Forget to say also in my last post, that the governement over here ordered Videotron, the largest cable provider, to give away 15% or 20% for free of their network, so that other ISP using cable modem could exist. Even tough Videotron is still the largest high speed provider in Quebec, small companies offering similar deals are starting to emerge and are showing profit right now, using the free network.
You are totally right, we had the same kind of problem here in Quebec recently, where the largest cable provider (Videotron) was bought by the largest newspaper/magazine/tv-network (Quebecor) company. Eventualy, Quebecor had to sell their TV-Network division, since Videotron already owned TVA, the most popular TV network in Quebec.
For the AOL Time Warner deal, I wasn't getting the whole picture, since AOL and Time Warner are not too much in Canada (I'd be really surprised to find someone who subscribed to AOL Canada here in Quebec, when you can have cable modem for 30$/month).
Nice comment Ray!
I mean, these CEOs are "supposed" to think when they're buying a company or merging with another one, right? They're supposed to plan everything! Why didn't thet plan THAT! Why don't they go to the courts first and ask : can we do it? That would save them a lot of time, and for their best interrests, a lot of money. Even tough AOL is a very arrogant company, didn't the CEO even think a minute : "Hey, are we be controling too much information for the governement's taste? Maybe we should ask first before spending millions of hard *cough-cough* earned money!?!"
huh? How come this comment is interresting? Don't you read the news? Transmetta demonstrated their processors at the Microprocessor Forum, and it ran great. And the life saving feature was awesome.
That's not the point. The point is, move on, it was nice reading about a few time on/., but now, it's getting old. Yeah, I totally understand, I'd really like to have many processors working together, I trully dig SMP, kinda dig Linux, and by what I've seen, Beowulf is interresting idea, but gee weez, get over it.
Godammit!!! Stop talking about Beowulf, it's an old stupid line, it was funny at first, but now it's lame. I know this is flamebait, and I wrote that I was against it, but gee whizz, move on poeple!
I've read a few posts on/. so far about this story, and I'm glad to see that not a lot of people has problem with that. I mean, I understand MS. Ok sure, the people who will benefit most of this is MS, but still, it still seems normal that a vendor should encourage a buyer to buy windows ( or red hat, or suse, or whatever ) when buying a computer. Anyway, it's a software you're going to use everyday for 3 or 4 years, so come to think of it, 1460 days of windows use, at about 10 cents a day. It's not that bad. Sure it's not as good as the linux deal, where you get everything thing for free, bt still. Okay, so maybe this was a bit extreme exemple, but still, I think's it's normal that sellers encourage people to buy their OS. And the ones who are installing pirated version should be closed down. Forcing users tough would be bad, since I don't see why I should buy Windows98SE again since I already have legally bought it elsewhere.
I've also read on Tom's Hardware a couple of weeks back that AMD is also working on a dual CPU on a chip for the SledgeHammer line of chips. I don't know everything on processors, but I'd be interrested to read some articles explaining why a two CPU on a chip design is all that better than a simple mobo with two sockets, or is it just hype. I'm sure there are really bid advantages, but I never heard about this idea before a few weeks ago, and AMD says it's working on it, and now SiByte is shipping one of these thing. I mean, AMD still hasn't released a SMP chipset yet (but they are working on one right now, look for AMD760MP on Google) and they are talking about two CPU on a chip. I don't think Intel has said anything about it yet. I wonder what where Transmetta, AMD, Cyrix and Intel's reaction to this?
I totally agree with you, that's why I said, if questions ARE VALID, ask them. What I meant by valid is that it can't be found easily, or something that the documentation isn't telling and you need.
How dare you say flame newbies and kick them out? Now, I could add "You're an a**", but that wouldn't prove my point, would it? I think it's great that newbies come around and ask questions, because it brings new blood to the community and new ideas. As long as the questions are valid, I don't see a problem with newbies asking questions. Stop being proud to know all that, whatever "that" is, and help people out. It's not because you're on the web that it is now morally acceptable to tell someone "You're an a**". The thing is, you will probably get away with it, but it still doesn't mean it's right.
