Good point. I used to sell PDAs about 6-7 years ago (computer sales, there's a job I don't miss!!!). Some people loved the Palm and couldn't understand why anybody'd want to carry around a Zaurus. And vice-versa, some people loved the Zaurus and couldn't figure out why anybody would settle for the tiny palm.
Different people wanted different things out of their PDA. At the time Zaurus and Palm were pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum.
At work we run course ware over the web using flash. It's amazingly idiot proof. Very few people don't have the plugin installed, and those that do need to install it have no problems doing so. Actually our biggest problem is helping users turn their speaker volume up so they can hear the audio for the course. Life's great when your number one support issue is speaker volume!
DHTML and Javascript on the other hand are a real nightmare. Every browser has its own idiosyncracy. Accounting offices are our number one audience, and a lot of them are still standardized on Netscape 4. I can't ignore them and hope they'll upgrade.
Wether to use CSS or tables is the same as whether to use scripting or programming -- it depends on the situation. Granted, situations where you would use tables instead of css are getting to be much fewer.
If you need to support Netscape 4 in an elegant manner (ie it has to look good), and you're never going to have more than one person working it that's a half-decent scripter: use tables with templates.
I work for an accounting association and all the accounting offices in our province still running nescape 4 need to be able to access the website to download documents, etc. And, yes, there are apparently large accounting offices that still use netscape 4.
My office has a budget for one webperson. They get far more out of a full-time programmer than a full-time graphic artist, so they hired somebody that can program and hire out any graphics requirements. The graphic artist gives the graphics to me, and I create a template out of it using tables and php or python (we're very slowly moving from PHP to zope+python). (Besides, I noticed that good designers get a little carried with image file size. They need need somebody to tap them on the shoulder and explain to them that nobody' going to sit around to wait for that animated chair to download!)
This way I only have ONE version of the website to keep up to date.
While I'm at it, I've got to add that I absolutely and completely despise javascript. It is completely and utterly broken if you need to support netscape 4, netscape 6, IE 5, IE 6, and I guess, now netscape 7. I have absolutely no time for it. I only use it for simple mouse overs -- hey cool the arrow changes colour when your run your mouse over it!
We run a number of online courses that require flash, so most local offices will have flash installed. If I need to program something that can't be done server side, I use flash. I can create one version that runs in all the browsers I need to make it run in. Flash can be annoying, but it definitely has its uses!
Rita.
Come to think of it, my cats would love this (it's got to be more exciting than the blank TV screen they love so much). Don't know if the roomba would love them though. I hope it responds well to pouncing and gnawing.
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The law is not giving the spammer the required feedback so he can learn that what he's doing is wrong. We're simply providing him with that feedback. And no, we're not taking an eye for eye, or a life for a life. We're just sending him truckloads of SPAM!
Some people call it karma. Send out sh*t. Get back mountains of sh*t.
Since only the Troll can see his posts, there will be no followups, unless the Troll replies to his own posts.
I think it's a brilliant idea. The Troll isn't going to try to get around a ban, since he's not banned. His posts are there for everybody to see -- or at least he thinks so. Then when he doesn't get any reponses to his posts, he's going to get bored and go away.
I hate moving/blinking ads, they drive me nuts. If I can't scroll them off the screen, I go elsewhere. I'm sure there are a significant number of people like me who'd like to jump in there and throttle those dancing logos. How do they expect their ads to give them any results when they've all been scrolled off the screen?
I'm the webmaster for an accounting association's website. At a departmental meeting (the "External Affairs" department -- I'm the lone techie) I was surprised to discover that I'm in the minority. Nobody else in this group of 5 or 6 could even have cared less about blinking/moving gadgets on the screen. But our department head had a good point -- what's the point of making something noticeable when 20-30% of your audience is immediately going to make it disappear!? I'm waiting for all the other "External Affairs" departments in this world to GET IT and make everything STOP MOVING!
The final fantasy movie did have amazing graphics. But that made the parts of the movie that weren't very realistically animated seem really off.
The characters looked very real, so I expected them to move like real people, but they didn't. That made it really difficult for me to get "immersed" in the story line.
Watching a regular animated movie where the characters look like animations, I expect them to also to move like animations. And when they do, it's no big deal; it's part of the experience.
I think Final Fantasy would have worked better if the graphics were a little less perfect.
One useful application for shrinkwrap book
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I can understand why an association might want to release a shrinkwrapped members directory with a licence agreement.
