, and maintenance costs are probably equivalent to much larger. If it cost Delta $200,000 for every round trip flight. The average Airbus 320 series costs well over $200 Million and carry around 150 passengers. Even if a roundtrip ticket cost $1000 they would still not even come close to breaking even.
I think you are full of it. The poster has done a lot of folks a HUGE favor. If he had sat on this, and allowed MS to sit on this, possibly millions of unsuspecting IE users put their computers at risk, waiting for someone else with the knowledge to find this exploit who would use it in the wrong way. Thanks to the guys who disclosed this bug to the public, I will have the opportunity to tell my IE using freinds and family to make sure they are upgraded to IE6+ or are using Mozilla/Firefox/Opera, otherwise they are at risk every time that the view a picture.
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So should doctors never drive to rural areas that are outside the reach of cell phone towers? Also, does the FCC see it a different way? Usually your signal has to be a reasonably strong signal before they come down on you (after all, all electronic devices release some sort of EMI). What about security uses of these devices. I personnally am not allowed to take cellphones into my workplace because it could be used to transfer confidential data, would it be wrong for a business to do this in certain buildings to prevent such things from happening?
I was thinking of roughly the same thing. I have myself downloaded lots of software over the years that was closed source and yet, it may have been written and released by a one or two man operation. Heck, in lots of large and medium sized operations there are places where there may not be a lot of oversight. The person in charge of packaging for any software could potentially do the same things as a packager for open source software. You can not trust individuals just because they recieve a pay check from a company any more than you can trust an open source developer. In fact, you can not even trust companies as a whole. Companies bombard you with advertisements even after you purchase their products, they sell your name and contact info anything else that the small print allows them to do, and they are notorious for putting spy and ad-ware on your computer. Name a single open-source project that has done any of these things. The only way to be certain that code is safe is to be able to audit it. imagine weapon weapon platforms for the military. I know first hand that many of our US DoD weapons which are used by many countries around the world also have contracters that employ people and software developers from all over the world, how smart would it be to purchase software for which you cannot see the source code and to put that code in a jet, helicopter, or a jet? (MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!, my HUD is displaying the blue screen of death!!)
Where is this journalist from and has he been living in a closet for the past 3 years?
...which lets anyone modify source code and sell or distribute the results, virtually guarantees that someone, somewhere, will insert malicious code into the source.
And this is different from closed source exactly how? Oh that's right, malicious code is hidden in closed source code! For that matter, has anyone ever recieved the source code for a virus in their email and compiled it? no, they come as a binary. Besides that, The malicious code inserted in an OSS project could be traced back to it's contributer. That's a pretty strong reason not to target open-source projects.
Third, an individual or group of IT insiders could target a single organization by obtaining a good copy of Linux, and then customizing it for an organization, including malevolent code as they do so.
Again, how does having closed source improve this? If you have a contractor making custom programs for your organization, what is to create them from making it malicious code?
You think it will be hard to find a replacement? Heck, I will do it. I do not mind getting rich for doing next to nothing. In all Seriousness, maybe someone can back me up on this, but I believe that Verisign does not even own the servers, they are supplied by the US government which owned them first. I could be wrong, but I believe I heard that from a reliable source.
Unless China asked Microsoft to specifically come up with software so that they could hunt down the political opposition, I would say that Microsoft has done little wrong in this case. The unnamed software/hardware could be nothing more than MS Windows. So if the China decides to use Windows for bad things, what is Gates supposed to do about it?
The best way to stop these viruses is to get Joe computer user to be wary. How do you educate them? I do not know how many times I have repeated to the same folks over and over:"do not open attachments unless you know what it is", "keep your virus definitions up-to-date".
I have not always been a geek, but even before my geek days I never caught a virus. The type of attachments and emails that these viruses come in is so blatantly obvious that any idiot can figure out which emails they should be wary of. If you do want to open up some little game that a freind sent you, at least update your definitions and scan the file first.
Of course this is nothing in comparison to the ultimate peev which is folks giving out there passwords (or better yet, writing them down and taping it to the monitor). How damn ignorant do people have to be? Do they not realize that giving others your password completely defeats the purpose of having a password? I am not kidding when I tell you this: My girlfreind worked as an auditor at a public university. There were staff members whom had access to the database system that is used to keep track of student records including grades. They put the password for this system up on the computer and then, not only did they sit there clueless while watching student workers access this system, but this office had an open-door policy allowing any student to come in and use this computer.
Gentlemen and ladies, this is the level of ignorance that we are dealing with.
There are a lot of unknown quality search engines out there. One of the tricks with search engines is knowing which was is going to turn up the best results in a particular search.
