Every human built system can suffer from technical issues. Saying otherwise is just pretending the problem doesn't exist.
" I've built systems with the right teams before that could stand anything short of a nuke"
You're modest arn't you. Systems always look bullet proof - until they go wrong. I doubt yours are any better or worse than hundreds of others that have been written to be resilient.
And it doesn't matter what language they're written in , the fragility generally isn't down to a low level language issue such as memory, threading or pointer issues (though obviously those errors happen too), its usually a logic problem in handling edge cases, unexpected code paths and errors correctly. No language is going to save you from broken logic however much their proponents would pretend otherwise.
... but pushing your pet language in every goddam comments section is a perfect way to make people get sick of hearing about it and give it the finger before they've even tried it. Who knows, perhaps thats your intention. Either way, give it a rest you buffoon.
You're splitting hairs. Jobs doesn't exist in a vacuum - without a useful end product that someone is willing to pay for the job ceases to be a job and reverts to being a pastime or hobby.
If you believe in some all powerful being then the same all powerful being is in charge of the weather. He created the hurricane or at the very least didn't bother to stop it. So what exactly are you going to achieve praying to the same psychopathic entity to help the people he obviously doesn't give a damn about in the first place?
" Entertaining others is secondary and entirely superfluous to that,"
No, it absolutely isn't, because without the entertainment side they wouldn't get paid and their "job" wouldn't exist. Also the entertainment value requires humans to be playing it, no one wants to see 2 chess computers slugging it out.
I doubt anyone gives a damn about the slight difference between a ton and a tonne. Also if the submitter wanted to be 100% accurate he should have given its weight down to the nearest kg or lb, not rounded it off.
... for idiot lego brick style web "developers". The whole javascript ecosystem is joke house of cards - a bad initial paradigm, a badly designed language with half assed libraries thrown on top used by bottom of the barrel coders who wouldn't be able to code in C++, java or some other grown up language if their lives depended on it. Yet most of the web now relies on this bloody garbage. How the hell did we get here? I despair.
= 4650 tonnes. Which would have been a lot easier for most people to grog straight away. Still, at least they didn't measure it in elephants tho I suppose it won't be long before submitters drop to that dumbed down level.
This doesn't exactly sound like a stable platform to develop on if they can't even manage full backwards compatibility at compile time, never mind run time. Unix C programs I wrote back in the 90s I can still compile today on modern compilers - Swift will probably just be another language footnote in 20 years time but even if it isn't, I suspect the chances of being able to compile a program written in Swift 4.0 unchanged in 2037 I suspect will be near zero.
Seems like Apple is following MS in the rush to make changes for changes sake. "We need to do something to maintain momentum, this is something , lets do it!"
... should be based on how much income the brothels make. Sometimes the minority of I'm-all-right-screw-you-jack types have to put up with the majority not wanting their city to descend to the lowest ethical common denominator.
I have no problem with the technology uber use, its the future, but the company itself is a disgrace and I'd be quite happy to see it go bust.
I doubt 95% of londoners give a flying fuck. It'll be the 5% of drunken morons who need a quick taxi home no questions asked that'll be upset. Shame I don't have my violin.
"given today's technology and established code base, for them to use anything but inexpensive, commodity parts for this"
This is a highly specialised application. Sometimes commodity parts are too inefficient and/or slow to be a good choice in these situations.
"there are a lot of people who can code for them"
With modern compilers being able to code for a specific chipset is less relevant. Also while there are many experienced to-the-metal assembly language coders and there are many experienced people who can code a neural net or other AI paradigm, I suspect the intersect between the two is quite small.
" I think this is simply a culture issue with Tesla wanting to prove that they don' need no one else, they're just THAT good, nanny nanny boo-boo"
No, I suspect its a business decision. And it makes a chance having a corporation who wants to build the best and not just shove out cheap consumer level shit that goes wrong after a couple of years.
Oh, and you might want to ease up on the schoolboy mocked, it doesn't add weight to your argument, it just makes you sound like an ass.
"roll their own outside of their areas of core expertise."
I think this whole discussion is certainly outside your core area of expertise.
"if we have almost solved the problem of autonomous driving in 2D it should be easier to solve in 3D because there are fewer obstacles and more ways to avoid them"
Oh boy. Go back to playing Flight Sim sonny, you have no clue.
Would these be the same type of computers that currently control fly by wire aircraft yet still have to hand back control to the pilots if conditions exceed their pre-programmed limits? Yeah, I can see that handover going well with a flying car and a "driver" who doesn't have a first clue what to do next.
... which have saved hundreds of millions of lives around the world since they were invented. Real, work of the devil they are.
"this shit is everywhere i dont know what to do anymore"
You could try educating yourself, then find out how to go and buy and cook fresh produce instead of dining at your local burger bar every day and drinking coke.
I wonder if there's some sort of symbiosis going on between the cancer cells and the bacteria? Food supply in exchange for protection? Perhaps certain bacteria in the body prefer tumours over normal tissue.
I've not idea, just putting it out there. Perhaps I'm talking utter BS, just curious.
C/C++ just has compilers and libraries. There's no special "enterprise" version of the compiler (well, not on linux/unix, MS VC++ might be a different story) so why does java have to have these artificial demarcations other than as marketing device?
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Every human built system can suffer from technical issues. Saying otherwise is just pretending the problem doesn't exist.
" I've built systems with the right teams before that could stand anything short of a nuke"
You're modest arn't you. Systems always look bullet proof - until they go wrong. I doubt yours are any better or worse than hundreds of others that have been written to be resilient.
And it doesn't matter what language they're written in , the fragility generally isn't down to a low level language issue such as memory, threading or pointer issues (though obviously those errors happen too), its usually a logic problem in handling edge cases, unexpected code paths and errors correctly. No language is going to save you from broken logic however much their proponents would pretend otherwise.
... but pushing your pet language in every goddam comments section is a perfect way to make people get sick of hearing about it and give it the finger before they've even tried it. Who knows, perhaps thats your intention. Either way, give it a rest you buffoon.
You're splitting hairs. Jobs doesn't exist in a vacuum - without a useful end product that someone is willing to pay for the job ceases to be a job and reverts to being a pastime or hobby.
If you believe in some all powerful being then the same all powerful being is in charge of the weather. He created the hurricane or at the very least didn't bother to stop it. So what exactly are you going to achieve praying to the same psychopathic entity to help the people he obviously doesn't give a damn about in the first place?
People are odd.
" Entertaining others is secondary and entirely superfluous to that,"
No, it absolutely isn't, because without the entertainment side they wouldn't get paid and their "job" wouldn't exist. Also the entertainment value requires humans to be playing it, no one wants to see 2 chess computers slugging it out.
Its an activity that occasionally becomes a spectator event. If playing chess WAS a job it would have been taken over by machines back in the 90s.
Don't believe me? Then I guess you think telephone exchanges are still run by girls plugging in cables to route calls.
Could is not the same as will.
I write a lot of to the metal system code including drivers. What will this âoeModern programmerâ be using? Swift? Python? Please...
I doubt anyone gives a damn about the slight difference between a ton and a tonne. Also if the submitter wanted to be 100% accurate he should have given its weight down to the nearest kg or lb, not rounded it off.
Most compilers will still compile K&R style C without a fuss , albeit with come compile flags needing to be set.
... for idiot lego brick style web "developers". The whole javascript ecosystem is joke house of cards - a bad initial paradigm, a badly designed language with half assed libraries thrown on top used by bottom of the barrel coders who wouldn't be able to code in C++, java or some other grown up language if their lives depended on it. Yet most of the web now relies on this bloody garbage. How the hell did we get here? I despair.
= 4650 tonnes. Which would have been a lot easier for most people to grog straight away. Still, at least they didn't measure it in elephants tho I suppose it won't be long before submitters drop to that dumbed down level.
This doesn't exactly sound like a stable platform to develop on if they can't even manage full backwards compatibility at compile time, never mind run time. Unix C programs I wrote back in the 90s I can still compile today on modern compilers - Swift will probably just be another language footnote in 20 years time but even if it isn't, I suspect the chances of being able to compile a program written in Swift 4.0 unchanged in 2037 I suspect will be near zero.
Seems like Apple is following MS in the rush to make changes for changes sake. "We need to do something to maintain momentum, this is something , lets do it!"
... should be based on how much income the brothels make. Sometimes the minority of I'm-all-right-screw-you-jack types have to put up with the majority not wanting their city to descend to the lowest ethical common denominator.
I have no problem with the technology uber use, its the future, but the company itself is a disgrace and I'd be quite happy to see it go bust.
I doubt 95% of londoners give a flying fuck. It'll be the 5% of drunken morons who need a quick taxi home no questions asked that'll be upset. Shame I don't have my violin.
Oh, and it wasn't Khans decision.
She doesn't own a donkey AFAIK. Oh, did you mean a-r-s-e? Buy a dictionary.
Better run along sonny, I think your mummy is calling you for dinner.
"given today's technology and established code base, for them to use anything but inexpensive, commodity parts for this"
This is a highly specialised application. Sometimes commodity parts are too inefficient and/or slow to be a good choice in these situations.
"there are a lot of people who can code for them"
With modern compilers being able to code for a specific chipset is less relevant. Also while there are many experienced to-the-metal assembly language coders and there are many experienced people who can code a neural net or other AI paradigm, I suspect the intersect between the two is quite small.
" I think this is simply a culture issue with Tesla wanting to prove that they don' need no one else, they're just THAT good, nanny nanny boo-boo"
No, I suspect its a business decision. And it makes a chance having a corporation who wants to build the best and not just shove out cheap consumer level shit that goes wrong after a couple of years.
Oh, and you might want to ease up on the schoolboy mocked, it doesn't add weight to your argument, it just makes you sound like an ass.
"roll their own outside of their areas of core expertise."
I think this whole discussion is certainly outside your core area of expertise.
"if we have almost solved the problem of autonomous driving in 2D it should be easier to solve in 3D because there are fewer obstacles and more ways to avoid them"
Oh boy. Go back to playing Flight Sim sonny, you have no clue.
... and they'd buy a turd on a stick if it came with an Apple logo, so you think they care if there's some minor connectivity issue?
Would these be the same type of computers that currently control fly by wire aircraft yet still have to hand back control to the pilots if conditions exceed their pre-programmed limits? Yeah, I can see that handover going well with a flying car and a "driver" who doesn't have a first clue what to do next.
... which have saved hundreds of millions of lives around the world since they were invented. Real, work of the devil they are.
"this shit is everywhere i dont know what to do anymore"
You could try educating yourself, then find out how to go and buy and cook fresh produce instead of dining at your local burger bar every day and drinking coke.
I wonder if there's some sort of symbiosis going on between the cancer cells and the bacteria? Food supply in exchange for protection? Perhaps certain bacteria in the body prefer tumours over normal tissue.
I've not idea, just putting it out there. Perhaps I'm talking utter BS, just curious.
C/C++ just has compilers and libraries. There's no special "enterprise" version of the compiler (well, not on linux/unix, MS VC++ might be a different story) so why does java have to have these artificial demarcations other than as marketing device?