No, it was a few dozen files, and a few dozen classes. It seemed to be rebuilding the class browser tree that was bringing everything to a halt, actually.
That said, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to put 10,000 lines of code in a single file, if I wanted to. I've seen tools like ANTLR build bigger code files than that.
Yeah, the key word is "most" of the Gtk namespace. I was trying to get funky with Gdk pixbufs and got lost. Then I was trying to mess around with fonts, and got lost in the pango stuff.
I was trying to get worker threads updating the GUI, and basically had to stumble across GlibIdleHandler all by my lonesome.
I can deal with figuring it out myself, since that's been the "linux way" for so long. My coworkers, however, are used to being spoonfed working code through MSDN, so my fancy new Glade/Gtk interfaces will be stonewalled until that happens. I'm sure there are plenty of other dev houses in the same situation.
This is my first foray into gtk, so I suppose its more the lack of good examples in the docs. If I was an oldschool Gnome hacker, it probably wouldn't be much of a worry.
I havent palyed with it in a month under linux, since I got sidetracked trying to get Sybase to do something other than segfault (you need nptl to get that sucker to run under gentoo, in case anyone cares).
Fix monodevelop first! Once I hit about 10,000 lines of code it became so slow it was unusable (taking 5-10 secs to register each keystroke, even with auto-completion turned off).
It keeps getting harder and harder to find what I'm looking for. I'd say about 3/4s of the links it returns just redirect me to eBay or some assholes Amazon referrer link. If I wanted to deal with that type of sleazy spamming bullshit I'd just read a book review on/.
Are they doing anything to stop the googlebombing, scamming, and bullshit?
Because I see this bringing Google down eventually, if they dont. I mean, if their search doesnt work, what do they got? A cheesy freeware photo sorting app? Webmail?
Vonage doesn't work. They just forward your calls to a regular line. No e911 signal comes with your call. It's the magic sequence of bits that makes a big red X pop up on the map display.
Like TFA says, with Vonage, all they have is someone screaming hysterically on the other end of the line. Usually it's not even a dispatcher, they just forward your call to the local PD, and you're talking to some receptionist with no emergency training.
It'll vary from county to county.
They do not make this clear when you sign up.
Generally, vonage, et al, do not work with 911. We've contacted them to ask them what they can provide by way of an e911 interface, and they don't return our calls.
JUST TELL ME HOW I GET DOCUMENTATION FOR GTK# AND ALL THE OTHER BINDINGS!!!!!
I'm serious, you have to wade through old C based documentation, then guess what the.NET wrapper "should" look like.. Bah.
Oh, and monodevelop is still useless. Kudos for the effort, but I pretty much have to develop with #Develop under windows, then copy my exe to linux for testing.
And whats with the libicu version it requires? An emerge -u world pretty much broke everything mono related on my gentoo box.
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Only some of the potential uses.
I used an RFID card to get in and out of a city admin building all last week on site, it was much better than having to fumble for a different key for the umpteen different doors.
Technophobic dorks. Invasion of privacy, and all the other paranoias you have are all social problems, not technical ones.
Don't bitch about the tech, bitch about the people who would misuse it.
Yeah, but mobo and vidcard makers cater to the "xtreme" market.
I'd love to be able to clock my 3.06 P4 down to, say, 2.4 or so, and go with a completely fanless rig. But, nope, I can pick FSB speeds from 133 up to 200.
I wonder how much of a market there is for PC DIY types, who aren't complete morons?
You can take the cheap ones back just like the expensive ones, 12.9 is too far out, it's defective.
I could see paying more for one that runs quiet, or even one of those ones with pluggable cables, so you don't have a bundle of crap you dont need (P4 hookups for an AMD rig, or vice versa). But there's not a lot inside of a PSU to get excited about.
Antec and the rest resort to the same gimmicks as the other xtreme gear makers to sell $100 dollar units: blue LED fans, windows, things that blink and beep..