In addition to google, I highly recommend www.alltheweb.com, and dogpile.com.
But one that I have really come to like is vivisimo.com, check it out, and after performing a search ecspecially take a look at the "preview" feature
I still find google incredibly useful. It turns up things no other search engine does for me. An they should not try to copy Yahoo. If I want yahoo, I will go to yahoo. Each engine has its strengths. The trick is to be distinct so that users know which engine turns up the best results for different types of searches.
It really does not look like there was very much insider trading and I doubt you will see McBride cash out. If he does, he is going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison and he knows it. He will go down with the ship.
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For cars it is really just eye candy. In fact, it can be more distracting than helpful and really not that useful since you probably won't be targeting other cars anytime soon.
I fail to see how drivers are able to get away with this stuff. Sure, You can make the argument that the majority of folks can drive and talk on the phone, which some will agree with and some won't. However, I cannot believe that anyone would suggest that you can either read or watch TV while you are driving. To drive safely, at the bare minimum, you must have your eyes on the road, a hand on the wheel, and one foot for the brake/accelerator. Idiots like the guy you are talking about should just have there licenses revoked. I think I would prefer if everyone was drunk on the road as opposed to watching TV.
The idea seems like such a simple and obvious way to simplify computers. Why didn't I think of that!!
Did it occur to you that these devices can and are being used to IMPROVE situational awareness. I make my living in the biomedical/human factors areas of cockpit design. Trust me, there is a lot of value in putting a well thought out design in a car. I also enjoy working on the car pc projects and I can assure you that I have yet to meet a person who is dumb enough to play a movie and try to watch it while driving. Imagine this: A guy driving along, flipping threw pages of a map with one hand, talking on the cell phone with the other, and the annoying sounds of a Home Alone Movie are playing for the kids in the back. On the other hand, the individual with the well designed computer system is driving along and puts a dvd into the console, the kids put on there headphones which so that he can still listen to his radio station while they watch the movie. An incoming call sends out a beep and full caller ID information comes up on the touchscreen he takes the call by pushing a button, which shuts off the radio and uses the car speakers for sound, his voice is captured by a mic in the dash. He hangs up the call with the push of a button and radio returns to it's previous state. He no longer needs to flip through a map because he has a gps display, and as he drives towards a preset destination, a voice comes over the speakers giving him directions.
I couldn't agree more, the issue here is as much a matter of equality as anything else. In my book, this guys crimes, while wrong, are minor. The rough equivalent of petty theft from Best Buy. But since it involves small losses to large corporation, we are going to invest what is probably hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars, to bring this guy over. When a company commits what is the equivalent of petty theft and doesn't deliver on their promises to their customers, it is written off as a "business oversight" and folks like me always end up getting the shaft.
Plain and simple, this is a ridiculous waste of the tax dollars we invest in our law enforcement and court systems.
The problem is that complex software and hardware is not transparent to 90% of the population. I do not care how good and secure the software gets, when a person goes into a voting booth, the process should be completely obvious to them. When you push a button a voting machine, you have NO PROOF that it did anything to record your vote. The power to vote is to important to our country to allow any man or machine to intervene in the process.
Do not kid yourself, the Patriot Act is permanent. Legislation like this which is originally intended to address a current problem (Al Quida) has a way of lingering around long after the problem is no longer around to justify its existince.
The patriot act may look like a drop in the bucket, but do some research into how the founding fathers viewed strong centralized government versus what we actually have today and you can see how each of these minute changes has managed to turn this country upside down.
On top of what the parent poster said, I would also like to point out that even when a program is written using large portions of someone elses code, I can still strip out the portions that I personally wrote and release those to anyone under any sort of license that I wish in any sort of program that I wish..
I have considered using MEPIS, but one of the things I wonder about is how much it is like knoppix. Knoppix has some things that make it diffent from Debian that can make it eventually hard to administer if you want to upgrade the kernel and such. Anybody have any experience with this on Mepis?
The F117 supposedly can carry sidewinders
Maybe you have an issue with the person for including a small sample displaying how simple it was to create an exploit but I think you are being a tad harsh since the author could have done worse things with this knowledge.
That is not true. Maybe if you figure in the per flight cost of the aircraft (if you divide the total cost of the aircraft by the number of flights it does over it's lifetime you might approach $100,000 but I do not even think that would. Consider this: Large Commercial passenger jets are MORE expensive than your average F-16 which probably costs $20-$30 million, and maintenance costs are probably equivalent to much larger. If it cost Delta $200,000 for every round trip flight. The average Airbus 320 series costs well over $200 Million and carry around 150 passengers. Even if a roundtrip ticket cost $1000 they would still not even come close to breaking even.
