I said: "And what besides pointing you to the tcp/ip RFC did I get wrong"
You Said: "Confusing HTTP with TCP."
I replied: "http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1180.html"
You replied: "You've posted this before. Have you read it?"
And you expect people to NOT think you are dimwitted.
No, it's all there. Look at your first reply to my statement that you can see the data flowing across the network interface, and then when I tried to tell you that tcpdump can be used to demonstrate this. I just did, for a quiet chuckle. Having to walk you through it all step-by-painful-step is not something I'm going to forget in a hurry.
You are a fucking liar. I first mentioned tcpdump and you caught on 2 posts later after mumbling some crap about how you have mastered your ehternet interface. You probably never used tcpdump or snort until I mentioned them.
I already refuted this elsewhere. Security through obscurity is no good! Why don't you just admit you can only obfuscate it from people who don't really care?
Errr, retard, com objects are compiled. Oh let me guess, you are going to add in disassembling software into the regiment of tools needed to view HTML source. All security is through obfuscatory, if you do not understand that, get the hell out of the computing profession. Encryption, passwords, door locks etc... they decrease the obviousness of entry or access.
I said you must give me the public key *before* I can decrypt your page for viewing.
Retard, activex objects are compiled so it would kinda make sence to compile the key intot he com object
Well, it hasn't happened yet, except in you mind, where you can decrypt cipher text without a key, or effectively "hide" the key in a component from everyone.
It's also important to remember that your original two "hiding" schemes are failures. Encryption is better though, at least you're starting to think about it!
Go get yourself a winbox by next Sunday. I will post a webpage next Sunday and give you 3 days to pull the HTML source. Your discussion is boring me and you obviously lack ther intellectual capacity to learn.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1180.html
Do you have any further retarded comments or lies to spew.
I never said any of the things which you claimed I said. Is it that you have to resort to telling lies to try and make a point.
I said YOU cannot do it. Literacy is obviously
not your strong point. Prove you can do what you say you can.
Again, we will go back to encryption. And please never repeat the some ass retarded comment as you said before about you having the "master key." Yes, I know you said a public key, but obviously you think a public key is a "master key" which can deencrypt any encryption. Perhaps you should put away your Cap'n Crunch secret decoder ring and get a clue.
Or tell me how you can magically get the public key to the browser without my seeing it as well...
Encapsulated in a fucking com object you stupid fucking retard. Do you need me to teach you hwo to tie your shoes.
Would you like to continue your quest in proving that you are nothing more than a pathetic poser.
The point I was making was that the banks could save a fortune by ridding themselves of useless VP's and their secretaries. The cost of a windows workstation is minimal compared to the $100k + salary of a useless Bank VP and the $30k for his secretary.
How could you ever live without freecell and minesweeper and solitaire? And this bank, it is going to have hundreds of bored Vice Presidents who have nothing to do if they take away freecell and minesweeper and solitaire. And what about the poor secretaries, what will they do while the voicemail system is answering all the phones if they cannot play minesweeper and freecell and solitaire.
Actually, this is the first time you've been right! It had to happen eventually I guess.
Before you continue, you really might try installing windows on a computer and learning a bit about IE specific features. if you wish to keep arguing about things based upon your own ignorance of the topic, don't let me stop you, I like laughing at you. But if you prefer to actually learn and increase your knowledge,
And what besides pointing you to the tcp/ip RFC did I get wrong. What besides correctly referencing the CSS1 spec for the !important rule which overrides client styles. There is no UA which is fully CSS2 compliant which means that any implementation of CSS2 features is a broken UA unless all CSS2 features are implemented. So if your CSS1 compliant UA is not obeying the CSS1 rules for !important, then your UA is not even CSS1 compliant and is not "standards compliant." I have already proven and fully explained why the HTML source can be hidden. When you finally understand there is no "master public key" for encryption and actually get a clue about how IE renders HTML dynamically, then you will understand. Knowledge is power and until you achieve knowledge, you have no power. Perhaps you can try to obtain the knowledge by doing and using the tools of the trade.
