I dont think so, My company is not changing its linux distro because of redhat EOL the WS line, we will step up and pay the money fo ES and AS. Redhat has a long way to fall until its the number 2 distro Redhat had a nearly 20% lead ofver suse and an 8% lead over mandrake at the end of 2001. Companie like ORacle, BEA, and Veritas specifically certify only for redhats distro, and this iw what pushes redhat over the other distro.
on the non enterprise level Redhat will still be releasing an equivelant system to the WS model and most redhat users will give that a shot.
No 'make it up on volume' applies whenever there is not a significant production cost increase for a given volume increase. With VOIP (server maintenance, customer support) this will produce s step function, if your infrastructure can handle a thounsand more customers without needing to take on additioanl staff you can afford to lower the price. just like if I can turn out a thousand more widigts for a cost per widget less than the current production cost it makes sense to lower the cost and push out volume.
The GP of this post implies there is not limit to that (keep going lower) but the production cost is a bounded curve, its never going to below x amount for a company this is not true. There will come a point when no matter how much volume you establish you will not see a significant decrease in production cost.
The VOIP is clearly not a market you can skim in (set prices just above the rest), and its not a makket you want to just aim at survival in. That leaves two options maxumize market share by lowering prices and making it up on volume or by quality (uptime and service).
Given that a phone company does not guranetee me five nines why should I expect anything more from VOIP which is already cheeper than phone service?
Honestly you dont seem to know what you are talking about, I will say that redhat is not ready for desktop use but I wll take an Apache server on linux off IIS any day of the week and twice on sunday. Thats where redhat is pushing Linux for applications like Oracle, weblogic, etc...
Actually I dont care too much for him, I did vote for him last election as my only other choices were Gore or Nader and I could not bring myself to vote for either of them. I will not vote for Bush next time around but that has nothing to do with Iraq, thats all about increasing government spending..
The point is that SCO is trying to take linux and call it their own IP, when some kid downloads music on the net he is in the wrong but he is not trying to say the song anywhere in all its forms belong to him..
Actually if someone wanted to drive to Utah they could press SCO to small claims in that state (actually they could press for their own home but that would require a lawyer and thus make it not worth the effort).
Think about it if every time a contract went bad and it had to go the the lowest level of courts the geographically includes both the federal courts would be far too busy.. When working on a projectin NY with a company in MI a dispute came up and it was handled in NY becuase that is where the contract was taking place..
On castro, that was wrong and it was an act of war (not terrorism). On Rachel Corrie, I hate it when someone puts themselves in danger and then when the worst happens people gasp. It has not been proven that she was killed on purpose it was a tragic accident..
Lincoln was fighting an armed insurection in his own country. I see no comparison.
Oh yea people came over here lived for years while they trained to kill Americans and the struck a pre-emptimve blow on American soil, yea no armed insurection here..
No we have not lost sight of our orgins. The whole of the people of the US declaired themselves indepidants of England, and England set over its army to crush us. We did not go to england and start killing people for our freedom ala the IRA, or PLO.
Lincon enabled more restrictions onrights during the Civil War than we have now, in WW2 Citizens of Japanese decent were rounded up into camps. We have done nothing near this scale the worst that has been done is detaining a few dozen Citizens and legal residants for a wekk or two after 9/11. I find the bandwagon just keeps on growing..
Yea its not like the guy who owned that business is going to be hurt by these eco-terrorist. People have died because of tree spiking but its not like the ELF knew someone was going to die so I guess there intentions are OK.
Yes sirrie bob when political discourse fails just start burning other peoples property..
Destruction of property in order to accomplish a political goal is terrorism. In fact the threat of violence itself is terrorism and this is not Ashcroft talking its the English Language
terrorism n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Arson is not terrorism if it is not aimed at coercing a government or society, if you burn my house because you hate me and not because you want me to stop building in the sticks than its arson not terrorism. If you burn my house because you dont like the fact I raise poultry for slaughter and want me to stop its terrorism... I realize the bash the US bandwagon is the worlds largest SUV so keep feeling smug in the fact that because you disagree with Ashcroft he is evil and you are pure..
Hey spunky I just moevd here (St Paul) from hel^H^H^HNew York state and you guys have no clue how good you have it in MN. I got my license the other day fo 18$ and in less that 30 minutes! In NY it took me two hours and a buck fifty to return my plates!