It is called Firefox and can be downloaded at Mozilla.org!
I think you are full of it. The poster has done a lot of folks a HUGE favor. If he had sat on this, and allowed MS to sit on this, possibly millions of unsuspecting IE users put their computers at risk, waiting for someone else with the knowledge to find this exploit who would use it in the wrong way. Thanks to the guys who disclosed this bug to the public, I will have the opportunity to tell my IE using freinds and family to make sure they are upgraded to IE6+ or are using Mozilla/Firefox/Opera, otherwise they are at risk every time that the view a picture.
So should doctors never drive to rural areas that are outside the reach of cell phone towers? Also, does the FCC see it a different way? Usually your signal has to be a reasonably strong signal before they come down on you (after all, all electronic devices release some sort of EMI). What about security uses of these devices. I personnally am not allowed to take cellphones into my workplace because it could be used to transfer confidential data, would it be wrong for a business to do this in certain buildings to prevent such things from happening?
I was thinking of roughly the same thing. I have myself downloaded lots of software over the years that was closed source and yet, it may have been written and released by a one or two man operation. Heck, in lots of large and medium sized operations there are places where there may not be a lot of oversight. The person in charge of packaging for any software could potentially do the same things as a packager for open source software. You can not trust individuals just because they recieve a pay check from a company any more than you can trust an open source developer. In fact, you can not even trust companies as a whole. Companies bombard you with advertisements even after you purchase their products, they sell your name and contact info anything else that the small print allows them to do, and they are notorious for putting spy and ad-ware on your computer. Name a single open-source project that has done any of these things. The only way to be certain that code is safe is to be able to audit it. imagine weapon weapon platforms for the military. I know first hand that many of our US DoD weapons which are used by many countries around the world also have contracters that employ people and software developers from all over the world, how smart would it be to purchase software for which you cannot see the source code and to put that code in a jet, helicopter, or a jet? (MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!, my HUD is displaying the blue screen of death!!)
And this is different from closed source exactly how? Oh that's right, malicious code is hidden in closed source code! For that matter, has anyone ever recieved the source code for a virus in their email and compiled it? no, they come as a binary. Besides that, The malicious code inserted in an OSS project could be traced back to it's contributer. That's a pretty strong reason not to target open-source projects.
Third, an individual or group of IT insiders could target a single organization by obtaining a good copy of Linux, and then customizing it for an organization, including malevolent code as they do so.
Again, how does having closed source improve this? If you have a contractor making custom programs for your organization, what is to create them from making it malicious code?
probably because they are older than bit torrent.
You think it will be hard to find a replacement? Heck, I will do it. I do not mind getting rich for doing next to nothing. In all Seriousness, maybe someone can back me up on this, but I believe that Verisign does not even own the servers, they are supplied by the US government which owned them first. I could be wrong, but I believe I heard that from a reliable source.
Unless China asked Microsoft to specifically come up with software so that they could hunt down the political opposition, I would say that Microsoft has done little wrong in this case. The unnamed software/hardware could be nothing more than MS Windows. So if the China decides to use Windows for bad things, what is Gates supposed to do about it?
I have not always been a geek, but even before my geek days I never caught a virus. The type of attachments and emails that these viruses come in is so blatantly obvious that any idiot can figure out which emails they should be wary of. If you do want to open up some little game that a freind sent you, at least update your definitions and scan the file first.
Of course this is nothing in comparison to the ultimate peev which is folks giving out there passwords (or better yet, writing them down and taping it to the monitor). How damn ignorant do people have to be? Do they not realize that giving others your password completely defeats the purpose of having a password? I am not kidding when I tell you this: My girlfreind worked as an auditor at a public university. There were staff members whom had access to the database system that is used to keep track of student records including grades. They put the password for this system up on the computer and then, not only did they sit there clueless while watching student workers access this system, but this office had an open-door policy allowing any student to come in and use this computer.
Gentlemen and ladies, this is the level of ignorance that we are dealing with.
But one that I have really come to like is vivisimo.com, check it out, and after performing a search ecspecially take a look at the "preview" feature
I still find google incredibly useful. It turns up things no other search engine does for me. An they should not try to copy Yahoo. If I want yahoo, I will go to yahoo. Each engine has its strengths. The trick is to be distinct so that users know which engine turns up the best results for different types of searches.
We won't look down on you. We just feel sorry for you.
It really does not look like there was very much insider trading and I doubt you will see McBride cash out. If he does, he is going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison and he knows it. He will go down with the ship.