If you spent any time learning a bit about electronics, you'd realize that there's nothing in a PSU that warrants a $100+ price tag. A couple transformers, a couple voltage regulators, some diodes and capacitors to smooth the line voltages somewhat.
But you go ahead and pay extra for 2A on the +VSB line, or extra amperage on the -5V line (which was only used in ISA bus signalling).
Pretty much everything drinks off the +12V line these days anyways, if it's strong, you're OK.
Sorry to break it to you, you payed for the logo, chump.
Commercial arcade cabinet PSU's run 20-30 bucks. The electonics in many modern cabs are just as sensitive, if not moreso, than in your average PC. What makes you think that your PC needs some special magical brand of +12V and +5V?
Nah, spend it on a decent UPS that feeds a constant 110-120V into the PSU, and there's no reason any of it's line levels should fluctuate.
Besides, everything is backed up and under warranty, and I don't expect it to last more than 3 years anyways. I haven't had a problem yet. And since anectodes mean ever-so-much to slashbots, I've seen $150 antec PSU's go up in smoke.
Not enough drive bays in the PC-60 for my liking. I like a full tower with room for 8 or more 3.5" drives. I only put the motherboard in once, so the removable plate is no selling point to me.
Lian-Li do make nice cases though, if I were to make a machine to sit in someones living room, where it's to be seen, I'd probably go that route.
The prices are a bit ridiculous for a case, with no PSU.
Well, I'm not talking about hardware forums, I have my specs in my account at ACBXZone, or whatever asusforums turned into, because, well, it's appropriate there, if I ask or answer a question, to know what type of stuff I'm talking about.
I'm talking about people who put it in their sig lines on like the pokemon fan forum, or other such shit.
I'd rather forego all the battery backup stuff (and expense involved), since I just want fast, volitile storage (ie; swap space), but other than that, thanks.
Only looks like they go to 4 gigs, with 8 gigs planned? Sounds like a bummer. Still, it beats swapping out to disc, once you've hit the wall with the amount of system RAM you have.
Time to see if the boss will let me expense one of these things.
No, those are flash based, and will wear out like all flash stuff, and are slow throughput-wise, like all flash based stuff.
Ie; an external USB2 HDD is more than likely faster than any USB2 thumbdrive.
I actually boot my router box from a compact flash to IDE adapter, it's great for a read-only setup like that, and the box has no moving parts to wear out.
What I want is a compu-global-hyper-mega-swapfile, that is compatable with my token ring lan configuration.
Well, that's why I specified the ones who do it on any and all forums they participate in.
I was on a forum about bearded dragons trying to find out some info on some problems my lizard was having, and idiots there were listing "AMD 2500 OC'ed to 2550, Corsair XMS Mega Super Ultra RAM, etc.."
You can't even get just a regular PC case these days. They all look like, well, all purple and demon heads and stuff.. They look like gay, if gay was a solid object.
I just want a beige box with lots of free drive bays, damnit. I don't need a special mount for a multicolor-LED 120mm fan, or built in temperature monitors, or front panel LCD, or a big window cut in the shape of some lame video game logo.
You can't always buy new for the same price though. At least, not if you want a decent gaming/high end rig.
For cheaper, every day, mom and pop, email and word processing machines, yeah, I say just buy an eMachine or an HP or whatever's on sale that week.
But for the gaming crowd, who do you buy from that has the latest and greatest ultra video card, and RAID 0 setups, and all that type of speed freak hardware?
If you check prices at Alienware or Falcon Northwest, building your own becomes sensible again - especially if you shop around online for parts.
My point is, most retail boxes either give me more than I want, or less than I need, and I'd end up compromising something. Ie; "This Dell has a nice fast video card, good deal of RAM, but only shitty stereo onboard sound.."
Lots of times, I'll buy the cheap eMachine or whatever, then upgrade it with a real video card, RAM, etc, just so I don't have to do all the gruntwork in assembling the case, PSU, etc.
I know 14 year old xtreme d00ds get some sense of accomplishment from it, but to me it's pretty dull and thankless stuff.