If you were actually an intelligent person, you would take the methods discussed and see if you can hide the HTML source from yourself. Then you would instantly know why it is possible. Most intelligent people don't argue until they know the facts, you argue based upon limited knowledge and what your believe.
Read and learn.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/browser/overview/overview.asp
Embed a browser in a browser
Set oWB= CreateObject("InternetExplorer.application")
Are you getting a clue yet. There are many different ways that the html source can made completely and totally hidden. Once you get past your skript kiddie mentality and learn how to program in windows and how to program within the iexplorer environment, you will get a clue.
Let me give you another example. I can embed a browsercontrol in a custome activex control in a webpage in the control and send the html file as encrypted binary data which can only be viewed and decrypted in that control. Memory dumps do not work unless you set the sourcePreservation bit because MSHTML renders what it thinks you should have written. But please, continue to argue about a topic you have no clue about. I really do not mind if you keep making an ass of yourself, it is very humourous. Continue to live in your own little ignorant and uniformed world pretending to be an IT professional.
LOL. Chrysler went after some guy that ran www.hardcorejeep.com. He had a few pictures of girls in bikinis by the jeeps and a bunch of terch articles and forums. Chrysler called it "pornography" and that it tarnished jepps reputation. shhh, don't tell Chrysler that there are thousands of Jeeps at the beach with girls in bikinis hanging all over them:-)
No, I'm not interested in what is a standards organization or not. To be a standard of any kind, it must be published somewhere. The content of a flash "executable" that you download is not. Therefore it is not a standard.
There is no rule that says that a standard has to be open or that anything has to be published. Soemthing is a standard because it is made so by a bona fide standards agency or by ubiquity.
But since it makes you happy to think such things and I love making you look like a retard flash file format
You miss the point, none of those companies are using the term as a generic term. They are using them to ride the coattails of Microsoft's successes. When Windows Commander has a Linux and Mac version out, they might have a leg to stand on, but as it is now (until they changed the name) all they were looking to do is leech off of Microsoft.
And why wouldn't be cool for X, Apple, IBM and Xerox to sue the deceptive marketing of a crap company that stole everything outta their interfaces to create Windows???
As an ex-system programmer I very well know that lots of that damn kernel crap inside Windows were purely and simply OS/2 core components...
Perhaps you should contact IBM's lawyers and let them know. Oh wait, OS/2 was a joint project between Microsoft and IBM created AFTER windows 1 was developed. It is not uncommon for a company to develop multiple similiar projects in tandem
Windows 1 predates OS/2 1 and it wans't until 1994 that IBM made a push for OS/2. Like many others, they were late to the party and lost.
If I want to call a product crap, I will call it crap and IMHO Windows Commander is crap. I wouldn't use it at home and I wouldn't allow it on my network in the office.
Currently getting ~200 spam every day, and now often they attach images so they are 100k+. Yay Internet!
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how to block 99.99% of this crap.
1. Block any chinese domain.
2. Filter the keywords: sex, viagra, printer toner, extend, penis, enlargement, vitamin, from the subject line and block them.
3. Block anything with no subject or no sender.
4. Use software like http://www.mailwasher.net/ to manage your email.
It isn't the use of the word windows which is pissing off Microsoft, there is nothing they can do about that. It is the deceptive marketing of crap companies trying to legitimize themselves by insinuating they are "approved" by Microsoft for the Windows operating system. Even worse is the fact that these crap software companies are putting out crap products which adversely impact a computers performance and it is Microsoft who bears the burden of support for those customers as well as having their brand tarnished.
Try and make a steering wheel cover and call it Porsche Commander and claim that it makes you drive your Porshe better, Porshe would sue your balls off.
By nature of it's acceptance, flash has become a standard
Macromedia. Cmon, please argue this, please tell me Macromedia does not create standards because they are not a bona fide standards organization... please do it, please, please, please... Aww, fuck it. The w3c is also NOT a standards organization, if you claim that flash is not a standard by nature of it's ubiquity, then neither is (X)HTML, XML, CSS or any webstandard outside of ISO HTML 4.0 and ECMAscript.