On top of that I am paying much less in income tax despite making 50% more here than I was in NY. I like Pawlenty who just up and cut spending when the state was facing a deficit not raised taxes or sold bonds as is common practice in most states. I pay less and get better service here than I ever did in NY
The whole vonage thing was the first time I got annoyed with MN over pretty much anything..
huh? I did not think one used a modem over a viop line. VIOP services line Vonage come in over your BB connection and while I guess you could redial out ofver the VIOP connection that would be a little pointless for home users..
Youre right anything that has a vulnerability is not worth spit. All this time I have been using Openssh, guess that was a waste of time. Might as well thrown every piece of software on the planet out becuase there is a vulnerability..
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on the non enterprise level Redhat will still be releasing an equivelant system to the WS model and most redhat users will give that a shot.
The GP of this post implies there is not limit to that (keep going lower) but the production cost is a bounded curve, its never going to below x amount for a company this is not true. There will come a point when no matter how much volume you establish you will not see a significant decrease in production cost.
The VOIP is clearly not a market you can skim in (set prices just above the rest), and its not a makket you want to just aim at survival in. That leaves two options maxumize market share by lowering prices and making it up on volume or by quality (uptime and service).
Given that a phone company does not guranetee me five nines why should I expect anything more from VOIP which is already cheeper than phone service?
Yes the average desktop user has a 15k scanner..
Its ok becasue C programming believes in you..
Honestly you dont seem to know what you are talking about, I will say that redhat is not ready for desktop use but I wll take an Apache server on linux off IIS any day of the week and twice on sunday. Thats where redhat is pushing Linux for applications like Oracle, weblogic, etc...
From the simpsons, get over it..
Actually I dont care too much for him, I did vote for him last election as my only other choices were Gore or Nader and I could not bring myself to vote for either of them. I will not vote for Bush next time around but that has nothing to do with Iraq, thats all about increasing government spending..
The point is that SCO is trying to take linux and call it their own IP, when some kid downloads music on the net he is in the wrong but he is not trying to say the song anywhere in all its forms belong to him..
How totally pathetic that someone trys to turn a thread about court and contract into a bash GWB fest... Get a life
Think about it if every time a contract went bad and it had to go the the lowest level of courts the geographically includes both the federal courts would be far too busy.. When working on a projectin NY with a company in MI a dispute came up and it was handled in NY becuase that is where the contract was taking place..
Yes your right that would have been far better, and i would not have had to deal with brain dead trolls calling me names ;)
And I for one welcome our new plasmotic overloards!
They are Euro's, all socialist and have no problem with the nanny state owning things... Socialism is Communisms timid little brother..
On castro, that was wrong and it was an act of war (not terrorism). On Rachel Corrie, I hate it when someone puts themselves in danger and then when the worst happens people gasp. It has not been proven that she was killed on purpose it was a tragic accident..
Not the point of that particular post, you excused Lincon because of his situation.. I pointed out that in some ways this one is far worse..
Oh yea people came over here lived for years while they trained to kill Americans and the struck a pre-emptimve blow on American soil, yea no armed insurection here..
Lincon enabled more restrictions onrights during the Civil War than we have now, in WW2 Citizens of Japanese decent were rounded up into camps. We have done nothing near this scale the worst that has been done is detaining a few dozen Citizens and legal residants for a wekk or two after 9/11. I find the bandwagon just keeps on growing..
Yes sirrie bob when political discourse fails just start burning other peoples property..
terrorism n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Arson is not terrorism if it is not aimed at coercing a government or society, if you burn my house because you hate me and not because you want me to stop building in the sticks than its arson not terrorism. If you burn my house because you dont like the fact I raise poultry for slaughter and want me to stop its terrorism... I realize the bash the US bandwagon is the worlds largest SUV so keep feeling smug in the fact that because you disagree with Ashcroft he is evil and you are pure..
Yea its not like the left was painting all miletia members as terrorist about five years ago...
On top of that I am paying much less in income tax despite making 50% more here than I was in NY. I like Pawlenty who just up and cut spending when the state was facing a deficit not raised taxes or sold bonds as is common practice in most states. I pay less and get better service here than I ever did in NY
The whole vonage thing was the first time I got annoyed with MN over pretty much anything..
Best post yet on this thread..
huh? I did not think one used a modem over a viop line. VIOP services line Vonage come in over your BB connection and while I guess you could redial out ofver the VIOP connection that would be a little pointless for home users..
With kids not being able to read and write you would think giving them a laptop would be low on the list..
Youre right anything that has a vulnerability is not worth spit. All this time I have been using Openssh, guess that was a waste of time. Might as well thrown every piece of software on the planet out becuase there is a vulnerability..
Umm webmin is just as secure as any ssl feature you serve..