No, the Sandstorm Enterprises NetIntercept product has been around for the last four years. It's hardly new and hardly something somebody would get an award for just buying (at $20,000, by the way.) The company started with PhoneSweep, a wardialing detector.
It didn't sound to me like they were talking about the Sandstorm Enterprises NetIntercept product, it sounded to me like they were talking about a system devised by the people working for the division. Just a coincidence that it sounds like the Sandstorm product. Why would they give an award to some guys who just went out and bought a commercially available product?
First of all, I never agreed to any of this except under duress, so I can hardly be referred to as a "trader" in this regard.
Second, I have NOT been made safe by any stretch of the imagination from anything that might possibly be harmful by any government action.
Your comment is simply wrong. I assume what you meant to say is that the state has taken numerous civil liberties away from the citizenry in SUPPOSED exchange for imposing various regulations that are SUPPOSED to protect the citizenry. Nothing of the latter has been demonstrated to be true, and in the vast majority of cases is demonstrably false.
So you comment is still wrong.
"The world is grey". Duh! Talk about pointless quote throwing...
He obviously meant that there IS no such thing as "permanent safety" (and there isn't short of being Transhuman and even then you probably have to worry about interstellar gamma ray bursts). Anybody who thinks the US government can make anybody "safe" from anything is a total idiot. They can't even keep the Prez safe as several Prez's have proven by taking bullets.
And there are no such things as "inessential liberties" since by definition if you are not free to do what you want, you are simply not free. Political freedom is like being pregnant - you either are or you aren't. You either submit to the state in one or more respects, or you don't.
What you are NEVER free from, however, is the consequences of your free actions - which isn't relevant to the discussion because we are discussing political freedom, not physical or social cause and effect.
Seems to me Bush is working to turn the other 60% to follow suit (except those areas flooded out by hurricanes so his cronies can profit from a land grab.)
The state has been marketing the same shit for thousands of years and it's worked every time.
The name doesn't matter. After all, we're "liberating Iraqis" (from their lives.) We're all for "democracy" (while stealing the election using voting machine fraud.) "We don't torture" (we just hook people up to electrical devices and fry their nuts or let dogs chew on them or just do the ol' beat the shit out of them technigue.)
I mean, "Sandstorm"? Where did they get that one from? Obviously trying to play into the DOD's line of horeshit names for Iraqi military operations. They should try some like "Operation Total Losers", "Operation Nothing Fucking Worked", or "Operation We Got Our Asses Shot Off." "Operation FUBAR" would be a classic.
"Let's make sure no one even thinks anything bad against the government."
I think that's the aim of Bush's plan to require psychiatric examination of anybody and everybody who might be the least bit "other" than him (excluding Karl Rove, of course, who IS him.)
The president's commission found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.
The commission also recommended "Linkage [of screening] with treatment and supports" including "state-of-the-art treatments" using "specific medications for specific conditions." The commission commended the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP) as a "model" medication treatment plan that "illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes..."
But the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, sparked off controversy when Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plan in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in the medication algorithm (15 May, p1153). He was sacked this week for speaking to the BMJ and the New York Times.
"any technology that is largely used for benign purposes"
Right - and your Bush-loving, neocon asshole fucking bias is obvious from your assumption that ANY technology developed by the fucking government - the one that lied us into Iraq and is currently lying us into Syria and Iran - for purposes of SPYING will be "largely used for benign purposes."
Which makes you a fucking moron - not to mention a gutless unpatriotic state-worshipping wimp.
Repeat after me: NOTHING a Microsoft employee who is authorized to talk to the media says is ANYTHING but a LIE!
These guys make Scooter Libby look like the soul of honesty.
Pointless to even discuss anything they say as if it had meaning. There's no more meaning to a Microsoft statement than one from George "We don't torture" Bush.
No, you got none of it right, mostly because you don't have the foggiest clue what you're talking about.
If you haven't read the history of the discovery of the Scrolls, nor read any of the translations, obviously you are clueless, right? Nowhere did I say any of these scrolls are fakes, in any event.
There's absolutely nothing secret about them NOW, since as I so carefully pointed out, they were fully exposed to the academic community as a result of photographs released by a member of the Bechtel family. BEFORE THAT, the scrolls were only examined by a select group of Catholic priests in Israel.
8) The bulk of the scrolls were in Jordanian control and were placed with a team of Christian (mostly Catholic--no Jewish) scholars who over the next four decades published eight volumes of material. The team was left intact by the Israelis after the Six Day War (1967). The publication schedule was constantly delayed and many outsiders found the official team to be arrogant and unyielding. The team was expanded in the 1980's and was much more broadly based, finally including Jewish scholars and a more open approach to sharing materials.
