Guns are the problem. You can be a mentally ill person and run around waving a knife, and you might even kill one or two people. But everyone else will run from you.
There are nuts all over the don't go around shooting up classrooms and theaters.
Do you know why? Because they DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE TOOL.
The tool (gun) is the clear problem here. It is staring us in the face.
It is becoming less violent in many ways, but not with regards to these massacres. In fact the number of gun massacres (with 4 or more people killed at once) in the US has remained pretty steady over the past 20 years, at about 4 a year. Oddly enough, that was about the time the lessening of gun restrictions on assault rifles started taking place
And yet countries that ban ownership of assault rifles and handguns by the average person don't have these crimes. They just don't.
We need to be MORE like these countries, not less. We need to ban all assault rifles, and severely restrict the ownership of handguns. One per person, that's it, no more.
There are mentally ill people all over the world. They don't go around shooting up classrooms and theaters.
The GUN is the problem.
Recently a mentally ill man in china went on a knife rampage. He sliced 19 people in a school. No one died. Horrible crime. But no one died (at least from what I read)
If he had had a gun, there would have been 19 dead or more. The GUN is the problem.
Why, you destroy them. You offer people money to bring in their guns so that they may be destroyed. You ban the sale of new assault rifles. it will take time, but the other option is too terrible to imagine...an ever increasing supply of guns.
Id rather live in a world where I can run from a knife or a beating than deal with guns.
Why don't you ask the British which they prefer? They have this huge wave of thuggery supposedly. DO you think the British would like to introduce guns into that mix?
How many firearms are in Jamaica are unlicensed? Do you think the huge crime rate there has anything to do with the huge amount of smuggling of UNLICENSED firearms that come from the us? The hilarious thing is, most of those unlicensed smuggled guns that are seized are traced to..guess where...Florida.
"Jamaica and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives find most of the seized weapons come from three Florida counties — Orange, Dade and Broward — all with large Jamaican populations, according to Shields."
"By the same token, NO CARS = NO ACCIDENTAL CAR DEATHS or NO ALCOHOL = NO DRUNK DRIVERS"
These statements are correct. If there were no cars, you'd have no accidental car deaths.
But I'm not saying we should get rid of guns completely. I'm pointing out that in places where there are less guns, you tend to have less gun violence. Therefore, to get less gun violence, we should reduce the amount of guns available or make them more difficult to get. pretty basic.
"Reality: Crime, in general, is higher in the US than many other countries. Obviously gun-related crime will be higher as well."
But not if guns are made more difficult to get. The idea that if there were less guns made available, due to heavy regulations and outright bannings of assualt rifes, would have NO effect on gun crime is stupid.
1) Heavily regulate firearms. 2) Work on getting Supreme Court justices in place who will interpret the Second Amendment to allow heavy regulation legislation to occur. 3) Regulate the sale of bullets. 4) Re-institute the assault weapon bans that were in place.
It has less guns than the United States, both per capita and in terms of absolute numbers.
And it has less gun violence.
Oddly enough, it's at 6.4 deaths per year due to guns, while the US is ~9. Yet if you go to other countries in Europe just down the list, like Serbia and Finland, they have lass gun ownership than the Swiss...and less gun violence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country shows what you are looking for. If you go down that list and correlate it to the link you provided, in general, with few exceptions, countries with less guns have lass gun violence. There are exceptions, but the trend is quite clear.
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No, it has to do with the tool. You are wrong.
Guns are the problem. You can be a mentally ill person and run around waving a knife, and you might even kill one or two people. But everyone else will run from you.
There are nuts all over the don't go around shooting up classrooms and theaters.
Do you know why? Because they DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE TOOL.
The tool (gun) is the clear problem here. It is staring us in the face.
This.
You aren't shooting at each other because you ban or severely restrict private gun ownership. Something we int he US need to really consider.
It is becoming less violent in many ways, but not with regards to these massacres. In fact the number of gun massacres (with 4 or more people killed at once) in the US has remained pretty steady over the past 20 years, at about 4 a year. Oddly enough, that was about the time the lessening of gun restrictions on assault rifles started taking place
And yet countries that ban ownership of assault rifles and handguns by the average person don't have these crimes. They just don't.
We need to be MORE like these countries, not less. We need to ban all assault rifles, and severely restrict the ownership of handguns. One per person, that's it, no more.