I knew I didn't just dream or hallucinate those. Damnit, I want one. SDRAM modules are relatively cheap, I saw 512's for about 50 bucks are so.
800 bucks for 8 gigs of hyper-fast swap would be a much better use of cash than an Intel Xtreme Edition CPU, or some silly-ass mini-fridge for xtreme overclocking.
Actually, vantec makes nice quiet fans, and zalman makes nice quiet coolers, and I use their stuff, because I like a nice quiet room. I just dont list them in my sig because I'm so frigging proud that I installed an aftermarket cooler that everyone needs to know about it.
The ram coolers with integrated LCDs are pure dickheadery, though.
Also, overclocking is something you do when you don't understand software. I know there's more FPS to be found by hacking/tweaking the Catalyst drivers than by overclocking my Radeon card.
Yeah, what's wrong with XP's color management exactly?
And how is Linux better at "number-crunching", if you have the same CPU. If anything, VStudio will spew out more optimal code than GCC will, since it wasn't designed for every architecture under the sun.
And what does "Linux is better at miscellaneous work" mean?
Then again, I read one of these "I'm a computer hero because I built my own" articles that suggested you get a $1000 liscense for Windows Server 2003, because since it's more expensive and "industrial", it will invariably make your games run faster. The author then proceeded to lambast nVidia and ATI for not keeping 2003 driver sets up to date with the 98/ME/XP set.
Sheesh, just another idiot who thinks sticking components together makes him a PC idiot.
Anyone can install a soundcard, a DVD-R drive, or build a system from scratch.
Oh well, I got some miscellaneous work to do. Time to reboot into Ubuntu!
Not possible for many of us. My system can't support enough RAM for some of the DB stuff I'll do. I had a 7 gig swap file last week as my poor box choked through 25 gigs of data.
What I want are 5-10 gig or larger "drives" that are made up of cheaper 66mhz SDRAM modules, yet have an IDE/SATA/SCSI/(Whatever) interface, and use one of those for swap.
Putting a PC system together is fucking easy. And I'm sick of the "Xtreme l337 d00dz0rz" who spout off about the little LCD temp display in their Corsair RAM modules like they're some kind of gods of Comp. Sci.
It's easy. Build your own, I do, it's fun, and cheaper in the long run. But for fuck sakes, stop bragging about it.
Also, anyone who puts their "specs" in their sig line on any forum is a complete knob. Especially the ones who go on to list nonsense shit like "Vantec 80mm exhaust fan" or "OCZ Xtreme RAM coolers" or "Zalman Copper Northbridge Cooler".
If you don't know who I'm talking about, it's probably you.
Battery life is decent, enough for one or two gaming "sessions" (i.e. 1+ hrs. of gaming in one sitting) a day. If you want to whip out the PSP for a quick race or ten (of Wipeout, for instance), while sitting in the cafe, battery life is not an issue.
I regularly fly from coast to coast, so if'n it can't handle a 5 hour flight, and another 5 hours back (because I always forget my charger), then it sounds like a no-go for me.
Once my laptop died on the plane while I was replaying Half Life, and I had no choice to watch the in-flight movie, which was some ridiculous shit with Johnny Depp teaching a bunch of sad english kids to "imagine", as he wrote the play "Peter Pan". Never again.
V2 and up of Sony products are always better. The first PSX's were shoddy and broke alot, likewise with the V1 PS2s.
Like I said, around XMas, the flaws in the PSP will probably be fixed, if history is to repeat itself.
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No, it was a few dozen files, and a few dozen classes. It seemed to be rebuilding the class browser tree that was bringing everything to a halt, actually.
That said, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to put 10,000 lines of code in a single file, if I wanted to. I've seen tools like ANTLR build bigger code files than that.
Yeah, the key word is "most" of the Gtk namespace. I was trying to get funky with Gdk pixbufs and got lost. Then I was trying to mess around with fonts, and got lost in the pango stuff.
I was trying to get worker threads updating the GUI, and basically had to stumble across GlibIdleHandler all by my lonesome.