9) As much as 40% of the Scrolls, mostly fragments from Cave 4, remained unpublished and unreleased (photos), until pressure mounted in the 1980's. A breakthrough occurred in the Fall, 1991: the photos were published by the Biblical Archaeological Society in a non-official edition; a computer reconstruction, based on a concordance, was announced; the Huntington library pledged to open their microfilm files of all the scroll photographs.
Wikipedia also has a nice overview.
Read "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception" by Baigent and Leigh for the full story - especially the direct anti-Semitic quotes from the Catholic priests involved in the study.
No surprise that the average Jew - especially those outside of Israel - is as ignorant of their own religion as the average Christian. Very few people read religious archaeology journals or even the various popular treatises about the discoveries of the last century or even the known history of their own religion.
Most Jews have probably never read even any quotes from the Zionist literature, either, just as most Christians have never read any quotes from Catholic priests and Popes going back centuries concerning the Jews.
All of the Catholic priests charged with studying the Dead Sea Scrolls (at an institute in Israel, no less) were hardcore anti-Semites, for instance. One of them even absconded with a critical fragment of the documents and has never been found since. The Scrolls are considered the archaeological scandal of the Twentieth Century, since their import was concealed by the Catholics for forty years until photos of them were leaked by a Bechtel relative (Bechtel was financing the institute studying them, apparently), allowing other academics to access them. The one secular researcher was kicked off the team back in the Fifties when he realized their import.
And how many SERVER administrators give a shit whether it's KDE or GNOME on their SERVERS?
Your post is irrelevant to the discussion. We're not talking about whether KDE or GNOME is better than the Windows desktop, we're talking about which is preferred by existing Linux users and therefore likely to preferred by NEW Linux users.
Here's a fact (well, they call it a fact, anyway, how do I know?): the PDF magazine Tux says their readers prefer KDE three to one over GNOME.
Take it for what it's worth.
I personally find GNOME somewhat ugly, but then I'm used to KDE since every distro since Red Hat 7.0 I've ever used I've selected KDE as the desktop.
I don't mind having two desktops to choose from, but if this religious war bullshit doesn't stop, they either need to merge or one of them needs to go away or a third desktop needs to eclipse them because the arguments over implementation minutae are boring.
The real question is how far can the big boys get when there is nearly a three-to-one user preference for KDE?
According to Tux, almost all their readers are backing KDE.
Sounds like self-destructive for Novell to switch to GNOME to me. I know they are including the libraries and all and you can still switch to KDE if you want, but defaulting to GNOME when most people like KDE is a bit odd.
Naah...They didn't put Satan in the White House - just his son...
Oh, wait, his father was President earlier, wasn't he?
Never mind.
Besides, Roe v Wade is only half of it. It's that bit about Israel ruling the Middle East before Armageddon and the Second Coming that really drives these nutjobs. Israel just loves that since THEY know there's no such thing as a Second Coming - since Jesus was never crucified - and was a Jew in the first place - so they get to use the US to take over all the oil.
Nice how you can use morons and their beliefs to get what you want. Wish I could figure out how to do that...
Oh, wait, we Transhumans are letting the monkeys develop the tech to create Transhumans - then we trash you.
It's bullshit. Nobody - even a terrorist - encrypts an entire 200GB hard drive. Even the CIA and NSA wouldn't do that. Hell, CIA head Deutch kept 17,000 classified files unencrypted on his home PC - so the Mossad could read them without having any problems, probably.
You encrypt the files you want encrypted and then hide them using steganography. In my case, that would mean searching 250,000 pictures of hot babes, and a few gig of Corrs videos, but that's it.
This is just an excuse to erode civil rights. Period.
It's no accident that the asshole in Australia is running the same game, and - oh, my, guess what - now they have a "terror alert" being hyped up there.
People do seem to learn from George Bush, don't they? Or maybe these assholes all share the same fascist DNA.
Show me a SIP with any of the characteristics listed.
As far as I can see from the quote, this is just vaporware talk. I can't see any difference between this stuff and the original ideas of software modularization, information hiding, coupling, and the rest of the structured programming concepts from the 1970's, let alone OOP. The only distinction is that they appear to be talking about the runtime characteristics, instead of the source code.
They talk about "communicating on a higher channel" - what the hell is that if not decomposition in 1970's speak? The upper levels of the system control the system flow, the lower levels do one thing and one thing only, being called and passed only that data they need to do their job.