Many associations release membership directories for the use of their members (to facilitate intercommunication) and not for spammers. A shrinkwrap licence would help discourage the abuse of the directory and (theoretically!) prevent spammers from faxing/emailing/snail mailing association members with their sales crap.
The accounting association I work for has a real problem with this. Our members directories are not available to the public, but sales people are constantly trying to scam copies.
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Hate away, least we have our DSL :)
Different people wanted different things out of their PDA. At the time Zaurus and Palm were pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum.
At work we run course ware over the web using flash. It's amazingly idiot proof. Very few people don't have the plugin installed, and those that do need to install it have no problems doing so. Actually our biggest problem is helping users turn their speaker volume up so they can hear the audio for the course. Life's great when your number one support issue is speaker volume!
DHTML and Javascript on the other hand are a real nightmare. Every browser has its own idiosyncracy. Accounting offices are our number one audience, and a lot of them are still standardized on Netscape 4. I can't ignore them and hope they'll upgrade.
If you need to support Netscape 4 in an elegant manner (ie it has to look good), and you're never going to have more than one person working it that's a half-decent scripter: use tables with templates.
I work for an accounting association and all the accounting offices in our province still running nescape 4 need to be able to access the website to download documents, etc. And, yes, there are apparently large accounting offices that still use netscape 4.
My office has a budget for one webperson. They get far more out of a full-time programmer than a full-time graphic artist, so they hired somebody that can program and hire out any graphics requirements. The graphic artist gives the graphics to me, and I create a template out of it using tables and php or python (we're very slowly moving from PHP to zope+python). (Besides, I noticed that good designers get a little carried with image file size. They need need somebody to tap them on the shoulder and explain to them that nobody' going to sit around to wait for that animated chair to download!)
This way I only have ONE version of the website to keep up to date.
While I'm at it, I've got to add that I absolutely and completely despise javascript. It is completely and utterly broken if you need to support netscape 4, netscape 6, IE 5, IE 6, and I guess, now netscape 7. I have absolutely no time for it. I only use it for simple mouse overs -- hey cool the arrow changes colour when your run your mouse over it!
We run a number of online courses that require flash, so most local offices will have flash installed. If I need to program something that can't be done server side, I use flash. I can create one version that runs in all the browsers I need to make it run in. Flash can be annoying, but it definitely has its uses! Rita.
Come to think of it, my cats would love this (it's got to be more exciting than the blank TV screen they love so much). Don't know if the roomba would love them though. I hope it responds well to pouncing and gnawing.
Some people call it karma. Send out sh*t. Get back mountains of sh*t.
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Since only the Troll can see his posts, there will be no followups, unless the Troll replies to his own posts. I think it's a brilliant idea. The Troll isn't going to try to get around a ban, since he's not banned. His posts are there for everybody to see -- or at least he thinks so. Then when he doesn't get any reponses to his posts, he's going to get bored and go away.
I'm the webmaster for an accounting association's website. At a departmental meeting (the "External Affairs" department -- I'm the lone techie) I was surprised to discover that I'm in the minority. Nobody else in this group of 5 or 6 could even have cared less about blinking/moving gadgets on the screen. But our department head had a good point -- what's the point of making something noticeable when 20-30% of your audience is immediately going to make it disappear!? I'm waiting for all the other "External Affairs" departments in this world to GET IT and make everything STOP MOVING!
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The final fantasy movie did have amazing graphics. But that made the parts of the movie that weren't very realistically animated seem really off.
The characters looked very real, so I expected them to move like real people, but they didn't. That made it really difficult for me to get "immersed" in the story line.
Watching a regular animated movie where the characters look like animations, I expect them to also to move like animations. And when they do, it's no big deal; it's part of the experience.
I think Final Fantasy would have worked better if the graphics were a little less perfect.
I can understand why an association might want to release a shrinkwrapped members directory with a licence agreement. Many associations release membership directories for the use of their members (to facilitate intercommunication) and not for spammers. A shrinkwrap licence would help discourage the abuse of the directory and (theoretically!) prevent spammers from faxing/emailing/snail mailing association members with their sales crap. The accounting association I work for has a real problem with this. Our members directories are not available to the public, but sales people are constantly trying to scam copies. Fearless Froggie
No way, those Khanites had great clothes and hair. Don't remember much about the rest of the movie though.