I mean, you're reading that post on Slashdot, and it's really interresting. You make an insigthfull comment on it (which gets ignored by the moderators, and the other one below which is funny gets rated 5, but that's another topic, and if I don't stop now, I might get "flamebaitted"), and are proud of what you had to say. It seems that of all the posts there are on this subject, you have brought a new light to it, something that people didn't see the first time around when they posted their comment. You come back a few hours later wondering if someone replied to what you wrote, to read : "haha sux0rz" or, "You s***, 'X' company are f****** losers and you are a complete retard". I just hate that. Flamebait should not not be tolerated, and free speech has it's limits. If something is irrelevant, don't publish it, even tough it might be funny. I know censorship isn't what most slashdotters like, but Slashdot might need a little more of that.
This may be in part true, maybe they could cost more than other dual ou quad mobos. But they are definitely possible. AMD will soon release the AMD760MP, which has Athlon multiprocessor system written all over it. It will be a 4 CPU chipset (or maybe two, not sure). But that's not all, the protocol that uses the Athlons to communicate is called Ev6 protocol, which has been created by Alpha for use in they processors. This protocol can support up to 15 (not 16, which seems strange to me.) processors at the same time. And AMD said bevore launch of the Athlon last year that their would be a 15 CPU chipset someday. What is someday tough, I'm not sure. I'm sure they'll want a good chunk of the desktop market before trying too much in the server market with a 15 cpu monster.
Don't ask me if this is right, but some teacher in class told us that the concept of hyperlinking was used for the first time to index everything when they created the first atom bomb during the 2nd world war. Almost 30 years before BT used their mouse to click on their little links. Can anyone validate this?
This is a small step to standardize the instant messaging protocols. I'm wondering when other cough*microsoft*cough companies will sit down with AOL and think about how to work together. It's a shame though that the only two softwares that are going to merge together are owned by AOL. It would be interresting to see if Microsoft would be interrested to team up with AOL and make some standard ( After all, monopolies should agree well together, don't you think). Beside, maybe that's because I don't know much about instant massaging, but there aren't really other software the provides instant messaging (except the ICQ clones and AIM clones on Windows and Linux, tough I doubt that someone wrote a Linux version of "MSN Messenger" ), I don't think there are other instant messaging softwares. So I guess it's pretty much up to these two if we want a standard.
I am totally right with you, even though this is not he right article to speak about this, me too am tired of all those non intelligent, boyish comments that so many slashdotters make. And all that hate toward microsoft, aol or the companies suing napster is often driven by what is called up here in canada by a teen crisis, or teenager who are always complaining about Bouhou... napster is being sued, or boohoo, nintendo shut down another n64 rom site. I can't beleive that moderators some time give these people a higher score. Yeah sure, I can browse at 3, but still, I'm still going to see lot's of irrelevant remarks or people laughing at someone else's comment. This has to stop and Slashdot is not the place it used to be. And now, go ahead, and rate me offtopic, or flamebait. Someone (and I've been thinking doing it myself) should write an editorial on slashdot to criticize it's readers and make them think of what their community is starting to look like to professionals and the public in general. If not, Slashdot will lose the credibility that it once had, and ultimately, it's readers.
Mainsoft has already ported apps before to unix. We have at work a program make my Mainsoft that runs win32 apps under unix. I don't know much about it. It was shown to me when I talked about this post at my job, and they showed me Microsoft Source Safe, which ran about 4x slower on his 500mhz then on my 300mhz.
I mean, nobody ever really uses DOS these days. Almost, if not all, applications have their DOS equivalent under Windows. And if the program you develloped for a company needs DOS to run, then you probably don't need Windows ME anyway. This is a good thing they decided to remove DOS. Besides, Windows NT4 workstation works soooo well. I had only one BSOD in 8 months! And I do some heavy stuff like realtime video effects for a TV Network. I'm pretty sure backward compatibility with DOS is the reason for a certain amount of BSOD. So this should turn out to be a good think. Viva Windows ME.:-\
It just occured to me that Nintendo and Sega may be shutting down ROM websites because when people decide to play old games, they are not buying the current crop of games which are the ones they can make money with. Think about it, why buy a brand new Sega game while you're busy having a great time playing some game you got for free? It the end, Sega sells games less often and their market share is smaller. Especially when people are starting to feel nostalgic and want to play old games. And also, let's face it, games are often not what they used to be : compelling and fun.
This has been said by many people, and I thought they needed to be corrected on that particular subject : multiprocessor boards from AMD. Even tough there are no multi-processor boards right now, the EV6 bus (which as been created by Sun I think) used by the Athlon can use up to 14 processors at a time! And how can Intel do so far? They have problems to have more than 4 processors right now, or at least, last time I read about it. AMD has shown 14 Athlons used together, but this would cost too much to produce. Why don't they release MP motherboards? Because AMD needs to have a good single processor user base before going to multi-processor systems.
Personnally, I think Tom is right. Intel has been struggling in the past few months to compete with AMD and the only thing that kept them going so strong is because they have very good marketting and because the Intel brand is what most poeple hear and talk about. Ever talked about AMD to a regular computer user? Ah, and the bullshit about the new AMD processors not working with every software. That used to be true, but let me tell you, my new Thunderbird 700 has no problem with any software, in fact, it outperforms the 733EB my friend has!
Beside, I don't think Tom wants to destroy Intel as someone posted earlier. Intel just deserve some good spaking because they're so arrogant (just like Microsoft are) and don't have the best processors anymore. If they weren't that arrogant, they wouldn't need a good spanking, but they are, so...
Which brings us to an interresting point : why is Intel bashing bad, but Microsoft bashing good. Ok, so Intel is not as bad and monopolistic an Microsoft, but still, Intel these days is a lot of hype and AMD is still the king of the x86 market when you look at the performance charts.
It's a project I beleive is usefull and that it will succeed. I've seen OpenSource projects before, but none of them really ever captured my attention. This one tough, is, in my own opinion the mose ambitious open project ever. The difference about this and Linux, is that this could probably even more complicated to do, since e can't look back at another OS (like Linux did) to understand how Windows work. No source code is a real pain in this project, but it sure if feasible.
Nice article. Interresting views. But all this doesn't change the fact that the original Napster goal was and always has been to help people copy MP3 files whether they are illegal copies or song authorized by the artists, even tough Napster will never admit it.
Sure, I believe that the company behind Napster wanted to be able one day to control the transfers so artist would be compensated and receive the money for the songs downloaded, BUT they should have never released Napster the way it works right now.
Sure, sites like www.google.com or mp3.lycos.com may help users to find MP3 files on the web, but they don't have the scope and efficiency of Napster.
I like Napster, and use it often to try CD's before buying them, but I won't be mad when it is closed for good, and I will go back to radio to listen to music before buying an album, or will consider other alternatives like Gnutella.
People just can't be trusted enough to allow them to use such software.
Someone posted earlier that he/she doesn't understand why people always have to pay for what they read. For sure, libraries will let you rent the books for free. For me, the idea of paying 20$ for a book, instead of waiting a month or two before it gets to my local lbrary, is about giving a writer an appreciation of their work. Call me old fashioned, but it feels right when I give someone money for a great book or an anwesome movie. Hey, that person deserves it. And if I didn't like the book afterall, well, I'll be more carefull with that writer's books next time.
Forget to say also in my last post, that the governement over here ordered Videotron, the largest cable provider, to give away 15% or 20% for free of their network, so that other ISP using cable modem could exist. Even tough Videotron is still the largest high speed provider in Quebec, small companies offering similar deals are starting to emerge and are showing profit right now, using the free network.
You are totally right, we had the same kind of problem here in Quebec recently, where the largest cable provider (Videotron) was bought by the largest newspaper/magazine/tv-network (Quebecor) company. Eventualy, Quebecor had to sell their TV-Network division, since Videotron already owned TVA, the most popular TV network in Quebec.
For the AOL Time Warner deal, I wasn't getting the whole picture, since AOL and Time Warner are not too much in Canada (I'd be really surprised to find someone who subscribed to AOL Canada here in Quebec, when you can have cable modem for 30$/month).
Nice comment Ray!
I mean, these CEOs are "supposed" to think when they're buying a company or merging with another one, right? They're supposed to plan everything! Why didn't thet plan THAT! Why don't they go to the courts first and ask : can we do it? That would save them a lot of time, and for their best interrests, a lot of money. Even tough AOL is a very arrogant company, didn't the CEO even think a minute : "Hey, are we be controling too much information for the governement's taste? Maybe we should ask first before spending millions of hard *cough-cough* earned money!?!"
Sorry, the person who moderated this to 5 (funny) shouldn't moderate again... I like to laugh, but failed to find a reason to laugh at that comment.
huh? How come this comment is interresting? Don't you read the news? Transmetta demonstrated their processors at the Microprocessor Forum, and it ran great. And the life saving feature was awesome.
That's not the point. The point is, move on, it was nice reading about a few time on /., but now, it's getting old. Yeah, I totally understand, I'd really like to have many processors working together, I trully dig SMP, kinda dig Linux, and by what I've seen, Beowulf is interresting idea, but gee weez, get over it.
Godammit!!! Stop talking about Beowulf, it's an old stupid line, it was funny at first, but now it's lame. I know this is flamebait, and I wrote that I was against it, but gee whizz, move on poeple!
I've read a few posts on /. so far about this story, and I'm glad to see that not a lot of people has problem with that. I mean, I understand MS. Ok sure, the people who will benefit most of this is MS, but still, it still seems normal that a vendor should encourage a buyer to buy windows ( or red hat, or suse, or whatever ) when buying a computer. Anyway, it's a software you're going to use everyday for 3 or 4 years, so come to think of it, 1460 days of windows use, at about 10 cents a day. It's not that bad. Sure it's not as good as the linux deal, where you get everything thing for free, bt still. Okay, so maybe this was a bit extreme exemple, but still, I think's it's normal that sellers encourage people to buy their OS. And the ones who are installing pirated version should be closed down. Forcing users tough would be bad, since I don't see why I should buy Windows98SE again since I already have legally bought it elsewhere.
I've also read on Tom's Hardware a couple of weeks back that AMD is also working on a dual CPU on a chip for the SledgeHammer line of chips. I don't know everything on processors, but I'd be interrested to read some articles explaining why a two CPU on a chip design is all that better than a simple mobo with two sockets, or is it just hype. I'm sure there are really bid advantages, but I never heard about this idea before a few weeks ago, and AMD says it's working on it, and now SiByte is shipping one of these thing. I mean, AMD still hasn't released a SMP chipset yet (but they are working on one right now, look for AMD760MP on Google) and they are talking about two CPU on a chip. I don't think Intel has said anything about it yet. I wonder what where Transmetta, AMD, Cyrix and Intel's reaction to this?
I totally agree with you, that's why I said, if questions ARE VALID, ask them. What I meant by valid is that it can't be found easily, or something that the documentation isn't telling and you need.
How dare you say flame newbies and kick them out? Now, I could add "You're an a**", but that wouldn't prove my point, would it? I think it's great that newbies come around and ask questions, because it brings new blood to the community and new ideas. As long as the questions are valid, I don't see a problem with newbies asking questions. Stop being proud to know all that, whatever "that" is, and help people out. It's not because you're on the web that it is now morally acceptable to tell someone "You're an a**". The thing is, you will probably get away with it, but it still doesn't mean it's right.
I mean, you're reading that post on Slashdot, and it's really interresting. You make an insigthfull comment on it (which gets ignored by the moderators, and the other one below which is funny gets rated 5, but that's another topic, and if I don't stop now, I might get "flamebaitted"), and are proud of what you had to say. It seems that of all the posts there are on this subject, you have brought a new light to it, something that people didn't see the first time around when they posted their comment. You come back a few hours later wondering if someone replied to what you wrote, to read : "haha sux0rz" or, "You s***, 'X' company are f****** losers and you are a complete retard". I just hate that. Flamebait should not not be tolerated, and free speech has it's limits. If something is irrelevant, don't publish it, even tough it might be funny. I know censorship isn't what most slashdotters like, but Slashdot might need a little more of that.
This may be in part true, maybe they could cost more than other dual ou quad mobos. But they are definitely possible. AMD will soon release the AMD760MP, which has Athlon multiprocessor system written all over it. It will be a 4 CPU chipset (or maybe two, not sure). But that's not all, the protocol that uses the Athlons to communicate is called Ev6 protocol, which has been created by Alpha for use in they processors. This protocol can support up to 15 (not 16, which seems strange to me.) processors at the same time. And AMD said bevore launch of the Athlon last year that their would be a 15 CPU chipset someday. What is someday tough, I'm not sure. I'm sure they'll want a good chunk of the desktop market before trying too much in the server market with a 15 cpu monster.
Don't ask me if this is right, but some teacher in class told us that the concept of hyperlinking was used for the first time to index everything when they created the first atom bomb during the 2nd world war. Almost 30 years before BT used their mouse to click on their little links. Can anyone validate this?
I still have ICQ99a which features no add so if your interrested, I could put it up on a web page. Tell me about by email.
Ok, so maybe I should have read the news completely first. Microsoft, Yahoo and eXcite seem to have come to an agrement. This is great!
This is a small step to standardize the instant messaging protocols. I'm wondering when other cough*microsoft*cough companies will sit down with AOL and think about how to work together. It's a shame though that the only two softwares that are going to merge together are owned by AOL. It would be interresting to see if Microsoft would be interrested to team up with AOL and make some standard ( After all, monopolies should agree well together, don't you think). Beside, maybe that's because I don't know much about instant massaging, but there aren't really other software the provides instant messaging (except the ICQ clones and AIM clones on Windows and Linux, tough I doubt that someone wrote a Linux version of "MSN Messenger" ), I don't think there are other instant messaging softwares. So I guess it's pretty much up to these two if we want a standard.
I am totally right with you, even though this is not he right article to speak about this, me too am tired of all those non intelligent, boyish comments that so many slashdotters make. And all that hate toward microsoft, aol or the companies suing napster is often driven by what is called up here in canada by a teen crisis, or teenager who are always complaining about Bouhou... napster is being sued, or boohoo, nintendo shut down another n64 rom site. I can't beleive that moderators some time give these people a higher score. Yeah sure, I can browse at 3, but still, I'm still going to see lot's of irrelevant remarks or people laughing at someone else's comment. This has to stop and Slashdot is not the place it used to be. And now, go ahead, and rate me offtopic, or flamebait. Someone (and I've been thinking doing it myself) should write an editorial on slashdot to criticize it's readers and make them think of what their community is starting to look like to professionals and the public in general. If not, Slashdot will lose the credibility that it once had, and ultimately, it's readers.
Mainsoft has already ported apps before to unix. We have at work a program make my Mainsoft that runs win32 apps under unix. I don't know much about it. It was shown to me when I talked about this post at my job, and they showed me Microsoft Source Safe, which ran about 4x slower on his 500mhz then on my 300mhz.