I don't see a single thing new there. "Closed address spaces"? Nothing can talk to each other? Sounds the opposite of what a software system needs to me.
To be charitable, perhaps they're referring to the notion of a fixed OS that doesn't change and is so totally sandboxed, even internally, that the introduction of errors is difficult.
So what? This is new? Maybe new to Microsoft, when Allchin has admitted recently that they do nothing but spaghetti code which is why Vista wouldn't ever work until they redesigned their coding methods, but I suspect most OS designers aim for these characteristics. Achieving them and still having an OS that can adapt and change is the problem.
But adapting and changing and getting better is not something Bill cares about - unless it puts money in his pocket.
Yeah, we keep you separate from anybody with a clue. Can't have you getting one.
That's why we want PhDs with a proven track record of publication in top venues. Got forbid you've ever written a program for a real end user that has to do a real job.
And no way we want anybody who knows what the words "antitrust" or "truth" means.
Nah - they'll just run a Virtual Machine on top of Singularity - and run Windows Server VX (Very Expensive) 2008 on top of it.
Which means your system will crash regularly and be slow as molasses - but this situation will be very dependable.
The CIOs will eat it up! After all, they won't have to re-train any employees or buy any new software (well, after upgrading the OS, of course, on a five-year locked-in subcription plan at a fifty-percent increase in rates due to the "dependability" feature, and buying the new Microsoft Office VX (Viciously Expensive) version released at the same time.)
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No, the Sandstorm Enterprises NetIntercept product has been around for the last four years. It's hardly new and hardly something somebody would get an award for just buying (at $20,000, by the way.) The company started with PhoneSweep, a wardialing detector.
It didn't sound to me like they were talking about the Sandstorm Enterprises NetIntercept product, it sounded to me like they were talking about a system devised by the people working for the division. Just a coincidence that it sounds like the Sandstorm product. Why would they give an award to some guys who just went out and bought a commercially available product?
I have not traded anything for any safety.
First of all, I never agreed to any of this except under duress, so I can hardly be referred to as a "trader" in this regard.
Second, I have NOT been made safe by any stretch of the imagination from anything that might possibly be harmful by any government action.
Your comment is simply wrong. I assume what you meant to say is that the state has taken numerous civil liberties away from the citizenry in SUPPOSED exchange for imposing various regulations that are SUPPOSED to protect the citizenry. Nothing of the latter has been demonstrated to be true, and in the vast majority of cases is demonstrably false.
So you comment is still wrong.
"The world is grey". Duh! Talk about pointless quote throwing...
He obviously meant that there IS no such thing as "permanent safety" (and there isn't short of being Transhuman and even then you probably have to worry about interstellar gamma ray bursts). Anybody who thinks the US government can make anybody "safe" from anything is a total idiot. They can't even keep the Prez safe as several Prez's have proven by taking bullets.
And there are no such things as "inessential liberties" since by definition if you are not free to do what you want, you are simply not free. Political freedom is like being pregnant - you either are or you aren't. You either submit to the state in one or more respects, or you don't.
What you are NEVER free from, however, is the consequences of your free actions - which isn't relevant to the discussion because we are discussing political freedom, not physical or social cause and effect.
Seems to me Bush is working to turn the other 60% to follow suit (except those areas flooded out by hurricanes so his cronies can profit from a land grab.)
Why?
The state has been marketing the same shit for thousands of years and it's worked every time.
The name doesn't matter. After all, we're "liberating Iraqis" (from their lives.) We're all for "democracy" (while stealing the election using voting machine fraud.) "We don't torture" (we just hook people up to electrical devices and fry their nuts or let dogs chew on them or just do the ol' beat the shit out of them technigue.)
I mean, "Sandstorm"? Where did they get that one from? Obviously trying to play into the DOD's line of horeshit names for Iraqi military operations. They should try some like "Operation Total Losers", "Operation Nothing Fucking Worked", or "Operation We Got Our Asses Shot Off." "Operation FUBAR" would be a classic.
"Let's make sure no one even thinks anything bad against the government."
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I think that's the aim of Bush's plan to require psychiatric examination of anybody and everybody who might be the least bit "other" than him (excluding Karl Rove, of course, who IS him.)
Ah, here it is: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART
A quote for those too lazy to click on the link:
The president's commission found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.
The commission also recommended "Linkage [of screening] with treatment and supports" including "state-of-the-art treatments" using "specific medications for specific conditions." The commission commended the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP) as a "model" medication treatment plan that "illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes..."