There are crazy people all over the world. They don't go around shooting up classrooms and theaters. Because they CAN'T GET AN ASSAULT RIFLE EASILY.
Pretty straightforward. Yes, let's try to do something about mental illness. But the solution is staring us in the face.
BAN ASSAULT RIFLES NOW.
The mental illness is not the problem.
There are mentally ill people all over the world. They don't go around shooting up classrooms and theaters.
The GUN is the problem.
Recently a mentally ill man in china went on a knife rampage. He sliced 19 people in a school. No one died. Horrible crime. But no one died (at least from what I read)
If he had had a gun, there would have been 19 dead or more.
The GUN is the problem.
Less guns - less gun violence. Pretty simple.
Citation needed
Jamaica gets most of it's guns illegally...from the US. Not only are we violent, we export it to others:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31474297/ns/world_news-americas/t/us-guns-fuel-jamaicas-gang-wars/#.UMvQ36z4J8E
Why, you destroy them. You offer people money to bring in their guns so that they may be destroyed. You ban the sale of new assault rifles. it will take time, but the other option is too terrible to imagine...an ever increasing supply of guns.
Id rather live in a world where I can run from a knife or a beating than deal with guns.
Why don't you ask the British which they prefer? They have this huge wave of thuggery supposedly. DO you think the British would like to introduce guns into that mix?
It's hilarious that you use Jamaica as an example to refute me.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31474297/ns/world_news-americas/t/us-guns-fuel-jamaicas-gang-wars/
How many firearms are in Jamaica are unlicensed? Do you think the huge crime rate there has anything to do with the huge amount of smuggling of UNLICENSED firearms that come from the us? The hilarious thing is, most of those unlicensed smuggled guns that are seized are traced to..guess where...Florida.
"Jamaica and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives find most of the seized weapons come from three Florida counties — Orange, Dade and Broward — all with large Jamaican populations, according to Shields."
Pretty funny.
Is boat violence a problem? If it was, we should consider reducing the number of boats. But it's not.
"By the same token, NO CARS = NO ACCIDENTAL CAR DEATHS or NO ALCOHOL = NO DRUNK DRIVERS"
These statements are correct. If there were no cars, you'd have no accidental car deaths.
But I'm not saying we should get rid of guns completely. I'm pointing out that in places where there are less guns, you tend to have less gun violence. Therefore, to get less gun violence, we should reduce the amount of guns available or make them more difficult to get. pretty basic.
Less than there are in the U.S.
Less guns = less gun violence.
They have less guns, and they have less gun violence.
China is a nation of 1 billion people. What is the rate of mass murders in China due to Knife Assaults?
In the US we have mass murders, on average, about 1 per week.
"Reality: Crime, in general, is higher in the US than many other countries. Obviously gun-related crime will be higher as well."
But not if guns are made more difficult to get. The idea that if there were less guns made available, due to heavy regulations and outright bannings of assualt rifes, would have NO effect on gun crime is stupid.
Less guns = less gun violence.
I'd rather live in a world with knife violence than a world of gun violence. I can run from a knife.
Here's some solutions.
1) Heavily regulate firearms.
2) Work on getting Supreme Court justices in place who will interpret the Second Amendment to allow heavy regulation legislation to occur.
3) Regulate the sale of bullets.
4) Re-institute the assault weapon bans that were in place.
It has less guns than the United States, both per capita and in terms of absolute numbers.
And it has less gun violence.
Oddly enough, it's at 6.4 deaths per year due to guns, while the US is ~9. Yet if you go to other countries in Europe just down the list, like Serbia and Finland, they have lass gun ownership than the Swiss...and less gun violence.
Less guns = less gun violence.
Shootings by anybody shooting anybody are the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country shows what you are looking for. If you go down that list and correlate it to the link you provided, in general, with few exceptions, countries with less guns have lass gun violence. There are exceptions, but the trend is quite clear.
Less guns = less gun violence.
False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
" is based on all shootings. This includes accidents and suicides. Those figures are not used in EU gun violence rates."
citation needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
This breaks down death through firearms based on type...suicides, homicides, and so forth.
It's pretty clear that nations at the bottom of the list with strict gun control laws have less gun violence...of all types.
Compare the UK to the US.
LESS GUNS = LESS GUN VIOLENCE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate