moby: let's blow on that trawler's sails, and when it tips we can suck down all that fish on deck willy: ok, I'll blow and suck,..but I'm not swallowing any seamen.
Saying someone is a member of Sicilian mafia doesn't imply that all Sicilians are gangsters, I'm sure most aren't. Similarly, pointing out that Western banking is controlled by a Jewish cartel is not the same as saying any bad thing about most of the very fine Jewish people of the world, who are not billionaires and who don't control international banks.
oh, so it's ok to talk of a say, a Sicilian mafia or Russian mafia but not a Jewish or Semite one, if such existed? (while understanding that vast majority of Jewish people are not criminals, and not to be confused with hate groups who use an example of a Jewish crime gang or cartel or mafia as an excuse for hatred toward all Jews)
Stop waiting, Linux isn't for you. compiling a kernel of any OS with new code added will be somewhat hard. almost all Linux users don't compile kernels, the ones that do don't mind the work.
The Obama administration is the one propping up all manner of failed business models with "bailouts".
It isn't about Anglo-American culture so much as the culture of the banking cartels, whose dynastic families have a somewhat different ethnic background.....
Funny, the experts of VMS, HPs engineers who are still writing the stuff, say differently in the hp openvms forums, that excessive fragmentation can kill VMS performance and so HP themselves also sell defragmentation tools. They must know something you don't?
any caching obviously only helps in certain cases, when what is being sought is available in the cache.
as a real degreed engineer of things electrical and nuclear who has designed and built real things, I find the use of "engineering" by those in the software realm a little humorous, as they are not nearly so rigorous, and push things out the door with built in causes of catastrophic failures, read the vms patch comments sometime. At least in the last 5 years the thing looks pretty stable and good, finally.
I used to work at a switchgear plant in the Chicago Stockyards, next to a rendering plant. There animal parts and road kill and carcasses from the vet were turned into the ingredients for cosmetics, toothpaste, shampoo, glue, crayons and etc. The place some days smelled like pork rinds, and vomit on others. When I saw the title of this article I was revolted.
I do work at an HP Elite VAR, most OpenVMS is running on Alpha, the last of which was sold new in 2007. Whether they go to Integrity platform remains to be seen.
The OS to run for utter reliability from HP isn't VMS, it's NonStop. And for those not-from-HP products from IBM mainframe OS can beat VMS reliability on a single machine. VMS is just a minicomputer OS from the past, fairly good uptime if cluster as a whole considered, but for any individual machine not so quite so great. File-11 filesystem is prone to fragmentation too.
And OpenBSD does have distiguishing characteristics among the BSD, unlike FreeBSD, which put out unreliable SMP locking that siezed up under load for years, OpenBSD emphasizes correctness, and so was a better choice (and I'm still skeptical if FreeBSD team has fixed their shit). DragonFly looks promising, they forked from before the point FreeBSD went down the crapper.
You dislike Theo because of his insistence on excellence, you think of him as "socialpath" because you're threatened by his accomplishments. but he's just a tough boss. You can see what happens in inverse relation to toughness of boss, Hurd went nowhere, Linus made a kernel but GNU tools had to provide the rest, while Theo has a whole distribution to head.
mainly I was in the mood to troll at a troll, makes me feel young. But I have run VMS on VAX, Alpha and Itanium2 and OpenBSD on VAXStation 4000/60 and 4000/90. But alas, that was years ago, so no metrics as the VAXStations have given up the ghost due to cpu pin corrosion
or we could even drink a toast to it with your sig, a german drinking song "Ein Prosit" (a toast)
Ein Prosit, Ein Prosit, der Gemutlichkeit Ein Prosit, Ein Prosit, der Gemutlichkeit Eins, zwei, drei g'suffa! Zicke, zacke, zicke, zacke, hoi, hoi, hoi, Zicke, zacke, zicke, zacke, hoi, hoi, hoi, Prosit!
-- a toast a toast, the public mood one two three chug! bitch bang bitch bang hey hey hey bitch bang bitch bang hey hey hey toast!
hahaha, what a farce, Solaris through version 9 could never be hooked straight to the internet in default install or it would be pwn3d. Who runs a Solaris router or firewall? no one, that's who. Not even Sun marketing droids are dumb enough to spout the shit you just did.
VMS is slower than OpenBSD on a comparable platform running the same code because of the more complicated file system. And running DCL is slower than bash scripts.
a kernel, (in the past also called a "nucleus: or "core"), is the central part of the operating system that manages resources and allows other programs to use those resources. In operating systems, say OS for the IBM mainframe or VMS for VAX, not only is there included that core but also utility programs for systems administration tasks.
So Linux by itself is just a nucleus or kernel or core, while FreeBSD, DragonFly, NetBSD, and Mac OSX include not only a core but utilties to form a complete OS
easy for anyone older than any operating system to know the difference.
actually there are robust data center grade x86 servers, I make my living migrating Sun customers to them, and they're usually not running Solaris either.
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two hungry whales were having a discussion.
moby: let's blow on that trawler's sails, and when it tips we can suck down all that fish on deck
willy: ok, I'll blow and suck,..but I'm not swallowing any seamen.
what's the problem? it would be carbon-neutral biofuel.
Saying someone is a member of Sicilian mafia doesn't imply that all Sicilians are gangsters, I'm sure most aren't. Similarly, pointing out that Western banking is controlled by a Jewish cartel is not the same as saying any bad thing about most of the very fine Jewish people of the world, who are not billionaires and who don't control international banks.
oh, so it's ok to talk of a say, a Sicilian mafia or Russian mafia but not a Jewish or Semite one, if such existed? (while understanding that vast majority of Jewish people are not criminals, and not to be confused with hate groups who use an example of a Jewish crime gang or cartel or mafia as an excuse for hatred toward all Jews)
Stop waiting, Linux isn't for you. compiling a kernel of any OS with new code added will be somewhat hard. almost all Linux users don't compile kernels, the ones that do don't mind the work.
and you assembly wussies wonder why anyone would bother to learn numeric opcodes, processor modes and microcodes; and not blindly trust assemblers.
ok, that what just a joke.