I can deal with figuring it out myself, since that's been the "linux way" for so long. My coworkers, however, are used to being spoonfed working code through MSDN, so my fancy new Glade/Gtk interfaces will be stonewalled until that happens. I'm sure there are plenty of other dev houses in the same situation.
This is my first foray into gtk, so I suppose its more the lack of good examples in the docs. If I was an oldschool Gnome hacker, it probably wouldn't be much of a worry.
I havent palyed with it in a month under linux, since I got sidetracked trying to get Sybase to do something other than segfault (you need nptl to get that sucker to run under gentoo, in case anyone cares).
Fix monodevelop first! Once I hit about 10,000 lines of code it became so slow it was unusable (taking 5-10 secs to register each keystroke, even with auto-completion turned off).
It just is.
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It keeps getting harder and harder to find what I'm looking for. I'd say about 3/4s of the links it returns just redirect me to eBay or some assholes Amazon referrer link. If I wanted to deal with that type of sleazy spamming bullshit I'd just read a book review on
Are they doing anything to stop the googlebombing, scamming, and bullshit?
Because I see this bringing Google down eventually, if they dont. I mean, if their search doesnt work, what do they got? A cheesy freeware photo sorting app? Webmail?
I write 911 dispatch software.
Vonage doesn't work. They just forward your calls to a regular line. No e911 signal comes with your call. It's the magic sequence of bits that makes a big red X pop up on the map display.
Like TFA says, with Vonage, all they have is someone screaming hysterically on the other end of the line. Usually it's not even a dispatcher, they just forward your call to the local PD, and you're talking to some receptionist with no emergency training.
It'll vary from county to county.
They do not make this clear when you sign up.
Generally, vonage, et al, do not work with 911. We've contacted them to ask them what they can provide by way of an e911 interface, and they don't return our calls.
JUST TELL ME HOW I GET DOCUMENTATION FOR GTK# AND ALL THE OTHER BINDINGS!!!!!
.NET wrapper "should" look like.. Bah.
I'm serious, you have to wade through old C based documentation, then guess what the
Oh, and monodevelop is still useless. Kudos for the effort, but I pretty much have to develop with #Develop under windows, then copy my exe to linux for testing.
And whats with the libicu version it requires? An emerge -u world pretty much broke everything mono related on my gentoo box.
Only some of the potential uses.
I used an RFID card to get in and out of a city admin building all last week on site, it was much better than having to fumble for a different key for the umpteen different doors.
Technophobic dorks. Invasion of privacy, and all the other paranoias you have are all social problems, not technical ones.
Don't bitch about the tech, bitch about the people who would misuse it.
Yeah, but mobo and vidcard makers cater to the "xtreme" market.
I'd love to be able to clock my 3.06 P4 down to, say, 2.4 or so, and go with a completely fanless rig. But, nope, I can pick FSB speeds from 133 up to 200.
I wonder how much of a market there is for PC DIY types, who aren't complete morons?
I agree. I was screwing with it in university back when it was still "some finnish kid's" toy project. Back when you had to bootstrap by hand.
Noone was impressed with me then, why should I be impressed when some kid sticks a knoppix CD in his xtreme blinking blue led box?
You can take the cheap ones back just like the expensive ones, 12.9 is too far out, it's defective.
I could see paying more for one that runs quiet, or even one of those ones with pluggable cables, so you don't have a bundle of crap you dont need (P4 hookups for an AMD rig, or vice versa). But there's not a lot inside of a PSU to get excited about.
Antec and the rest resort to the same gimmicks as the other xtreme gear makers to sell $100 dollar units: blue LED fans, windows, things that blink and beep..
Swapping into a software RAID array? Sounds... wrong?
I'd rather have something cheaper I could "mkswap" or "format" on bootup, than pay a premium for the whole battery backup thing.
Still, I want one, and probably will buy one.
If you spent any time learning a bit about electronics, you'd realize that there's nothing in a PSU that warrants a $100+ price tag. A couple transformers, a couple voltage regulators, some diodes and capacitors to smooth the line voltages somewhat.