I mean, nobody ever really uses DOS these days. Almost, if not all, applications have their DOS equivalent under Windows. And if the program you develloped for a company needs DOS to run, then you probably don't need Windows ME anyway. This is a good thing they decided to remove DOS. Besides, Windows NT4 workstation works soooo well. I had only one BSOD in 8 months! And I do some heavy stuff like realtime video effects for a TV Network. I'm pretty sure backward compatibility with DOS is the reason for a certain amount of BSOD. So this should turn out to be a good think. Viva Windows ME. :-\
It just occured to me that Nintendo and Sega may be shutting down ROM websites because when people decide to play old games, they are not buying the current crop of games which are the ones they can make money with. Think about it, why buy a brand new Sega game while you're busy having a great time playing some game you got for free? It the end, Sega sells games less often and their market share is smaller. Especially when people are starting to feel nostalgic and want to play old games. And also, let's face it, games are often not what they used to be : compelling and fun.
This has been said by many people, and I thought they needed to be corrected on that particular subject : multiprocessor boards from AMD. Even tough there are no multi-processor boards right now, the EV6 bus (which as been created by Sun I think) used by the Athlon can use up to 14 processors at a time! And how can Intel do so far? They have problems to have more than 4 processors right now, or at least, last time I read about it. AMD has shown 14 Athlons used together, but this would cost too much to produce. Why don't they release MP motherboards? Because AMD needs to have a good single processor user base before going to multi-processor systems.
Personnally, I think Tom is right. Intel has been struggling in the past few months to compete with AMD and the only thing that kept them going so strong is because they have very good marketting and because the Intel brand is what most poeple hear and talk about. Ever talked about AMD to a regular computer user? Ah, and the bullshit about the new AMD processors not working with every software. That used to be true, but let me tell you, my new Thunderbird 700 has no problem with any software, in fact, it outperforms the 733EB my friend has!
Beside, I don't think Tom wants to destroy Intel as someone posted earlier. Intel just deserve some good spaking because they're so arrogant (just like Microsoft are) and don't have the best processors anymore. If they weren't that arrogant, they wouldn't need a good spanking, but they are, so...
Which brings us to an interresting point : why is Intel bashing bad, but Microsoft bashing good. Ok, so Intel is not as bad and monopolistic an Microsoft, but still, Intel these days is a lot of hype and AMD is still the king of the x86 market when you look at the performance charts.
It's a project I beleive is usefull and that it will succeed. I've seen OpenSource projects before, but none of them really ever captured my attention. This one tough, is, in my own opinion the mose ambitious open project ever. The difference about this and Linux, is that this could probably even more complicated to do, since e can't look back at another OS (like Linux did) to understand how Windows work. No source code is a real pain in this project, but it sure if feasible.
Nice article. Interresting views. But all this doesn't change the fact that the original Napster goal was and always has been to help people copy MP3 files whether they are illegal copies or song authorized by the artists, even tough Napster will never admit it.
Sure, I believe that the company behind Napster wanted to be able one day to control the transfers so artist would be compensated and receive the money for the songs downloaded, BUT they should have never released Napster the way it works right now.
Sure, sites like www.google.com or mp3.lycos.com may help users to find MP3 files on the web, but they don't have the scope and efficiency of Napster.
I like Napster, and use it often to try CD's before buying them, but I won't be mad when it is closed for good, and I will go back to radio to listen to music before buying an album, or will consider other alternatives like Gnutella.
People just can't be trusted enough to allow them to use such software.
Someone posted earlier that he/she doesn't understand why people always have to pay for what they read. For sure, libraries will let you rent the books for free. For me, the idea of paying 20$ for a book, instead of waiting a month or two before it gets to my local lbrary, is about giving a writer an appreciation of their work. Call me old fashioned, but it feels right when I give someone money for a great book or an anwesome movie. Hey, that person deserves it. And if I didn't like the book afterall, well, I'll be more carefull with that writer's books next time.