Lookie and watch the little wannabee code monkey try and crawl it's way out of this. LOL.
You don't get it do you. WSH + COM gives you the full power of a half dozen scripting languages plus the full power of ANY compiled programming language. Perl is not even in the same ballpark.
You do not install Perl to use Perl on a winbox, yopu install PerlScript http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Perl/Products/Act ivePerl/Components/Windows/PerlScript.html
Obviously you do not do ANY crossplatform programming because you know nothign about the most prevelant platform on the planet.
Design of HTML - I win.
HTML hiding - I win.
CSS "!important" - I win.
What exactly did you win in you pathetic little mind?
1. What have you proven about the design of html?
2. You still have not explained how you can tcpdump an encrypted HTML file and deencrypt it, not have you proven you can even use tcpdump to recreate an HTML file.
3. CSS !important rule in a CSS class will override any !important rule you have for the parent element. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? The only way for you to override that is to override every class in the every style sheet and if someone wanted you, they could give random classnames and make it impossible for you to override.
People like you are so amusing, you have less than a basic understanding of a topic but pretend you have a clue. All it does is show how moronic you are.
Now where is that html file you recreated from atcpdump file?
With WSH you can use every and any com object ever created, plus have complete access to the win32 api's, plus you can write your own com objects. why don't you learn about a topic before you discuss it.
Not to mention you can use VBScript, Javascript, Perl... gasp..... Python, TCL and many more programming languages with WSH.
You claim you can use tcpdump to recreate an html file, but are still unable to produce proof. if it is so trivial, they why can't you do it?
Go ahead and do it and if you can I will write server and client activex componants which encrypt/deencrypt the source xml and xslt files before they are transformed, then what do you have, nothing but a tcpdump of gibberish which can only be viewed using my clientside componant
No it is not wrong. The salary surveys are extremely accurate. Code-monkeys like yourself always get paid less than an admin on a comparable experience level. A good admin is irreplaceable, a code-monkey will eventually lose his/her job to someone who gets paid less and less.
You should also start being nice to your admins, you wouldn't want your files to suddenly become corrupted would you.
Ohhh, you sure did slap me. Not. Try using CSS and see how far your generic elements get you when an author uses !important on a class or id. Duh. I just love it when rookies like youself read something and think you have a clue.
yeah, right, I am just going to tell everyone where I work. You are beyond fucking retarded. My personal work is on the web and never hidden. iSpelunker is being rewritten, e-tards which highlights stupid peopel like you is also being worked on. Unlike you, I have a job and I do freelance work which means time is limited.
Yes, the !important rule is also in the CSS2 spec, you really taught me soemthing there. NOT!!!!
Perhaps you should take web authoring 101 and you will find out that the author can choose to not deliver the content to whomever they wish and can create conditions which force you to use their style sheet.
I wonder why you did not reply to the part about the dynamcally generated html and dynamic assignment of styles. Must be because you are so damn clueless.
Amazing how retards like you keep wondering why authors simply ignore Moz and Opera. it isn't the browser, we just do not like the jackasses using them.
Have fun writing style sheets which override every style class on every website.
Everything to recreate it is here http://www.allmyfaqs.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Bill_Plat t
If you understand webdevelopment, then you should easily understand why it can be done. IE does not show the source code, you can only access it via script and with a broken DOM, you cannot access it
You have probably never written a line of any stabel code in your life.
According to Yahoo, a programmer 1 makes 45k and a web designer 1 makes 42k and a sysadmin makes 58k. You must hate being a programmer and being on the bottom of the pay scale. are you afraid of losign your job to some Indian IT firm. LOL
HTML != WWW.
hmm, wonder where that journal thread went off into security.
If you do not know how to encrypt a html file, then you should not be arguing. Perhaps one day you will be enlightened and actually use IE so that you can understand the way dynamic content is rendered in that browser. Then you might finally get a clue as to why html source can be hidden.
Same functionality as Perl? You *fucking* ignorant fool. That's the stupidest thing I've heard since "HTML source can be hidden".
You stupid ignorant jackass. Do you even know what WSH is, do you know what COM is. Ever program using them. With WSH and COM, you have total access to the complete win32 API as well as every control on the system. anythign you can do with perl on a *nix box, you can do with WSH and CoM on a win box.
Besides that, how then will I port my code to other OSes? Ah, I forgot, since you don't *really* work in computing, you don't have that kind of problem.
If you plan on writing code to use on many platforms, try learning a real programming language and not some scripting language.
I need the functionality, but my requirements are slightly above that of a Javascript coding "web developer".
Like perl is any more complex than javascript. You cannot be that retarded can you.
My mistake, since I don't use IE.
Perhaps you migth try and act a little more intelligent instead of arguing about things you have no clue about.
No, just a professional who needs optimal tools. Which you are not, as you only work at some real estate office being the onsite computing monkey. Are there some backup tapes that need changing? Some viruses that need erasing. Hop to it, boy!
I have seen whining little code-monkeys like yourself. Losers who think the editor will help them write better code. if you had any real skill or talent, the editor would not matter.
I'll bet that the graphic artist makes more money than a worn out COBOL code monkey like yourself.
It is the nature of the web that it *will* look different. It was designed that way, and that's the way it is. Deal with it.
It is NOT the nature of the web nor was it designed that way. The WWW was intended to be a way to transfer information while maintaining the integrity of that information. Information is not plain ascii text, but also color, fonts, shapes, images and sound. Any multimedia information must retain it's integrity otherwise information is lost.
How are you going to handle CSS, where I can override your settings any way that I like? I'll bet you use little transparent images to try to "force" pages to look the same. Sigh.
Ever hear of the CSS1 !important rule. Geesh you are an idiot. Ever hear of scripting, generate the document from script and the style sheet from script and your overides are meaningless, you either view the document as the author intended or you view nothing. With CSSP, you get pixel perfect control of the layout, it is called position:absolute;
No, Flash is not a valid mechanism for web content. It is also a security hazard. I don't run any downloaded executable content. And yes, I'm aware that Flash *should* pose no threat, but I see zero evidence that the plug-in itself is secure.
By nature of it's acceptance, flash has become a standard. You haven't seen evidence that the flash plugin is secure because you haven't looked. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/flash/whitepap ers/security.pdf
It's a hell of a lot more secure than most of the other software on your system, and that includes the Linux kernel..
I didn't say Flash itself was lame, just that web sites done *only* in Flash are, as this sort of thing will inevitably fragment the web into little incompatible islands of content. The web was invented to fix *exactly* this (if you were even *aware* of a time before the web) - and we'll end up back there again if we are not careful and don't *think* about what we do.
Flash exists because the W3C failed to deliver on SVG, HTML+Time and other important technologies which are needed to advance the web to take full advantage of it's potential.
Because, like you, they don't actually know what they are doing.
So you know more about entertainment than a multibillion dollar world leader in entertainment. Your kookery knows no bounds.
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Try, http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ or ftp://ftp.xig.com/pub/3Ddemos/extras/README.xvamp
I said: "And what besides pointing you to the tcp/ip RFC did I get wrong"
You Said: "Confusing HTTP with TCP."
I replied: "http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1180.html"
You replied: "You've posted this before. Have you read it?"
And you expect people to NOT think you are dimwitted.
No, it's all there. Look at your first reply to my statement that you can see the data flowing across the network interface, and then when I tried to tell you that tcpdump can be used to demonstrate this. I just did, for a quiet chuckle. Having to walk you through it all step-by-painful-step is not something I'm going to forget in a hurry.
You are a fucking liar. I first mentioned tcpdump and you caught on 2 posts later after mumbling some crap about how you have mastered your ehternet interface. You probably never used tcpdump or snort until I mentioned them.
I already refuted this elsewhere. Security through obscurity is no good! Why don't you just admit you can only obfuscate it from people who don't really care?
Errr, retard, com objects are compiled. Oh let me guess, you are going to add in disassembling software into the regiment of tools needed to view HTML source. All security is through obfuscatory, if you do not understand that, get the hell out of the computing profession. Encryption, passwords, door locks etc... they decrease the obviousness of entry or access.
I said you must give me the public key *before* I can decrypt your page for viewing.
Retard, activex objects are compiled so it would kinda make sence to compile the key intot he com object
Well, it hasn't happened yet, except in you mind, where you can decrypt cipher text without a key, or effectively "hide" the key in a component from everyone.
It's also important to remember that your original two "hiding" schemes are failures. Encryption is better though, at least you're starting to think about it!
Go get yourself a winbox by next Sunday. I will post a webpage next Sunday and give you 3 days to pull the HTML source. Your discussion is boring me and you obviously lack ther intellectual capacity to learn.
Do you have any further retarded comments or lies to spew.
I never said any of the things which you claimed I said. Is it that you have to resort to telling lies to try and make a point.
I said YOU cannot do it. Literacy is obviously not your strong point. Prove you can do what you say you can.
Again, we will go back to encryption. And please never repeat the some ass retarded comment as you said before about you having the "master key." Yes, I know you said a public key, but obviously you think a public key is a "master key" which can deencrypt any encryption. Perhaps you should put away your Cap'n Crunch secret decoder ring and get a clue.
Or tell me how you can magically get the public key to the browser without my seeing it as well
Encapsulated in a fucking com object you stupid fucking retard. Do you need me to teach you hwo to tie your shoes.
Would you like to continue your quest in proving that you are nothing more than a pathetic poser.
The point I was making was that the banks could save a fortune by ridding themselves of useless VP's and their secretaries. The cost of a windows workstation is minimal compared to the $100k + salary of a useless Bank VP and the $30k for his secretary.
How could you ever live without freecell and minesweeper and solitaire? And this bank, it is going to have hundreds of bored Vice Presidents who have nothing to do if they take away freecell and minesweeper and solitaire. And what about the poor secretaries, what will they do while the voicemail system is answering all the phones if they cannot play minesweeper and freecell and solitaire.
Okay, I misunderstood what you meant.
Before you continue, you really might try installing windows on a computer and learning a bit about IE specific features. if you wish to keep arguing about things based upon your own ignorance of the topic, don't let me stop you, I like laughing at you. But if you prefer to actually learn and increase your knowledge,
And what besides pointing you to the tcp/ip RFC did I get wrong. What besides correctly referencing the CSS1 spec for the !important rule which overrides client styles. There is no UA which is fully CSS2 compliant which means that any implementation of CSS2 features is a broken UA unless all CSS2 features are implemented. So if your CSS1 compliant UA is not obeying the CSS1 rules for !important, then your UA is not even CSS1 compliant and is not "standards compliant." I have already proven and fully explained why the HTML source can be hidden. When you finally understand there is no "master public key" for encryption and actually get a clue about how IE renders HTML dynamically, then you will understand. Knowledge is power and until you achieve knowledge, you have no power. Perhaps you can try to obtain the knowledge by doing and using the tools of the trade.
If you were actually an intelligent person, you would take the methods discussed and see if you can hide the HTML source from yourself. Then you would instantly know why it is possible. Most intelligent people don't argue until they know the facts, you argue based upon limited knowledge and what your believe.
Read and learn.= /workshop/browser/overview/overview.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url
Embed a browser in a browser
Are you getting a clue yet. There are many different ways that the html source can made completely and totally hidden. Once you get past your skript kiddie mentality and learn how to program in windows and how to program within the iexplorer environment, you will get a clue.
Let me give you another example. I can embed a browsercontrol in a custome activex control in a webpage in the control and send the html file as encrypted binary data which can only be viewed and decrypted in that control. Memory dumps do not work unless you set the sourcePreservation bit because MSHTML renders what it thinks you should have written. But please, continue to argue about a topic you have no clue about. I really do not mind if you keep making an ass of yourself, it is very humourous. Continue to live in your own little ignorant and uniformed world pretending to be an IT professional.