But the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, sparked off controversy when Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plan in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in the medication algorithm (15 May, p1153). He was sacked this week for speaking to the BMJ and the New York Times.
"any technology that is largely used for benign purposes"
Right - and your Bush-loving, neocon asshole fucking bias is obvious from your assumption that ANY technology developed by the fucking government - the one that lied us into Iraq and is currently lying us into Syria and Iran - for purposes of SPYING will be "largely used for benign purposes."
Which makes you a fucking moron - not to mention a gutless unpatriotic state-worshipping wimp.
Have a nice day, twit.
In school, you get sent to the office for this sort of thing.
Of course, the guy was a fool to use the word "Windows" in his product name, since sooner or later Bill would try to fuck him over for doing so.
The company that makes Windex had better watch out. Bill may want that name to brand his Ajax Web products.
Hmmm, I wonder if the Ajax (cleanser) people can sue over trademark infringement.
Repeat after me: NOTHING a Microsoft employee who is authorized to talk to the media says is ANYTHING but a LIE!
These guys make Scooter Libby look like the soul of honesty.
Pointless to even discuss anything they say as if it had meaning. There's no more meaning to a Microsoft statement than one from George "We don't torture" Bush.
No, you got none of it right, mostly because you don't have the foggiest clue what you're talking about.
a cts.html/ is a link to The University of North Carolina at Charlotte which outlines the basic timeline of the Scrolls which includes the following remarks:
If you haven't read the history of the discovery of the Scrolls, nor read any of the translations, obviously you are clueless, right? Nowhere did I say any of these scrolls are fakes, in any event.
There's absolutely nothing secret about them NOW, since as I so carefully pointed out, they were fully exposed to the academic community as a result of photographs released by a member of the Bechtel family. BEFORE THAT, the scrolls were only examined by a select group of Catholic priests in Israel.
Here http://www.religiousstudies.uncc.edu/jdtabor/dssf
8) The bulk of the scrolls were in Jordanian control and were placed with a team of Christian (mostly Catholic--no Jewish) scholars who over the next four decades published eight volumes of material. The team was left intact by the Israelis after the Six Day War (1967). The publication schedule was constantly delayed and many outsiders found the official team to be arrogant and unyielding. The team was expanded in the 1980's and was much more broadly based, finally including Jewish scholars and a more open approach to sharing materials.
9) As much as 40% of the Scrolls, mostly fragments from Cave 4, remained unpublished and unreleased (photos), until pressure mounted in the 1980's. A breakthrough occurred in the Fall, 1991: the photos were published by the Biblical Archaeological Society in a non-official edition; a computer reconstruction, based on a concordance, was announced; the Huntington library pledged to open their microfilm files of all the scroll photographs.
Wikipedia also has a nice overview.
Read "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception" by Baigent and Leigh for the full story - especially the direct anti-Semitic quotes from the Catholic priests involved in the study.
Why would I reduce my threshold to YOUR level, troll?
No surprise that the average Jew - especially those outside of Israel - is as ignorant of their own religion as the average Christian. Very few people read religious archaeology journals or even the various popular treatises about the discoveries of the last century or even the known history of their own religion.
Most Jews have probably never read even any quotes from the Zionist literature, either, just as most Christians have never read any quotes from Catholic priests and Popes going back centuries concerning the Jews.
All of the Catholic priests charged with studying the Dead Sea Scrolls (at an institute in Israel, no less) were hardcore anti-Semites, for instance. One of them even absconded with a critical fragment of the documents and has never been found since. The Scrolls are considered the archaeological scandal of the Twentieth Century, since their import was concealed by the Catholics for forty years until photos of them were leaked by a Bechtel relative (Bechtel was financing the institute studying them, apparently), allowing other academics to access them. The one secular researcher was kicked off the team back in the Fifties when he realized their import.
And how many SERVER administrators give a shit whether it's KDE or GNOME on their SERVERS?
Your post is irrelevant to the discussion. We're not talking about whether KDE or GNOME is better than the Windows desktop, we're talking about which is preferred by existing Linux users and therefore likely to preferred by NEW Linux users.
Here's a fact (well, they call it a fact, anyway, how do I know?): the PDF magazine Tux says their readers prefer KDE three to one over GNOME.
Take it for what it's worth.
I personally find GNOME somewhat ugly, but then I'm used to KDE since every distro since Red Hat 7.0 I've ever used I've selected KDE as the desktop.
