He said "as much as possible." Red Hat could shut down their FTP server, make their installation routines closed-source, and none of this would violate the GPL. The only thing they can't do is make the Linux kernel proprietary.
The GPL doesn't require that Red Hat run an ftp server for free downloads. There's also nothing saying that Red Hat has to make their installation routines GPL, in which case it'd be illegal to copy the CD.
No x86 is RISC. It may have a RISC core, but that's irrelevant. You program for the x86 instruction set, not the processor's core. The x86 instruction set is decidedly CISC.
The RHWM's reasoning is flawed. They calculate the percentage of RHAT's market value created by "the community" by the percentage of the Red Hat distribution code created by that "community." This is obviously a ludicrous measurement, as the majority of the value of Red Hat is due to their management and marketing, not to their code. If it was just the code, everybody would be buying Slackware and Debian GNU/Linux, and Red Hat would have no value.
I thought the whole point of PnP was to keep you from having to specify io and irq addresses for hardware? Does the Linux ISAPnP implementation not have this basic feature?
"After reading these things for a while I became convinced that I could make a fortune distributing a good Linux-compatible spell checker." -Jack Bryar
Perhaps he should begin his development of a Linux-compatible grammar checker as well.
The problem for small software companies is more Microsoft than it is free software. Companies like WinGate have no problem selling their product, even though ipmasq and ipchains offer the same functionality (and more) for free. However, when Microsoft integrates NAT with win2000, that'll pretty much kill off their business.
Until either more people switch to Linux (it's currently at less than 1% marketshare for home users), or more free software is written for Windows, it's not going to have that much of an effect.
As for your Netscape example, it actually counters your point. Netscape makes almost no money from it's open-sourced browser. The bulk of Netscape's revenues come from its server software, which is completely proprietary, closed-source, software.
Perhaps for a sysadmin. We're talking about a home network here. I personally have no experience with ipmasq, ipchains, port forwarding, or any of the other fun stuff. Therefore, I highly doubt I can set them up in 10-20 seconds.
Then after reboot, I ran linuxconf, added the new card, gave it a static ip address, enabled packet forwarding and set the masquerading rules, and bam - had myself a cheap little box to share the cable connection with all the machines in my house.
That's the part that takes forever. Configuring ipmasq, packet forwarding, etc., is not exactly fun. Win2000 does it much more nicely. Linux really could use some GUI admin tools. CLI is nice for some things, but not for *everything*. GUI should at least be an option.
So is AOL's trademark application for the word "wardialer" still pending? Has anybody figured out why in the world AOL considers themselves to have a valid claim over the word (or why they'd want to)?
That doesn't seem like it's limited to E. Sure, E is the worst offender, but KDE and WM run sluggishly on my p90 as well. Win3.1 and win95 both have much faster screen redraw times.
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We're talking about 18-month old computers here. They make "bitchin' win95 desktops" as well. I have sitting in front of me a 19-month old Pentium II 266 with 96 megs of RAM, a voodoo2, and 14.8 gigs of hard drive space. It runs Win95 quite nicely, so obviously you don't need Linux to get your 18-month old hardware to run.
Perhaps your 72-month old hardware, but that's a different story.
Yeah, but if you want to make it a router for a T1 or cablemodem connection, it needs two ethernet cards. And setting up two ethernet cards in Linux is a bitch.
Mozilla is a pre-beta product, and therefore not under serious consideration as a desktop browser. We're discussing release browsers, which is currently a competition between Opera v3.61, MSIE v5.0, and Netscape v4.61. I personally prefer Opera, then MSIE, and Netscape comes in dead last.
Well, that's the official Catholic Church position - theistically guided evolution. So there are indeed some religious people that agree with you. Opposition to evolution remains mostly among the fundamentalist American protestants.
While I agree that his comment about Israelis in general was inaccurate, I'm afraid I can't say the same for the Israeli government. The United States has done some pretty bad stuff, but what Israel does, and is still doing, is much worse. At least the U.S. has an executive order barring government agencies from assassinating people, while Israel still often tries to assassinate people (they were caught a few years ago trying to kill somebody they didn't like in Jordan). Not to mention that it was even an issue when an Israeli citizen, who happened to be of an Arab ethnic background, was appointed to a security commission. If that's not racism, what is?
Reagan's policies are why we have a $4.6 trillion deficit. The deficit grew by over 150% during his tenure in office. I don't see how that's benefitted me, except for leaving me a big bill to repay.
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He said "as much as possible." Red Hat could shut down their FTP server, make their installation routines closed-source, and none of this would violate the GPL. The only thing they can't do is make the Linux kernel proprietary.
The GPL doesn't require that Red Hat run an ftp server for free downloads. There's also nothing saying that Red Hat has to make their installation routines GPL, in which case it'd be illegal to copy the CD.