But you go ahead and pay extra for 2A on the +VSB line, or extra amperage on the -5V line (which was only used in ISA bus signalling).
Pretty much everything drinks off the +12V line these days anyways, if it's strong, you're OK.
Sorry to break it to you, you payed for the logo, chump.
Commercial arcade cabinet PSU's run 20-30 bucks. The electonics in many modern cabs are just as sensitive, if not moreso, than in your average PC. What makes you think that your PC needs some special magical brand of +12V and +5V?
Nah, spend it on a decent UPS that feeds a constant 110-120V into the PSU, and there's no reason any of it's line levels should fluctuate.
Besides, everything is backed up and under warranty, and I don't expect it to last more than 3 years anyways. I haven't had a problem yet. And since anectodes mean ever-so-much to slashbots, I've seen $150 antec PSU's go up in smoke.
Not enough drive bays in the PC-60 for my liking. I like a full tower with room for 8 or more 3.5" drives. I only put the motherboard in once, so the removable plate is no selling point to me.
Lian-Li do make nice cases though, if I were to make a machine to sit in someones living room, where it's to be seen, I'd probably go that route.
The prices are a bit ridiculous for a case, with no PSU.
That's not cheap. I bought a black box at Comp USA with a bunch of open drive bays, a 420 watt power supply, for 20 bucks.
It has no fans outside of the PSU (nor does it need them), and is even more noticably quieter than your name brand case.
Well, I'm not talking about hardware forums, I have my specs in my account at ACBXZone, or whatever asusforums turned into, because, well, it's appropriate there, if I ask or answer a question, to know what type of stuff I'm talking about.
I'm talking about people who put it in their sig lines on like the pokemon fan forum, or other such shit.
That's exactly what I want!
I'd rather forego all the battery backup stuff (and expense involved), since I just want fast, volitile storage (ie; swap space), but other than that, thanks.
Only looks like they go to 4 gigs, with 8 gigs planned? Sounds like a bummer. Still, it beats swapping out to disc, once you've hit the wall with the amount of system RAM you have.
Time to see if the boss will let me expense one of these things.
No, those are flash based, and will wear out like all flash stuff, and are slow throughput-wise, like all flash based stuff.
Ie; an external USB2 HDD is more than likely faster than any USB2 thumbdrive.
I actually boot my router box from a compact flash to IDE adapter, it's great for a read-only setup like that, and the box has no moving parts to wear out.
What I want is a compu-global-hyper-mega-swapfile, that is compatable with my token ring lan configuration.
Well, that's why I specified the ones who do it on any and all forums they participate in.
I was on a forum about bearded dragons trying to find out some info on some problems my lizard was having, and idiots there were listing "AMD 2500 OC'ed to 2550, Corsair XMS Mega Super Ultra RAM, etc.."
You can't even get just a regular PC case these days. They all look like, well, all purple and demon heads and stuff.. They look like gay, if gay was a solid object.
I just want a beige box with lots of free drive bays, damnit. I don't need a special mount for a multicolor-LED 120mm fan, or built in temperature monitors, or front panel LCD, or a big window cut in the shape of some lame video game logo.
Heh, I have it too, that's how I know it's name. I bought it for the same reason as you, and I don't run around bragging about it either.
It's a friggin 2 dollar piece of aluminum that took me about 45 seconds to install.
But I can now OVeERClocK 4 moRe Mhz and get 103 More FPSes in Doom 3!!!!!1!!! w000t!
You can't always buy new for the same price though. At least, not if you want a decent gaming/high end rig.
For cheaper, every day, mom and pop, email and word processing machines, yeah, I say just buy an eMachine or an HP or whatever's on sale that week.
But for the gaming crowd, who do you buy from that has the latest and greatest ultra video card, and RAID 0 setups, and all that type of speed freak hardware?
If you check prices at Alienware or Falcon Northwest, building your own becomes sensible again - especially if you shop around online for parts.