The Obama administration is the one propping up all manner of failed business models with "bailouts".
It isn't about Anglo-American culture so much as the culture of the banking cartels, whose dynastic families have a somewhat different ethnic background.....
"linux company" could mean there is a box running linux somewhere in the dozens of locations
less and less companies use Solaris, I make my living helping them to ditch it in favor of something else
funny, my clients love Red Hat, most of them transitioned from Sun and it wasn't Red Hat who was the bully
Funny, the experts of VMS, HPs engineers who are still writing the stuff, say differently in the hp openvms forums, that excessive fragmentation can kill VMS performance and so HP themselves also sell defragmentation tools. They must know something you don't?
any caching obviously only helps in certain cases, when what is being sought is available in the cache.
as a real degreed engineer of things electrical and nuclear who has designed and built real things, I find the use of "engineering" by those in the software realm a little humorous, as they are not nearly so rigorous, and push things out the door with built in causes of catastrophic failures, read the vms patch comments sometime. At least in the last 5 years the thing looks pretty stable and good, finally.
I ran a unix-clone called Coherent on my 80286, great multi-tasking fun but it cost money.
I used to work at a switchgear plant in the Chicago Stockyards, next to a rendering plant. There animal parts and road kill and carcasses from the vet were turned into the ingredients for cosmetics, toothpaste, shampoo, glue, crayons and etc. The place some days smelled like pork rinds, and vomit on others. When I saw the title of this article I was revolted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files-11
So you don't know name of VMS filesystem, tsk, tsk.
Any real VMS admin such as myself knows Files-11 is prone to fragmentation, and it's such a problem this product has been making money for a couple decades: http://www.diskeeper.com/products/vms-vax/about-diskeeper.aspx
OpenBSD isn't my religion, I like many OS.
I do work at an HP Elite VAR, most OpenVMS is running on Alpha, the last of which was sold new in 2007. Whether they go to Integrity platform remains to be seen.
The OS to run for utter reliability from HP isn't VMS, it's NonStop. And for those not-from-HP products from IBM mainframe OS can beat VMS reliability on a single machine. VMS is just a minicomputer OS from the past, fairly good uptime if cluster as a whole considered, but for any individual machine not so quite so great. File-11 filesystem is prone to fragmentation too.
And OpenBSD does have distiguishing characteristics among the BSD, unlike FreeBSD, which put out unreliable SMP locking that siezed up under load for years, OpenBSD emphasizes correctness, and so was a better choice (and I'm still skeptical if FreeBSD team has fixed their shit). DragonFly looks promising, they forked from before the point FreeBSD went down the crapper.
You dislike Theo because of his insistence on excellence, you think of him as "socialpath" because you're threatened by his accomplishments. but he's just a tough boss. You can see what happens in inverse relation to toughness of boss, Hurd went nowhere, Linus made a kernel but GNU tools had to provide the rest, while Theo has a whole distribution to head.
mainly I was in the mood to troll at a troll, makes me feel young. But I have run VMS on VAX, Alpha and Itanium2 and OpenBSD on VAXStation 4000/60 and 4000/90. But alas, that was years ago, so no metrics as the VAXStations have given up the ghost due to cpu pin corrosion
or we could even drink a toast to it with your sig, a german drinking song "Ein Prosit" (a toast)
Ein Prosit, Ein Prosit, der Gemutlichkeit
Ein Prosit, Ein Prosit, der Gemutlichkeit
Eins, zwei, drei g'suffa!
Zicke, zacke, zicke, zacke, hoi, hoi, hoi,
Zicke, zacke, zicke, zacke, hoi, hoi, hoi,
Prosit!
--
a toast a toast, the public mood
one two three chug!
bitch bang bitch bang hey hey hey
bitch bang bitch bang hey hey hey
toast!
a U.S. centric joke http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/05/sotomayor.speeches/
hahaha, what a farce, Solaris through version 9 could never be hooked straight to the internet in default install or it would be pwn3d. Who runs a Solaris router or firewall? no one, that's who. Not even Sun marketing droids are dumb enough to spout the shit you just did. VMS is slower than OpenBSD on a comparable platform running the same code because of the more complicated file system. And running DCL is slower than bash scripts.
a kernel, (in the past also called a "nucleus: or "core"), is the central part of the operating system that manages resources and allows other programs to use those resources. In operating systems, say OS for the IBM mainframe or VMS for VAX, not only is there included that core but also utility programs for systems administration tasks. So Linux by itself is just a nucleus or kernel or core, while FreeBSD, DragonFly, NetBSD, and Mac OSX include not only a core but utilties to form a complete OS easy for anyone older than any operating system to know the difference.
I'm holding out for a true 4D cam, with temporal persistence. those 2 and 3D ones are here one instant and gone the next.
in some ways postgresql is great, but parallel clusters and replication are lagging Oracle by years.
Sun were the arrogant assholes. They rode out their name in the dot-com heyday not really innovating.
actually there are robust data center grade x86 servers, I make my living migrating Sun customers to them, and they're usually not running Solaris either.
er, what has that got to do with Sun?
here's the first archived post, http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=98/01/01/012000&tid=95
slashdot was started in Sept 1997 though. Site called "chips and dips" preceded it, that started in July of 1997