LOL. Chrysler went after some guy that ran www.hardcorejeep.com. He had a few pictures of girls in bikinis by the jeeps and a bunch of terch articles and forums. Chrysler called it "pornography" and that it tarnished jepps reputation. shhh, don't tell Chrysler that there are thousands of Jeeps at the beach with girls in bikinis hanging all over them :-)
There is no rule that says that a standard has to be open or that anything has to be published. Soemthing is a standard because it is made so by a bona fide standards agency or by ubiquity.
But since it makes you happy to think such things and I love making you look like a retard flash file format
You miss the point, none of those companies are using the term as a generic term. They are using them to ride the coattails of Microsoft's successes. When Windows Commander has a Linux and Mac version out, they might have a leg to stand on, but as it is now (until they changed the name) all they were looking to do is leech off of Microsoft.
Poor Apple, it isn't like they ever stole a GUI.
As an ex-system programmer I very well know that lots of that damn kernel crap inside Windows were purely and simply OS/2 core components...
Perhaps you should contact IBM's lawyers and let them know. Oh wait, OS/2 was a joint project between Microsoft and IBM created AFTER windows 1 was developed. It is not uncommon for a company to develop multiple similiar projects in tandem
Windows 1 predates OS/2 1 and it wans't until 1994 that IBM made a push for OS/2. Like many others, they were late to the party and lost.
If I want to call a product crap, I will call it crap and IMHO Windows Commander is crap. I wouldn't use it at home and I wouldn't allow it on my network in the office.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how to block 99.99% of this crap.
1. Block any chinese domain.
2. Filter the keywords: sex, viagra, printer toner, extend, penis, enlargement, vitamin, from the subject line and block them.
3. Block anything with no subject or no sender.
4. Use software like http://www.mailwasher.net/ to manage your email.
Try and make a steering wheel cover and call it Porsche Commander and claim that it makes you drive your Porshe better, Porshe would sue your balls off.
Macromedia. Cmon, please argue this, please tell me Macromedia does not create standards because they are not a bona fide standards organization... please do it, please, please, please... Aww, fuck it. The w3c is also NOT a standards organization, if you claim that flash is not a standard by nature of it's ubiquity, then neither is (X)HTML, XML, CSS or any webstandard outside of ISO HTML 4.0 and ECMAscript.
Lookie and watch the little wannabee code monkey try and crawl it's way out of this. LOL.
You do not install Perl to use Perl on a winbox, yopu install PerlScript http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Perl/Products/Act ivePerl/Components/Windows/PerlScript.html
Obviously you do not do ANY crossplatform programming because you know nothign about the most prevelant platform on the planet.
Design of HTML - I win.
HTML hiding - I win.
CSS "!important" - I win.
What exactly did you win in you pathetic little mind?
1. What have you proven about the design of html? 2. You still have not explained how you can tcpdump an encrypted HTML file and deencrypt it, not have you proven you can even use tcpdump to recreate an HTML file. 3. CSS !important rule in a CSS class will override any !important rule you have for the parent element. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? The only way for you to override that is to override every class in the every style sheet and if someone wanted you, they could give random classnames and make it impossible for you to override.
People like you are so amusing, you have less than a basic understanding of a topic but pretend you have a clue. All it does is show how moronic you are.
Now where is that html file you recreated from atcpdump file?
Not to mention you can use VBScript, Javascript, Perl... gasp..... Python, TCL and many more programming languages with WSH.
People do not get much dumber than you.
Try troll you moron.
Go ahead and do it and if you can I will write server and client activex componants which encrypt/deencrypt the source xml and xslt files before they are transformed, then what do you have, nothing but a tcpdump of gibberish which can only be viewed using my clientside componant
You cannot be this stupid can you.
You should also start being nice to your admins, you wouldn't want your files to suddenly become corrupted would you.
yeah, right, I am just going to tell everyone where I work. You are beyond fucking retarded. My personal work is on the web and never hidden. iSpelunker is being rewritten, e-tards which highlights stupid peopel like you is also being worked on. Unlike you, I have a job and I do freelance work which means time is limited.
Yes, the !important rule is also in the CSS2 spec, you really taught me soemthing there. NOT!!!!
Perhaps you should take web authoring 101 and you will find out that the author can choose to not deliver the content to whomever they wish and can create conditions which force you to use their style sheet.