I don't mind having two desktops to choose from, but if this religious war bullshit doesn't stop, they either need to merge or one of them needs to go away or a third desktop needs to eclipse them because the arguments over implementation minutae are boring.
The real question is how far can the big boys get when there is nearly a three-to-one user preference for KDE?
According to Tux, almost all their readers are backing KDE.
Sounds like self-destructive for Novell to switch to GNOME to me. I know they are including the libraries and all and you can still switch to KDE if you want, but defaulting to GNOME when most people like KDE is a bit odd.
Naah...They didn't put Satan in the White House - just his son...
Oh, wait, his father was President earlier, wasn't he?
Never mind.
Besides, Roe v Wade is only half of it. It's that bit about Israel ruling the Middle East before Armageddon and the Second Coming that really drives these nutjobs. Israel just loves that since THEY know there's no such thing as a Second Coming - since Jesus was never crucified - and was a Jew in the first place - so they get to use the US to take over all the oil.
Nice how you can use morons and their beliefs to get what you want. Wish I could figure out how to do that...
Oh, wait, we Transhumans are letting the monkeys develop the tech to create Transhumans - then we trash you.
Never mind.
It's bullshit. Nobody - even a terrorist - encrypts an entire 200GB hard drive. Even the CIA and NSA wouldn't do that. Hell, CIA head Deutch kept 17,000 classified files unencrypted on his home PC - so the Mossad could read them without having any problems, probably.
You encrypt the files you want encrypted and then hide them using steganography. In my case, that would mean searching 250,000 pictures of hot babes, and a few gig of Corrs videos, but that's it.
This is just an excuse to erode civil rights. Period.
It's no accident that the asshole in Australia is running the same game, and - oh, my, guess what - now they have a "terror alert" being hyped up there.
People do seem to learn from George Bush, don't they? Or maybe these assholes all share the same fascist DNA.
Gee, when I was in Federal prison, they didn't let you use the Internet.
Have things changed there?
Are they still using stainless steel toilets which are harder to break when you want to flood your cell?
"The Chief Executive (as the patent office is Executive Branch) needs to seriously clean house."
Before he gets to the Patent Office, he needs to deal with Karl...not to mention himself.
Show me a SIP with any of the characteristics listed.
As far as I can see from the quote, this is just vaporware talk. I can't see any difference between this stuff and the original ideas of software modularization, information hiding, coupling, and the rest of the structured programming concepts from the 1970's, let alone OOP. The only distinction is that they appear to be talking about the runtime characteristics, instead of the source code.
They talk about "communicating on a higher channel" - what the hell is that if not decomposition in 1970's speak? The upper levels of the system control the system flow, the lower levels do one thing and one thing only, being called and passed only that data they need to do their job.
I don't see a single thing new there. "Closed address spaces"? Nothing can talk to each other? Sounds the opposite of what a software system needs to me.
To be charitable, perhaps they're referring to the notion of a fixed OS that doesn't change and is so totally sandboxed, even internally, that the introduction of errors is difficult.
So what? This is new? Maybe new to Microsoft, when Allchin has admitted recently that they do nothing but spaghetti code which is why Vista wouldn't ever work until they redesigned their coding methods, but I suspect most OS designers aim for these characteristics. Achieving them and still having an OS that can adapt and change is the problem.
But adapting and changing and getting better is not something Bill cares about - unless it puts money in his pocket.
I'd be more interested in what would happen if anybody at Microsoft got intelligent in the first place.
Probably they'd all quit leaving Bill, Steve and Melinda trying to pack CDs into boxes.
"Microsoft...supports workforce diversity."
Yeah, we keep you separate from anybody with a clue. Can't have you getting one.
That's why we want PhDs with a proven track record of publication in top venues. Got forbid you've ever written a program for a real end user that has to do a real job.
And no way we want anybody who knows what the words "antitrust" or "truth" means.
Microsoft has been claiming system (and user financial) resources since their first OS.
Oh, wait, you said "re-claiming"...
That's okay, Microsoft needs to re-claim system resources after the monopoly conviction.
Nah - they'll just run a Virtual Machine on top of Singularity - and run Windows Server VX (Very Expensive) 2008 on top of it.
Which means your system will crash regularly and be slow as molasses - but this situation will be very dependable.
The CIOs will eat it up! After all, they won't have to re-train any employees or buy any new software (well, after upgrading the OS, of course, on a five-year locked-in subcription plan at a fifty-percent increase in rates due to the "dependability" feature, and buying the new Microsoft Office VX (Viciously Expensive) version released at the same time.)
This is a guaranteed winner for Bill!