You say you compile them "straight off of ftp.kernel.org," but then you say that you have to edit one of the source files. Which is it?
A program that won't compile without the end-user manually editing its source-code is a broken program.
No x86 is RISC. It may have a RISC core, but that's irrelevant. You program for the x86 instruction set, not the processor's core. The x86 instruction set is decidedly CISC.
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The RHWM's reasoning is flawed. They calculate the percentage of RHAT's market value created by "the community" by the percentage of the Red Hat distribution code created by that "community." This is obviously a ludicrous measurement, as the majority of the value of Red Hat is due to their management and marketing, not to their code. If it was just the code, everybody would be buying Slackware and Debian GNU/Linux, and Red Hat would have no value.
I thought the whole point of PnP was to keep you from having to specify io and irq addresses for hardware? Does the Linux ISAPnP implementation not have this basic feature?
"After reading these things for a while I became convinced that I could make a fortune distributing a good Linux-compatible spell checker."
-Jack Bryar
Perhaps he should begin his development of a Linux-compatible grammar checker as well.
The problem for small software companies is more Microsoft than it is free software. Companies like WinGate have no problem selling their product, even though ipmasq and ipchains offer the same functionality (and more) for free. However, when Microsoft integrates NAT with win2000, that'll pretty much kill off their business.
Until either more people switch to Linux (it's currently at less than 1% marketshare for home users), or more free software is written for Windows, it's not going to have that much of an effect.
As for your Netscape example, it actually counters your point. Netscape makes almost no money from it's open-sourced browser. The bulk of Netscape's revenues come from its server software, which is completely proprietary, closed-source, software.
Perhaps for a sysadmin. We're talking about a home network here. I personally have no experience with ipmasq, ipchains, port forwarding, or any of the other fun stuff. Therefore, I highly doubt I can set them up in 10-20 seconds.
You're buying people free UPS's now?
If not, that's not a solution. I'm not going to spend $50 because ext2fs sucks.
Then after reboot, I ran linuxconf, added the new card, gave it a static ip address, enabled packet forwarding and set the masquerading rules, and bam - had myself a cheap little box to share the cable connection with all the machines in my house.
That's the part that takes forever. Configuring ipmasq, packet forwarding, etc., is not exactly fun. Win2000 does it much more nicely. Linux really could use some GUI admin tools. CLI is nice for some things, but not for *everything*. GUI should at least be an option.
Of course. This is "News for teenage nerds. Linux stuff that matters." after all.
Wait for your next power outage, and see how nicely ext2fs handles *that*.
Then I suppose you are in favor of ditching ext2fs? It's crappy software that corrupts files during a power outage.
Well, if you weren't an Anonymous Coward, you could choose to filter out Jon Katz stories.
Since you are, i guess that's your problem.
So is AOL's trademark application for the word "wardialer" still pending? Has anybody figured out why in the world AOL considers themselves to have a valid claim over the word (or why they'd want to)?
That doesn't seem like it's limited to E. Sure, E is the worst offender, but KDE and WM run sluggishly on my p90 as well. Win3.1 and win95 both have much faster screen redraw times.
We're talking about 18-month old computers here. They make "bitchin' win95 desktops" as well. I have sitting in front of me a 19-month old Pentium II 266 with 96 megs of RAM, a voodoo2, and 14.8 gigs of hard drive space. It runs Win95 quite nicely, so obviously you don't need Linux to get your 18-month old hardware to run.
Perhaps your 72-month old hardware, but that's a different story.
Yeah, but if you want to make it a router for a T1 or cablemodem connection, it needs two ethernet cards. And setting up two ethernet cards in Linux is a bitch.
Mozilla is a pre-beta product, and therefore not under serious consideration as a desktop browser. We're discussing release browsers, which is currently a competition between Opera v3.61, MSIE v5.0, and Netscape v4.61. I personally prefer Opera, then MSIE, and Netscape comes in dead last.
Wine Is Not an Emulator, damnit!
Well, that's the official Catholic Church position - theistically guided evolution. So there are indeed some religious people that agree with you. Opposition to evolution remains mostly among the fundamentalist American protestants.
The strange thing is that the religious people themselves agree with you. Something about "The Lord is my shepherd" comes to mind.
While I agree that his comment about Israelis in general was inaccurate, I'm afraid I can't say the same for the Israeli government. The United States has done some pretty bad stuff, but what Israel does, and is still doing, is much worse. At least the U.S. has an executive order barring government agencies from assassinating people, while Israel still often tries to assassinate people (they were caught a few years ago trying to kill somebody they didn't like in Jordan). Not to mention that it was even an issue when an Israeli citizen, who happened to be of an Arab ethnic background, was appointed to a security commission. If that's not racism, what is?
Reagan's policies are why we have a $4.6 trillion deficit. The deficit grew by over 150% during his tenure in office. I don't see how that's benefitted me, except for leaving me a big bill to repay.