I wonder why you did not reply to the part about the dynamcally generated html and dynamic assignment of styles. Must be because you are so damn clueless.
Amazing how retards like you keep wondering why authors simply ignore Moz and Opera. it isn't the browser, we just do not like the jackasses using them.
Have fun writing style sheets which override every style class on every website.
If you understand webdevelopment, then you should easily understand why it can be done. IE does not show the source code, you can only access it via script and with a broken DOM, you cannot access it
According to Yahoo, a programmer 1 makes 45k and a web designer 1 makes 42k and a sysadmin makes 58k. You must hate being a programmer and being on the bottom of the pay scale. are you afraid of losign your job to some Indian IT firm. LOL
HTML != WWW.
hmm, wonder where that journal thread went off into security.
If you do not know how to encrypt a html file, then you should not be arguing. Perhaps one day you will be enlightened and actually use IE so that you can understand the way dynamic content is rendered in that browser. Then you might finally get a clue as to why html source can be hidden.
or worse, like the dpt kook who is not a webdeveloper but knows everything about how everyone else should develop.
You stupid ignorant jackass. Do you even know what WSH is, do you know what COM is. Ever program using them. With WSH and COM, you have total access to the complete win32 API as well as every control on the system. anythign you can do with perl on a *nix box, you can do with WSH and CoM on a win box.
Besides that, how then will I port my code to other OSes? Ah, I forgot, since you don't *really* work in computing, you don't have that kind of problem.
If you plan on writing code to use on many platforms, try learning a real programming language and not some scripting language.
I need the functionality, but my requirements are slightly above that of a Javascript coding "web developer".
Like perl is any more complex than javascript. You cannot be that retarded can you.
My mistake, since I don't use IE.
Perhaps you migth try and act a little more intelligent instead of arguing about things you have no clue about. No, just a professional who needs optimal tools. Which you are not, as you only work at some real estate office being the onsite computing monkey. Are there some backup tapes that need changing? Some viruses that need erasing. Hop to it, boy!
I have seen whining little code-monkeys like yourself. Losers who think the editor will help them write better code. if you had any real skill or talent, the editor would not matter.
I'll bet that the graphic artist makes more money than a worn out COBOL code monkey like yourself.
It is the nature of the web that it *will* look different. It was designed that way, and that's the way it is. Deal with it.
It is NOT the nature of the web nor was it designed that way. The WWW was intended to be a way to transfer information while maintaining the integrity of that information. Information is not plain ascii text, but also color, fonts, shapes, images and sound. Any multimedia information must retain it's integrity otherwise information is lost.
How are you going to handle CSS, where I can override your settings any way that I like? I'll bet you use little transparent images to try to "force" pages to look the same. Sigh.
Ever hear of the CSS1 !important rule. Geesh you are an idiot. Ever hear of scripting, generate the document from script and the style sheet from script and your overides are meaningless, you either view the document as the author intended or you view nothing. With CSSP, you get pixel perfect control of the layout, it is called position:absolute;
No, Flash is not a valid mechanism for web content. It is also a security hazard. I don't run any downloaded executable content. And yes, I'm aware that Flash *should* pose no threat, but I see zero evidence that the plug-in itself is secure.
By nature of it's acceptance, flash has become a standard. You haven't seen evidence that the flash plugin is secure because you haven't looked. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/flash/whitepap ers/security.pdf
It's a hell of a lot more secure than most of the other software on your system, and that includes the Linux kernel..
I didn't say Flash itself was lame, just that web sites done *only* in Flash are, as this sort of thing will inevitably fragment the web into little incompatible islands of content. The web was invented to fix *exactly* this (if you were even *aware* of a time before the web) - and we'll end up back there again if we are not careful and don't *think* about what we do.
Flash exists because the W3C failed to deliver on SVG, HTML+Time and other important technologies which are needed to advance the web to take full advantage of it's potential.
Because, like you, they don't actually know what they are doing.
So you know more about entertainment than a multibillion dollar world leader in entertainment. Your kookery knows no bounds.