My point is, most retail boxes either give me more than I want, or less than I need, and I'd end up compromising something. Ie; "This Dell has a nice fast video card, good deal of RAM, but only shitty stereo onboard sound.."
Lots of times, I'll buy the cheap eMachine or whatever, then upgrade it with a real video card, RAM, etc, just so I don't have to do all the gruntwork in assembling the case, PSU, etc.
I know 14 year old xtreme d00ds get some sense of accomplishment from it, but to me it's pretty dull and thankless stuff.
I knew I didn't just dream or hallucinate those. Damnit, I want one. SDRAM modules are relatively cheap, I saw 512's for about 50 bucks are so.
800 bucks for 8 gigs of hyper-fast swap would be a much better use of cash than an Intel Xtreme Edition CPU, or some silly-ass mini-fridge for xtreme overclocking.
/. keeps posting links to reviews of them.
Actually, vantec makes nice quiet fans, and zalman makes nice quiet coolers, and I use their stuff, because I like a nice quiet room. I just dont list them in my sig because I'm so frigging proud that I installed an aftermarket cooler that everyone needs to know about it.
The ram coolers with integrated LCDs are pure dickheadery, though.
Also, overclocking is something you do when you don't understand software. I know there's more FPS to be found by hacking/tweaking the Catalyst drivers than by overclocking my Radeon card.
Yeah, what's wrong with XP's color management exactly?
And how is Linux better at "number-crunching", if you have the same CPU. If anything, VStudio will spew out more optimal code than GCC will, since it wasn't designed for every architecture under the sun.
And what does "Linux is better at miscellaneous work" mean?
Then again, I read one of these "I'm a computer hero because I built my own" articles that suggested you get a $1000 liscense for Windows Server 2003, because since it's more expensive and "industrial", it will invariably make your games run faster. The author then proceeded to lambast nVidia and ATI for not keeping 2003 driver sets up to date with the 98/ME/XP set.
Sheesh, just another idiot who thinks sticking components together makes him a PC idiot.
Anyone can install a soundcard, a DVD-R drive, or build a system from scratch.
Oh well, I got some miscellaneous work to do. Time to reboot into Ubuntu!
Not possible for many of us. My system can't support enough RAM for some of the DB stuff I'll do. I had a 7 gig swap file last week as my poor box choked through 25 gigs of data.
What I want are 5-10 gig or larger "drives" that are made up of cheaper 66mhz SDRAM modules, yet have an IDE/SATA/SCSI/(Whatever) interface, and use one of those for swap.
Do they exist? If not, why not?
Putting a PC system together is fucking easy. And I'm sick of the "Xtreme l337 d00dz0rz" who spout off about the little LCD temp display in their Corsair RAM modules like they're some kind of gods of Comp. Sci.
It's easy. Build your own, I do, it's fun, and cheaper in the long run. But for fuck sakes, stop bragging about it.
Also, anyone who puts their "specs" in their sig line on any forum is a complete knob. Especially the ones who go on to list nonsense shit like "Vantec 80mm exhaust fan" or "OCZ Xtreme RAM coolers" or "Zalman Copper Northbridge Cooler".
If you don't know who I'm talking about, it's probably you.
Battery life is decent, enough for one or two gaming "sessions" (i.e. 1+ hrs. of gaming in one sitting) a day. If you want to whip out the PSP for a quick race or ten (of Wipeout, for instance), while sitting in the cafe, battery life is not an issue.
I regularly fly from coast to coast, so if'n it can't handle a 5 hour flight, and another 5 hours back (because I always forget my charger), then it sounds like a no-go for me.
Once my laptop died on the plane while I was replaying Half Life, and I had no choice to watch the in-flight movie, which was some ridiculous shit with Johnny Depp teaching a bunch of sad english kids to "imagine", as he wrote the play "Peter Pan". Never again.
V2 and up of Sony products are always better. The first PSX's were shoddy and broke alot, likewise with the V1 PS2s.
Like I said, around XMas, the flaws in the PSP will probably be fixed, if history is to repeat itself.